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Desireless (Kebir Blue)

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nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 03:59 am Click here to edit this post
Going green will no longer cut it. The only chance our future has to live a life that we take for granted is for all of us to sacrifice our desire for consumption and replace it with a desire to make sure our future can have what we have. Life on Earth.

And if any of you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia. I will make you pay in Gold coins.
The time has passed for talk. Infact the time for talk passed 200 years ago when Darwin first warned of the effects of us thinking we are special.
Now is the time to act.
Pain will come to all who act.
Hell will come to those who don't.

Remember. In 50 years time your grandchildren will ask you what you did to save the Gaia.
Now is your time to make sure you can answer then with pride.

Peace&Hardcore................Nix001
MNA

jason (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 04:56 am Click here to edit this post
I think we should leave Earth and push out into space.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 06:10 am Click here to edit this post
Aliens can come and help, Don't forget Aliens.

ikiryo Alexiel (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post
mass eugenics/population control ftw!


(no, don't read into that too much, it was a facetious comment)

Stalin716 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post
Help us... its a rampant tree hugger Are you Owl Gore in disguise?

Angus88 (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:55 am Click here to edit this post
Nix it will take more then 50 years for us to get fucked by the planet, 50 years will probably be the turning point though, as it will actually be a crisis.

CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh my GOSH !!!

This has been going on for approx 14B years, please get over it.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix on KB = swag

The Goldern Khan (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 08:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Man is a selfish creature. The world envys the material wealth of the west and aims to acquire the same status. This the world cannot support. But alas mans greed outways mans commmon sense. Result gloom and doom.Give up, embrace the pollution and thank your lucky stars we will be dead and buried by the time the s$%t hits the fan.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
mmmm swag

nix001

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
All ready to be transfered into Mother Natures Army.

Crafty.
I take it you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia?
Fine. Get your army ready.
My neices and nephews need me to defeat your ignorance and influence.
I will declare in 77hrs.
Unless you wish to change your statement. I know how easy it is to write something that you dont truly believe.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 09:17 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm not sure if this is a troll topic, however, no matter if warming up of our planet we register is part of some greater cycle or if humans are the only culprit, we cannot deny that for the first time in human history global population is faced with challenges caused by ourselves.

It's not that long ago when drinking water from a stream was common, when cutting a tree for fire wood had no significance to anything, or when killing a buffalo had no effect on the count of the heard.

This is no longer true. This has changed in the last century and we have to deal with it, one way or the other, whether we like it or not.

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Tragedy of the commons

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The metaphor illustrates the argument that free access and unrestricted demand for a finite resource ultimately dooms the resource through over-exploitation. This occurs because the benefits of exploitation accrue to individuals or groups, each of whom is motivated to maximize use of the resource to the point in which they become reliant on it, while the costs of the exploitation are borne by all those to whom the resource is available (which may be a wider class of individuals than those who are exploiting it). This, in turn, causes demand for the resource to increase, which causes the problem to snowball to the point that the resource is exhausted. The rate at which exhaustion of the resource is realized depends primarily on three factors: the number of users wanting to consume the commons, the consumptiveness of their uses, and the relative robustness of the commons

[snip]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
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Sure we can just say .. Fuck it! Carpe diem! Survival of the fittest FTW!

I know I can as I do not have kids, nor any belief which would prevent me from doing so, however, I am not sure such approach is wise for those who have either one to answer to.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post
If you haven't seen or heard of the movie "The Happening" then it's relevant to this.
It shows that man-kind are hurting nature and near destroying it. The release of a toxin by the surrounding plant life in an evolutionary last-ditch attempt to protect themselves from the predator that endangers them the most- man, Mother natures responds.
It's possibly a Relatance to Green House effect, I guess.

Laguna

Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:07 pm Click here to edit this post
An honest question, tuco, specially given the blockhead character.

Stalin716 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:14 am Click here to edit this post
The Happening was a fictional movie and a poor one at that. To use it as science fact is simply environmental whackoism taken to a brand new level

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Hehe, It could happen.

Miles Prower (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post
The world has got by without ice caps before, it will do so again. Life will also survive. History is littered with mass extinction events.

Survival of the most fit, as always.

Humans are not killing Earth. We're putting our own survival at risk, at best. At worst, we're going to take a few other species with us too.

But that's the way nature works. To suggest that human civilisation is not a part of the natural system is idiocy, and tree-hugging blindness.

Not to mention the fact tht the Earth is curently progressing not only forwards out of an ice age, but also an unusually stable few milennia of weather should also be taken into account.

Acid rain, ozone holes, climate change...

This bandwagon is full, please catch another Nix.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 04:57 pm Click here to edit this post
The thing that a lot of people cannot comprehend is that Mother Nature doesn't have a bullet with your name on it, she has millions of bullets inscribed with 'to whom it may concern

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 05:20 pm Click here to edit this post
gotta love those brave and bold who subscribe, by their words, to the .. let the invisible hand, the forces of nature, to do what it does, because there is no point to restrain our behavior .. and when they get shot for $20 by homeless crack addict, when their kids get asthma because of pollution, when someone close to them gets ran over by a car, when someone shits in their own garden they .. cry. cry or get angry or ask why oh why?

coz you are stupid.

Miles Prower (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 07:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Homeless crack addicts... Curse you, global warming!

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 07:29 pm Click here to edit this post
why global warming?

its the so called philosophy of the survival of the fittest.

why should i care if someone loses her/his job or house? why should i care if someone has access to education or health care?

well, to prevent or discourage that someone from becoming a crack addict who will shoot me for $20.

but perhaps not, perhaps i will take my chances. yes its my right.

reminds me i should buy a big gun ..

jason (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post
and a L 4 vest.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 08:04 pm Click here to edit this post
It's that kind of attitude Miles which is putting Life on Earth at risk.
This is not a game of risk that can be re-started and it's not something that can be fix when it's broken.
We have one chance to ensure the survival of life on Earth. And that chance is now.
You are risking my nieces and nephews lives. And I will not tolerate it.
This thread is not here to discuss the issue. It is here for me to find people who disagree that man is killing Giai so I can make them pay in Gold coins for the damage their influence is having on other people.


Stalin. To me yours words are on the borderline of making people think negatively towards environmentalisum. I cannot judge if your my enemy. So if you are, pease make it clearer for me. Thanks.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 08:24 pm Click here to edit this post
i would agree that its hard to distinguish if one's interest or sympathy for environmentalism is genuine or if one follows a trend, however, if something becomes global trend, an issue people all around the world can relate to or are concerned with, then to me its indication that theres something, some truth, about it.

on the other hand if something is a trend, then certain people or interest groups will try to use people subscribing to it for their own goals, and personally i get alerted by such efforts.

its not possible to force anyone to anything. at least not in the long term be it in the name of whatever. the only way i see is .. education.

its my belief people have right to be self-destructive, but there is a difference between being conscious about it and being ignorant.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post
well nix looks like your time is up you decing or what?

Miles Prower

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 08:55 pm Click here to edit this post
It's survival of the most fit, not survival of the fittest. The strongest isn't always the best adapted. And it applies to the species as a whole, not individuals. So that particular point is moot, ZdenÄk Pavlovský. All of the issues you bring up are matters for individual societies to address. As for asthma and allergies, they are a direct result of the overly-hygenic "western" way of life, because our immune systems simply don't learn to deal with these things as we develop.

As for you, Nix. All I can say is that you appear to be a very confused person. At the moment, the earth is in a relatively cold period. It has been much hotter in the past than it is now. Look at the early Triasic period, for example. As I said, the world - and life - have survived through greater extremes than those which we face.

When environmentalists such as yourself say things along the lines of "Save the earth from global warming!" what you really mean to say is "Save humanity from the current 'insert political-point-scoring issue here'!"

Climate change is real, yes. Life is all about change. Naturally occuring.

Oh wow would you look at that little coincidence...

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:06 pm Click here to edit this post
I burned down my Christmas tree.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:17 pm Click here to edit this post
look Miles, as i say personally i could care less if the world would cease to exist tomorrow. personally i do not have ambitions to make anyone to do anything nor to change anyone nor to preach to anyone.

my point, in the context of your post, was that using the argument .. its the survival of the fittest and thats why its fine or just or good is .. moot.

even Dawkins, the most influential evolutionary biologist of our time, whom we could expect to defend the point you were making, admits such approach is not hmmm wise.

Putting it another way, I'm a passionate Darwinian when it comes to science, when it comes to explaining the world, but I'm a passionate anti-Darwinian when it comes to morality and politics - Richard Dawkins

im not going to argue how people understand "survival of the fittest" because we could probably find many mis/interpretations and mis/understandings nor im going to argue if global warming is caused by us or naturally occurring, because that is irrelevant to the point i was making.

the point was, if i chose to disregard everyone else and everything around me, it might happen i will be sorry.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Jason. I have no reason to put you on the list.
The last time I spoke to you about the subject you had'nt made your mind up.
I'm looking for the people who don't think man needs to change his behaviour. For it is they who will continue to destroy the natural world. Leaving nothing for our future generations.

Miles. Why do you think it's alright for man to kill Gaia and destroy my nieces and nephews environment?

Miles Prower

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:27 pm Click here to edit this post
You're misquoting Darwin in order to prove a point that I never made. And then using that to impose a moral framework upon what I say via the context into which you erroneously place it as a result. Frankly, it is most amusing.

I did not once say that 'survival of the most fit' made anything covered by this discussion right, just or good.

What I did imply - if not outright say - was that life has endured far more drastic changes in the environment and that the current situation is not as dire as some political animals would make it out to be.

Where you're getting the impression that I'm saying to hell with all consequences because the fittest will endure is beyond me.

But it does make for good reading. Keep it up.


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Miles. Why do you think it's alright for man to kill Gaia and destroy my nieces and nephews environment?




Gaia. You impose a single unity upon the life processes of the world where none exists. Species appear and dissapear all the time. It is the very nature of life. To change and adapt to the environs in which it finds itself, or die out.

Life has survived far more extreme conditions on this world, as I have pointed out several times.

As for killing your relatives, that is extremely far-fetched and unrealistic. The eradication of the entire human race due to global warming is nigh on impossible.

This unusual idea of the earth's environment as a single static entity is a flawed and dangerous view, championed by envoronmentalists who wish to impart social guilt upon their respective societies. In trying to prevent what is essentially a fluid system from evolving and changing as nature intended you end up doing more harm than good, to both human civilisation and the environment at large.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:42 pm Click here to edit this post
in that case i misunderstood the point you were making.

/me shrugs

yes, i stated the same thing, that life will endure, myself in another thread not long ago, however, i would assume that humans care about their own life in the first place not life in general, and since nix was trying to say that destroying our environment we destroy ourselves the bandwagon he was accused jumping at is rational to me.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Miles. Do you think the activities of man is destroying the environment?

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Doesn't Mother Natures Wrath take part in destroying the Environment too?
Lighting hits a forest which causes a Forest Fire,
Tornado Destroys Tree, Soil, Infrastructure and Etc,
Types of Gas that kills plants, flowers, and trees spread on by Wind.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Considering the 5 mass extinctions this planet has had I would put anything man is capable of as a minor problem at best. Barring a total nuclear exchange.

The largest extinction event involved some 80 percent of all classifications of biological life...plants,vertebrates,and insects.


Some 360 million years ago...

It lasted for as long as 20 million years before it finished.


My point?

This planet was here long before us...It will be here long after we are fossils ourselves.

jason (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:08 pm Click here to edit this post
mmmmm total nuclear exchange sounds like fun to me. nukes on the way!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Revival. I have no beef with Mother Nature killing my family. I do have beef with men and women who risk the survival of my family for their own desires.

I understand what you are saying Sam, but who are you to say what man is capable of?
Was it not man who knew of the concequences of pouring acid into a pond, yet still went ahead and did it?

Edited during Rev posting:
These people know they are doing wrong. There are millions of them out there still trying to get away with making some easy money. They will never get it as long as there are people out there making the arguement that it does'nt really matter.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:38 pm Click here to edit this post
I hope you are not blaming the human race for every destruction on Nature, Some people try to keep a clean environment.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:53 pm Click here to edit this post
No. Just the ones who did'nt/don't care about the destruction of Nature.

99.999% of life does everything it can to survive. Yet some of you dont seem to be bothered about survival.
Has life become that easy for you that you have forgotten the whole point of life?

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I have a problem with you threatening others because they don't share the same crackpot beliefs as you.



You need to check yourself Nix.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:17 pm Click here to edit this post
"And if any of you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia. I will make you pay in Gold coins."

Are you suppose to be some Tree Guardian?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Read the beginning Sam.
I made it quite clear that if you choose to argue with me you will have to back it up with gold coins.
I have no idea why you lot are posting on here anyway.
As I said. The time for talk has passed. This is a thread for anyone out there to challenge me with more than words.
Whats wrong with that?
You want to fight you post.
I know that Crafty might not have understood what was going on due to you lot having to get your say in (I've sent him a in game message just to let him know what the threads about) and as you know, I also discourage attacking someone due to their views on the forum.
This is why I started this thread.
I thought that only my enemies would post on it.
Maybe I could have made it clearer.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIGHT ME BECAUSE YOU TOTALY DISAGREE WITH MY OPENING STATEMENT I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO DISCUSS YOUR VEIWS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT ON THE THREAD CALLED ENVIRONMENTALISUM AND NOT ON THIS ONE.

Rev. Are'nt we all supposed to be?

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Only for my Christmas tree, Which makes me different.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:22 am Click here to edit this post
Perhaps driving you from the civilized worlds back to FB is in order...

Your asshattery has only grown over time instead of mellowing.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 02:14 am Click here to edit this post
It would be a pleasure in battling someone who makes statments like: 'This planet was here long before us...It will be here long after we are fossils ourselves.' When talking about our effects on our futures environment.
Mars is also a planet which has been here long before us. And you point is what?

I am talking about the here and now. You talk about 'Some 360 million years ago...'

I talk about trying to stop a catastrophe and you talk about 'The largest extinction event involved some 80 percent of all classifications of biological life...plants,vertebrates,and insects.' What has that got to do with man killing the Eco system?

Hello?........is it you I'm looking for?
I can see it in your posts, I can see it in your words.
You really don't care whats going on.
You really don't care whats true.
Maybe nows the time to show you, that you really don't have a clue.
I'll take your countries from you, like I nearly did to Boo.
I look forward to our battle.
For I know now what to do.
And now all I have to say is
.....................I hate you.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 02:21 am Click here to edit this post
dec now fool! no one pwns sam!!!!!!!!!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
He will declare on me when he's ready.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post
Many have tried and many have failed Nix.


114~!

No this is your thread. You can declare at will.

I will not make you into a SC martyr.

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 04:38 am Click here to edit this post
The 20th/21st century is certainly not the first time humans have squandered their resources and then faced starvation disease and cannibalism. Not only did ancients over harvest the big game in Africa they chased the last mammoth down all the way across Eurasia and North America and then over harvested the giant sloths too. Easter Island is the classic example. From the hill you could see the entire Island. The wing nut that chopped the last tree to roll his/her ceremonial stonehead must have known it was the last palm tree.

More recently, 19th century environmentalists did succeed in generating awareness that the sperm whale stock was severely depleted. Rather than inspiring a reduction in sperm-brain-candle use it inspired the invention of coal-gas, kerosene, oil drilling, and eventually light bulbs.

There is no need to worry about solving the carbon footprint. We have advanced to a level of technology where we can dispose of carbon. Now we can cover the earth with silica fume, radioactive waste, and/or megatons of battery acid. If you don't like the silica fumes we can replace doped silicon with a mixture of gallium and arsenic. Or lightweight thin films of exotic mixtures.

With over 10B people on earth there is no reason to worry about starving. Just keep your ammunition dry.

Just Spock (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:14 pm Click here to edit this post
i think all the discussion here is fun and interesting. However, it is NOT advisable to attack someone who disagrees with you. Nix, I think it is foolish to pollute the planet with gun powders and radiation while you are trying to argue for the green.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:25 pm Click here to edit this post
the first time .. global .. population if faced with problems caused by ourselves i said.

while the "world" is spending billions on the so called war on terror, 8 mil people die every year because they dont have access to drinkable water.

to me humans are idiots.

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 11:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Spock.
No-one has to say anything on this thread apart from anyone who thinks the likes of me and Z (just read Z's post and I'm not getting him involved) should be shot.............when talking about the environment.
Its the one who will willingly fight his 'wont change because it's nothing to do with me' corner I want.
Not players like Cockney who just made a flipant comment.
As there is obvious confusion I will start the thread from here.
I will not declare on anyone who made a comment before now.
I will also think about what you wrote spock. But sometimes actions speak louder than words
:)
So for the time being: 'if any of you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia. I will make you pay in Gold coins.'

To my adversaries.
The future can no longer afford for you to continue in your culture of desire. You will never find what you are looking for and now it is time to put it to rest.
Consumption is undoing the fabric of life.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:01 am Click here to edit this post
Wrong. Your statement implies for others to remain silent or you will do X. So in effect you are attacking someone for not thinking as you do.

X marks the difference between extortion and discussion.

Retract your statement and rephrase it.

jason (White Giant)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:02 am Click here to edit this post
If you got balls nix's dec now!!!!!!!!!!!!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:56 am Click here to edit this post
NLUO THREAD
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jason (Little Upsilon)
Monday, March 23, 2009 - 08:06 pm
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Dec 14, 2395 Britannia has declared war on Gaza. War will start on 14-04-2396.

Thu Dec 14, 2395 Tank has declared war on Gaza. War will start on 14-04-2396.


noob needs to stop spamming. I guess I'll nuke him another 40 times :P

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YO SAM, Have a word :)

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 02:01 am Click here to edit this post
To my merry band of critters.
I have just this to say. Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword. And the words that some people use, brings complacency to the urgent matter at hand. Ignorant people lose their fear and nothing gets done. I seek those who wish to create this complacency. Not those who are ignorant from it. The innocent will not be harmed.
Anyways. If you all stopped posting on it, it would be half way down the table by now.........unless it's caught my fish :)

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 02:27 am Click here to edit this post
Jason should nuke the NULO.

They have been asked to stop spamming the forums with nonsense many times by many different people.

They refused.

Thus consequences follow.

Perhaps a lesson somewhere in that for you?

Nix having a discussion= Good.

Nix preaching Marxist environmental nonsense= ignore

Nix threatening others that don't share his view=

Consequences.


See how the system works?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 02:50 am Click here to edit this post
Nix - I said this earlier. I'm not on your world. Perhaps you should listen to Sam, who is.....

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:27 am Click here to edit this post
Nix = an Hypocrite

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
Boo

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:29 am Click here to edit this post
Rev. Somethings have no rules.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:33 am Click here to edit this post
nix, i have been told im on your list. Your welcome on LU at any time. Im sure I can make you more than welcome.

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:44 am Click here to edit this post
Stu. I do not see one comment from you. So how can you be on my hit list?
Someone's telling you porkies mate.
Anyways. The only person on the list was Cockney. Who I removed due to the complete balls up of my thread.
I've been on LU for time mate.
Everybody needs good neighbours :)

jason (Golden Rainbow)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:45 am Click here to edit this post
dec's in on king sam. :P

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:47 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

I've been on LU for time mate.


Interesting. Whats your main?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:50 am Click here to edit this post
MOTHER NATURE CRYZ

Give me a shout when you get an empire n00b.

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:50 am Click here to edit this post
Why? What you saying?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post
n00b. So, your my new Hezzy are you. Good to meet you dude.

What do you think i'm saying? Take a wild guess asshat.

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:53 am Click here to edit this post
Play time.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:56 am Click here to edit this post
Bring it on baby :)

My main is ETRURIA - im waiting n00b.

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 04:11 am Click here to edit this post
Zde.
You said 'its not possible to force anyone to anything. at least not in the long term be it in the name of whatever. the only way i see is .. education.'

200 years ago is when the education started and where has it got us? Some will put a plastic bottle in a green bag and maybe even switch a light off. Not enough. For the lesson that was being taught was for man/woman to stop consuming. Not even a credit crunch will stop people from consuming.
And now we have ran out of time.

