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Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:46 am  I'll post my question again for those of us who were in the middle of this conversation... So, what do you guys think about the term length? I'm thinking 1 year is too short and I'm wondering if 2 years would be too long. I'm leaning more in the direction of 2. If you already commented and you were censored please take the time to post again. I, for one, am interested. Please, watch the language, no smileys outside those offered in [formatting] or unnecessary characters of any kind. I would like to be able to have a functioning conversation.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 02:26 pm i think six months would be good.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 02:43 pm the reason for the shorter time is that: 1. moderators might get old on the job; other interests intervene. 2. players would have more input into moderators actions if the time was shorter. 3. moderators could run again. 4. it would make the players feel more involved in the game. whatever might happen i think the moderators job should be passed around. the moderator has a great deal of power to censor anything they want without cause and to ban a player. it makes for an unhealthy game.
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Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 05:02 pm
LMAO! Here we are Parsifal! lol
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 05:31 pm Hmm... Seems to me that the more the position gets passed around the less coveted it becomes, less desired. 6 months may be long enough though. It seems awful often.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 05:51 pm I happen to think Laguna is fair. Everyone has moments from time to time. It would be hard to replace him with someone more fair or with the same overall quality. I'm not excusing anyone's gripes I'm just saying, if Laguna wasn't moderator, no doubt complaints would be more severe or skyrocket. Voting could be manipulated. We all know there are multi accounts and who is to say how the vote could be fairly implemented? The integrity of the simvote would bring to question the results. If a vote was agreed on, then one year seems fair. For another moderator, Laguna would have to remain as backup. His term of service now is not matched and I doubt many would have the integrity or commitment to do the job for as long as he has. Not barring the last complaint, I think if we vote for a moderator, it should be an interim moderator with the primary purpose of alleviating Laguna of the primary moderator role. He needs a break and has other commitments like everyone else and it would be appropriate to have a checks and balance system. So if we do vote for anther moderator, it wouldn't necessarily remove Laguna from the role, just free him up to do his own things and leave him in place to deal with the more severe cases where moderation is needed. I don't want to see a new moderator voted on, then 5 or 6 months in say "I quit" then we are left with a vacuum, and then w3 would rollback to Laguna their default, and give up on interim moderators. If someone quits, Laguna would still be there. Jonni Gil is a moderator too, I only see him post once every 6 months if we are lucky, do you see what I mean.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:31 pm Solomon Grundy No one cares about your threads or your random old news thread bumps. I happen to think laguna is VERY fair and never has given me cause to dout him. If you don't like the game do what Dubletar did LEAVE AND MAKE UR OWN. I agree with wendy voting can be manipulated by mult's. Which makes me wonder didn't you have a history of being a mult if not i'm sorry and i apologize for the incorrect information.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:34 pm SG--i'll just ride my ass into battle with you. i'm the little guy. PH--maybe the Portugese economy has temporarily addled him, but can he dance. From Don Quixote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zFSp3C6kg
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:41 pm Look over the last year of posts and judge how often a moderator has been needed. I just got back and have been going through posts, I can think of one time I noticed a moderator speak up and he posted "boarderline", you've seen it. They aren't NEEDED all that often, especially since I'm allowed to post videos dropping the F bomb. (yet not discuss changing aspects of the game, and reasons are clear) I am definately not of the 'union' mentality. Lay off the hard worker simply because the slacker has been there for so many years longer. That's to say, because we've been putting up with the slacker for so long that the slacker should be rewarded and keep his job? After a new players green period time in game is next to irrelevant in my book.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:47 pm another vote of confidence for LG i have no doubt for his concern for the game, or the players further, i can never remember the term, but to create a problem and blame it on a political rival... i forget the term stop acting obnoxiously, and maybe you wont feel as if LG abuses his power. or if you still do, maybe more people will listen to you
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:49 pm Hey if you don't support choosing your own moderator that's cool... no reason to get hot under the collar. You read what was censored, you know it doesn't matter if he's the best moderator in the world, keep electing him then, campaign for him. I already know that he could get me to vote for him if he had the right attitude, but that would never happen. I'm only one vote. There's nothing for Laguna to fear if he's all you claim. It's not about Laguna, it's simply a better game if we get to have interactive elections and participate more. Simple as that, this just happened to have given birth to it that's all. I can agree that Laguna should have deleted every post he did and more, and this is still true.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:52 pm Orbiter, I'm going to ask you to demonstrate the "acting obnoxiously", you know that. How
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:53 pm *wishes Solomon had a mute button*
