To GMs: Critique of Pure Quality (Little Upsilon)

This is aside from the issues of War Protection. Don't bring it up.

This is probably unorganized as hell, but I'd like to offer this for consideration as these are just my opinions. I don't care if my specific points are ignored so long as the general point is considered: namely, more simplicity and less unnecessary features is better.

Point 1: Economic Game
This is clean, simple, playable. I like it. If you don't know what you're doing, you won't profit. If you somewhat know what you're doing, you can make good profits. If you REALLY know what you're doing, you can make very good profits. This is how things should be. The learning curve should be structured so that if you're somewhat decent you'll do well and if your REALLY good, you'll do better. The distinction here is that the net benefit of increased skill should taper off as skill increases: almost like the graph of a square root functi

Yeah I'd like to talk about more than one person logging into a single account in order to fight.

Not sure if you saw it on the drowned out threads Tom, but in case you didn't.

What needs to be talked about Whiteboy is you logging into EO's account to fight, which is a real deterrence to the war game because people have always known it was happening, but you (WB) saved everyone the trouble of the accusation/proof cycle by admitting to it yourself.

Tom, can we stop this already. EO was involved in this nonsense before that triggered you to announce it being forbidden in the first place. Seems to be far more of a problem than c3s. I know personally Jack Jones has since left the game since they were both logged into EO's account during that war. It has to stop. I'm not even asking for a harsh reaction just another warning, that EO needs to fight from his own account, and WB needs to fight from his accoun

Please... stay on topic. That is a completely different issue that has nothing to do with actual game mechanics. I'm here to discuss game mechanics. I don't want a flame war, especially one that is irrelevant to the point I'm trying to raise.

I'm not flame warring. I just know Tom Barely has time to read the forums, I'd rather him take time and view all pertinent information on one thread. Alternatively Scarlet, you and I could just email him if you really want 'just him' to read it. I have a more important issue anyway Scarlet, settle down and cooperate.

Anyway, I considered e-mailing, but thought the opportunity of having others contribute might lend some credence to my observation.

Alternatively, I also realize that by posting on the forums there is a chance that nothing will be done simply because the GMs don't want to cave into criticism because it could open up a whole mess of: Why did you listen to that guy and not me? Either way, I've decided that I'd rather publicly state my opinion and risk it being ignored by that virtue rather than privately e-mailing and risk it appearing to be simply an individual's demand. If nobody else agrees, I don't have a chance anyway.

Scarlet - Some good points, I think there are many issues with the current quality/fighting level system. However I also do think there should be some reason to have higher quality weapons and I think that in general, it is actually more econ players who focus on quality in their military's because they will take the time to upgrade their defense and quality on the offensive side is pretty unimportant as people are not pre-building their attack wings and LRD's to upgrade them.

W - Shut up, go look at the other thread. You have no legs to stand on and stop flaming people's threads when they're trying to information seek.

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FLAME WAR!!!!!!!!!


OH YEAH come out of War Protection you FAIRY! Yeah your talkin real big from WP little boy. You're soft little boy and you know it. Keep hiding I'll wait til you get out of unversity punk.

I agree Scarlet you have my support. I have made a self suffient empire. I buy 90% + of my goods from my CM and empire less then 10% of the stuff i buy comes from international markets. All my corporations make 296Q i have the cash flow, ability to make more goods but i see little rewards what i do think is if im buying higher Q goods not only should i make higher Q but what about using less?

WhiteBoy I don't need to do any research I saw the whole war I know you like to tell people what they can or cannot think but I have two eyes to see and I report what I saw. You are selfish andself centered enough to think what you have to say is the only thing that matters but Keto was nuked more than 50 times, it is funny how you and your crew have selective memory, nukes are pretty useless if you nuke c3s but I counted as all ketos countries that were unprotected shed more than 10 million population each I would not call that a a useless part of the game. I know what I saw I don't need some big mouth telling me different mind your business I was not talking to you. I didnt really trust the advice given me but I should have wendy was telling me the whole time to take down the air defense first I thought it was impossible waste of time but she did it all by herslef more than 140K interceptors. so it was my fault for not listening. The only tperson

I remember Jonni telling Wendy to keep the forums clean for saying "bitching" which is only decribing an action, but you keep calling her bitch and I have not witnessed a gm or moderator warn you about your language. Are there two sets of rules that apply to everyone else and Whiteboy gets to break them and live by his own? Is he exempt?

Hordo - Try posting in the thread where I actually made the post...this has nothing to do with this thread.

I could have predicted the above... anyway, another reason I posted on the forums is that I thought the title was pretty clever... in a lame, punny way.

Anyway, I trust that the GMs will act in the best interests of promoting the game... even if that doesn't conform precisely to my opinions.

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Scarlet - Some good points, I think there are many issues with the current quality/fighting level system. However I also do think there should be some reason to have higher quality weapons and I think that in general, it is actually more econ players who focus on quality in their military's because they will take the time to upgrade their defense and quality on the offensive side is pretty unimportant as people are not pre-building their attack wings and LRD's to upgrade them.<!-/Quote-!>

If quality did not deteriorate over time OR start at a 50% fighting level

One Woman from another, Wendy ignore that word, I am shocked that no one has corrected the filthy behavior here. Calling a woman a *B* is very nasty and has no place in a make believe game.

Speaking of quality

I'd like to see more quality players join the game.

This game is make believe??????? Now it all makes sense!!! You're all just little voices/writings in my head!!!

I feel much better now.

Shut up! >I'm< the real one!

BORDER C THIS IS THE VOICE OF GOD!!!! GIVE SUPERSOLDIERRCP ALL UR COOKIES AND BY THAT I MEAN GOLD COINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!

In regards to scarlet's topic

In my opinion Q should have an effect on weapons. players should want to get 296Q weapons but they only effect them to a point it should be up to a player to upgrade them with Q upgrades and help them strive to build effective and high Q armies.

I do believe that something should be done for self sufficiency. I know i will never be self sufficient but i have 80state corps in melichor and 60% of the goods they need are traded locally and they all are 296Q, they all make a profit even with the high Q and 80% tax. I would like to see something happen to help the econ players. I really would like to see where corporations use less if they us higher Q goods maybe 10% per 100
370Q in stock - 100 ASQ = 270 move the decimal over one to the left = 27% less materials. Either on