I will fight those who challenge me. For it is they who try and stop the reality from becoming the truth. For when truth is known the people respond.
There is one truth. We are killing the eco system.
Argue with me and I will make you pay in time and gold coins.

Stu.
I tip my hat.
Just to get my blood pumping :) what are we going to war over?
I need a bit of inspiration here.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 04:22 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

Stu.
I tip my hat.
Just to get my blood pumping what are we going to war over?
I need a bit of inspiration here.


A couple of things dude. Firstly, you try and make my mate bobo look like an idiot and fail. Then you spam the forums Hezzy style.

Oh......and im bored :)

Get a slave, then feel the force of the Etrurian Empire dude.....

By the way, Leicester City suck. Wolves rule :)

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 04:43 am Click here to edit this post
Rough necks.
I used to see a girl from Wolverhampton.
Hands covered in sovereign rings. Talked street. Mean right hook. Yet petite and pretty.

BLUE ARMY.

Oh yea. Booboo's old news.
I have no intentions of saying another word.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 04:46 am Click here to edit this post
lol, sounds like one of my many ex's dude :)

By the way, another reason for you to hate me.....

I drive a 3.0 Turbo. does 9MPG, 11 on a good run.

Global warming - bring it on - Wales would be tropical :)

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 08:28 am Click here to edit this post
Scholars generally believe that the Socratic paradox is actually Socratic rather than an invention of Plato. The one positive statement that Socrates seems to have made is a definition of virtue (areté): "virtue is knowledge." If one knows the good, one will always do the good. It follows, then, that anyone who does anything wrong doesn't really know what the good is. This, for Socrates, justifies tearing down people's moral positions, for if they have the wrong ideas about virtue, morality, love, or any other ethical idea, they can't be trusted to do the right thing. - http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/GREECE/SOCRATES.HTM

this is what i meant by education.

yes i said i believe humans have the right to be self-destructive, at the same time i believe most of them cannot, are not willing are not able, override their primal programming and want to live, procreate, and prosper.

therefore if humans act in self-destructive way, they are just being ignorant - they do not know the "good".

im not asking you nix not to fight for what you believe in, im not asking someone else not to buy bottled water or drive a gas guzzler, and im not even asking anyone not to blow up themselves on a bus.

im merely stating my opinion, my perception of reality, my understanding of how the world works, and i might mix in some facts, however, everyone has to decide for her/himself what "good" is and how to act.

Miles Prower (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 08:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Do us all a favour, nix; save the planet a little quicker and turn off your computer. Your electricity is produced using the souls of kittens.

Oh noez!

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
I chop down and burned a tree for fun.

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:10 am Click here to edit this post
Zde. Who does decide what is right or wrong? Is there not an enforcer?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:11 am Click here to edit this post
I burnt a tyre today :)

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post
Prick.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post
Thats it - I have turned my heating up to the max and openend every window. I have also turned on every appliance in my house just to waste electricity.

Oh yeah, I drove VERY uneconomically today. It was fun!

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post
Nix, I burned gaia.

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:16 am Click here to edit this post
Twat.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:17 am Click here to edit this post
Thats it - I admit it - I never recycle either - and I never will. Cant be bothered.....

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:29 am Click here to edit this post
Say that man is not destroying the environment.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:33 am Click here to edit this post
Man is not destroying the Environment.

Blue Serpent (White Giant)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:38 am Click here to edit this post
<- - -4.0 ltr cherokee jeep, vrmmm vrmmm

Blue Serpent (White Giant)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:39 am Click here to edit this post
ps, petrol.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:41 am Click here to edit this post
It is proven that the earth goes through climate changes over periods of thousands, or even hundreds of years. The last ice age did not come to an end because someone turned their heating up. It came to an end because thats the way nature works.

All this global warming stuff is crap - its just propoganda designed to keep us, the populace, under control.

I mean, recycling. A load of governments promote this, but do you know what happens to a significant proportion of recycable waste? It goes to countries such as China and India to be dumped in a landfill.

Why are governments promoting global warming? Easy - to increase taxable income by making us adhere to their new laws, and to ensure that we cannot, in the future, be held to ransom by oil producing nations such as Iran.

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:43 am Click here to edit this post
Which means, Man has nothing to do with Destroying Gaia.

(Although i have my doubts)

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:44 am Click here to edit this post

Stu. Say it.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
OK, if it will make you feel better asshat;

Man is not destroying the environment.


Quote:

Blue Serpent (White Giant)
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:38 am
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<- - -4.0 ltr cherokee jeep, vrmmm vrmmm


3.0 ltr Supra Turbo. 9 MPG. VROOM!!!!!

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 01:49 am Click here to edit this post
Super Oil Gas Jeep, Poop Poop!

Kiss Of Death

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 05:05 am Click here to edit this post
Personally, I don't think it will be global warming or whatnot to end us all.

I think Nix is destroying the environment. ha ha ha ha His ramblings are nothing but vermin and refuse. If anything could possibly kill off mankind, its the unendless dribble of Nix. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Jan
Key Organizer
Stamp Out Nix - Clean Up the Environment Campaign

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
You know what you have to say Jan. But it is obvious you don't know whats going on otherwise you would'nt include 'I don't think' :)

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 03:47 pm Click here to edit this post
And you are some sort of expert testimony, nix? Do you have an advanced degree in climatology, meteorology, or environmental sciences? Or did you immediately volunteer for Green Peace after dropping out of high scool?

Don't give us this garbage as if YOU know what YOU'RE talking about. You're a headline reader, a bandwagon jumper, a fundamentalist drone, an intellectual imposter.

Do yourself a favor and quit mocking those who are able to think for themselves.

:)

BC

Jack Frost (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 03:48 pm Click here to edit this post
I would like to point out that Cow farts are one of the leading producer's of CO2, which as we all know leads to global warming. The majority of the world's cows? India.


You get my drift. Nix show some respect for the ladies.


With Regards,
Dragoon

Kiss Of Death (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 04:01 pm Click here to edit this post
I somehow feel the urge to chop up a tree, put the remains in a box and fedex it overnight to Nix. ha ha ha


Oh wait! Bobo said he wants to "piss" on the remains first before I mail it. ha ha ha ha

A special delivery to Nix from Jan. (snickers he he he)

nix001

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 04:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Who breed the cow's? Man.
Who chops down the rain forest so you can have cheap McD's? Man.
Your point has been made on the other thread.

Do ladies speak like that?


BC. Who on here is thinking for themselves? (Apart from Zde and PS) It's a simple question BC. Do you think man is not killing the environment?

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 05:21 pm Click here to edit this post
First off, your question:
"Do you think man is not killing the environment?"

Do you really care what I think, Nix? Jan told you what she thinks and you disregard her for simply giving what you ask for, an opinion. We know you're not here to ACTUALLY discuss the topic. You're here because you've become an attention whore. You're using this forum to spout your nonsense and bully people around.

Personally, I'm here for the jollies.

The truth is, you don't know anything more than anybody else in these forums when it comes to climatology/global warming, but you try pass yourself as an educated and enlightened individual. Trust me nix, nobody is falling for that. The general concensus is that you are, as Bobo so eloquently put it, an idiot. :( But that's okay! SC is a diverse community! :) Just stop trying to preach to us about something you know nothing about. It's intellectually offensive and inconducive to productive conversation or debate.

Now, if somebody starts a thread about getting beat up in a bar, inbreading, or sodomizing goats we'll eagerly await your expert contributions.


BC

jason (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 07:12 pm Click here to edit this post
do you have an advanced degree nix?

Kiteless (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 07:27 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

The truth is, you don't know anything more than anybody else in these forums when it comes to climatology/global warming, but you try pass yourself as an educated and enlightened individual. Trust me nix, nobody is falling for that. The general concensus is that you are, as Bobo so eloquently put it, an idiot. :( But that's okay! SC is a diverse community! :) Just stop trying to preach to us about something you know nothing about. It's intellectually offensive and inconducive to productive conversation or debate.




Quality

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 07:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix... Cow's fuck eachother, how many farmers in india do you think are going to desecrate their ancestors by artificially inseminating them? not very many so they screw and make calves...

nix001

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 08:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Jan: 'Which means, Man has nothing to do with Destroying Gaia.

(Although i have my doubts)'

I have no problem with that statement. Why would I?

BC. You brought my mum into it on the other thread. Your nothing but a punked up little boy, who thinks because you shot some Iraqi's that your a man. Men don't bring people's mothers into it.
The only reason your on my case is because of Booboo. Get over it.
Otherwise you would answer my question. You know what. I think you do think that man is killing the environment. Thats why you wont answer. Anyway. Once I've delt with what I've started I'll deal with you insulting my mother.


Jason. No degree, just 15 years of my life studying mans effect on the environment. I have also been a gardener for 10 years and I have seen many changes. IE, certain tree types dying, Lack of certain insects. Maybe this is why these lot are so full of shit. They can't look around and come up with their own take on whats happening. They need to be taught it. Sad.
What are they all waiting for? A degree in how we have killed life on Earth?
Give it another 50 years and there might be one.

Jack? Is that what you base your view point on?
Some cows in india?

Kiss Of Death

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:03 am Click here to edit this post
Nix, I didn't say that, if you were quoting me in your above post. I'm the one who stated that YOU were the draining force on the environment. ha ha ha ha

Please give BC the respect he is due. He served his country,,,,the man has honor and courage. Hugs to you BC.

Regards,
Jan

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:05 am Click here to edit this post
We all live in a yellow submarine

Miles Prower

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:15 am Click here to edit this post
We've provided you with an argument, Nix. But we're not obliged to provide you with an understanding.

You will remain ignorant for a long while.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:22 am Click here to edit this post
A yellow submarine......

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:57 am Click here to edit this post
hey now Im in the sky with diamonds, and Lucy, god bless Lucy. She is so fine

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 01:09 am Click here to edit this post
She's got a ticket to ride......

nix001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 02:27 am Click here to edit this post
Sorry Jan. That was Rev that said that.
As for BC............I will never have respect for someone who will involve someones mother when throwing their toys out of their pram.

Miles. You seem to think that unless it happens theres no problem. And that if it does happen, there is still no problem because thats just life. ????????????? Is man not here to protect and safe guard our futures world?
Maybe you hav'nt become a man yet. If so, when you do, you will understand where I'm coming from.
Anyway. As soon as I logged onto this game I knew I would come across capitalistic anti-environmentalists. So I stayed to see what they were saying.
But over the past 11 months myself and others have put up with people who force their views about the environment (on the environmental threads) by calling people names and telling people that there is nothing wrong and that if you think that there is, there must be something wrong with you.
I've been insulted and have been threatened with war. And for what? For saying that the environment is in trouble.
Now 11 months of arguing has come to an end. It's time for those who wish to insult me and spread their hatred and mis-information to put their GC's where their mouths are (as I am prepaired to do).
I would never declare war on anyone who was taking part in a debate.
Which is why I started this thread.

Mother Nature cannot wait any longer.
The change has to happen now.
You want to argue miles? Go to the environmental thread and leave me to mine.
Unless the reason you are posting IS for me to declare on you?
Listen mate. If all you want is to debate the environment, there are threads for that. I look forward to debating with you about it.

Kiss Of Death (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 06:00 am Click here to edit this post
RE: "Listen mate. If all you want is to debate the environment, there are threads for that. I look forward to debating with you about it."

My comment is: Can't debate and rationalize with the insane...ha ha ha ha

Miles Prower

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 06:14 am Click here to edit this post
Oh, don't get me wrong, nix. I care for the future. But unlike certain people out there I'm willing to do my own research rather than simply believing what the media and politicians spoon feed me.

You see, there is a wealth of information out there regarding climate change. And I have yet to find any evidence in favour of "global warming" which has not been discredited by compelling evidence to the contrary.

I realise now that your beliefs stem as much from your enjoyment of putting words into the mouths of others and wishing you held dominion over their lives as much as it does from your political ideology. Good luck with that. It's an impressive ego.

I would be more than willing to debate with you on the issue, except that you have displayed nothing but a closed mind. And the whole point of debate is to learn.

Thing is, you choose to misunderstand and misinterpret what I say simply because it serves your needs. And that interpretation, I've noticed, does indeed fluctuate quite significantly.

Just for you, Nix, I will repeat myself.

Yes, climate change is happening. But that's the nature of the world. The climate has never over the course of nearly five billion years remained a static entity. The fact remains that the earth is still in the process of exiting an ice age. The fact remains that global temperature trends closely follow solar output more than greenhouse gas emissions from humanity. The fact remains that nature places far more greenouse gasses into the environment than humanity.

The list does go on, but I'm trying to keep this simple.

But the most damning fact of all is that the biggest threat to humanity is ignorance, and the biggest threat to our way of life is the willingness of some people to surrender their right to make decisions so willingly to the viewpoint that is most convenient for the current governing body.

If your nieces and nephews do face danger in the future, it's because rash, uneducated people are trying to drastically influence a system they do not fully comprehend - in this case, the ultimately self-regulating environment of the earth.

So whilst you go about damning and condemning us, running around like a headless chicken trying to change the way people think simply because it doesn't fit in with your take on the world, I'll carry on raising my family in a more rational manner.

Best of luck, Nix. You're going to need it.

But I really think this is enough.

General Bobo

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 06:23 am Click here to edit this post
omg nix, you infected yet another thread...sweet jeebus..lol

General Bobo

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 06:24 am Click here to edit this post
oh i forgot


wah wah wah wah wah

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 10:16 am Click here to edit this post
/me shakes head

the only fair thing to say is that we are not 100% sure what is causing the changes we can observe. to claim humans do not influence anything is ignorant.

anyone, on either side of the argument, claiming otherwise is a fool.

its like with God .. either it exists or it doesn't, but to say .. I do not know or I am not sure, is apparently not an option for many.

don't let them get to you nix.

people who defend their questionably sustainable lifestyles do so probably because they are not able to do any better. they are driven by their needs and cannot control themselves. in such case if they wanna live with themselves, if they wanna look in to the mirror and feel good, they are left with ignorance, denial and self-deception.

CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 01:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Mr Pavlovsky, The majority of posts in this thread are not outright refuting Nix's position.

People do not like the way he attempts to bully and coerce others into seeing his mainly unfounded opinions. Do you agree with a religious zealot forcing his opinion upon you ?

From a scientific point of view we are 100% sure of what is causing the changes we can observe. No one would or has claimed humans do not influence anything, but human influence would seem to be miniscule in the grand scheme of things.

Do let them get to you nix.

You have every right to express your opinion in the forum, you do not have any right to try to force such opinion on others within the game structure.
Reflect on the difference between your personal reality and this Game.
If you cannot see the division I feel sorry for you.

In game terms:-
If you wish to live in the stone age, then your countries will be reduced to a position conducive to such an existance.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 02:37 pm Click here to edit this post
man .. what to say?

i could write something, making sense, but its pointless.

nix will continue what he started with, everyone else will bash him for it, and random people will post random shouts in the dark just because there is nothing better to do on the board.

its not like anyone gonna win the argument about global warming, its not like most here are educated enough on the subject to have a constructive discussion. ive done my "research" i have my opinion and arguments about cattle in India are .. yeah, thats what the climatologists argue when they get together to exchange opinions and come to some consensus.

as i said in my first post, this is probably just troll thread. well, trolls are needed too, not everyone can be wunderbar.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 05:27 pm Click here to edit this post
This argument is ridiculous and a waste of bandwidth.

Nix is a Marxist. Of course he jumps on the enviromental bandwagon.

Climate Science is a fraud perpetrated on a gullible populace. This planet has existed for billions of years and the only thing any of us can be 100 percent sure of is it changes constantly.


Instead of looking at the climate I am looking at the politics. This whole farce is a grand wealth transfer scheme. The UN is involved to hurt the developed world in order to prop up the Third World.

Climate change is the best thing to happen to the Left wing crackpot. Its useful as a club to beat their views into mass acceptance.

If they can brainwash our children with this nonsense then idiocy like the Kyoto Treaty will not meet such harsh resistance in the future.

It also plays into the World Government arena.

Who better to "save the planet" than a single body controlled by Marxists to regulate every person on the planet.

Let me be blunt.

The UN can kiss my shiney, metal ass.

Nix can go and *%$#@ himself with a pointy stick.

This land is mine. The money I make is mine. I will do with both of them as I see fit. Anyone who claims some power over me or my lifestyle I would ask them to come and enforce it. Personally.

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 05:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Sam for President!

nix001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 05:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi Zde. What does a troll thread mean?

Bravo Sam. Yet another post that has nothing to do with the thread.
I know you know man is destroying the natural world which inturn will kill our future generations.
Your post belongs on the environmental thread.

Just got to add this. You yourself are in control of/enforcing/have power over our futures life style. For them it is already personal. Forget the politics. Look at life.
If you have kids or if your an uncle, look into their eyes. You will then see that this land is theirs. We are just gaurdians.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 06:24 pm Click here to edit this post
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2] - wiki


ive done fair share of trolling in past myself.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 07:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh shit. I'm a Troll :)
Hey, you never guess what.
When I was 14 or 15, me and a mate used to sit under a foot bridge and get pissed on cider.
Every time someone walked across it we used to shout out................Dam, what did that troll used to say to those Goats?

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 08:16 pm Click here to edit this post
gawd your here ...go away..


cough snort piss whine, lol Tix

Kiss Of Death (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post
OMG.......now he's talkin' about trolls and goats!!!!!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:02 pm Click here to edit this post
You don't have to click on my threads you know.
Kiss. You should tell your bro to stop using. He don't sound to good :(

Miles Prower (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes we do!

The compulsion... THE COMPULSION!

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:10 pm Click here to edit this post
lol..

Face it Tix, you make most of us laugh, and that is why we come in, thx

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:17 pm Click here to edit this post
I do like putting a smile on people's faces. :)
Now. Can you leave this thread alone so I can catch my fish?

Matthew Haataja (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey I have a 2004 Dodge Dakota v8 sport, vrooom vroom!!!

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:31 pm Click here to edit this post
I bet thats lost a bit in value?

Matthew Haataja (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Na I bought it right as gas hit its peak last summer, so now I could probably sell it for a bit more!!

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
We sent you a lot of letters of support Nix.

Enjoy.

Err any one located on PM on KB might want to avoid going outside for a few weeks.

I think it will be glowing....

jason (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
mmmm fallout.

BorderC (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 10:31 pm Click here to edit this post
But the SIM TREEEEEEES!!!!! NOOO!!!!

You Environment haters!

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:10 am Click here to edit this post
The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters.

Hereby declare a state of war to exist between our empires and the terrorist group known as Mother Natures Army. As we can not negotiate with terrorists our only option is the complete destruction of this Fed and the expulsion of its leader, Nix from the civilized worlds.

May the Sim God have mercy on his soul.

nix001

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:38 am Click here to edit this post
I'm ready.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:47 am Click here to edit this post
lol nix. You will never be ready to take on sam and jason!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:53 am Click here to edit this post
Sams already ran away once on FB.
Now he has his buddies with him maybe this time he will hang around :)

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:54 am Click here to edit this post
Hey lads.......what about FB?
Ok. I've sent a message to my remaining fed members to leave. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS! OK!

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:08 am Click here to edit this post
1. I stripped the bulk of my FB countries before you ever joined SC. I sold my last to Jason. You had nothing to do with it.

2. Your Fed is inactive. So they will be swag.

3. I have always been on LU. Its my home. Feel free to stop on by and have a spot of tea....And my size 12 boot in your ass.

4. Don't call me lad.

5. 114 Nix. Learn it. Understand it. Fear it.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post
Lame excuse.
If you had nothing to lose why did'nt you back up your threat?
Well, now you have your buddies with you, at last the games on :)
Anyways. Jason said that was his country and that you were just borrowing it.
Get your foot out of your mouth lad.

It's funny how things have a habit of coming around again. Out of all those who posted on my environmental thread all those moons ago, it was you who was making the threats and doing all the name calling.
It's not often I get to land the same fish twice.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:32 am Click here to edit this post
See you on the battlefield Nix. You talk entirely too much.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:36 am Click here to edit this post
nix your FB is not worth taking.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:38 am Click here to edit this post
I knew it. Sams anti environmental, your a thief and cock, well he's just a cock.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:41 am Click here to edit this post
blow me noobling. lets see if you have the balls to fight.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:42 am Click here to edit this post
I have an enormous cock that is true....