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 06:57 pm 180's since the censor/edit? Wow, I'm glad we have real time readers. No, that's cool, I'll drop it. (So I guess the answer to the thread question will be 'no there won't be' lol)
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:03 pm solomon grundy first, the concept of moderator elections... seems fair, but so far i haven't seen abuse obnoxious, 1. highly objectionable or offensive; odious: obnoxious behavior. 2. annoying or objectionable due to being a showoff or attracting undue attention to oneself: an obnoxious little brat. 3. Archaic. exposed or liable to harm, evil, or anything objectionable. 4. Obsolete. liable to punishment or censure; reprehensible. so reread #2, (and probably #4) how many dead threads that contain tons of hurt feels have you resurrected? accidently doing it, once or twice, ok, but your behavior, at least on the forums, has indeed been obnoxious.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:17 pm Honestly? I haven't either Orbiter. However there does need to be some reaction to way things are being pursued. Now, I can believe that it's not as I beleive, that it's a popularity/attention issue, but that it may be an annoyance issue. Laguna doesn't like me 'hyper-posting' and dominating converastions. I can believe that THIS is why, but as of now I'm not leaning in that direction. I jumped into a conversation in a thread Laguna started, you may remember, he posted something like "you're hijacking my thread solomon but whatever". I don't believe he was right but I chose to humble myself and appologize- which he ignored. This made me lose respect for him. I knew that if he could/would not accept an honest appology that he would not be able to ever give one either. See? The truth of the matter is that the birds of a feather thing is true. Liars have liars for friends, (I swear I'm not attacking) theives have theives for friends, my point is... When somoene demonstrates behavoirs that aren't in line with your own you tend to gravitate away and in some cases you would rather not be in their company at all. So going into this there are perceptions at play. Anyway, yeah, lets drop it. Moderators aren't needed except for political muscle. I get it. (if they aren't impartial then this is the way it is)
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Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:21 pm
Absolutely! Don't tell me that you didn't talk about Janet Jacking pulling her tittie out at the Superbowl! Don't tell me people didn't talk about Brittany shaving her head (that obnoxious little brat) lol Dude... come on! lol
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:25 pm I vote for Laguna
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:28 pm a fact in this world, good looking females can get away with an awful lot. i don't think you fall into that catagory
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:32 pm You'd be suprised when you're boss is female ;)
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:34 pm Everyone here Loves Laguna, that is a fact. If we think it would be beneficial for another moderator to be voted in to assist or sit in for Laguna when he isn't around, that is fair. SuperSoldier, stop talking to Solomon like a child. He's a grown man and the first time you posted was really really ignorant. What you said about Solomon has BEEN said about you by the same people whos asses you kiss everyday in chat. I'm not even going to say anything else. Solomon has a RIGHT to voice any concern he wants regardless if we agree or not. He asked for a vote. I think if you all refrain from attacking him, and vote, you would let the vote speak for itself instead of looking real immature. I didn't see all of you running your mouth when you figured out that Whiteboy pushed the gms to probably the worst change in sc history. But you are all ganging up on someone asking for a vote. Did we get a "VOTE' for war levels? Can we get one now? You people need to calm your anger and find the right outlet for it.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:35 pm oh... and WHAT?!
uh... zero... do you have hurt feelings that you can't convey? do you need a hug? what the [bleep] are you talking about? If I did, I don't know it.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:40 pm Oh, you think keeping war information around for people to read is bad... don't bottle it up, say something! I bumped them only for a who's been fighting who, that's all.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:41 pm The resurrected threads are all good history and a barrel of laughs. It was good reading all the old arguments and stuff. It made me realize how much I miss these people that were here when I started the game and how empty and void it is now. It also gives the present makeup of sim something to model on. Without conflict or anything like that, this game gets real boring. I won't even lie, I can get more satisfaction from playing any number of console or PC games. But this forum.... is PRICELESS. And that is why I pay that 48 bucks with a smile.
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 07:42 pm Start passing out the 'brownie points' Laguna lol
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| Thursday, December 2, 2010 - 10:23 pm *shakes head* have it your way
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 05:40 am I would like to announce my candidacy for moderator. Platform: 1. Censorship of inappropriate language. 2. Mandated proper spelling and grammar. 3. Censorship of ignorance and stupidity.
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 05:56 am #3 disqualifies you. You don't recognize your own stupidity half the time. What qualifies you to recognize another person as ignorant or stupid?
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 06:57 am i guess you half to be one, to know one
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 06:58 am i guess,
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 07:18 am Wendy, it appears I've been overestimating you. 
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 07:42 am It's not about my way Vs their way Orbiter, it's really not. Thank you all for not bringing me home to a brawl tonight. (It would have waited 'til morning I am going to shoot zombies)
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 10:40 am This thread should be locked. Mostly for the potential entertainment value.
