Open Letter to SimCountry.... (Golden Rainbow)

Forgive me LG but I have to address this issue.

I ask you all. What would you do with only the economic side of this game? What if, there were no war at all. Would you stay or leave?

I'm about to do something that I have never tried to before. Everyone knows I have a valid yet controversial C3 style of fighting. This has been criticized heavily by my opponents. Unfortunately it is highly effective.

On only one occasion have I ever used this style of fighting against a real player other than Aqua Rainbow. It was quite effective though much of it was weapon tests, he did somehow become active as I got WI down close to zero. I figured I could win, but he didn't fight back until I nuked him several times on LU. I have seen countries get destroyed by groups of players in minutes. Can I be blamed for using such a style? MyLogicIsUndeniable am I right?

Some say that I am being destructive to the game. But the fact is t

Wow Wendy...quite a novel you had there ;) I think what you are touching on is an issue that EO and I have debated previously, just how much war protection should one be allowed. Although I don't like the c3 style of fighting it is indeed completely within the rules of the game and allows players to taunt and terrorize other much larger empires without risking anything of value, so if you don't mind spending the time it is a method that will ultimately burn your opponent to the breaking point.

I'll make the same point here that I made during my conversation with EO, if you are acting aggressively towards other players you should not be allowed to maintain war protection over the valuable countries in your empire. EO had some great points during our conversation which I can't remember now as I'm quite burnt out, but I still think that wp should be limited in some way, perhaps a max of 3 rl months total per year? And in

I think we may have come to the point where war protection should drop for all slaves of player who has not chosen the economic side of the game. It is kind of whacky to be able to declare war with certain parts of an empire while having other countries sidelined during the war.

I'm glad the Jozi chat is coming up, I encourage everyone to show up. This will be a rare opportunity to discuss things otherwise unmentionable. War and econ side of the game should certainly be among them.

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Don't quit Wendy

WhiteBoy. Does taking countries, militarizing them and using them in war not also happen in real life?
I do like the idea of econ/war status though, for there is always more than one way to skin a cat that gets out of line.

I raise my glass to you Wendy. I know how much commitment it takes to mobilize a C3 fighting force. I guess it's like driving a F1 car (Indi car). Each lap (Warrior C3) is the same as the last one. Paramount is the focus needed to go through the motions. One mistake can create all kinds of short term problems which in-turn can have devastating effects on the effectiveness of the lap (Warrior C3). Then there's the organization and the implementation of the car (Warrior C3 fighting force).
Hardcore. True NATO Stylie.
Theres nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty if you believe in what your doing.

Nix...not sure that the real life comparison works in your favor. In real life *no one* has war protection and every country can be attacked at any time regardless of whether the president is on vacation or is re-working their garrisons or air defense. In real life your home country would face consequences for acts of war by countries in your empire...this is of course a game so I think there should be some allowances, but your example would actually lead to a stronger stance than I am taking.

WB

I was making the comparison between real life and C3 fighting.

This is stupid. I've tried a few times to write out a little thesis for this thread but it always boils down to the sentiment that "this is stupid." Let me try a bit of free writing instead.

The people who are driven away are the ones who let themselves be. I'm not "blaming the victim," but if you enjoy this game then you will keep playing and meet challenges as they come to you. Lets not forget that at one time there were numerous people who wanted to drive wendy out of the game. It's actually personally pleasing to see Wendy taking the stand she is. I remember how she screamed when Barney took her little C3s when she was in Valde, and now she realizes the pedagogical point behind his action. It's part of the game, and you either learn to play with it or you shouldn't play at all... And yes Wendy, I remember how I screamed too when you started sneak-attacking our corporations.

Learning how to play wit

I've read some pretty sophisticated explanation above for and against WP and peaceful play and driving noob away from the game.

In my time here in Simcountry, I've generally fought wars to defend myself or members of my federation and avoided attacking inactive in my enemies federation.

Since the end of the Aqua War between GREF and UC. I've had a lot of time to rethink my warring activities. Consider the strong deterrent to waging federation wars if the chairman of opposing federation went into a war knowing his enemies will do everything in his power to completely destroy the very federation he has spent much time and devotion to build. Consider, he personally might come out of the war with few scratches and bruises and look around to see he has lost most of his federation.

I am seriouly considering a new war ideology. In real history, the major powers went into a long and protracted Cold War Era. The primary rea

in rl i work long hours sometimes, and theres days i carnt even get time to log on,so hopefully wp will stay.But what if they made it so as soon as a player decs on another player he loses wp, just an idea.

@JohnL

"My advise to those players who wish to stay out of wars totally is to weigh the benefits and obligations of federation affiliation. Most federation admit members fully expecting every members to stand up and defend the federation in case of war. So, Why should a federation chairman lament the loss of a noob in his federation who did nothing to defend the very federations he joined knowingly or unknowingly acccepting an obligation to assist in the defense. "


That's a good way for someone to get picked off by raiders.

Petra,
I agree. Thats is why I suggest that the player who is playing with a war option should carefully weigh the pros and cons of federation membership.

Imagine joining a "peaceful federation" and after joining that federation decides to wage war. At this point the peaceful player again needs to consider the pros and cons of continued membership. The point here is that Simcountry is a proactive game and situations change all the time and players need to realize that they cannot remain stationary in a mobile, changing environment. What was a good decision yesterday is not necessarily a good decision for tomorrow.

Yes I screamed a whole lot. At the time, I had just figured how to make a country profitable, and addedp 3 million pop each to the two c3s Barney took. What happened afterwards, was and still is an sc career shaping event. It went on for months and alot came out of it for me. I got my but kicked alot but, I'll never scream again HAHA

I still don't know if it was a good or bad thing.

What does the people say? Do you prefer IAMWENDY or Inanna?

LG...it's all your fault!!

You did want them to teach me a thing or two.
I think the Choice should have been between

The High Profite$$ ~OR~ Inanna

I like that this thread is finally getting some attention, I'd really like some more opinions from the community on my idea of econ only countries that are severely restricted from declaring war on real players...I'm thinking a minimum of 5 game years before they are allowed to dec on another real player and no war protection for a period at least one real month. Also, if something like what I suggest above was to take effect which would allow players truly only interested in the econ side of the game to maintain their safety, there should clearly be a limitation on the wp abilities of those not classifying themselves as econ only so what should those limitations be?

I know this wasn't the intention of your initial post Wendy, sorry for hijacking your thread a bit.

You mean teach one thing and a half? ;0

No problem WB

First off, Fearless Blue is the war world. If you want to fight all the time, you need to be on FB.
I would like to see a balance of wp on all worlds except for FB. I would like to have some economy only slaves and military slaves. Could we not have secured mode for econ only countries? Lets say if your WI is above a certain number you have no secured mode?(except for your main).
And when in secured mode you cant remove it to dec on another player or C3? You can only dec with your known war slaves.
I would also like to see the blackouts changed to at least 8hrs or 16hrs,(sleep and work hours),And we can set for say a week or 2 if some are on vacation.

'A week or two' blackout periods equates to stautory war protection. You get it for free ... if you don't go on holiday excessively ...

Hugs and respect

Jo

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What an interesting bump :s Memories....

Knew there was a pattern...

i thought wendy was quitting... have to admit i smiled