/me slaps Nix with it.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 01:53 am Click here to edit this post
'blow me noobling. lets see if you have the balls to fight.'
Sam seems to have a thing about cocks. I recon he'll blow you.
Anyways, 4 v's 1 is not going to be easy, but hey, I'll fight till I'm dead.

'I have an enormous cock that is true....


/me slaps Nix with it.'
Dam Sam, you should go to the STD clinic. That does not smell good lad.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:00 am Click here to edit this post
You pissed off four people with such blatent asshattery?

What are the odds?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:02 am Click here to edit this post
Errrrr. 4 to 1 in your favour?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:11 am Click here to edit this post
I'm only on LU nix - so I shouldnt be included in the odds. However, I am still waiting for you to get a slave on LU :)

jason (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
so far on kb its me sam,cc and lg on nix.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:25 am Click here to edit this post
How long do you recon I'll last Stuie?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:34 am Click here to edit this post
To be honest Nix, I don't know what you have on KB, nor do I know what my friends have. However, I am willing to bet that if they are fully convicted to your defeat, it won't take too long at all.

You have 3 top war players on your back there, plus CC to back them up.

At a guess - and if they are fully activated - and you do not go into WP, I give you a day at the most. Probably a lot less.....

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:39 am Click here to edit this post
What me do a Booboo?
No chance.
Lets see if I can hold out longer than a day then :)

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
LU is no place for hippies.

I am taking out 5 of Nix's slaves and a neighbor.

I would wager he will be done within a few hours.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:50 am Click here to edit this post
As I say sam, I don't know what anyone has on KB, but what I do know is;

Nix, your dead dude.....

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 04:11 pm Click here to edit this post
lol a booboo?..lmfao

Archangel1

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 06:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Dammit, don't kill off Nix. It is so nice to have a volunteer to walk along highways picking up trash instead of the guys in orange suits with 'PRISONER' stenciled on the back....

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Archangel1 :)

Before I lose my ability to back up or defend my words on the forum I would like to say just this.

To all those of you who do care about the risk of mankind destroying life on Mother Earth.

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I know that I carry with me spirit of those of you who have been silenced by those who don't care. I have shown you 1 person who will make sure that he stands in the way of people showing you that you are not alone in your fears, tribulations and desire to do something about this risk of destruction. Johanas Bilderburg.

Cockneys not far behind though.
Jasons a thief 'Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:59 pm
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Nix on KB = swag'
and also Johans friend and Laguna.........Probably did'nt like me threatening anyone who was stupid enough to post on my thread. Fair play Laguna(I spy with my little eye :) ).


To the SC community.
I have used this game to try and get over to you that we can no longer wait for evidence. For if the evidence turns up it will mean that it is already to late.
I am sorry for doing that. This is a game and I should have respected that. I do the same down the pubs, friends houses, parties ect ect.

OK. Times up lads.
Lets get this show on the road :)

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 07:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Its not about what you said Nix.

Its about how you presented it.

I dont give a damm about your politics.

I do care when you try and force those politics on others.

Die well asshat.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 07:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix has multis so I'm sure we will see him again.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 07:49 pm Click here to edit this post
If your talking about my brothers and sisters countries then don't worry. After me going on about making free money on this game I managed to talk them into setting some up for my nieces and nephews. Whats wrong with that?

Every now and then when I see a problem and their to busy, I'll log on and sort it for them.
So I suppose you could call me a semi multi.
Anyways. With all the heat I've created, they are getting worried about their information being on the program, so I can see them leaving soon.
Shame. I think after 10 years their countries would be worth quite abit.

Anyway. Which part of 'I'm on every world' did'nt you get?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 08:15 pm Click here to edit this post
I hate months like these.
The days go past so slow then WHAM 10 days have past and it's a couple of days into the next month.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post
I have used every trick in the book on how to present a fact. And every time you and some others would not just dismiss it out of hand, but you would try and destroy the point through name calling, insults and threats. So after 11 months I decided to play it by your rules.
And here we are.

'I dont give a damm about your politics.' Thats the point.
And why get involved if you don't give a damm?

You see I think you do.
Otherwise you would'nt try and close the point down.
I'm just not sure why.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 09:04 pm Click here to edit this post
die like a man nix!

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 09:15 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

And if any of you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia. I will make you pay in Gold coins.




This is the entire point Nix.

You believe something.

You try and force that idea on others using sim-extortion. Thus you are not fit to play on the civilized worlds.

Back to FB you go.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 11:52 pm Click here to edit this post
The civilized world understands there is a problem that can only be fixed if everyone plays their part. It's people like you that harass people who try and keep the flame burning in the minds of the people by dialect that keeps the change from happening. You belittle people to the point where they just want to give up. Not good lad. Thus I had no choise but to give you want you wanted. A path to hostile confrontation.

Unfortunatly the people of KB are now suffering from your lack of respect for other people. The fall out from these nukes will last for years to come. You know for a fact that my army is still intact from my battle with Bobo on FB.
But you chose KB because you could see no army. Due to it being on FB!
WHY DID I BUILD AN ARMY ON FB?
BECAUSE ITS THE WAR WORLD.
WHY DID YOU CHOOSE KB?
BECAUSE YOU ARE PUSSIES :)

Revival (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 12:42 am Click here to edit this post
Shut the hell up, Before i burn more trees.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 01:35 am Click here to edit this post
'You know for a fact that my army is still intact from my battle with Bobo on FB.'

let me run down what nix is showing in FB ( Mil assets, debt not included )


all countries included ( even the MAINS )

Booboohunter 6' 957B
mnair force 2T
the commonwealth of unoddo 749B
the forces of nature 6T
slappa booboo 4.4T
spirit of mother nature 3.3T
supporting the hunt2 3T
booboohunter 2a 1.1T
the united kigdom of sappan 1.6T
mna support 1.8T
twrl1 1.9T
booboo hunter 1.8T
killabooboo 695B
supporting the hunt 1.9T
booboohunter 3a 2.4T
finding booboo nm 719B
run booboob run 187B
booboo hunter vet 1 280B
twrl2 2.2T
mna training camp 2.1T
twrl 3.6T
mna armoury 2T
mna storage depot 800B ( storing debt only )
the united states of mentora 1T
the commonwealth of miranda santos 488B
mother nature barracks 2.1T


now, ill even add that up for you.. that's about
50T

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 02:00 am Click here to edit this post
The United Kingdom of Monca

President: Johanas Bilderburg

Population Size 9,589,380

Military Assets 2,406.63 B



Quote:

The United Kingdom of Monca army takes full control in MN ARMORIAL
After the attack, the president of MN ARMORIAL is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by The United Kingdom of Monca has been nominated





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The United Kingdom of Monca army takes full control in NO 1 MANS LAND After the attack, the president of NO 1 MANS LAND is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by The United Kingdom of Monca has been nominated




You fought well.

You had a much larger military than I.

Refreshing to take on a larger opponent than yourself.


You can take my C3 if you like. I have two larger countries now... :) and can dig in and take out the rest of your empire.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 02:18 am Click here to edit this post
BooBoo. The slaves are full of offensive. There is no Defensive. Quit your bitching and get over it. You should have stayed around to see what I could have done with it :)

Johan.
Don't forget the help you got from Purple skies (Jason)
If it was one on one I would'nt be running around like a blue ass fly fending off the 4 of you and I would have taken out your LRDs ages ago.

Blue Serpent (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
always an excuse, any excuse as long as it fits your way of thinking

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Nix, no one is bitching, i'm stating facts there


You had 3 weeks of at least 1 active war to use all that off.. WI dropped only 2 points

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:57 am Click here to edit this post
It took me about 11 days to take them and about another 6 days to prep them use some and keep you away from them and the final couple of days should have been spent using up the rest of them. But you went into war protection and I never got the chance.

General Bobo (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 06:06 am Click here to edit this post
so, your saying you had 180T in weapons in reserve?

jason (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 06:21 am Click here to edit this post
stfu nix you fought like a noob.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 06:32 am Click here to edit this post
Jason, Crafty Cockney

I salute you. We cleared Paova Major.

Now to bulldoze these trees in the former MNA C3's and turn them into tank kazernes.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 07:06 am Click here to edit this post
Jason. What did you expect? You gave me 2 days to get 12 countries from a state of no active military hardware or garrisons to a state to take on 4 people.
I had just harvested the cash out of them aswell.
The reason you said 'Nix on KB=Swag' was because it was'nt defended.

Sure, your co-ordinated attacks and stratagy delt with the situation, but you know it was the lack of prep time, the amount of countries and the market that was my biggest nightmare.


Basically, you three held me down while Sam gave me a good kicking.
But Mother Natures SOS, MN Air and MN Land still stand.
The fat man should'nt be singing yet. :)

12 countries was way too many. I ended up chasing my tail all night.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 02:18 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)
Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:59 pm Click here to edit this post Nix on KB = swag





That was before I found your massive debt.

Now you are instead a liability.

I did enjoy finding 37 strat bombs.


Quote:

I had just harvested the cash out of them aswell.




I absorbed 22T of your debt. So draining cash? HA!



But it was well worth it.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 04:05 pm Click here to edit this post
What is it with you people? I had no debt before you declared on me. 12 profit making countries and you lot knew that. No active weapons. Very little ammo. Bravo. I bet it was like taking candy from a child hey Jason.
Pussies.
You did'nt even dare take it in turns to throw punches at me. Crew beatings? what can you do?
They took out my offensive and defensive weapons and you just roamed about for god knows how many hours taking out undefended targets. Without there help you would be still trying to take over the first country.
I'm not finished with you lot yet. Mother Natures Army still has 5 countries on KB ready for revenge.
Booboo, you seen my shovel?

Any way I did enjoy dropping a nuke on Lagunas capital and the odd momment when your bully boys were to slow to react and help save your units :)

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 04:29 pm Click here to edit this post
You don't accumulate 22T+ in debt in 24 hours Nix.

God knows how much debt the others acquired.

Revenge? For you being a twit and threatening others over political disagreements?

Get a clue man. You brought this on yourself with your choice of words. You can end this just as easily with your choice of words. Being a whiny little douche is not the answer either.

A small hint. It has nothing to do with nature. It has nothing to do with politics.

Try being polite and non-asshatish.

Apologize for your obviously empty threats. And return to political discussions with those players who enjoy banging their heads into a insane wall.

Once that is done I will have no further interest in you or your beliefs.

Until then I am watching LU and WG as well.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:20 pm Click here to edit this post
It's me that has the interest in you. Like I said. It's not often I get to catch the same fish twice.
Yo I'm the debt myster. I know how to work the banker. Jason what state were the countries in before the dec?
Anyways, I've only just got started. Ask Booboo how it goes.
Some times in a crew beating it's best to roll with the punches and then counter. Yo Stu. I'm still holding on :) We should of had a wager like Johana said.

General Bobo (White Giant)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Ask me what?


Your debt went from 20T ( before first dec ) to 150T ( when last war ended ).


Your numbers are posted above.

Your shovel is up your own arse

General Bobo (White Giant)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:40 pm Click here to edit this post
NIx in WG


Total Income Last Month: 65.45B SC$
View history+18.77B SC$
Total Cost Last Month: 27.40B SC$
View history-102.59M SC$
Result Last Month: 38.05B SC$
View history+18.88B SC$


That's crazy money Nix

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:41 pm Click here to edit this post
No Booboo. U get pissed last night?
Ask you how it goes in war against me. Unless you destroy me or hide into war protection I'll keep on fighting.
Who care's about numbers? War is WAR.
I take example from the USA. :)

General Bobo (White Giant)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:43 pm Click here to edit this post
I was pissed last night? really, i don't get 'pissed' over a game.

Lol never mind using the USA as an example

You made no progress in 3 weeks, wake up dude

You let the wars expire

Never mind my WP, I have bigger fish to fry in FB

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Whats up Booboo? Did them 4 make you look like you don't know how to fight?
Anyways theres that thread where you can question the logics of my actions. It's called General Booboo on the war and peace forum.

Ok Booboo, I'll keep your name off this thread. I'm too tired to repeat whats on the Booboo thread.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 05:45 pm Click here to edit this post
What logic? lol

jason (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 06:39 pm Click here to edit this post
logic with nix? lmao good luck with that.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 07:23 pm Click here to edit this post
May I take this opportunity to congratulate my friends and allies on a job well done.

LG, Sam, Jason and CC - well done. Now shut this damn tree hugger up and SC will forever be in your debt.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 07:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Jason. I hoped that over 9 months of talking to Johana, by now I could have made him see that the environment is not something to be joked around with, let alone dismissed to the point of trying to over turn environmental discussions on the forum with name calling and threats. But to no avail. And like I said. The time has now ran out. 200 years ago Darwin warned us. 50 years ago evidence started to emerge. 20 years ago action plans were called for and still people like Cock and Johana try to make us brush it under the carpet so they will not be forced into changing their habits and desires.
But now were out of time. And when there is no time there is no logic.
So no. You wont find any logic.
The logical thing would to have been to have spent another 6 months building an army on KB, but thats 6 months to long.
(I thought my army on FB would be what I would be fighting with)
The time for logic has past.
Now is the time for doing.



Come on Stuie. Come to FB. I'll give you 6 months to build an army. LU does'nt want my nukes flying around the place.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 08:09 pm Click here to edit this post
omg

Stuart Taylor

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:01 am Click here to edit this post
Nah dude, i don't have the time in RL to build up new empires, so instead I will assure you that as soon as you get a slave on LU, it will be taken.....

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
humans will get used to anything nix.

so what car accidents kill more than the so called terrorists? humans got used to car accidents and live with the negative side affects of driving cars.

its a mental thing. the same way humans will probably get used to other negative side affects of their lifestyles - obesity, allergies, cancer, or warming up of the globe.

is it wise? i like to think its stupid, but question remains if humans are capable of doing what you seem to be asking from them. my opinion is that humans are far from it. humans are far from acting like self-aware, conscious, rational, reasonable beings who can postpone their needs if its beneficial to them, or to their offspring, in future despite they like to think of themselves they are all that.

humans are hairless monkeys, and/because they behave as such.

will this change in the future? who knows .. but for the time being the rope between the ubermensch and the beast is pulling towards the beast.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:33 am Click here to edit this post
Out of interset Nix, are you saying that it is now too late to save the planet? It sounds like it to me......

So, I might as well carry on driving my V6 turbo (9 MPG), turning the heating upto max when it gets slightly chilly, burning my tyres, chopping down trees for firewood, and enjoy the warmer climate!

Bring it on!!!!! Imagine Nix; A hot tropical climate, a Vodka sour next to the warm ocean, and beatiful women wearing next to nothing.....in wales!

Ah.....heaven :)

Johanas Bilderburg (White Giant)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 05:15 am Click here to edit this post
Hairless monkeys with opposable thumbs and a penchant for violence.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 05:37 am Click here to edit this post
Hi Zde. I think it's time to slay the beast.
Mother Natures Army, after a good shoeing, is on the offensive.

No stu. No more time for talking is what I'm saying. For now is the time to stop these hairyless monkeys from killing the planet.

Zdeněk Pavlovský

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 09:34 am Click here to edit this post
how do you slay the beast?

its in us, its our nature. slaying the beast would eventually mean slaying a part of who we are, and im not all that sure it would be a good thing to do.

i don't even think its possible to slay the beast, its only possible to, more or less, control it. if i take it to extreme, not everyone can be a Buddhist monk, but more importantly not everyone want to be a Buddhist monk.

admitting to our nature is great step forward. not towards the ubermensch, but towards finding solutions to the problems the beast made us to face.

wtf does that mean?

well, instead of everyone becoming a monk, we could admit to being hairless monkeys, admit to our limits, and try to work with that knowledge in mind, try to find a consensus which would conform both, our nature and the nature.

education, knowledge, technology.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:10 am Click here to edit this post
What about those who want their beast to be in control, and hope that people will only try and teach them, for then it will allow them to continue doing what they want?

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:54 am Click here to edit this post
what do you want me to say man? ;)

people are different. some are monks, some are Homers, and most are somewhere in between. it can even happen that a monk acts as Homer and Homer as a monk. thats life, and trying to change that, seems foolish to me. change, if even possible, has to come from within in the first place i figure.

so what about those who want to be monks? good for them, hopefully it will bring them what they wish for, but i think monks realize that to impose on another is not the way to go.

we live in society where majority determine trends, determine whats good and whatnot, and i assume we would not like to live in society where minorities would determine the fate of others.

so what about those monks again?

well, either they reconcile with society, or segregate themselves from society, or they can try to fight windmills like Don Quijote.

Miles Prower (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 04:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Your ignorance of general scientific consensus is astounding, Nix. I can only hope that your understanding of underlying principles is not as flawed as your interpretations seem to imply.

From the early to mid twentieth century through to the present day major environmental concerns have done a full 180. In the mid 40s there was major concern of an impending ice age and ecological disaster blamed on human activity and the such much as we see today.

In the end, it turned out that it was actually the residual effects of eccentric vulcanism dating back to the late nineteenth century.

The next focus became the OZone layer. The astounding thing about this is that the concerns came into being in-line with more permanent research-oriented habitations in the southern polar regions. Lifestyles were changed accordingly in order to combat the "damage" humanity had caused - having little to no actual effect, it is worth noting - only for more recent studies and examinations to show that fluctuations in the OZone are an entirely natural cycle within the earth's environment at large.

Man-made global warming is a very recent interpretation of what appears to be a much more natural phenomenon.

Research shows that naturally occuring carbon sinks - the ocean being the primary concern here - are giving off far larger quantities greenhouse gasses than human activity. According to the Internationsal Panel on Climate Change, natural sources emit 150 Gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere every year. This is more than 30 times greater than human activity adds. Also, according to the IPCC, humans have emitted a total of just 270 Gigatonnes of CO2 since the beginning of the Industrial Era 150 years ago., in contrast with what works out as 40.5 Terratonnes from the environment over the same period of time.

The reason we're starting to see climate change appears to be more closely related to a specific saturation level in relation to the earth's oceans and its ability to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, with implications somewhat more closely related to solar activity than human activity. In combination with an effect known as global dimming - a result, quite conversely, of less particulate matter in the atmosphere - the recent trends in climate change seem to be far more effectively addressed via three naturally occuring phenomenon than any sole byproduct of human society.

But yes, Nix. I know. The time for talk is over. Heaven forbid we should all actually learn something which could prove important in future analysis of the earth's environment.

What the world needs is more understanding and less rash action. Destroying the economy to "save" the environment is like shooting one's self in the foot - the economy, and technological development thereof, is the only effective way to move away from what the "environmentalists" see as dirty fuel sources in favour of more renewable ones.

There was a rather interesting article about a pan-European HVDC-renewable power grid in a recent edition of New Scientist which made for particuarly interesting reading. I suggest you look that up as your next talking point.

But, alas, no. Let us end freedom to debate because if it isn't what currently appeals to "environmentalists" the world over then it must be wrong.

But keep in mind - the mechanisms you would deny us are the very tools by which we could save ourselves from what you see as the most immediate threat to humanity.

I do so love your idealised little world, Nix. Is there room in there for one more?

Petra Arkanian (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Miles Prower, whatever worlds you are on, you are the first and only person on my official protect list. Whether you need it or not.

Salut.

In the words of 40-year-old virgin, "Your dick is my dick." ... metaphorically speaking, of course... since I'm phallicly-challenged.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 05:06 pm Click here to edit this post
the general scientific consensus is following:

An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. - Scientific opinion on climate change, wiki

and no, don't not bother to point out that wiki is not source for writing PhD papers.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 06:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Miles. The Eco system is very delicately balanced. A tiny change can have devistating effects to microbes and plant life. Which inturn will effect everything else on Earth. Have you ever heard the phrase: The straw that broke the camels back?
All well and good if Nature tipped the balance through volcanic activity, but for us to did it is just plain stupid.
As for the 20's and 40's.
A warning can never be made up of fact, for we never know whats going to truley happen. And a prediction can never be spot on...I predicted to my bro 7 years ago that there was going to be a housing and economic crash. I told him that it would happen in the next couple of years and that maybe he should sell his house. I was wrong. It took 6 years to happen. 4 years out. But in the grand scheme of things 4 years is'nt that long. At the time I felt like a bit of a tit, but due to my warning he did'nt borrow against it and he lived with in his means. So now it's not really effected him. Same goes with the environment predictions. 80 years ago might seem like a long time to you, but again in the history of Mother Nature, 80 years is no time at all.

