JERUSALEM MK2

Just in case the other thread gets deleted due to it's length. Happened to the 5 word story game once. Keep on using the Jerusalem thread and every so often we'll up date this one.

nix001 (Fearless Blue)
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 03:58 pm
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How can we let Jerusalem be run by the Zionists? Especialy with what we are witnessing from them now towards the people of Gazza. The world has asked for a seize fire to help the thousands of wounded and dying, yet the Zionists have refused.
What is it at the moment?...400+ Gazzans dead and thousands wounded over 3 days of bombardment and 4 Jews dead. What are the Zionists worried about? Maybe 400 dead is'nt enough for them at this stage. Maybe they have set themselves a target of 1000 dead before they will concider the innocent in all of this. What ever it is, to me the Jews have sho

You really do spend some time on this, don't you Nix?

I just copied it. Done in 60 seconds.
To you who thinks your about to be funny.
Ha HA funny.

Almohad, thank you for your good questions. Here are my responses:

"Let's start with point number one: the occupation. Does Israel occupy Palestinian territory or not? Is this occupation legal or not?"

In the Gaza Strip, Israel occupies lands that were occupied by Egypt when the 1967 war began. So there's a precedent for the occupation of that territory.

In the West Bank, Israel occupies lands Jordan annexed, giving West Bank residents Jordanian passports. So this wasn't even "Palestine" anymore, according to the Arabs.

"Also, have the Palestinians - Hamas included - offered to negotiate with Israel on the basis of a return to 1967 borders or not?"

The answer about Hamas is on Wikipedia: "Hamas later announced publicly an offer for a 10 year hudna or truce with Israel, should they decide to return to their 1967 borders and allow the return of all Palestinian refugees.&

In 1946, Jewish terrorists agitating for their own state in British-occupied Palestine blew up Jerusalem's King David Hotel, killing 91 including women and children. Two years later, an independent Israel was established.

During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel) killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan.

In order to create and consolidate a Jewish State in 1948, Zionists expelled 750,000 Palestinians from their homeland and never allowed them or their descendants to return. In addition, Israeli forces destroyed over 400 Palestinian villages and perpetrated about three dozen massacres.

Would you want them living next door to you?

Unfortunately al the world we live in is not the world we would like to live in.
The strong rule the weak, its the way of the world.
The world is changing slowly but not fast enough.
Those of us lucky enough to live in the west probably dont realise how much the rest of the world differs from us.
Our freedoms we take for granted are very rare in other parts.
Our liberal attitudes would be laughed at in other countries.
Women, homosexuals, the right for every adult to vote, the law applying to most of us equally...still a few find their way arouind it...
access to information, the right basically to do what we like as long as we dont interfer with others.
We are very lucky. Something our too liberal friends need to remember. There are many in this world that do not respect liberalism and would take it from us given the chance.
I really do hope the palestians get their own country, but not at the price of surrendering to

Pesco are you aware a hudna is not a peace deal as such. A hudna is a peace deal whilst a muslim force is weaker than its enemy. It is designed to allow the muslim force to grow stronger until it becomes stronger than its enemy then the hudna is over.

What? Like the agreement that Britain, the Arabs and the Jews had? It's an agreement until the Jews were strong enough to no longer agree to it?
Even after everything the Palestinians had gone through over the 20 years before hand, they still offered a peace deal. Why did Israel not accept it? It's Because all they are bothered about is building Israel. they are not bothered about peace. Infact, they probably know that if they had peace they would'nt be able to get the land to be able to build Israel into the bigger and stronger Israel the Zionists dream of. One track mind. With no concideration for others. Especialy those who get in their way.

Lets say your neighbour(Israel) robs you(Palestine) at gun point in front of your children, what are you going to do? You phone the police(UN). The police(UN) say they can't help you. Now what are you gonna do? You go next door and ask for the m

I was on about the meaning of a word. Nothing else.
Hudna a word used in the koran by the prophet to describe the action of pretending peace until you are strong enough to attack.

I can see that now. Sorry dood, I had been out on the beer and took it the wrong way
I did'nt know that.
I think we should start up a religious thread from each one of the three main religions? We could talk about the good and bad points of that religion? I know Sam would like that, init Sam

Watch what you write everyone(read the last bit of 'meeting log' thread) it would be a shame if any of us got banned.
OK peps, I've gotta go and win a poker game
Peace

Almohad117 (White Giant)
Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:13 am
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Woo hoo! Another opponent!

Let's start with point number one: the occupation. Does Israel occupy Palestinian territory or not? Is this occupation legal or not?

Also, have the Palestinians - Hamas included - offered to negotiate with Israel on the basis of a return to 1967 borders or not? What has been Israel's response to those offers?

Do the Palestinians deserve a state of their own or not? By what rationale is that right subject to certain conditions imposed by third parties?

Almohad117 (White Giant)
Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:16 am
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RIP GAZA