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 08:37 pm I really do get a kick out of that old dude pulling the donkey up there in the 4th post. "WHOOO!-WHOOO! (and then in the donkey's face) WHOOO!" lol
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 09:40 pm Bottom Line: The validity and benefits of electing our leadership aren't even debated because it's benefits are obvious. I support it. I do not think now is the right time though because it was born out of strife. The people that oppose it now obviously are opposing one player over another and any actual debate has been side tracked. Yet there still is no debate, the benefits are clear. I can not continue to support this because at it's core shouldn't be one player against another. I'm putting it to rest and posting a vote on the matter NEXT new year season. New year 2012. That can be our fist election, and if it passes I will show continued interest at that time because for me it's not about toppling Laguna he's just what prompted the idea. There are currently 2 positions? Laguna is a shoe in for reelection, Jonni Gil is the moderator gone missing with something to worry about, yes? Laguna, after reading into the Terms of Service, that I agreed to, I realize that you were right and I was wrong, I appologize- I'm sorry. Surly you can understand how from my perspective it looks like I was getting 'punked'. (though I would still argue that about the text art) I'm sorry, as much as I post I should have read the TOS first... my bad. Oh, and thank you for not banning me because I know you could have. If you would, please make a judement call on the Denis Leary video, "I'm an asshole", in the "I hate you guys" thread? Vulgar or not. I think it's art and the place of posting appropriate but obsenity is subjective. Please delete it if you find it offensive, the lyrics drop the F bomb in the middle of the song. Thank you
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 10:10 pm How come their names always end in 'i'? Jozi Tommi Jonni Kind of creepy...
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| Friday, December 3, 2010 - 10:38 pm I vote for myself to fill Lagina's shoes when he's not around.
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| Saturday, December 4, 2010 - 10:58 pm I vote for Keto
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 12:35 am I don't think anybody has given enough reason as to why we need more/different moderation. I'm completely happy with the hands-off approach that has been used (for the most part). I want to know how more moderation is going to make SC a better game. I want to know what you propose to do differently than LG. If anything could use moderators it would be the chat, though it hasn't had the sort of problems it had before they changed the rules.
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 12:41 am Laguna's doing a fine job. Solomon is just being a little brat.
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 03:21 am Fire Laguna, banish him to the basement.... ..use the spiked paddles
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 05:03 am Scarlet you cannot censor stupidity on the forum, there wouldn't be enough new material left to read
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 05:11 am Don't worry. I'm not taking any of this seriously.
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 05:25 am oh I know, basically I'm bored and reading stupid new material
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 05:26 am Vote for Pedro! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82NLsytpkc
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| Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 05:29 am http://voteforpedro.com/ I voted for Pedro.
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| Monday, December 6, 2010 - 02:30 am I vote for LH as moderator, bring some rationality back to the forums.
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| Monday, December 6, 2010 - 08:29 am Runs and jumps up on da podium..... Vote KissOfDeath as your next SimCountry moderator. I promise ........ well i promise EVERYTHING! (Of course I'm lying, all politicians do ha ha ha). I know Laguna promised me that I could take his job. I know I have it written down somewhere.... *Goes to Look*. Now that I'm not playing any more, I just know I can be fair and impartial. lol Oh you ask, do I have a list of peeps. Why No, (shakes head) I dun have a list of those to give da boot (crosses fingers behind back). giggles j/k Hello, Solomon, long time no see. Give Laguna a hug for what he does. I would suspect being a moderator would not be a fun job. Oh heck, I'll give Laguna a hug, cuz I miss him. Hope Everyone has a very Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year! All my best, Jan
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| Monday, December 6, 2010 - 04:01 pm Hi Kiss This place is like Hollywood, never know when you'll see a star.
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 03:52 pm Hi kissofdeath. U sound hot I heard from someone that u r a sweety.
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 05:28 pm lol she sounds hot? How does one sound hot on a game forum? I think what you meant is hey I'm sad and desperate for female attention, I'm 15 and I have my own schwinn and I also dream of seeing boobs, can we talk so I can pretend chix like me.
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 06:01 pm I am 22 not 15 u sound jelous and a a$$
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 06:10 pm I probably am an a$$ but I still don't know how she sounds hot here, I'm not saying she's not but have you spoken with her? I know she seems very nice from just chats here and I bet she's smart too which I find attractive plus i bet she's got a sexy accent but you wouldn't know that from reading that post.
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 06:20 pm I always got that impression too Veland ;) An Aussie accent is very sexy. Where are you from Miss Eyes? Take your pick for all we know she's a northern Canadian Inuit grandmother leaving her lap top in her igloo to gut a seal for dinner. lol
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| Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - 07:07 pm Wild guess, but I bet she's from Tennessee. She "sounds" like she's from Tennessee.
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| Wednesday, December 8, 2010 - 12:31 am that's my bet.
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| Wednesday, December 8, 2010 - 08:22 pm I want pics!
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 12:20 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ8u3fdmhjM
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 07:45 am lmao! Kiss I did NOT post that!
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 06:44 pm Kiss My Ass, Aaron. lol
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 07:01 pm Heya Kissy ;)
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 09:43 pm Hey Wendyloo! Happy Holidays!
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| Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 11:31 pm Merry X-Mas
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| Friday, December 10, 2010 - 12:34 am get a room...can i watch?
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| Friday, December 10, 2010 - 01:38 am !Slap Blue ;)
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| Friday, December 10, 2010 - 04:15 pm You are such a perv! Blue - BB2 in a big way! Wait til I see you! Thx Wendyloo! BTW, Blue is getting lumps of coal in his Christmas stocking. bb2 *Makes Call to Santa*
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| Friday, December 10, 2010 - 07:44 pm Haha busted Mista!
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