It's also not just about CO2. It's about chopping down the rain forests, killing all the animals, polluting our seas, destroying the soil and the overall destruction of the Natural world. Anything man has done over the last 50 years wont be shown in studies for atleast another 50 years. It takes time for our effects to be shown. How much more pollution has man created over the past 50 years compaired to the millenium before do you think?

As for the economy. Man does not have to be payed to come up with solutions. We don't need to swap money with aliens for the new technologys and materials. The ways and means are already here. The economy has nothing to do with it. It's due to the economy that all the solutions have been bought and shelved by the big companies.

We need to shoot ourselves in the foot to stop us from walking down the path of self destruction. For desire seems to control alot of people.

Have you read the environmental thread? Most of this is on there.

It's all about not taking the risk.
Would you put your kid on a bike for the first time without a helmet?
They might not fall off. And if they did, they might not even bang their head. But would you risk it?

I might not be explaining it the best way I can due to having no sleep for the past 3 days :)
Please bear with me

Do you know what will happen if the gulfstream fails due to the melting of the ice caps?

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 06:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Tuco....


See that enormous ball of flaming gas in the sky.

Science discounts any involvement of the sun in the models for so called global warming.

Its a scam. And you got suckered.

Miles Prower (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 09:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you, Petra. Very much appreciated.

Nix, for a moment there I was almost convinced that you understood the point I was trying to make, either consciously or without realising it.

Bravo on expanding your horizons just a little bit.

But again, your narrow knowledge base seems to be letting you down in regards to the extrapolations you make, simply because you appear to be limiting yourself to one side of the argument.


Quote:

How much more pollution has man created over the past 50 years compaired to the millenium before do you think?




I refer you to the global dimming scenario.

What you take as the "destruction" of the natural world is simply yet another step in the fluid nature of the environment.

The idea that the environment is a static entity appears to be a mainstay in the argument most "environmentalists" put forwards. It is a very dangerous one in theory, and downright disastrous in practice. Nature is change. Life is change. Preventing life from adapting and evolving to fit the ever-changing environment would result in far greater catastrophe than anything we see in the present.


Quote:

It's also not just about CO2. It's about chopping down the rain forests, killing all the animals, polluting our seas, destroying the soil and the overall destruction of the Natural world.




You put it all down to human activity, but as has been mentioned before there are numerous factors which have influenced many of the points you bring up - some natural. I would be more than happy to open that can of worms should you so wish. I believe you will find it very enlightening.


Quote:

As for the economy. Man does not have to be payed to come up with solutions. We don't need to swap money with aliens for the new technologys and materials. The ways and means are already here. The economy has nothing to do with it. It's due to the economy that all the solutions have been bought and shelved by the big companies.

We need to shoot ourselves in the foot to stop us from walking down the path of self destruction. For desire seems to control alot of people.




You're missing the point here, mostly because you appear to be looking at the issue from the wrong side.

I'm not saying that people have to be paid to solve issues. What I am saying is that the single biggest innovator is the private sector. Without private investment important research into the green technologies that I assume you wish to see progressed to replace the more polluting ones would simply not exist.

A prime example being the likes of British Petrolleum or Royal Dutch Shell, two big private oil companies which have invested far more in green technologies than most governments.

Or the car company, Toyota, which have pioneered some of the first commercially viable hybrid and hydrogen cell vehicles.

The point I was making is simply that these companies - the ones which can be most readily assosciated with "dirty" industry are the ones who will pave the way to your green paradise.

Shoot them in the foot, if you will. But I would rather let them get on with their jobs and free us from this reliance upon a finite resource.


Quote:

Would you put your kid on a bike for the first time without a helmet?
They might not fall off. And if they did, they might not even bang their head. But would you risk it?




The point here is that if they fell off, the resultant head injury would be a more or less forgone conclusion, so yes, I would.

Applying this logic to the environmental issues you raise suggests to me that you would remove the proverbial helmet by stemming the single largest source of technological innovation, and thus remove the only means by which we could escape your doomsday scenario.


Quote:

Do you know what will happen if the gulfstream fails due to the melting of the ice caps?




May I suggest that you do a little research into paelioclimatology so that you actually understand what would happen if there were no gulf stream?

May I also suggest that you look into the major known factors in keeping the world wide ocean currents flowing, and the gulf stream's place within said system?

Also, turn off your DVD player. The Day After Tomorrow was terribly erroneous in several ways.

But rounding things off, I'll return to the core point of my argument: The single largest threat to life - human or otherwise - remains the natural environment of the earth itself. The processes are there to see, if you will only let go of the social guilt long enough to open your eyes.

You may declare war on me now, Nix. Because I most certainly do not agree with you.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post
"The Day After Tomorrow was terribly erroneous in several ways.' very true but not a bad movie

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Why can't you post this on the environmental thread?
Thats the place where we have been having the discussion. You will find that most of your points have already been answered there.

Could you not post: I have made some points on the environmental thread?
If a thread gets to long it gets deleted.

I tell you what. I'll copy what you have written and put it on there for you.
On there other people than me will discuss with you.

Miles Prower (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:13 pm Click here to edit this post
No two ways around that, Jason.

Nix, it belongs in this thread simply because I am addressing issues within this thread.

Copy and paste wherever you like, but do not expect me to carry on discussion there.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix. Get back to fighting you nancy-boy.

I don't like Paova Major.

I dumped all your countries.

Don't make me have to come and dig you out.

jason (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
lol nix pay off your debt. then come and get us, you know where we are!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:29 pm Click here to edit this post
In a war countries come and go.
I started with 12 and I have 12.
12 countries that will be used when they are ready. Unlike the ones that you all took from me.
You should have taken me out when you had the chance. But you were to busy bragging about a couple of slaves. I still have the three I started with and now Mother Natures Sim Army is on the march.

4 little faggots sitting on a wall.
4 little faggots sitting on a wall.
But it wont be long, till 1 will look life a fool.
Then there will be 3 little faggots, sitting on a wall.


Miles? What issues? :)

Laguna

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Insolence.

Watch your tongue before a ban rips you a new one.

Even more insolence as fruit of delusion. An asylum suits your social skills and intellect.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Helloa Laguna.
How's your country after the nuke?

Laguna (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 11:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Such petty, small-minded and narrow mind. Befits your troglodyte and hypocrite habits.

To seek glory in unimportant, meaningless events is a loser's way to try to convince himself. Such trouble to set your own mind at ease.

I even forgot I had declared war at you. When I remembered, I noticed you had dropped one single nuke with all your skill and glory. And while you waiting for your units to drop, I killed and conquered your countries.

My country is doing better now, actually. I didn't notice it was missing corps and I'm getting the workers I need from your countries. It's a favour I'm doing to the poor sim-souls once trapped in your countries.


Your countries continue to look... inefficient, noobish.

jason (Golden Rainbow)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
noobish nix is. learn how to fight noob nix!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 11:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Yo Laguna. I know. But to me, seeing that mushroom cloud brought a well needed smile to my face.
How do you expect me to fight when I'm getting hit from all sides?
Your lucky laguna. Once that nuke hit, your buddies concentraited their attacks on my strat bases. Unfortunatly, with all the kaos of trying to get my countries into a fighting state, I forgot to garrison most of them.
Infact I did'nt have time to do half the things I should have. You know, all those little things that become big things when you realise you did'nt do them.

Miles Prower (Fearless Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:17 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

You know, all those little things that become big things when you realise you did'nt do them.




Like research, perhaps?

General Bobo (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post
nix at his finest..lol

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:30 am Click here to edit this post
A song for Nix;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r11fwu-oOfM

:)

jason (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:35 am Click here to edit this post
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!! omg good one Stuart! :)

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:44 am Click here to edit this post
Funny :)
But which is it?
You own me or you will own me?
Trust you to bring a song into to it that talks about someones mother.

Zdeněk Pavlovský (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 02:30 am Click here to edit this post
i got scammed? again?

this thread reminds me of Iraq invasion in 03. i guess some people need time to understand wtf is going on, or rather time to put up with it.

i was just stating what the general scientific consensus is, and if the general scientific consensus is a scam or not, thats for everyone to decide for her/himself.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
like the fallout nix?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 03:16 am Click here to edit this post
Environmentalism = scam

50T = Nix dead on KB

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
Like I said. Mother Natures Army is on the march.
Your just bombing used up countries.

Enjoy the debt :)

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 03:43 am Click here to edit this post
Dude - im paying your debt so others can attack you. What else am I meant to do with my thousands of GC????????

jason (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 03:55 am Click here to edit this post
11 c3's mostly in wp too. LMAO

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 04:12 am Click here to edit this post
What a n00b!!!!!!

Nix - if your gonna talk big, come out of WP you st00pid little asshat. Otherwise, shut the hell up and go hug a tree.....

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 04:16 am Click here to edit this post
Calm down stu.
It only takes me 1 day to prep them and then I declare with them.
As I already have done with the first 2 I took.
Anyways. Johana did'nt declare with most of the C3's he took.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 04:43 am Click here to edit this post
lol what world are u in Nix, gawd shut up already..

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 04:57 am Click here to edit this post
Putting a bounty on Nix - 50T
Spending my electricity doing it - $1
Watching him get pwnd while brning tyres - priceless

Blue Serpent (White Giant)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 05:13 pm Click here to edit this post
lmao

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 09:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Booboo. I'm on the world thats dying.
Stu. As long as it's costing you GC's, all is good :)

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:40 pm Click here to edit this post
floating amongst the stars eh nix

Messiah (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 03:08 am Click here to edit this post
Don't worry folks, i'll save you!

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 03:42 am Click here to edit this post
Cool Nix - i'm even gonna drive to Leicester to burn those tyres man :)

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 04:02 am Click here to edit this post
Stuie. I hope your not also picking up Cockneys bill. That dood fights worse than Booboo :)

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 04:08 am Click here to edit this post
Im destroying you with my 000's of GC dude. May take a while - but your gone n00b.

Now, be a good little asshat and shut the hell up...

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 04:11 am Click here to edit this post
Or what?
You'll come to FB and show me how it's done? :)

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 04:19 am Click here to edit this post
Nope, I have a RL dude. However, my GC will speak for themselves.....

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 05:34 am Click here to edit this post
'That dood fights worse than Booboo'


lol Nix...3 weeks my friend 3 weeks lol...2 WI points....great progress

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 10:30 am Click here to edit this post
Booboo. You started it. What did you do? Nothing, apart from lose anything you attacked me with.
If you had'nt have gone into war protection you might have lost your country. For anyone thats interested, have a look a the booboo thread on the war&peace forum. It tells you there what damage I did and how much it cost Booboo :)

CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 10:58 am Click here to edit this post
Nix you are a fool.

Thankyou Sam, Jason and Laguna (and others who supported me). These players introduced
me to a new element of the game, and a right good time was had by all. And the mission was
successful.

Criticising my war abilities is futile as I don't pretend to have any, (unlike yourself), I am just
learning and enjoying the game.

Perhaps if you conducted yourself better nix you would get the time of day from other players
too.

These highly experienced war players took the time to show a complete war greenhorn the
workings of the war engine and probably cost themselves in doing so.
You see, if you talked to people right you could partake in this community constructively too.
People may consider your philosophies, you could make allies to further your cause rather
than alienate people so that they don't even listen to you.

So think about the way you handle yourself, if not for your own benefit, then at least for your
causes - Mother Nature.

nix001

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 07:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Supported you for what?
I had already said on this thread that I would not declare on you.
How can your mission be a success?
I'm still fighting.
Gutted. For hours last night I attacked Jasons air craft carrier with a new Warroir C3. 20000 Navy missile batts.
I had got it down 5000, I attack drone for every 5 batts. Then it changed to 1 AD for 4 NMB, then 3 NMB. If it had'nt of changed Jason would have lost the carrier and weapons.

You still have a lot to learn. So do I. For I have only fought one war and that was against Booboo. And then I only used the air force and ground units (did'nt get the chance to use my CM batts and LRCM batts, your were lucky Booboo)
The war has just started mate.
Can you not see whats going on?
Where do you think Mother Natures Army is marching 2?

You lot don't care about Mother Nature. Thats why I'm fighting you.

Ha. I came straight to the forum when I logged on. With the way you are talking I thought you had taken the Warrior C3 you have been attacking. LOL. It's still there :)
You lot are going to have to do better than this if you want to win.

Aryan (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 08:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix001 I've been hearing about you and what an Asshat you are. So i did a little reading and found it to be true you are indeed an Asshat a mouthy little nothing. If i were you (thankfully) i'm not. I wouldn't Spue any more of your verbal sewage till you have mussel to back it up.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 08:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Your all coming out the wood work now arn't you.
Why? whats going to happen? You going to call me a name?

See it there Stuie. Looks like your boys have bottled out.

Miles Prower

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 09:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Would you like me to proofread your messages before you post them, Nix? I'm sure it would help your cause.

Allow me to translate:

Your all coming out the wood work now arn't you.
Wow, there's more people here than I thought. I must be really unpopular.

Why? whats going to happen? You going to call me a name?
What's going on? Where am I? Where are the voices coming from? God, are you there?

See it there Stuie. Looks like your boys have bottled out.
Phew... Respite!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh no :( A hand full of people don't like me routing out the Anti-environmentalists. Shame :)

Why don't you join in Miles? These lads could do with some help.

Translated:

I don't care.

Come on then.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Quotes from Nix.....


Quote:

For hours last night I attacked Jasons air craft carrier with a new Warroir C3. 20000 Navy missile batts.
I had got it down 5000, I attack drone for every 5 batts. Then it changed to 1 AD for 4 NMB, then 3 NMB. If it had'nt of changed Jason would have lost the carrier and weapons.


OH MY GOD, what were yo hitting the fleet with? A catapult? If you really knew the war engine - you could have taken the fleet in minutes.....


Quote:

See it there Stuie. Looks like your boys have bottled out.


No they haven't - they have stopped cus like your other empires on other worlds, you have nothing worth taking. All you have is C3's that are trillions in debt. Learn to manage your economy, then come play with the big boys.....


Quote:

I don't care.


Damn Nix, that could have been straight out of Hezzy's mouth. n00b.

Miles Prower

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Your sarcasm and implied indifference have a distinct bitter tang to them, Nix.

You care enough to keep posting.

Care for a tissue?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 10:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Quote: 'The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters.

Hereby declare a state of war to exist between our empires and the terrorist group known as Mother Natures Army. As we can not negotiate with terrorists our only option is the complete destruction of this Fed and the expulsion of its leader, Nix from the civilized worlds.

May the Sim God have mercy on his soul for we have none.

Johanas Bilderberg

Capitalist Monster

Sim War Criminal

President of the Bilderberg Conglomerate'


They have realised that they can't do it. Thats why they have stopped. And like Booboo, they will now use the excuse of the debt.

I thought you were paying the debt Stuie?
Whats up? Got a bit to expensive for you? :)

My countries were making a nice profit before the war. It's not my fault if they could'nt take them before they went into debt buying weapons and ammo.
What did you think I was going to do? Keep them in the green and have them taken from me?
You would have thought that 4 of them attacking me at once they would have managed it. What did you say? I'll last a day. And what did Johana say? A couple of hours.
It's clear there all mouth.
Sad.

Anyway. Mother Natures Army has nearly reached it's target. Then lets see what happens :)


Miles. You hav'nt the balls to fight me, so stay out of it please.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 12:28 am Click here to edit this post
Whoever destroys Nix on ALL worlds, I will pay his debt upto a maximum of 100T. There Nix, I just doubled it - no - it does not worry me.

jason

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 12:46 am Click here to edit this post
quit calling sam "Johana" fool!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 12:47 am Click here to edit this post
It'll cost them more than that Stuie. You should double it again.

Where is Johana? It's been a while since the last attack.

Don't tell me he's gonna do another runner :(

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 01:43 am Click here to edit this post
OK then - 250T to destroy Nix on all worlds.....

There you go asshat.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 01:47 am Click here to edit this post
humm, now that sounds more like it!

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 06:10 am Click here to edit this post
Nix you have nothing worth taking. Secured mode will just let you continue to build a debt ridden C3 empire like others I have fought recently. So the question becomes what smacking you around you would gain me.

You like other assorted asshats are beaten and then spin it into a great victory. Whats the point? You have nothing I can take to turn into profit. You will spin off endless C3s for me to take. I fought someone much like you for six real months. Nothing gained. Except now I call him douchebag asshat fuckface instead of shaking hands and going our seperate ways after a great battle. The point of the game is fun not eternal revenge for losing.

You are not going to apologize for being an asshat. You tried to bully others into agreeing with your nonsense. I don't care that you spread nonsense only in your infringment of others free speech.

You are clinically insane. You need medication and psychiatric care.

However I put a foot in your ass for making empty threats against those who disagree with your politics. Point made.

However you wish to spin it I have your flag...And I fixed it.


In conclusion.

Your debt sucked. Your countries sucked.

But its a win for logic, reason and free speech and an epic phail for treehugging Marxist nutbags.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 04:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

Financial Index 142.46
Cash Available 3,976.66B SC$
Debt including inherited loans from closed Corporations -11,760.00B SC$
Loans given to Others 0.00B SC$




Interest on Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ 1,629.17M SC$

Thats half of your 22T debt Nix. I have no debt on any world and now thanks to your crappy country management I have 11T of it on KB.

I would take it out of your hide but you probably have fleas.

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 04:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Sam, this is his game. He'll get a ton of C3s and max the debt and hide behind it. Then when people decide it's not worth it, he'll boast on the forums that you are a pussy, blah blah blah.

Really, there is no reason to reply to him. Anybody that has followed this knows what a sham he is. He lost the war but will claim the win because he didn't have anything else worth taking. He'll talk more and more shit because that's all he's made of.

No need to spend GC, Stuart, that's all he wants you to do. Doesn't cost him a thing to do all of this. He'll get the debt and then eventually quit. Then we'll be rid of him.

Nix is an attention-craving, warped douche. Plain and simple. If the forums had an ignore button he would be long gone.

There's more I can add, but it's just getting redundant.


BC

nix001

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 04:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Johana. You are the one who made me create this thread.

Which part of 'MY COUNTRIES WERE MAKING A PROFIT BEFORE THE WAR' are you not getting?
My main was making around 90B a month and the rest around 40B a month.

As I said, ask Jason why he said 'Nix on KB = Swag'
Now stop doing a Booboo and get on with it.

You don't see the Yanks moaning about the debt of their wars now do you.

BC. You wish :)

CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 1, 2009 - 05:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Shouldn't you be in London, nox, along with all your tree hugger friends, trying to set fire to the Bank of England.

Probably you can't afford the train fare.

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 12:57 am Click here to edit this post
Your KB empire has 50.639T in debt in just the few countries I checked.

Your FB empire debt is much higher.

If you made 90B a month in your main before your asshattery....At that rate of repayment, barring any further purchases of any kind, it would only take you 5632 game months or 3.875 real years to repay this debt....Not including interest.

Nix eliminated by Capitalism. How ironic.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Yes Johana, I saw that on the other thread. Yo Stuie AKA King of Spam. Have a word.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 02:52 am Click here to edit this post
It was funny both times.

jason (White Giant)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 02:53 am Click here to edit this post
"3.875 real years to repay this debt." LMFAO

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 02:54 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

nix001 (Kebir Blue)
Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 02:46 am
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Yes Johana, I saw that on the other thread. Yo Stuie AKA King of Spam. Have a word.


Hey sam, you heard nix - stop the spam or I will set him on you........

LMFAO!

