Simcountry: Forum

Inanna

All worlds

08 Oct 2009 21:12Link

What are some ideas you have as far as the Player community improving the simcountry gaming experience for newer players and veteran players within the bounds of the game and abilities we have available to us atm?

I'm just curious.

Parsifal

All worlds

08 Oct 2009 22:15Link

it would be better if new players could build an empire and see positive results from their efforts rather than either having to build an empire with their plastic or sit and watch grass grow. i don't know what it's like on other worlds but kb is dead, dead ,dead.

Solomon Grundy (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

08 Oct 2009 23:20Link

All of my ideas for what can be done at the moment with what's available to us are being reserved for the Fearless Blue Marine Corps.

Love to share them with you... but you're just a civilian! lol

HOORAH!!!

Inanna (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

08 Oct 2009 23:43Link

LoL Solomon

Solomon Grundy (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 11:15Link

Everything I am coming up with is a game modification requiring GM intervention.

I've seen online games with built in 'niceness' incentives. In SC it would be things like a top 100's for: Friendliest Country, Most Aggressive Country, Fastest Growth, Most aid/Most helpful, Most revered, Most Hated... etc.

Hey, in the past, it's had me offering disaster relief for no other reason than climbing in the ranks in that ranking system.

Maybe there should be a Friends/Enemies list for our countries and then certain things on the list are scored for the community to compete.

I have seen the concept work.

I imagine a system where there are multiple ranking boards, one for presidents and one for countries one for the military etc.

SirSmokesAlot (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 11:19Link

Try to offer advice to new people. I know its hard to take the time in chat and deal with all the questions. But how are they going to learn the game enough to see that its fun to play. Telling them to go read those outdated game docs will only make them just wanna give up. Also accepting new players into feds can help. It will give them a chance to ask thier fed members for advice. Show them the social side of the game. Help them expand thier empires so that they can grow to become better players.

Joe3811 (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 15:54Link

It seems to me there's a thousand "glitches" in the game, and experienced player have developed "work arounds" that are usually more laborious than a well developed game should be. I think we should encourage W3C to work on these problems, rather than things such a space stations.

8Caps8 (White Giant)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 17:45Link

Here's an incentive for ya: charge less money.

Man of Peace (White Giant)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 21:25Link

Easy now.

Don't talk bad about the GM on Wendys thread or you'll "get a nuke shoved up your arses".

Honestly other than helping new players. Which I have and continue to do from time to time. Without the GM at least tweaking, or god forbid finishing some existing features. I don't really see any way for the players to make this game any better.

We can make suggestions and polls but honestly. Even if they do get accepted it will be years until they are implemented.

Not casting any blame.

Just saying.

Alexandria Hollander (Kebir Blue)

All worlds

09 Oct 2009 22:26Link

I'd love to see some actual Diplomacy Options, as well as more ways to interact with other nations besides just trade and messages. I'd like to see the UN with some teeth. Along with "Peacekeeping forces" that could be Utilized. I'd like an honor system that ranks if a player is Honorable or Less than Honorable. Sadly, the GMs are eternally behind, only partially implement things that haven't been properly tested in a sandbox before being let loose in the live system, so I'd say, get it right first, and then work on "improvements".

Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

All worlds

10 Oct 2009 00:17Link

Wendy very specifically asked about what "the Player community" can do, not the GMs.

I think it's about respect. I accord it to vets and newbs alike (until someone proves they are not worthy) and everything that goes with it such as advice, courtesy and friendliness. My hope is that, as a result, everyone else enjoys playing the game as much as I do.

But we have to remember that this is a power and status game. It's not surprising that it also attracts people who do the opposite, who stomp on, ridicule and disrespect others to make themselves feel bigger. That sort of behaviour is what spoils the game IMHO ... for newbs at least.

Other than respect, can other players improve the game for vets? Occasionally a negative n00b turns up and decides to throw a nuke or two at me, or attacks me with his 10 Precision Bombers. That improves the game for me briefly

Inanna (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

10 Oct 2009 05:53Link

I like how we all have tunnel vision when it comes to the GM.

I guess if you feel this powerless to do anything of your own accord, you may as well quit.

Should we ask them to log in and manage our empires during inactivity as well. How about paying for next year while we are at it.

All these ideas for the GM to consider seem good, and I am sure we can do better. But seriously, the question was what can players do.

There is much helping, and credit goes out to those who do help. There is however only a tight few who help publicly and don't save it for feds or CMs.

I think Solomon touched on something useful. Awhile back there were a few players who did alot of stat tracking apart from what the game provided. It was fun, and will be missed. Alot of people still ask for those stats to come out.

For those who managed to stay on topic thx and please I need more ideers.

Aaron Doolavay (White Giant)

All worlds

10 Oct 2009 09:04Link

I think the best way to help new people is to offer advice patiently, bid generously on their coins and if they wish to learn the war engine seek out an inactive and help them take it. The best way to improve this experience is to make it fun, its fun to succeed so help a new person succeed in whatever they are trying for. I do miss the stats too, its been forever since i have been listed in them but hopefully someday I'll be up there again.

Man of Peace (White Giant)

All worlds

10 Oct 2009 12:09Link

Yeah stats rule!!!

If I knew how. I would do them on a monthly basis.

Andrew De Forest (White Giant)

All worlds

11 Oct 2009 05:08Link

I would like to see a crime feature added in to the game, and then having to deal with it, such as building enough jails to house criminals.

Inanna (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

11 Oct 2009 06:19Link

I was once known as Crime. It wasn't the brightest point of SC history LOL

Parsifal (Kebir Blue)

All worlds

12 Oct 2009 03:42Link

yes, rehabilitation does work. lol. Wendy, you're a real pleasure particularly since Ameche left. i dont know what the two of you had going, but you're a different person.congrats.

Plato (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

12 Oct 2009 03:49Link

I always send a message to new players in the neighborhood and tell them how to get me on MSN. If they are friendly and willing to learn I coach them through taking a C3.

I feel that helping them be successful at the war game gets them hooked.

Inanna (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

12 Oct 2009 05:36Link

Thanks Parsifal, I really miss Ameche, there is a comedic value no longer present in the game. I don't miss the most colorful of his posts. But it kind of made who he was. It was never anything too serious. I am not happy that he quit for good. I'm just glad he credited the game and not me for his departure.

I try to keep a better attitude towards players and games. Despite what you all may think, I learned a ton from those experiences. I find the game quite boring without an arch rival. LoL\

I'm sure he is around still but less of a meanie. At least that is what I hear.

Solomon Grundy (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

14 Oct 2009 22:37Link

Ok... what we can do ourselves...

3rd party websites, AKA fansites.

Now what to do with the 3rd party website? It's termed 3rd party obviously because it's not sponsored by Simcountry.

We could create our own United Nations and seat a General Assembly. Vote our own Security Council or do it by ranking. Everyone would be allowed a seat in the General Assembly. Create our own documentation and show the Tomster how it's done.

We can do these things if we can work together apart from federation teaming.

A player initiative? hmm

BorderC (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

14 Oct 2009 23:09Link

Can we call it the NLUO?

Inanna (Little Upsilon)

All worlds

14 Oct 2009 23:16Link

Now that is an OUSTANDING idea Bc.

Thx for this suggestion Solomon.

Man of Peace (White Giant)

All worlds

15 Oct 2009 01:53Link

Great idea sol!!!

Solomon Grundy (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

15 Oct 2009 10:50Link

LOL BC... where is King Hezy these days anyway?

Solomon Grundy (Fearless Blue)

All worlds

16 Oct 2009 12:01Link

Ok... so who's the website designer among us?

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