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Ideas for the Security Councils

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nix001

All worlds
05 Feb 2010 23:30Link
I have an idea.
I think the Security Councils need an armed wing.
Each continant will have its own Security Council Federation (SCF) made up of one slave of a Security Council Member (SCM). They would be the chairman. And one slave from any other President of that continent, who wished to become a member of that continents SCF.

Only one seat per President throughout each World.

All members of the SCF would be required to switch on the war treaty. If found not to have, the SCM would be in their rights to remove such President from the SCF.

Each President would be required to maintain X amount of D-Wings in the air.

Then when the Security Council Members become aware of any SECURITY problems and vote in favour of action, they will have the means to deal with it.
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nix001

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 00:33Link
It would be upto the Security Council Members to maintain the Security Council Federations.
New Security Council Members would take over the Chairmanship of the SCF of the out going SCM.
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Scarlet (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 04:42Link
They have always had the means to deal with it, just not the cohesiveness.

No world government or security council can be effective unless everyone agrees that they want it to be effective. I assume most people would rather pursue their own or their federation interests rather than play world police.

Just like real life.
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Inanna (Little Upsilon)

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06 Feb 2010 04:50Link
Following the a major deal by security council members on GR, world war quickly shadowed that agreement after most everyone signed on.

Unfortunately, this proposal is not very realistic. Even though the UN has a military 'peace keeping force' they would be embarrassingly ineffective at war. And to add to it, the permanent security council seems locked in a cold war of sorts atm.
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Parsifal (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 15:00Link
effective feds that work best are those that have a close relationship with one another. they also have a longevity in those relationships. because of the nature of the security council this probably won't exist. members come and go and have different goals in the game. some council members are even inactive. not to mention that i don't see the role of the sec council to be the policeman of the worlds. so, my vote goes with Wendy and Scarlet--not realistic.
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nix001

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 16:35Link
Hello Scarlet.
What means do the Security Council have? Apart from their own?
Surely its in everyones best interest to have a Security Council that is able to protect everyones assets?

Hi Wendy.
This is the point. The Security Council made a ruling, but unless they were prepared to put up their own assets or Feds to uphold that ruling nothing happened. I dont think it is fair to ask them to sacrifice their own assets for our assets.
But if individual Presidents put up a slave to ensure the Security of the world, the Security Council would have around 200 countries at their disposal.
I'm sure then rulings would be up held.
One reason why the UN is ineffective is due to the responsibility of taking life. This is why they are called a peace keeping force.
Another reason is the Veto.
Another is the USA. The USA wants to be World Police. It will do anything to undermine and weaken the UN.
That would not
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Parsifal (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 20:29Link
but the sec council is made up of different interests. they may not even like each other and have fought one another. the council can't be any more effective than direct negotiations are now. as i see it the only real power of the council is to give aid. sanctions on nukes isn't even very effective.
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Scarlet (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
06 Feb 2010 22:47Link
Suppose your proposal is implemented... how could one guarantee that it would not be used to further their personal and federation interests?

The closest to a world peacekeeping force that could ever realistically occur is a union of players seeking to eliminate a common threat. However, this can always be done without bothering to configure draconian game rules regarding the security council.

I will note that it has happened that a certain federation-dominated security council used the anti-nuke resolution to prevent fair retaliation in a federation war.
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nix001

All worlds
07 Feb 2010 08:35Link
I recon Parsifal answered your question Scarlet about 'how could one guarantee that it would not be used to further their personal and federation interests?'

As Parsifal put it 'they may not even like each other and have fought one another'

That alone should make it impartial.

Plus you added 'However, this can always be done without bothering to configure draconian game rules regarding the security council.'

Why state something without giving the alternative?
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nix001

All worlds
09 Feb 2010 00:42Link
OK Parsifal, what happens when negotiations break down because all one side wants is WAR? WAR. Then wot?
Fine on Fearless Blue. After all, the GM gave us this World to have fun on. On FB anything goes. Hell I could rob someone if I wanted and feel no way about it (maybe? Ok, I might feel some guilt. But thats because I'm soft)

Anyways, on the other Worlds, Wars and actions that should only be tolerated on FB, affect innocent victims in ways that should only be experienced on FB. These innocent victims of GR, WG, KB and LU who have been led to believe that they are safe from the brutality and oppression of Fearless Blue deserve more.

They deserve Security councils that has standing Armys ready to defend these Worlds from those who prefer they ways of FB.
If these Armys were to be made up of individual Presidents on each continent and the Security Council voted for action against a aggressor/s on that continent,
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
10 Feb 2010 15:20Link
Good Idea, If This in on LU, I Aprove it as of my vote on lu since I'm memeber of LU Counsil


From SaintAgustine
Wrighting S.C Book of Life
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nix001

All worlds
11 Feb 2010 00:09Link
Nice one.

I'm thinking that alot might not like this idea out of worry that the Fed they have built up would be no longer needed.

But due to the complexity of implementing a Security Council Resolution to go-to war, the likely hood of war being implemented would only come about if most Security Council Members were in fear of doing nothing. It would have to be a World War or a Band of rebels from Fearless Blue to get any kind of Resolution passed for war.
This would mean Federations for day to day protection of individual assets and friends will always be needed.

What the Security Council Federation would do is give a hope of action to those who only have a voice.

And can you imagine the fun to be had if the SCF were to ever implement war? I recon X that by 1,000

I guess the only problem would be is if a SCF were to decide to invade another world.............But that would need complete trust between