And nix, The king of spam title goes to Hezzy, with you in a close 2nd!!!

nix001

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 03:33 am Click here to edit this post
Jason. You wont be laughing when the time comes to take them off me :)

jason (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 03:35 am Click here to edit this post
come get some then! if you think you can. :P

CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 05:57 pm Click here to edit this post
nix

nix001

Thursday, April 2, 2009 - 06:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Cockney. I can't click on it. There is a massive computer worm getting ready to unload it's payload and I wont risk going anywhere I don't need to.

What is it?

L3athalSerph (Fearless Blue)

Friday, April 3, 2009 - 09:51 am Click here to edit this post
From: MNA Storage Depot
To: Santo Domingo
Real Date: 02-04-2009 18:20:49
World Date: December 24 2633
Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: Re: fed
Message: Forwarded from Flushing Meadows

Hi Jojo. Do you know how much a country can get into debt before it gets closed down?


Had that been Jojo's country he might have told you. Worried much Nix?
lolz

nix001

Friday, April 3, 2009 - 05:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Not really. Mother Natures Army will reach it's target in two days. I will then change leader country. I was just wondering due to what someone said. Do you know?

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, April 3, 2009 - 05:30 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

'MOTHER NATURES SIM ARMY'
Assets -21,340.06 B 0 GC

Population 27,990,659





Quote:

'MOTHER NATURES SOS'
Assets -12,566.67 B
Population 20,396,340





Quote:

'MOTHER NATURES HUNTING'
Assets -1,494.42 B
Population 6,880,757





Quote:

'Alive and kicking'
Assets -8,241.69 B
Population 6,670,310





Quote:

'Mother Natures R1 Division
Assets -1,423.95 B
Population 6,591,914





Quote:

'Mother Natures SF'
Assets -840.45 B
Population 6,068,883





Quote:

'Supporting the hunt'
Assets -2,594.30 B
Population 5,977,767





Quote:

'Natures Recon'
Assets -1,018.10 B
Population 6,927,239





Quote:

'Natures Reserves'
Assets -1,813.92 B
Population 6,192,890





Quote:

'MN Air'
Assets -8,383.96 B
Population 18,289,947





Quote:

'MN Land'
Assets -9,047.69 B
Population 18,197,366






Quote:

'Mother Natures L2 Division'
Assets 716.81 B
Population 6,599,326





Quote:

'Natures 2nd Reserves'
Assets -385.58 B
Population 6,719,523





Quote:

'Mother Natures L1 Division'
Assets -561.02 B
Population 6,623,788





Quote:

'Mother Natures R2 Division'
Assets -1,524.65 B
Population 7,018,743





Quote:

'Mother Natures FWD Division'
Assets -1,098.56 B
Population 6,162,870






Wow you pulled a lot of cash. 63T roughly in the hole...All in 24 hours.

General Bobo (White Giant)

Friday, April 3, 2009 - 06:33 pm Click here to edit this post
nix lol

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Friday, April 3, 2009 - 06:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Not finished yet. Times that by 5 and thats what you lot will own if you try and stop me from attacking my target. If I was Jason and Laguna I'd do a Booboo and jump out of the frying pan.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, April 4, 2009 - 12:42 am Click here to edit this post
That is perhaps the most ludicrous statement I have ever heard.

You wont be attacking anything with most of those so called countries.

Although threatening people with your massive debt is unique.


Asshat.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, April 4, 2009 - 12:48 am Click here to edit this post
WARNING, WARNING......WE HAVE A N00B ALERT, WE HAVE A N00B ALERT.

Nix, don't be so freaking stupid you little asshat - you really think you can take on LG, let alone sam, jason and CC?

Your more of a hezzy than I ever thought.

Asshat.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, April 4, 2009 - 01:44 am Click here to edit this post
nix lol

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, April 4, 2009 - 07:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Hello Booboo :)
I spy with my little eye.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 5, 2009 - 05:30 am Click here to edit this post
After an 11 day march north, through three continents, Mother Natures Army 1st Division has reached the border to the homeland of Craftycockney AKA Lt cock of The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters.

The 2nd Divison is on stand by to respond any threats to the home land.

After a short rest The Forces of Nature will be unleashed on the people of Albert Square for their support in a leader who:

1) Believes that no harm is being brought to the environment through the activities of man.

2) Is unwilling to change his behavour to ensure the protection of our futures environment.

3) Has attacked Mother Natures SOS, MN Land and MN air.

No longer will Mother Nature allow this blatent dis-respect to continue.
Craftycockney AKA Lt cock, has proven to be her enemy and therefore will suffer for it.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 6, 2009 - 12:36 am Click here to edit this post
I should have added at the beginning of this thread that I have been battling with anti-environmentalists on the forum for about the past 9 months. If you hav'nt been following the environmental threads then I wish to just say that my statement was'nt one that just came out of no where. It was bait for Johana and his like to bite.
9 months is a long time for me and others to be banging our heads on a brick wall, while at the same time being insulted and threatened.
So I decided that now is the time for me to knock it down.

Peace&Hardcore...................Nix001
Mother Natures Sim Army

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 6, 2009 - 12:48 am Click here to edit this post
Now Cockney. Do you still stand by your 'Oh my GOSH !!!

This has been going on for approx 14B years, please get over it.' comment?

You have until my Warrior C3's are fully armed to reply. Thats about 24hrs. I'll give you 36 hrs just incase your not on-line. But no longer. I waited for Booboo and he replied with nukes.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 6, 2009 - 04:13 am Click here to edit this post
Nix u twat.....enough with the environmentalist shit..

were not saying death to earth lol..


cant u go one day without crying about something? jeez

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 6, 2009 - 04:35 am Click here to edit this post
I guess you've seen me reactivate Killa Booboo on FB :)

BorderC (White Giant)

Monday, April 6, 2009 - 11:33 pm Click here to edit this post
"I have been battling with anti-environmentalists.."

I doubt there are any "anti-environmentalists" here. That's like calling a pro-choice advocate an "anti-life" advocate.

"It was bait for Johana and his like to bite.
9 months is a long time for me and others to be banging our heads on a brick wall...."

So THAT'S what's wrong with you... tsk tsk... Should have let the wall be.

nix001

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 12:43 am Click here to edit this post
Why?
What good would that do?

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 03:36 am Click here to edit this post
Because you can not force me or others like me to believe what you believe. No matter how hard you stomp your feet and throw a fit.

You also mistake internet personas for reality.

nix001

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 04:20 am Click here to edit this post
I have not forced anyone to do anything.

I hope your not going to stand by and let Lt cockney be hung out to dry? :(
You lads got him into this predicament

nix001

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 04:42 am Click here to edit this post
I know BC. My patience ran out :(
I also know that I should have phrased my war cry alot better. Maybe?????????

For it did get me what I wanted. A war with Anti-environmentalists.
If I had just started declaring on smart mouthed dood's on the environmental threads, I'd spend all my time chasing shadows. This way I'm only fighting those who want it.

Johana. If anyone has forced anyone to do anything I would say you have forced me to respond to you opening the flood gates of insults and name calling all those months ago. You even offered me out to war because you did'nt like my point of view.
It was you Johana that started the band wagon where people think it is now acceptable to belittle people with cheap shots.
Not acceptable.

Once I think that I've made you understand that I'm not messing about and some respect has been regained on the environmental threads, I'll leave you to your game and I'll play mine.
What will make me determine that you understand, I don't yet know. Until then. Mother Natures Sim Army will continue it's fight for the respect thats due to Mother Nature and our future generations.

Quote: 'You also mistake internet personas for reality.'
What are you saying? Your just winding me up?

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 05:33 am Click here to edit this post
Its all about free speech.


I don't respect your inane Marxist ramblings.

I do respect and defend your right to post such dribble.

However others have just as much right to disagree with you.

Its ludicrous to think you can effect change over a games forums. I can't speak for everyone...But as for me I really don't give a shit about your politics. I am here to play a game and have some fun. Period. If I wanted to read long boring posts about the environment and capitalism I would visit hippie sites.


If you wish to post such melodramtic horseshit...Feel free. However in doing so you accept and embrace the rights of others to disagree as they see fit. Up to and including calling you a treehugging ass-pirate with delusions of eco-godhood.

If you don't like it...Stick to game posts.

nix001

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 06:06 am Click here to edit this post
Feel free to read what I have to write. But do not try and stifle me from writing it.
You see, as the president of my countries I have a right to represent the thoughts and concerns of my people through the world forum.

And as the President of my countries I am also free to put down an ultimatum to who ever I wish..........Quote from another President: 'You are either with us or against us'

So as the President of my countries I will continue to lead my people into a just and honourable war against The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters. So as to ensure the health, quality of life and well being for the future generations of my peoples.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 07:36 pm Click here to edit this post
'Monday, April 6, 2009 - 04:35 am Click here to edit this post I guess you've seen me reactivate Killa Booboo on FB'


lol reactivate what? all those jeeps?

nix001

Tuesday, April 7, 2009 - 08:05 pm Click here to edit this post
You wish.

Beast (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, April 9, 2009 - 03:20 am Click here to edit this post
bobo dont forget the catapults, sling shots, and blow darts.

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, April 9, 2009 - 04:12 am Click here to edit this post
.

nix001

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:00 am Click here to edit this post
Formal declaration of War.
Mother Natures Army V's Lt Cockney of The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters.

Happy Easter.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:34 am Click here to edit this post
nix lol

jason (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:36 am Click here to edit this post
OMG nix whats wrong with you?

nix001

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:45 am Click here to edit this post
I tell you whats wrong with me.
You and Johana leaving your fight with me to Laguna and Crafty.
PUNK.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:48 am Click here to edit this post
the hell you just say to me?

Pope Samicus IX (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:50 am Click here to edit this post
You have not done anything but accumulate 170T in debt. I mean we can rip your C3s up and add to it but whats the point?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:51 am Click here to edit this post
I bet you wear make-up at the weekends init.

No pope. For 9 months all i did was build a empire that payed for it's self. War is War. Death is Death. Live with it.

Anyway. Where did you come from? :)

Pope Samicus IX (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:54 am Click here to edit this post
Well no...But if it were so then you have had your ass kicked by a couple of transvestites...How lame does that make you Nancy Boy?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 01:59 am Click here to edit this post
Sorry. I was talking to Jason about the Make-up.
It's just the kind of thing I would expect a PUNK to do.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 02:04 am Click here to edit this post
want me to jump on you again nix? add more debt to you? all you do is fight like a noob and talk a lot.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 03:05 am Click here to edit this post
Lets hope so for Craftys sake.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 02:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Jason, lol i thought i told U he was crazy hehe.
Add to that debt, I smell de-registration around the corner.


Well done nix.................NOT

nix001

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 04:11 pm Click here to edit this post
No Booboo. What you smell is burnt plutonium :)
How comes you are so crap at fighting? I thought I'd use one of your countries as training practice for my Army (as you pussied out last time and hid away into war protection, leaving me with all those weapons and no real idea on what ratios to use) But all thats happened is I've beaten you like an egg. Two times. Come on General. Put up a fight.

Happy Easter you little funny bunny.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 04:28 pm Click here to edit this post
what the..


'crap at fighting' gawd your totally delusional.

you have no weapons, that's why you cant take it. Keep sending those occus lol lame ass


You've beaten no one, your debt will catch up with you soon. One day you'll try to log in AND FIND NOTHING.


'Target practice' lmfao with nukes? lol expensive aren't they?

Instead of just wasting ammo from one of his countries he chooses to dec with all 27 c3's. Why limit debt to just 1 country huh nix lol

well done

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't want to take it. For if I did, training would be over. I told you that already. Why do you think I keep getting your WI down to below 2 and then leave it?

Anyways. I know how to use the Nukes from the last time I fought you (before you hid away). It was all those LRCM's and CM's you left me with that I needed to know how to use.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 04:54 pm Click here to edit this post
u cant get it lower then 2, because i keep unpainting it lol

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 05:06 pm Click here to edit this post
You can think that if you want Booboo. Dope.
But if I have no weapons...........what do I keep pounding you with? From 95 WI to under 2 then left. 59 WI to under 2 then left.............Errrrrrrrr.
Thats alright you little funny bunny. I know you don't like losing, other wise you would have carried on fighting me last time. 1, 2, 3 Arrrrrrrr.

General Bobo (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 06:12 pm Click here to edit this post
lmfao nix is getting mad


he uses '...' whens hes mad aww poor baby


Seriously, now lol. don't you wonder why I'm not putting up a fight, lol u idiot

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 07:01 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't care Booboo. I got what I wanted out of it.

Pope Samicus IX (Golden Rainbow)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 07:17 pm Click here to edit this post
He got more debt Bobo.

That's all he really wants. To be the first to bankrupt out on two seperate worlds.

Its all part of the secret master plan to turn a game into a political statement.

Kinda queer if you ask me....

General Bobo (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 07:22 pm Click here to edit this post
'i got what i wanted' lmfao what was that


And an fyi for ya..booboo never bothered me, its kinda queer that u keep using it, peace out u tit

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 09:48 pm Click here to edit this post
I know. It just does'nt sound as good as Pussy Booboo does it :(

Yo Pope. Whats Pussy Booboo declaring war and anti-environmentalists wanting a war got to do with politics?

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:12 am Click here to edit this post
lol the cussing is back,,


aww poor nixxy are ya mad? sad? aww i sowwie

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:29 am Click here to edit this post
You idiotic, queer tit. You never stopped cussing. Yo, don't tell your sister I said that otherwise she'll try and stick up for you again :)

GM. I'm only repeating what Pussy Booboo called me :(

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:42 am Click here to edit this post
lol ohoh now using my word 'tit' against me eh ohoh ..

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:48 am Click here to edit this post
I'll do better than that. Your a yellow bellied tit that wont stop tweeting all the time.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:59 am Click here to edit this post
ah is that all u got? sad so sad

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 01:00 am Click here to edit this post
I dont want to stress out the GM.

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post
So, your original goal was to waste our GCs. Anybody have to use a GC on nix yet?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Am I fighting you BC?

BorderC (Little Upsilon)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:52 pm Click here to edit this post
That's been the plan, right? We can't have wasted all of those words if we're not going to have decs!

BC

nix001

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Join The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters then. I've been fighting them for the past 2 weeks.

Pope Samicus IX (Little Upsilon)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:32 pm Click here to edit this post
So Nix I herd u like teh mudkips?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
From: Albert Square
To: MOTHER NATURES SOS
Real Date: 13-04-2009 19:38:47
World Date: March 14 2762

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Subject: Fwd: me
Message: Forwarded from MOTHER NATURES G UNIT

nix, I cant fight you because my internet connection is f*cked, on and off, due to them digging up a cable at the olympics site. So go ahead, do what you will.

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It's asif God does'nt want me to punish anyone :(
1st time Booboo, after 2 weeks of fighting, grabbed his chance to buy WP before I could unleash the Forces of Nature. And now this. I know life is'nt fair.....................But this is just taking the piss.

How bad is that??????????????Everything was fine while Lt Cock and the other 3 where bombing the crap out of me. But as soon as I start painting Albert Square..........................
Not Happy.

But then again BC has just joined The Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters and he's in range :)

BorderC (Little Upsilon)

Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Come paint with me then :)

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:00 am Click here to edit this post
Dam right.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:32 am Click here to edit this post
I dont know BC (even though you had already declared on me before I posted my last 2 posts). You treated the Environmental thread with respect, even coming up with a good point. Mother Natures Army has no business fighting you.

Also the last time I let some one get on his feet, he cut my face open with a knife. So I'm thinking that I should keep on attacking Lt Cock. It's not asif he has'nt already given me a shoeing.

Why do you want to fight me?

Pope Samicus IX (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:46 am Click here to edit this post
Because you are a twatwaffle Nix.

Crafty= Not a twatwaffle.

See the difference.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:58 am Click here to edit this post
Pope.
Are you prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia?

jason (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:01 am Click here to edit this post
Nix = asshat

jason (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:19 am Click here to edit this post
how's that fallout nix?

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:04 am Click here to edit this post
Same as it ever was.

Shame for you Mother Natures Army is miles away :)

Pope Samicus IX (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:09 am Click here to edit this post
I am prepared to argue that the nuclear devices currently exploding over your crap C3 empire are raising the sim temperature several million degrees.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:20 am Click here to edit this post
Nix, you fail to realize you and your negative assets mean nothing to me... there are bigger fish in the sea.. for those of you that don't understand, I'm saving my offensive ammo for someone else.


keep an eye on the paper over the next few weeks

Your name may be mentioned nix, sleep tight

nix001

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 03:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Grow up Booboo. If you had'nt have gone into WP I would have done some serious damage to your country (I had already destroyed your Air defence and I was about to use my Ground forces and Missile batts) Get over it and move on. Pussy.

Crafty. I will give you 1 week to sort out another connection. I don't like hitting some-one who can't hit back.

Pope Samicus IX (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Jason and I hit you last night and destroyed all offensive capability in your 5 C3s we were at war with. This will just increase your debt radically as you struggle to continue this pathetic KB war.

Surrender and be forgiven. Refuse and you will forced to go bankrupt and leave KB in shame and disgrace.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Sam AKA Johana? Is that you?
I'm not going to go bankrupt for I will just keep on changing my leader. So looks like you lot are going to have to waste some more ammo. By the way. Those countries are not part of my war effort. Mother Natures Army is miles away. Still can't believe you lot left Crafty to take me on alone.

BorderC (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post
He's not alone.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:59 pm Click here to edit this post
He was/still is. You only joined the fight yesterday.

'nix, I cant fight you because my internet connection is f*cked, on and off, due to them digging up a cable at the olympics site. So go ahead, do what you will.'

If he had'nt sent me this massage I would have pounded the crap out of him by now with no Johana or Jason to be seen.

General Bobo (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix, you worthless sack oh horse shit......30 wings is no where what i can set up...


Like i said watch the paper for war decs.. Youll see how many wings i can put up, you little worthless sack of horse shit.


Prepare your shit hole empire
Im going to roll over all your trees with my tanks.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe now. But then, You lost all interceptors in the air 400x35 and you only seemed to have enough to put up another 8 wings as thats all you put up.
Maybe 800 helis. Next wave would have removed them well easy. With loads of ammo and weapons to make a start on your ground units and garrisons.
All SF units destroyed. Around 50 and I don't know how many L tanks ect.
Not to mention the offensive weapons you lost attacking me.
I lost 8K attack drones maybe.
Around 250 P bombers Max.
0 fighters.
Do the sums :)

If you had'nt have gone into WP this would have all been sorted out by now. The proof would had been in the eating. Instead you pussied out and now your trying to save face. Lame.

General Bobo (White Giant)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 08:48 pm Click here to edit this post
why put up more wings, when i knew you were running out of whatever it is YOU claim to of had...


lol 50 SF wow nixxy major victory there ( you know they wont defend against an attack right nix? lol )
ohoh and L tanks...aww...

General Bobo (White Giant)

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 08:49 pm Click here to edit this post
ill turn it over to Sam and Jason, ive been hogging all their fun

Pope Samicus IX (White Giant)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 03:39 am Click here to edit this post
Took Mother Natures Army and paid off the debt. It will make a great shooter..Once I put in a proper defense, economy, worker education....Pretty much everything,

jason

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 03:43 am Click here to edit this post
nix day 2 =total pwn


lmfao!

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 03:58 am Click here to edit this post
Jason. Don't you mean week 3.
Mother Natures Army is on the other side of the world lads. All you are taking are spent countries. By all means continue.
Now if you really want something to shout about why don't you come to where the army is and fight me? Still can't believe you let Crafty fight me on his own. You did'nt even sent your navies to help him.

Pope Samicus IX (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:58 am Click here to edit this post
Excellent idea asshat.

I am now Crafty's neighbor.

Time to clean house on this side as well.

I will keep on you until you apologize and return to peaceful discussions.

You are an epic fail Nix. I had hoped you would have seen the error of your ways before it came to all this.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:11 am Click here to edit this post
You are Mother Natures and our futures enemy. There will be no peace until you agree to respect those who care.
I created this thread to give those who dont care about mans effects on Nature and hate those who do the opportunity to fight me.
I know you don't care from all the insults and threats that you have made over the past 7 months. And you chose to fight me. I don't concider this to be a failier.

Pope Samicus IX (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:35 am Click here to edit this post
I never asked for peace. I told you to correct your behavior and apologize. Big difference.

I repeat.


Quote:

You are an epic fail Nix. I had hoped you would have seen the error of your ways before it came to all this.


Pope Samicus IX (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:18 am Click here to edit this post
/me slaps Nix around a bit with a large trout.

READ

I do not care about your politics. I do care for the environment and have done far more than you could afford or understand to protect it for my children. But that is reality not a game. I try not to mix the two.

Having said that.

Speak as you like and debate whoever will answer you.

I don't argue with you any longer. I allow others the joy of discovering your bizarre logic.

Do not threaten others over disagreeing politically with you.

Do not be an asshat towards others over real life issues and opinions. This is a game. Not an environmental forum.

In short behave as if you were not insane.

nix001 (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:37 am Click here to edit this post
/me grabs trout and rams it down Popes throat.
So it was OK for you to insult and threaten me those months back?
And it was OK for Booboo to insult and then attack me?
But when I do it it's not OK?
BS.
And now after 7 months of insults, put downs and arguments you come out with 'I do care for the environment'
It's people like you that make me insane.

I will do what I have to do to make sure I challenge the people who dont care about the environment. Whether it be in the cities, in the pubs, in Jerusalem, in the streets or in a game. Any opportunity I will take it. And a game full of capitalists was an opportunity too good to not take. Don't you think?

Now I'm pissed off. Cockney also said today that he cares about the environment and what man is doing to it. 9 F&$%£NG months spent playing this game in the hope that I would fight a Capitalistic anti-environmentalist and I end up fighting a couple of jokers.

Dam.

BorderC (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Like I told you before, nix, I highly doubt ANYBODY here is "ANTI-environment". Most either disagree with your views on global warming, or whatever else you've been talking about, but that doesn't mean that they are the ones trashing the environment.

The people you are trying to find are not playing these types of games. They are careless company executives that pollute to make more money, they are 3rd world countries and citizens, and they are bad or corrupt politicians. I doubt you'll find those people here.

I'm sure, for the most part, the players here, regardless of their ideology, enjoy the earth, want to "protect the environment", and want to leave their kids with the same planet they had growing up. To that end, I doubt anybody would argue with you.

The ones arguing with you are probably just doing it to spite you. Like I said before, you are bringing the "anti-environmentalist" out of people. Your antics have distorted whatever message you were trying to send.

As far as mocking, it's just something you have to deal with online. Bobo has mocked my posts before (the NA vs EU war). Though I have yet to be mocked by Sam or Jason, I look forward to the day when we can all mock each other and sit around tree stumps singing Kumbaya like a bunch of hippehs.

BC

General Bobo (White Giant)

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 01:25 am Click here to edit this post
Nix, idiot is not an 'insult'...you have proven to all SC that you are in fact an idiot.

nix001

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 04:09 am Click here to edit this post
Hi BC. The message I was trying to get over is one of desperation. For we no longer have the time to debate the issue of whether or not man is killing the Natural world. You see, if we all do not act now it will be to late. And if you do not agree, then you will not act. This is too important to just say we'll have to agree to disagree.
As for those who mock, they are worst than those who dont care.
Over the past 7 months it had become clear that words were not going to be enough, mainly due to those who mocked for mockings sake. If I was going to make my point clear, I needed to use actions(hence my antics), even if that meant sacrificing my reputation and empires.
This is the first time I have used a forum to express the urgency of action and to seek out my enemies. From this experience I have learned that it's a waste of time. If I cannot see the whites of my enemies eyes, I have no idea if they are for real.
And as for Booboo, well he's just a prick.

Booboo. I dont know where your from. But where I'm from, if you were to call someone you don't know an idiot without explaining why, you would get a fist in your face. Maybe thats why you spend so much time playing this game.

Pope Samicus IX

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 05:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Dammit Nix you insane little twit.

This is a game not a environmental forum.

You only come across as a pompous asshole when you start your preaching. Its endless spam about real life issues.

No one cares. The people who argue with you have not figured out just how crazy you really are...yet.

Why not visit a hippie site. You will find like minded individuals and you can all dance naked around the Maypole or whatever it is you freaks do for fun.

Keep your real life to yourself.

Thanks.

nix001

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:02 pm Click here to edit this post
So why did FarmerBob start a thread about the Environment?

Also, whats the point in going somewhere, where I would'nt find monkeys like you?

General Bobo (Little Upsilon)

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:50 pm Click here to edit this post
'Booboo. I dont know where your from. But where I'm from, if you were to call someone you don't know an idiot without explaining why, you would get a fist in your face. Maybe thats why you spend so much time playing this game.'

You obviously come form a part of the world that has many crazies like you. I'm from a civilized part of the world nixxy poo.


Preach elsewhere

nix001

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 03:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Don't make me hang you upside down again and slap you with a kipper Booboo.

CraftyCockney (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 2, 2010 - 12:17 am Click here to edit this post
This is priceless if you have the time to read it.
Ahh... sweet memories...

(Whatever happened to Tuco?)

Psycho_Honey (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, June 2, 2010 - 12:28 am Click here to edit this post
Iki, got her buddies to gang style war him from the game :(

Poor Tuco.

Laguna

Wednesday, June 2, 2010 - 02:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I write the nicest posts at times.

I'm pretty sure tuco left because he wanted to. Why he left?... Who knows?

Dubletar (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 2, 2010 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Through all that, Funniest thing I read is :

Revival:" I burned down my Christmas tree."

LMAO!!!

Stuart Taylor(?): "We all live in a yellow submarine... A yellow submarine...... "

Jason: "the hell you just say to me? "

hahahaha

nix001 (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 11:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Highways, Roads and Train Tracks

To beautify your map you can choose the percentage of Roads and Train Tracks that should be painted on your country map. You can exaggerate up to 300% to beautify the map until you have time (and money) to build infrastructure.

Yo GM..........U a ghetto monkey? Next you'll be telling us buildings are scenic!

Surely to beautify your country you should (if one wished) be maintaining woodlands and countrysides?

Aaron (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 12:39 am Click here to edit this post
because what this game really lacks is little tree and rolling hills icons right?

Crafty (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 02:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey, I have a couple of lakes in one of my countries. What more could you want?

nix001 (Fearless Blue)

Friday, May 6, 2011 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyYizYZKFtU&feature=related

nix001

Friday, May 25, 2012 - 01:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Dear friends,

The Brazilian Congress has just passed a catastrophic forestry bill that gives loggers and farmers free rein to cut down huge swaths of the Amazon. Now only President Dilma can stop it.

Fortunately, the timing is on our side -- in weeks Dilma will host the worldâs biggest environmental summit and insiders say she cannot afford to open it as the leader who approved the destruction of the rainforest. Sheâs facing mounting domestic pressure -- 79% of Brazilians rejecting this new bill Now, let's turn up the global heat and push her to axe the bill, not the rainforest.

Dilma will make her decision in the next 48 hours! Let's get her to veto the bill. Click below to sign the urgent petition to stop the Amazon chainsaw massacre and if you have already signed -- send this to everyone:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/veto_dilma_global_final_push/?tta

The Amazon is vital to life on earth -- 20% of our oxygen comes from this magnificent rainforest, and it plays a key role in mitigating global climate change. Over the last decade, Brazil has vastly reduced deforestation rates, achieving a 78% decline between 2004 and 2011. The reason? A world-acclaimed forestry law, strong enforcement and satellite monitoring.

But this dangerous new bill would open up an area the size of France and Britain combined to clear-cutting and gives loggers amnesty for all past deforestation crimes. This would not only spark total forest devastation in Brazil, it would also set a bad precedent for other countries. Thatâs why itâs so crucial that we all protect it.

Brazil is a rapidly developing country, battling to lift tens of millions out of poverty. Despite evidence that growth does not require deforestation, Dilma is under pressure from the powerful agricultural lobby that helped her get elected to cut down rainforest for profit. And it is an ugly battle -- activists are being murdered, intimidated and silenced. But ex-Environmental Ministers and people across Brazil have sent a clear message to Dilma that they want to save the Amazon. Now, itâs up to all of us to stand with them and urge President Dilma to remain strong.

The fate of Brazilâs rainforests is dangling by a thread. But, with President Dilma so vulnerable to public pressure right now, we can bring the global force of people power to get a win for our planet! Sign the urgent petition below and tell everyone -- the petition will be delivered by Brazilâs former Environment Ministers directly to Dilma:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/veto_dilma_global_final_push/?tta

In the last three years, we have won battle after battle against the odds. Now, letâs come together to stop the destruction of the Amazon, protect our planet and herald Dilma as a true international environmental leader.

Tom Morgan

Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 12:30 am Click here to edit this post
Epic-est bump ever.

viper7j4z

Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 01:30 am Click here to edit this post
Ok this is my 2 cents and then i will say nothing else. GOD CREATED THE EARTH and HE ALONE is going to be the one to destroy and start because we have screwed up this one SO BAD that he will have to start over again. This is not religion it is fact. So go ahead and bash this post till your hearts content.

Marshal Ney

Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 02:39 am Click here to edit this post
I have a great way to lock up massive amounts of carbon to prevent global warming.

Cut down the rain-forests. Replace them with asphalt.

Tom Morgan

Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 08:03 am Click here to edit this post
"Tore down paradise, put up a parking lot oooooooo park park park park ooooooo park park park park"

maclean

Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 08:18 am Click here to edit this post
Rofl :)

nix001

Monday, May 28, 2012 - 01:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I started playing simcountry to fight capitalists who denied the effects of their actions on Mother Nature.
Hows this for uncanny?

I found this about a possible Eden Project in China:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-12769679

Paste it into google and read the bit on 'smart people'.

Here, if you can't bring it up, is part of the article:
'Smart people'
He said the Singapore project would be like an interactive computer experience in which people could make decisions about the island's ecology and habitat.

He compared it to the popular Sim Country computer game.

"We want to create a living Sim Country for them and their scientific community."

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Gunther Shamus

Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 07:15 am Click here to edit this post
I think your all bitches :)

fuck the communists!!!

Crafty

Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 06:41 pm Click here to edit this post
For once I actually agree with Nix on this one.

What is proposed (I dont know the full bill) is absolute lunacy.

maclean

Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 10:17 am Click here to edit this post
@ gunther: ditto on commies, lol. Nix, not all capitalists want to turn the earth into a CO2-saturated desert full of radioactive toxic waste dumps. :) As for Brasil, having lived there several years, you might be surprised to know that the current head of state is a radical socialist, who was a card-carrying communist activist in the past. Unless things have changed, and I don't know whether they have or not, Brasil's politicians are prone to flamboyant, outrageous propositions which they have no intention of implementing, to gain attention. They will never clear-cut the rain forest; in future, they may use it as a bargaining chip on the world economic stage, and this the wind-up.
Personally, I am what would probably be labeled as a right-wing capitalist extremist gun-totin', cope-chewin', heterosexual, red-blooded , freedom-loving American man. Come to think of it, that's exactly what I am, and --I-- am against clearcutting the rain forest. So there :)

Lord Lee

Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 01:01 pm Click here to edit this post
The Global temperature of earth has always changed through out the history of the planet. Humans may have accelerated the average global temperature but are not solely responsibly. It is likely that the temperature of the earth would have still increased but not as much as it has done.

Also I believe that there is no need to worry because with the advances in science and technology we will soon be able to control the weather and the global average temperature on earth.

Crafty

Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 08:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Lol, but would we be able to find all the rare species often giving up secrets to important medicines and technology and the million other fascinating things the forest has hidden in it?

No, I didnt think so.

nix001

Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 02:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Very good point Crafty. Lord Lee we don't have time. You can spend hours building a domino run but once the first one is pushed it only takes seconds for them all to fall.
So now its happening (Mother Nature is dying) who still thinks its lies? If you do I will make you pay for your ignorance by destroying your game! I'm sick of those who choose to deny instead of making the sacrifices needed to ensure our future generations have what we had......a life worth living. And to the Coalition of Capitalist Tree haters I'm ready for round 2 if you don't like what I'm saying....Bring it

Pink panther

Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 07:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Going green is just a new religion for liberals. Waste of real assets, time, Money.
Rob

nix001

Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 11:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok Pink panther that is all I needed to hear

Serpent

Sunday, May 19, 2013 - 05:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

So now its happening (Mother Nature is dying) who still thinks its lies? If you do I will make you pay for your ignorance by destroying your game!





Quote:

Going green is just a new religion for liberals. Waste of real assets, time, Money.
Rob




Out of curiosity, whatever happened with this threat?

hhh hhh

Monday, May 27, 2013 - 06:19 am Click here to edit this post
i can piss on you all if that'll help.

dboyd3702

Monday, May 27, 2013 - 06:57 am Click here to edit this post
Fear mongers, a group of people who use pseudo-science to strike fear into the masses to make massive profits.
In the 60s and 70s it was the threat of worldwide nuclear war, in the 80s we were on the verge of an Ice Age, then Global Warming and now Climatic Change.
Look at the people who feed the fear, Al Gore for instance, before his Global Warming film he was worth about 1.7 Mil, now 200 Mil...
The average temperature of the earth has been estimated to have increase somewhere between .7 and 1.7 degrees in the last 100 years. We are in the Tropical Period of the Ice Age cycle, temperatures are supposed to go up. Also note that the average temperature of Mars has gone up about the same, are we to blame for that as well?

Scarlet

Monday, May 27, 2013 - 08:08 am Click here to edit this post
The threat of nuclear war was very real though...

Antonio Cameron

Monday, May 27, 2013 - 12:47 pm Click here to edit this post
The Earth is gonna die no matter what we do, it's always gonna die, you can get rid of the industry and let the Ozone layer repair it's self, The world will still die. It's a scientific fact that is a few billion years the sun will explode destroying everything from Mercury to Pluto and even further, THE WORLD WILL DIE. Nasa is already beginning recruitment processes to colonize Mars, eventually we will fully colonize it and our great great (great[for some of you]) will be able to go there for vacation or something, and will be colonizing other planets.

BTW for those that don't know, Swag was a group created in the sixties' Acronym for their name "Secretly we are gay" and they don't mean the happy gay, as they were all homosexual in the group. Oh and please someone don't call me Homophobic cause i'm not.... to an extent.

Laguna

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 12:51 am Click here to edit this post
Calm me crazy, but I would much rather live the remaining years of my life in quality than to live in overindulgence and dying significantly earlier from OD. That's the choice of any rational being, that's the choice of any rational society.

We need a meme for "no crackpot theories allowed".

T Mac

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 04:33 am Click here to edit this post
Yeah Dboyd what you forgot to mention about your fact there that is most of that increase has happened since 1979 (.72 deg increase) now that may not sound like a lot but it is the difference between freezing and melting. Much of the permafrost up north is trapping methane, and when it thaws releases the gas. To say that everything dies like Cam does is a waste of time because it is logically moronic to make your current habits and POV on such a philosophy. Similarly the argument that this is some liberal plot is avoiding the issue, similar logic in the idea that Al Gore is only in it for the money. The issue is greater than your view on Gore and liberals as more massive storms pick up more water and drown out our food supply and ruin our infrastructure. I hope Brazil doesn't cut down the rain forest for timber. While it is easy for us to say it is looney to worry about something so far away or something that has an unclear or indirect correlation, we need to do what we can now to preserve our world for our children. I suggest you educate yourselves to this topic and stop being dismissive. You can change a little and effect a lot such as using public transport more, using less energy, and choosing to buy sustainable products not made from brazilian wood. Becoming an informed consumer is the first step.

Crafty

Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 02:53 am Click here to edit this post
Human existance is such a brief speck in time and space that we might as well be a singularity. Hence to consider that we can have any influence on the picosecond of time we occupy is completely irrational.

This leads me to believe that, in the human time frame, the urge to live benevolently must be down to some deep rooted guilt for any of our actions. Well, guilt is not nature, it's nurture, so the question to ask is: who or what is instilling this guilt?

Scarlet

Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:33 am Click here to edit this post
Antonio, I can assure you those early posts were using an entirely different meaning of swag... one that you can find in a dictionary.

Scarlet

Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 07:11 am Click here to edit this post
We should totally throw the third world under the bus to save the environment. That's probably a few billion less people damaging the environment... and I've never liked those BRs. Stop them from developing!

maclean

Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 12:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Re: the death of Earth due to expansion of the sun: Keep in mind that once the sun expands, it will eventually turn Mars into a cinder as well. For that matter, the only way to escape is to get to another star system altogether. But wait! EVENTUALLY that star will also either go nova or go Red Giant, thus the scenario repeats itself. The only solution seems to be to keep on the run from star to star, staying one jump ahead of catastrophe. But wait! The universe will EVENTUALLY end when entropy finally completes its rundown cycle, so all life is totally doomed anyway, eventually. Say a few hundred billion years, give or take...

Otto Ozgard

Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 09:59 pm Click here to edit this post
human culture instills this guilt crafty

nix001

Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 04:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi T_Mac. Facts are ignored by this lot. I think it scares them too much. They know that if they accept these facts they will have to change their way of thinking. Then they will have to change their way of life. And to them, that flies in the face of freedom. Even though we are Guardians first and free second. The soldiers of the great wars must be turning in their graves at the lack of responsibility and sacrifice by alot of the last two generations. Hi to you all. Hope all is good. Helloa Serpent. Spring is here and I have little time. When I have a spare month I'll send him a PM to see if he is for real. Hi Antonio. Is that what your gonna tell your Grandchildren when they ask you if you helped to save their Natural World? 'I did nothing cus the worlds gonna die in a couple of billion years anyway' How do you think they are gonna feel about you?

Otto Ozgard

Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 09:03 pm Click here to edit this post
hey nix i agree with you mostly

Serpent

Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 09:11 pm Click here to edit this post
There is probably some truth to those statistics. But look at what these so-called 'Green' people/organizations want to push. They want to do more than act in what their view is responsible for the environment, they have an agenda that allows them to profit off of what they try to claim as a noble act. One good example of this is Al Gore, one of the most dishonest of all politicians. So even though its true that taking care of the environment is a good thing, the great majority of those that push this agenda are scum that is attempting to profit from fear.

Otto Ozgard

Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 11:10 pm Click here to edit this post
well like nix said.... its gonna take a changed view or perspective not programs initiated by politicians

Antonio Cameron

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 02:35 am Click here to edit this post
Cause our the children in the future are gonna care, i'm only fifteen, most people on this game will have great grand kids before I have grand kids and my grand kids and your great grand kids wont care about whether we helped the planet or not. I know we need to protect the planet and that even though the sun won't kill us for a few more billion years we need still need it for that time. But what I am saying is no matter what we do, it is most likely too late, the ice caps are barley there, the ozone layer is destroyed we have less trees then we should have because of big corporations being built and stuff. No matter what we do Nix it's too late, and I understand that.

maclean

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 03:46 am Click here to edit this post
My point was mostly that it is fruitless to fill with angst about the destruction of the earth, as it is all going to end someday, anyway, no matter how much you wring your hands about it. I am not for mindlessly raping the entire planet just for rape's sake, but I do believe the ultra-"Green" movement is the new religion, and what has history shown us about rabid religions?

T Mac

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 04:33 am Click here to edit this post
I think you fatalist out there are missing the main point. If we don't do something now, then when? And if not us then who? We have the ways and means to plant trees, buy sustainable products, use less gas, eat less meat, recycle. It doesn't harm us, pinch our freedoms, nothing. It's about being conscious that if we don't, bad things will happen. Those selling the cool aid don't want you to consume less because the will sell less. What happens down the line in 10-15 years when cycles of drought and floods wipes out our food supply? What about massive storms that take out our coastal homes and neighbors? Will our freedoms be impinged then? How about when it is too expensive to buy home insurance and the govt doesn't help? I'm not saying change drastically now because it is popular or religious. I'm saying the way things are going looks grim and it will only get worse.

Scarlet

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 05:10 am Click here to edit this post
Fun fact: only ONE ice cap is shrinking. The other is growing.

The way I see it is that the "solutions" posed are problematic. Especially if certain other things are true...

For example, if we will eventually run out of fossil fuels then the dwindling supply and increasing energy demands of a growing and developing world should make it so that other energy sources become more cost effective than fossil fuels... in effect, this is an example of something that will solve itself. Once solar/wind/whatever is cheaper to produce than coal/oil/whatever, then at that point, it will be entirely rational to go green.

Another issue is that it seems like it would be more beneficial for everyone if instead of pushing for people to (in)voluntarily decrease their consumption or alter their lifestyles radically, wouldn't it make more sense to assume that people live like they do? Meaning that rather than solutions that tell people to do things they wouldn't normally do, why don't we find solutions that take people's normal behavior for granted?

Alternatively, who wants to be the one to tell the Chinese they can't use coal?

Alexander Bella

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 05:30 am Click here to edit this post
agreed scarlet but what if the technology to live sustainably isnt their to save our ass when fossil fuels run out... idk leaving it up to capitalism to save the world seems kind off foolish

maclean

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 11:01 am Click here to edit this post
Ok, here is the next liberal solution (I have heard this one several times, and they said it with a straight face): Cut the world population to around 100 million or so. That's over a 99% reduction, people, and even less viable than some other "radical" solutions. And don't get me started on the fallacy of the Malthusian doctrine.
BTW, I agree that once fossil fuels start running dry, people WILL suddenly be clamoring for nuclear power, ethanol, biodiesel, etc., whatever energy forms are being shunned by greenies right now. And keep this in mind: the military will have to stockpile years of fossil fuel if it comes to a crisis in supply, We might as well start making more progress in nuclear power right now.

T Mac

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 12:05 pm Click here to edit this post
You all make really good points as to possible solutions, however most of them require significant efforts by either the government (in the pocket of big oil) or other entities where it is not in their best interest to change. Recently an article was posted by the Electricity Association noting that their market was decreasing in power generation and they needed to address the possibility that solar posed to their business model. A good example of how the market will drive business to make changes. But most of the other "solutions" are not viable. Eliminating 5.9 billion people from the world is not going to work. Ethanol, biodiesel, gas, oil, oil sand, and coal are all fuels that have the same issue as what we are doing now albeit that at least ethanol and biodiesel remove some carbon when growing. I know a lot of people like the idea of nuclear power, but where is the waste going to be stored? How about in your town? The problems with all the solutions are that someone else has to make the change, continuing the idea that we, me and you, don't have to change. My point is that if we make small changes now (the first is being conscious of our own consumption and waste) then we can be part of the solution. We can move the market with logical and pointed buying decisions. But it requires you all to understand why you are doing what you are doing. Nix started this thread 4 years ago to raise awareness. This is all part of the same point. Being aware is needed. Making excuses and asking others to change while you do not isn't going to work.

nix001

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 11:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Scarlet. It is down to the stronger winds in the Antarctic (due to climate change) pushing the ice out to sea. The Arctic is mainly influenced by the sea temperature, which is why its melting. Ok now there is 400ppm CO2 in the atmosphere. Last time those levels were on Earth was 3 million years ago. The level required for life as we know it is 350ppm. Does it look like we have time to wait for fossil fuels to run out? Antonio bro.....I feared this would happen....from 'theres no problem' to 'its too late to do something about it' Sounds like all excuses to me. Keep the hope alive mate. Otherwise it will be to late. Hi Otto, well said. Helloa Scarlet. Dont let those who are rewarded for making the change stop you from making the changes you need to make ;)Yo Maclean :) how are ya? T_Mac Your spot on bro. Ten years ago these small changes should have been made and it would have been so painless due to it being the right thing to do. But today? Its gonna hurt for us to do the right thing :(

nix001

Friday, May 31, 2013 - 11:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry....Hi Alexander. Yea its like asking a thief to install a lock lol

Alexander Bella

Saturday, June 1, 2013 - 12:42 am Click here to edit this post
i dont see how eliminating 6.9 billion people is "liberal" maclean..... The way i see it is this energy crisis is going to at worst cause anarchy and millions if not billions of death and destruction and at best going to make the average person unable to thrive in what we call the middle class..it will cause rampant unemployment greater stratefication of society basically a dark age.... we can ethier continue on our path and fight tooth and nail to be at the top (capitalism) in order to "enjoy" life or sit around and hope technology saves us or we can take steps to make sure there is enough for everyone and the world through various forms of population control...... Tmac it is not generally natural for people to not consume as much as they can.... our current society is very idealist.. meaning it will only be sustainable if people were more or less perfect if people all did the right things consume responsibly, go to school, dont do drugs... if we were all perfect we may succeed in conquering nature once and for all or nature will defeat us ethier way it sucks i dont want to live in a world 100% dedicated to keeping humans alive nor do i want to see human civillization collapse

Alexander Bella

Saturday, June 1, 2013 - 12:44 am Click here to edit this post
that wasnt the best written message abit incoherent i skipped around abit

Roving EYE

Saturday, June 1, 2013 - 12:56 am Click here to edit this post
after a few pints and such, and having such a nice night out im abit incoherent anyway, we did dance around our local town jumping, skipping and dancing like such pratts, and while we all was doing all this we never thought bout global warming tis BS ANYWAY!

Laguna

Saturday, June 1, 2013 - 01:31 am Click here to edit this post
Biodiesel is murder!

But no, seriously, it has got to be the worst possible alternative to fossil fuels.

I'm for nuclear energy.

Alexander Bella

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 05:33 am Click here to edit this post
why is biodiesel murder its just using plants as a factory for converting sunlight into chemical energy... same as if we used solar panels or nuke plants to make electricity to fuel my (shudder) prius .... see this is what I mean by standard of living ... I don't want to drive a prius

Scarlet

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 08:06 am Click here to edit this post
Don't get a prius to save the environment. The production process for all that hybrid equipment uses plenty of coal-based electricity... and the gas savings aren't great. Not to mention that battery production probably pollutes more any other vehicle component around (though that's probably mostly because the lithium comes from China). And the 5 year running cost + initial cost for you as a consumer is probably more expensive than any standard compact. You're paying more, polluting more, and driving an inferior vehicle. Getting any non-hybrid compact sedan or wagon is probably better... in every single way. If you want to pat yourself on the back and feel like you're making a difference, get a prius... it's not true and you'll look like an idiot, but you'll feel good about yourself.

And if you think plug-in eletrics are better, remember that most of that electricity is probably coming from coal-fired plants.

Also, you don't want to promote any "alternative" fuel that requires vast amounts of cropland.

Do some research.

nix001

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 07:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi Scarlet. Do you desireless for material wealth and consumeless now you know how much damage desiring material wealth and consuming is doing to our future and environment? Hey Roving eye. I've seen ya. Anyways if we desireless, energy consumption will be reduced to levels that our scientists could work with. Remember.....most pollution is created through your desires to have what you want. If we lived for what we needed our future will have what they need to live. Profit creates a need to have more than you need. Profit takes away from those in need. Desire and profit are the Devils work. How many of you here can say you are not helping the Devil destroy Gods creation?

edit# I am agnostic for anyone who was wondering why I have brought the Devil and God into it. I'm using them as a metaphor (if thats the right word?)

Scarlet

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 10:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I think if I were a god, I would like to be the god of desire.

If we desire nothing of life, why should we bother living? There's no innate value to life without things to give it value. And things only have value because we desire them.

If we're talking about sacrifice, why is it we who should sacrifice for the future and not the future that should sacrifice for us? There is no fundamental difference between taking one of these positions over the other... aside from the fact that we've got the jump on the future in terms of being able to force the issue.

On the other hand, the only reasonable solution is one that does not require sacrifice. If you sincerely believe no such solution exists, then by all means, we are better off taking as much as we can while we still can... because there's no fundamental difference other than who is making the sacrifice.

If you can't come up with a solution that doesn't require sacrifice, you're not solving the problem. Because the problem is how we can best fulfill all of our individual desires.

T Mac

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 10:33 pm Click here to edit this post
Scarlet- I think you have taken desire and owning and combined them. I can desire lots of things in this world, but it doesn't mean I will have them, not does it mean that I will be happier if I have them. Thoreau stated that we down own things, things own us. We end up working to support the things we desire. Similarly the buddists believe that desire equals suffering, because we want, we suffer. Your point regarding sacrifice is totalitarian. Right now we are taking from the future, just like our parents have taken from us with extreme wasteful consumption, ie no recycling, inefficient motors, etc. In the world there is a concept that we need to be conscious of how our actions affect 7 generations from now. Living simple so that others may simply live. The idea shares a line with "we belong to the earth, the earth does not belong to us.". Your desires that you speak about reflect consumer based happiness which is predicated on getting and consuming new things. It is also predicated on the idea of instant gratification. We can also fing gratification in self sufficiency, in living by a standard of resect for others, even those not here yet. We can find that relying on ourselves is a desire, and receive gratification and purpose through providing for ourselves much like we do when we work for the man"

Alexander Bella

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 11:50 pm Click here to edit this post
well said Tmac.... Scarlet we are eventually going to run out of enough farmland for people look at our population growths... earths population doubles every 35 years we have 7 billion people and many experts think earth can support 10 billion people if limited by the amount of arable land (and we were all vegetarians)..... obviously any sort of elitism like we see today would cause massive poverty on lower ends of the spectrum (i wonder if thats what we are seeing today already) if we were to live on the edge like this..... and scientists are trying to figure out how to turn non food organic materials into biofuels.. stuff that can be grown in non arable places like certain grasses

Alexander Bella

Sunday, June 2, 2013 - 11:50 pm Click here to edit this post
well said Tmac.... Scarlet we are eventually going to run out of enough farmland for people look at our population growths... earths population doubles every 35 years we have 7 billion people and many experts think earth can support 10 billion people if limited by the amount of arable land (and we were all vegetarians)..... obviously any sort of elitism like we see today would cause massive poverty on lower ends of the spectrum (i wonder if thats what we are seeing today already) if we were to live on the edge like this..... and scientists are trying to figure out how to turn non food organic materials into biofuels.. stuff that can be grown in non arable places like certain grasses

Antonio Cameron

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 02:30 am Click here to edit this post
Were gonna have Mars in the next 100 years so population is not that big of an issue anymore, and eventually we might have other planets once our dumb scientists realize they should be working on transforming and artificial habitats that block out (or grant) sunlight and supply's oxygen so we can colonize Venus and other terrestrial planets. After that hello new solar system.
Eventually people wont be influenced by their country but by their planets and what Earth country owns the planet.

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 04:34 am Click here to edit this post
well if population grows exponentially we will need more then our one solar system we will need to spread throughout the universe conquering expanding and consuming... the plot of several alien invasion movies... and this is not the natural way for people to live

Scarlet

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 10:23 am Click here to edit this post
T Mac, I'm assuming that if you desire something, this is implies that you're going to do what it takes to get it. Anyway, you haven't disproven my statement. How is the future sacrificing for our sake any different from us sacrificing for the future's sake? My point is simply a rational one. If someone is to be the sacrificial lamb, it's entirely rational to make sure it isn't you. If we've decided that someone sacrificing is the only way, all that's left is fighting.

You seem to be misunderstanding me anyway. Sacrifice is the most retarded way of handling the situation. Live simple so that others can live simple... what could possibly be wrong with this? For starters, what if neither us nor the future wants to live simply. I shouldn't live in a manner I dislike so that some future can generation can repeat the cycle unhappily over and over. There's no reason for it. If you want to live simply, cool, whatever... that doesn't mean everyone wants to.

Look, there are plenty of things that people desire that aren't material things, but there are plenty of things that are. There is no fundamental difference between whether you want a material or immaterial thing. Arguing that you should just ignore your desires is stupid. The only reason to ignore a desire is that it is overall detrimental to the totality of your desires.

The earth doesn't think, the earth doesn't breath, the earth doesn't feel. The earth is only important to the extent that it provides for human needs and human desires.

There's a word for the phrases you're saying... they're called bromides. They mean nothing.

To reiterate my point, you need to come up with a solution that doesn't require sacrifice. Otherwise, you solve nothing. You just avoid the problem. It's like if my TV were broken and you told me not to watch TV anymore... the problem is I want to watch TV and the TV is broken, telling me not to watch TV completely misses the point.

Antonio Cameron

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post
"well if population grows exponentially we will need more then our one solar system we will need to spread throughout the universe conquering expanding and consuming... the plot of several alien invasion movies... and this is not the natural way for people to live"
Perhaps I should Capitalize something that you must have missed me saying.
"colonize Venus and other terrestrial planets. AFTER THAT HELLO NEW SOLAR SYSTEM"
Eventually yes we would have to go further but I think our Galaxy will last us for quite a long time. Also the people that go and Colonize would be volunteers or the military not random people that they say have to.

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Antonio population growth is exponential this means if we can fit 5 billion people on a planet and we have 1 planet then in 30 years we will need 2 planets (population doubles every 30 years) then in another 30 years we will need 4 planets... then in 30 years we will need another galaxy... then in 30 years we will need 4 galaxies then 8 then 16 then 32.... all in the same time frame.... this assumes of course that what your saying is actually possible which at the current rate of technological advance it is not.... the difference between us sacrificing for the future and the future sacrificing for us is that one is inherently selfish and asinine and only a nihilist would disagree... and theres plenty of "simple" ways to live that arent terrible lifestyles so your argument is pretty irrelevant you just have to experience them or create them.. obviously theres no one right way to live but everyone can find there own way to live in harmony with nature and the earth our genetics and thousands of years of evolution have proved this we were meant to live with the earth not against it as conquerers as you seem to imply.... to reiterate there are solutions that dont require sacrifice its just a matter of perspective

Crafty

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Anyone who thinks we can alter the course of mother nature must be a really dumb sheltered person.

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:03 pm Click here to edit this post
hey crafty watch this..... anyone who thinks that 7 billion people on the planet 13 people per kilometer doesn't affect "mother nature" must be blissfully ignorant... see how that's kind of a silly argument... unless your stance is nature will be fine and adapt and its just a matter if we will

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
come back when you have more profound condescending wisdom

Antonio Cameron

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:15 pm Click here to edit this post
http://applicants.mars-one.com/
it is legitament (Ik I spelled that wrong) site my science teacher showed me. It will take millions to begin colonizing a planet and even more to finish. As the ability to go to another planet opens up the population on Earth will dwindle and that of others will rise (when they are colonize-able) 30 years is a long time, and if our population doubles every thirty years then why are we stagnant in the 7 billions right now?

In 1900, the world's population was 1.65 billion
In 2008, the world population is 6.64 billion.
that's a 4.01 billion rise in 108 years

Crafty

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Dick head, the cosmos (mother nature) was here long before us and will be long after us. Our existance is a nanosecond of a comparative 24hr day in time.

Try as we may, do you see us beating tornadoes in the midwest US? Do you see us laughing off tsunamis?

Again, fight mother nature and there is only one winner, ever.

So, are you a dumb sheltered person? are you? huh?

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:42 pm Click here to edit this post
so as I said your argument may be... we may very well destroy ourselves but nature will always be here... this is true but the goal we are trying to accomplish is humans still being alive.... and this also means we are talking about earth not the whole universe so your point is kind of irrelevant

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:45 pm Click here to edit this post
"without gorilla will man survive? without man will gorilla survive? " we need nature... nature does not need us.... why are we trying to conquer nature? thanks for your point crafty

Alexander Bella

Monday, June 3, 2013 - 11:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I do not see your point regarding the 4 billion increase in 104 years ...google an image of a graph of earths population ... maybe look up the definition of exponential ... population growth is not stagnant... it takes millions of what to begin colonizing a planet?... again the idea that we can keep expanding into the universe offsetting population growth is wrong its physically and mathematically impossible... and sure lets colonize a whole galaxy to sustain 30 more years of population growth... that doesn't sound bogus to you??

Antonio Cameron

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
AH yea with out gorilla's we would, and without us Gorillas would. we won't colonize the entire galaxy that is impossible due to not being able to go on gas giants. There are videos on the world preparing for the colonization effort.

And millions of people. it will take millions of people.


and the 4 billion increase in 104 year thing was because you said that the world population doubles every 30 years.
30 fits into 100 3 times.
1.65 x 2 = 3.3
3.3 x 2 = 6.6
6.6 x 2 = 13.2

if what you say about the world population doubling every thirty years is true then by 1990 the world population would have been 13.2 billion, and by 2020 the world population would be 26.4 billion. Current world population is 7089463000 and rising. 7089463000 x 2 = 14178926000, so with what you say in 30 years our population will be 14 billion. What you say about our population does not add up mathematically as the population has only risen just over 6 billion in 100 years.

Alexander Bella

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
the last doubling of population from 3 to 6 billion took 35 years... that is my basis.... population up until recently (35 years) has been relatively stable but since agricultural advancements like the green revolution it has been shown that population growth doubles every 35 years and the rates keep going up..... i could say ohh population is stable look from 2 million BC to 7000 BC population remained about the same but that would just be inane no?..... and i still dont see the point your trying to make... the costs to send a single robot to mars is prohibitive let alone sending millions of people... the energy requirements would be fantastic maybe you should do some research and let us know how much.... they cancelled the shuttle program for a reason

The Mysterion

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 03:46 am Click here to edit this post
goto the site I posted and read your self.

Alexander Bella

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 04:32 am Click here to edit this post
wow impressive a website that's selling some fancy merchandise ill be surprised if they send 10 people to Mars let alone millions let alone terraforming the planet.... maybe you should not be so naieve

Alexander Bella

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 04:37 am Click here to edit this post
look half their topics are about money..... merchandise donations and sponsors ... the rest is a vague mission goal that an eighth grader could write... nonsense try looking at the math and logic if we are going to send people to Mars it will be through NASA done by highly trained engineers and astronauts not some silly website.. and as far as NASA is concerned they aren't sending people into space for awhile... not that any of this is relevant

Scarlet

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 07:15 am Click here to edit this post
Crafty, the alternative to fighting nature is dying without a fight... I'm not sure what your point is. I'm pretty sure most people are happy with the longer life expectancy and greater standard of living compared to pre-industrial civilizations.

The Mysterion

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - 11:34 pm Click here to edit this post
http://www.youtube.com/user/MarsOneProject
Search up Mars One, you'll find more then a single little website.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One

Alexander Bella

Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post
scarlet maybe you should do some research on pre agrarian societies let me know if you find something interesting

Alexander Bella

Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post
you keep going back to this website... but try answering some of my questions ... youtube and wikipedia are not reliable sources

nix001

Tuesday, October 7, 2014 - 09:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry. I posted my last comment and have not been back on desirless since.
Alexander Bella I gotta say you have a very good way of getting your point across....And T-Mac :)

It was good to see you spelling out what most people think Scarlet. It kinda proves the point that most people have lost the reason of living.

Crafty as usual was being a antagonising waste of words.......come crafty if you still about....call me a dickhead you fool!

Antonio. population is one aspect. The UN stated in 1997 I think it was that if we continue living the way we are today then 80% of the population must go. If we all live without want and desire for material things then all can stay. And thats not including all the illegal activities that are going on like dumping waste, illegal logging and poaching etc etc

NATURES WRATH

Friday, January 23, 2015 - 08:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Right....I want those who deny that man/woman is ~uckin~ up our futures Environment...

NATURES WRATH

Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 12:11 am Click here to edit this post
Mmmm...I wonder if the Capitalists (In all area's of life, not just here) that spoke out and opposed the idea that the consequences of their actions (in the name of profit) is compromising the Environment and Natural balance of their children's planet and whom still believe their Capitalistic actions of take and exploit is irrelevant in the grand scale of things have realised that if they don't openly oppose it no-one will question them?

The Forces of Nature are struggling to sort the wheat from the chaff :(

Johanas Bilderberg

Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 03:43 am Click here to edit this post
Six years and still going.

Lola

Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 08:33 pm Click here to edit this post
It's not about the Money; It's ALL about the Money.

President of Montana

Thursday, April 23, 2015 - 02:07 am Click here to edit this post
Money talks nowadays.

Old thread is old.

I'm T.Wo, BTW.

NATURES WRATH

Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - 12:16 am Click here to edit this post
I've made this.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT6bdDEOHOQ

Wot y'all tink?

Peace&Hardcore.....Mother Nature Cryz.....Nix001.....MNA

Zentrino

Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - 05:22 am Click here to edit this post
If this keeps going, this thread may still be here in 50 years for us to consider...

Nix001

Friday, April 26, 2019 - 01:23 pm Click here to edit this post
(AKA Natures Wrath)...Ouch. Over the past week I was crusading for Mother Nature in the real world and didn't renew my 11 year old account. All countries, stats and enterprises gone. From 40,000 GC account value to now 18,000 GC value in sim currency.
But like a Phoenix, I will rise again.
'Phoenix Returns' coming to your loans page soon.
Peace&Hardcore.........Nix001.....MNA

Anthonyzappulla

Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 07:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Wow just noticed this thread, just to share my opinion. Global warming is true but I feel its has to do with a cycle rather then what we are doing. I'm sure dinosaurs didnt cause ice age.

Nix001

Monday, April 29, 2019 - 05:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi Anthonyzappulla. This is the problem. There are many things humans are doing that will destroy Mother Nature. Destruction of bio-diversity. Destruction of soil (Soil traps more CO2 than trees). Pollution of sea, land and air. And the contribution of CO2 to the planet which is creating Global warming in some areas and Global cooling in others. I agree about the suns cycles of grand minimums and grand maximums having a direct influence of Earth. Infact we seem to be going into a grand minimum??? Which should be cooling our Earth down??? But with our CO2 release and chem spraying in the atmosphere, we seem to be warming the planet.
What caused the ice age seems to be an asteroid hit? Also volcanoes activity can also cause global cooling.
Mother Nature is dying and the web of life collapsing due to human activity across the board. Not just our CO2 release friend.

King Sancho

Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
not to mention the melting permafrost that will release more greenhouse gases and make this spiral out of control. Thermohaline ocean circulation will be disrupted by melting greenlandic ice which will cause Europe to have winters many times harsher than they experience right now, and in turn screw up weather patterns worldwide. I don't think people under stand the unimaginable interconnection there is with weather. global heating or cooling affects literally every part of life. mark my words the world will be thinking in 30+ years, "why didn't we do anything???". even if tomorrow we magically stopped all emissions from every single source around the world (which will never happen), the temps will continue to rise for the next few hundred years, which means all our coastlines will be dramatically shifted. I think the human race will survive but at a huge cost. the world will never be the same let me tell you. we are living in the last days of what we consider normal. we will call this era we are living in "before change" or something of the sort in the future. it bothers me when people think that we aren't affecting anything. then again we have what's coming for us.

Anthonyzappulla

Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - 11:25 pm Click here to edit this post
I understand, but many seem to believe in 2032 or something a meteor is hitting earth. So guess none of it matters anyway

Nix001

Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - 02:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Well said King. Our children and grandchildren will hate us for our lack of Guardianship of their future. The UN stated about 15 years ago that if we want to keep our standard of living, about 3/4 of the worlds population has to be eliminated. But if we all revert back to being peasant farmers, 3/4 of the worlds population does not have to be eliminated. I do not see our masters sacrificing their standard of living....So.....I guess they will purge the world of us gentiles.

Anthonyzappulla. Don't let the uncontrollable dictate what is controllable. Our children wont hate us if an meteor destroyed their natural world. But they will hate us if it is our actions that destroy their natural world.

Anthonyzappulla

Thursday, May 2, 2019 - 03:23 am Click here to edit this post
Yup, I do my part. The go green objective has rubbed off on me for sure.

Anthonyzappulla

Thursday, May 2, 2019 - 03:24 am Click here to edit this post
I even drive a hybrid:) true story

Nix001

Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post
A new wind has filled my sails :) For 25 years I have sailed into the head winds of the #climate change and #environmental destruction deniers. My #crusade was one of fighting those deniers and bringing awareness to those sitting on the fence. But for the last couple of years I have witnessed the defeat of the deniers. Leaving me with no purpose and no wind in my sails.
Until today. Today my new crusade will be to bring awarness to people that making the sacrifices needed to ensure our future generations have a functioning planet to live on, does not mean reducing their ability to live or to feel alive.
Infact, in my experience, sacrificing for a worthy cause makes me feel 100 times more worthy of life than just living life for what I want.
During my crusade I had to become become what I preached. To be #Desireless.
So...As a single man...Over 15 years I have positioned myself to become a peasant farmer (As requested by the #UN).
I'm able to grow my own food. I've accepted buying secondhand when I need something. I do not have holidays abroad. I do not need/have a car. I've reduced my income and expenditure to £30 a day (including rent and bills). I only use 20p-40p electric/gas a day and I recycle and re-use any waste I can.
For sure I still need to totally give up meat and focus more on using the shops that re-fill my containers so to cut down on packaging. ~One shakes ones head in disbelief at how hard I'm finding it to give up meat~.
Now the World is out of denial....#Humanity has no excuse not to act.
#Nix001 #MotherNatureCryz #MotherNatures300 #Alpha

The_Wicked_Lady

Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 08:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey Nixers! I am quite impressed by your efforts. I think so many of us don't really think about our planet and what we do with it. Thanks for bringing awareness to us that one can take steps to preserve the environment. It is so amazing that once, streams and waterways were so clean, you could drink from them. You could eat snow. Not today! No wonder there are so many cases of disease/cancers, etc. There is no telling what is in our water and food that we buy!

Shave1

Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 09:27 pm Click here to edit this post
climate change? um weren't we all supposed to be under water by 2000, not to mention double drowned by like 2006, then wiped out by the lizard people from the passing planet Nibiru or planet X or whatever it is in 2012? lol sorry couldn't resist. :) eat your heart out Al Gore, course now we got the more eccentric young A.O.C from new york. who informs us we shall all be dead again in 12 years lol after all, the scientists told her so. lol yea ok , we will listen to her. right lol she says all of this while sipping wine in her kitchen trying to acquire information on facebook live as to what the bloody noise making hole in her sink is. yes, it seems our esteemed colleague congressional rep from new york was suddenly spooked by her garbage disposal, and felt the need to reach out to the general public to ascertain what this thing was that devoured anything that fell into it. ROFL! sorry, makes that kind of thing hard to buy into, not to mention the whole , we gonna eliminate all cows, planes and automobiles of any kind. :)

jc2009x

Thursday, June 13, 2019 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post
It's all Russia Fault! Or something like that....

Nix001

Thursday, June 13, 2019 - 03:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave1......Hmmmm? You do understand that those were extreme predictions to kick people like you into action before its too late? In a non-statistical sense, the term "prediction" is often used to refer to an informed guess or opinion. To base your statement on predictions to make a case that because they didn't happen they will never happen is very simple minded.
I suppose your the kind of person that until it happens you can't believe it will. The destruction of our childrens future is something, as guardian's, we should ensure never even comes close to happening. Unfortunately its people like you who wont do anything about it until it happens which will be the cause of it happening. And then all you will say is....Oh well...Its too late to do anything about it now.

Hi Jan sis :) It is soo sad that the freedoms we had as children, we as adults are taking away from the next generations of children. And whats worse and makes me feel soo angry is us adults teaching the children in school that its their responsibility to make the changes to save their planet, while at the same time we adults continue to do that things that are destroying their planet. And we wonder why the children have no respect for adults anymore. X

LOL jc2009x :)

The_Wicked_Lady

Thursday, June 13, 2019 - 10:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey Nixers! Hopefully educating people will help preserve what we still have. :-D

Shave1

Saturday, June 15, 2019 - 07:38 pm Click here to edit this post
nix , im not saying that there is absolutely nothing to climate change at all, or that there is no responsibility to do what is reasonably possible to take care of the planet God has entrusted to us. Im just saying that people are so wore out on the nut jobs that insist on doing away with all of the things we utilize on a daily basis to live a half way normal existence. not to mention that what they propose is in itself completely unsustainable. or bonkers at best. truthfully nix, the cause would be a lot more credible if folks would stop acting like bizarre wackos, and present some ideas that make sense and dont involve the complete dismantling of the human race. that is why no one pays attention to it. guys like Al Gore, Bernie Sanders, and AOC who have an obvious stake politically and financially have become your poster children for the cause, and it has no real credibility. :)

John Galt

Saturday, June 15, 2019 - 08:02 pm Click here to edit this post
I think man made climate change is a ruse designed to get us to willingly accept more taxation and control in our lives. If climate change is happening, I would say it is more due to natural variation than anything we puny humans can do to the earth.

If man made climate change were real, the powers that be would actually do something to fix it. The fact that the elites do not give a damn, as evidence by their absurd levels of consumption, is a sign to me that it is all bogus. Al Gores household consumed 20 times the electricity of the average American household. He does not seem concerned so why should I? If it is real, let the elites fix it. I am not sacrificing my standard of living for this crap if they will not.

Carbon taxation is a regressive tax, which means the poor are burdened by it more than the rich. Taxing carbon is also idiotic. The only solution to clean energy is the free market. When something comes around that is cheaper and more efficient than fossil fuels, the market will force people to switch in order to maximize profit. Destroying our economies with carbon tax will hinder our ability to develop the next form of energy. Without fossil fuels we go back to the Stone Age. Lets get real people. Dont be sheep.

Zentrino

Saturday, June 15, 2019 - 11:54 pm Click here to edit this post
This has to be the oldest still-active thread in all of internet forums. Over a decade and still going...Has anyone read it all?

Nix001

Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 12:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Unfortunately Jan I can see only one way to preserve what we still have....And that's the war that's wrote about in the Holy books. The coming war between the descendants of the sons of Abraham, Ishmael (Islam)and Isaac (Christianity and Judaism) will be the only thing to curb humanities desire to consume all it wants.

Shave1. You wrote 'and present some ideas that make sense and dont involve the complete dismantling of the human race'. Are you aware of the UN sustainability meeting between all heads of countries that was held about 15 years ago? The UN concluded that if we all want to live on this planet we all have to become peasant farmers. But if we want to continue in our standard of life that we live today....I think it was 2/3rds of the humanities population has to be eradicated. Do we see humanity reverting to becoming peasant farmers? So how does eradicating 2/3rds of humanity grab you Shave1 lol

John Galt. The problem with our masters are they are distracted with their 2000 year crusade for Jerusalem. Until they have got what Abraham said they should have (control over humanity and the Holy land) they will not turn their attention to fixing what they have destroyed getting where they are today....To the gates of Jerusalem. To the rest of your comment I hope I answered in my reply to Shave1.

Hi Zentrino :)

War&Hardcore......Nix001.....MNA......http://www.mothernature.cloud/ (Cut and paste to visit my website)

John Galt

Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 03:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Nix it is absolutely insane to think that the only two options is genocide or to become peasant farmers. This is why no one takes leftists seriously. There is a third option you know, one that has always allowed humanity to overcome challenges. It is called technology. The only way to advance technology is to keep pushing forward, not going backward. I thought leftists called themselves progressives these days, but they sure advocate a lot of regressive stuff. Humanity will reach out into the stars and colonize other worlds one day. That is the future I want to see, not some feudalist subsistence farming nightmare world you seem to want to live in. If you feel so strongly about it you should cut off your electricity and running water and lead by example. While you are doing that I am going to continue living and working in the real world.

Shave1

Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 08:45 pm Click here to edit this post
hey Nix, first off I wouldn't put too much stock in anything the U.N says or comes up with. lol there is definitely an agenda there and it aint saving the earth. a lot of nievity ( sorry bout the spelling lol ) in that statement.

Nix001

Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 03:21 pm Click here to edit this post
John Galt. I was quoting the United Nations. You talk like humanity has not been warned for 200 years at minimum about our impact on the natural world. You talk like we have not just been warned again that humanity has 10 years to stop the consumption and destruction of the natural world. Humanity has had the technology to save the natural world for decades if not centuries. But what did those who rule humanity do? Shelve this technology because implementing it would hurt their profit margins.
What faith have you got that our masters will put the rest of us over their fulfilling of their own existence? All I see is them wanting 2/3rds of us to be gone and the rest of us peasant farmers so they can continue as normal.

As to what I do.....I use maybe 20p worth of gas and electric a day. I grow my own food. I have brought my income and expenditure down to £30 a day. I buy second hand. I do not drive a car. I am a gardener and tree surgeon. I turn my tap off when I have wetted my tooth brush. I only flush the toilet when its been used for a shite or it starts to smell. I do not use airplanes. I am trying to give up meat. I recycle or re-use all my waste I can. I still have lots more I can do.

Hi Shave1. It would be naïve if I didn't see it happening lol :(

I'm surprised no-one picked up on the elephants in the room....The 2000 year Abrahamic Zionist agenda to control the world through commerce, banking, media, politics and religion. Without that steering humanity, none of this destruction would be happening. For Humanity would still understand its place in reality.

John Galt

Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 04:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Again I reiterate. The free market will overcome every challenge facing humanity, or we go extinct. Every generation has its share of luddites. We either advance technologically and move to the stars, or we die as a species. Going back in time is not an option, and thankfully people suggesting that are a fringe group that no one really cares about. You can keep restricting your life, just know that it is accomplishing nothing, and you are decreasing your own standard of living for zero benefit. The free market will provide. If we truly have the technology to live green, as you suggest, and it is actually being shelved by the powers that be, it is happening because of cronyism. You don't solve cronyism by giving the government more power, it actually makes cronyism worse. Laissez-faire capitalism is the only way.

The_Wicked_Lady

Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 11:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I was so impressed by Nix's conservative measures:

"As to what I do.....I use maybe 20p worth of gas and electric a day. I grow my own food. I have brought my income and expenditure down to ã30 a day. I buy second hand. I do not drive a car. I am a gardener and tree surgeon. I turn my tap off when I have wetted my tooth brush. I only flush the toilet when its been used for a shite or it starts to smell. I do not use airplanes. I am trying to give up meat. I recycle or re-use all my waste I can. I still have lots more I can do."

You know, we Americans waste so much it isn't funny. I am even guilty of some things. So often I buy food, and it is never eaten. To think there are countries where people are starving. As I've gotten older, I have become more mindful of things. We could all do well like Nix.

Is this why the Brits call Americans, Fat Cats?

Sancho

Friday, June 21, 2019 - 02:53 am Click here to edit this post
John Gault,

of course extremes on any side and for any argument are unappealing. And of course the "elites" don't give a crap and use all the resources and energy they want, they are used to lifestyles that is beyond that of the common man, that doesn't imply a conspiracy. I agree with Nix to a certain extent, that we need to change our way of life completely, that doesn't mean starving yourself and wearing rags in the dark, but doing some of the things he mentioned. reducing meat consumption (its heavily processed and full of antibiotics anyways so no use arguing its vital for our health), recycling, not buying fast fashion etc. it really bothers me that in America at least, virtually ALL conservatives deny climate change or under estimate its effects just because the left talks about it (not arguing they do something 100% of the time either). Why dont we all agree that 7.5 BILLION people using constantly using resources does in fact have an impact in the world. I dont think you really get that number... 7.5 billion is a helluva lot of anything. so we are not "puny" like you said after all. this isn't just for us, but for your kids and grandkids. we can move forward technologically AND change out lifestyles at the same time, not one or the other.

Sancho

Friday, June 21, 2019 - 02:58 am Click here to edit this post
and of course, my message is meant with respect. I just want people to open up more and realize that we all need to change. I think Nix, even though he is one man, is making a difference not only by living the way he does, but by influencing others to change or at the ver least think. change happens one person at a time.

John Galt

Friday, June 21, 2019 - 01:21 pm Click here to edit this post
If people want to make changes to their lifestyles they are free to do that. I am against government coercion to force changes. Things like carbon tax, banning products, banning technology, etc... The government has enough control and power over our lives. They don't need more. I just fundamentally disagree with you as to what the solution is to the problem of climate change, if it is even man made. If fossil fuels truly are the problem, and the only solution is to completely eliminate their use, well then there are only 2 possible ways to achieve that. We either ban fossil fuels completely and go back to the Stone Age, or we allow the free market to work and thrive and develop the next form of energy that is not only clean, but more importantly competitive in the market place. We are not there yet. We will be there one day. I just don't believe that taxing things and banning things will get us to that goal. I believe it will make that goal more difficult to achieve, and that is why I am against it. I am a strong believer in the free market because it is the only thing that has ever managed to bring large numbers of people out of poverty. You know what doesn't help bring people out of poverty? Government control.

The_Wicked_Lady

Friday, June 21, 2019 - 03:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Ugh to government control! I am baffled at the people in America. Don't they realize that our democratic party's entire intention is to take control away from the people? Now you know why so much crap goes on against our President Donald Trump. He doesn't swallow this ideology, thus makes a lot of political figures mad. It is funny though...

I never realized how spot on Simcountry has been as compared to real life politics. I get it.....just from having played this game!

Sorry, this is a bit off-topic.

But, on topic... I think change in all aspects of life starts with the people. We have to make the changes. It is refreshing to know that someone as Nix, who stands behind his point, practices what he says. Kudos, Nix!

The_Wicked_Lady

Friday, June 21, 2019 - 03:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh another thing...

Has anyone taken the time to read this entire thread? lol A few wars erupted in game back in the day over this topic! lol Nix, I remember the days when you called Bobo, "BooBoo". ha ha ha This is when I first came on the scene as KissOfDeath, Bobo's sister. Wow, I can't believe that was 10 years ago!!!!!

Shave1

Monday, June 24, 2019 - 08:34 pm Click here to edit this post
:) well said.

The_Wicked_Lady

Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 04:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave,

I just smile when I see that cute emoti with the razor. lol

ROBERT E LEE

Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 07:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Well said wicked lady the democrat party want control and to hold control

Letsie

Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 09:15 pm Click here to edit this post
And how is that different from the republican party? All parties want control and to hold on to it.

The_Wicked_Lady

Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 10:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Dear Letsie,

You are correct to a certain degree. What I am referring to is not party control, but controlling people. There are even some republicans who are under the one-world order movement and big government. I don't support this ideology and think it will lead to disaster. People will lose their rights to everything. Why do you think there is so much opposition to gun control? Once the government takes your guns away, you have no way to protect yourself against them even...â¦.another means to be reliant on the government to take care of you. Nah, I prefer to keep my gun and protect my family and my property as first line of defense...then the government police can assist! ;-D

Maybe it is the Tennessean hillbilly in me! :-D

Johanas Bilderberg

Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
I forgot I went ham on Nix.

Sorry old chap.

The_Wicked_Lady

Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 03:42 pm Click here to edit this post
lol Johanas. I've gone back and have read some of my past rants and such and was like...OMG, was that ME?!!! ha ha ha I sounded like an idiot. ha ha ha

I blasted Nix too, but just in defense of Bobo or "BooBoo" as Nix called him. lol

Nix knows I love him! I love everyone!

Johanas Bilderberg

Friday, June 28, 2019 - 12:17 am Click here to edit this post
Well I went to KB and took his empire.

Can't really do that anymore. I like Nix also, reason I apologized.

The_Wicked_Lady

Friday, June 28, 2019 - 03:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah...â¦. I hear ya!

I really need to get my beloved Andy to fix where those goobley gobley symbols appear when you type more than three dots... I like my dots, now! lol

Nix001

Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 02:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Johana da Rancha....Bro....Fake News LOL. You, Sam, Crafty aided by Laguna tried to take my empire. In the end I had surrounded Crafties countries and had started my attack when he claimed that due to preparation for the Olympics, the council had dug up his road and he only had intermittent internet connection. So I stopped my attack out of fair play :) You, Sam and Laguna were no where to be seen. Probably due to you getting bored trying to defeat the strategy I had adopted from the Queen of Battle....FULL METAL C3 warfare :)
I like you too Bro :)
LOL The Wicked Lady :) I still have one of your high heals lodged in the wall behind me :) Love you too sis x :)

The_Wicked_Lady

Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 03:15 pm Click here to edit this post
lol If Andy doesn't buy his mom a new pair of shoes soon, I might have to go around and collect some of my old shoes!!! Hold on to that one for me, Nixxers. Muah! Love you too! :-D

Shave1

Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 07:12 pm Click here to edit this post
sorry been busy. but yea, i agree with the wicked, both sides of the isle has got control freaks. just tend to lean more toward the right now days, and I love what Trump is doing for the country, and if nothing else you have to atleast like the fact that he is upsetting the status quote. :)

The_Wicked_Lady

Friday, July 12, 2019 - 12:29 am Click here to edit this post
*Smiles at my good buddy, Shave. :-D


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