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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 03:32Link
I suspect there is/was a lot of hacking going on in this community. The way certain information is gained and shared throughout the community is becoming a problem. People's settings change, for some unknown reason unchanging code does not perform as written or expected.
Hacking in Online games like this one is not only common, but highly lucrative, attractive and challenging, therefore attracting a lot of would be hackers and 'sore-losers'
The fact that hacking in some very simple forms is occurring should be of concern to the owners of this site. Then there is cause for concern of a moderate or experienced hacker 'really' exploiting the game. The way w3c has been absent to address minor concerns gives opportunity for these people to exploit the system when the backup servers are only saving data for a few days at most. By the time w3c has any time to respond the data necessary to verify the hacks would be long gone.
Hacking in Online games like this one is not only common, but highly lucrative, attractive and challenging, therefore attracting a lot of would be hackers and 'sore-losers'
The fact that hacking in some very simple forms is occurring should be of concern to the owners of this site. Then there is cause for concern of a moderate or experienced hacker 'really' exploiting the game. The way w3c has been absent to address minor concerns gives opportunity for these people to exploit the system when the backup servers are only saving data for a few days at most. By the time w3c has any time to respond the data necessary to verify the hacks would be long gone.
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Keto (Golden Rainbow)
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23 Feb 2011 03:54Link
Where did that come from?
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Scarlet (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 06:19Link
Keto, game's clearly infested with hackers. Wendy can't make a profit and she's losing C3s left and right.
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ViC (Kebir Blue)
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23 Feb 2011 06:26Link
Well I have noticed strange things since I came back. Setting or products I don't recall changing or ordering...
guess changing my password should be a weekly thing...
guess changing my password should be a weekly thing...
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 06:35Link
Seriously Scarlet. I've certainly made more off this game in the last 6 months than you have in your entire SC career.
When have you ever in your natural SC life held a coin, much less sold any? Never. Because you don't make any. I have empires intentionally losing money on 3 worlds that cost me 90 coins per month + the debt accrued for no other reason than I just like them sitting there and have nothing better to do with the coins I have made lately. Get your weight up and get back to me, chump.
When have you ever in your natural SC life held a coin, much less sold any? Never. Because you don't make any. I have empires intentionally losing money on 3 worlds that cost me 90 coins per month + the debt accrued for no other reason than I just like them sitting there and have nothing better to do with the coins I have made lately. Get your weight up and get back to me, chump.
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Just Looking (Fearless Blue)
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23 Feb 2011 17:51Link
Wendy you could always sell 500gc to me
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 19:48Link
haha, I'm on that later today, I'm just waiting for the stupid game to recognize I have no more loans lol.
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Theokles
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23 Feb 2011 19:55Link
Oh my...Psycho Honey I love the way you responded to scarlet, your my type of women!! haha! So business savvy!
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 20:32Link
lol
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Josias (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 20:50Link
thing i'm curious about, if some one is smart enough to hack wendy's account, and screw with her settings, why wouldn't they turn off her war protection? curious thought.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 21:16Link
My meagre account has experienced some change in settings time to time. Ive always thought it was some silly bug. But evil hackers sounds much more fun of an explanation ;)
Seriously thou, W3C should always improve net security since this game involves RL cash (which increases the stakes). And not at very least, fix all those small but irritating bugs.
Seriously thou, W3C should always improve net security since this game involves RL cash (which increases the stakes). And not at very least, fix all those small but irritating bugs.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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23 Feb 2011 21:21Link
so as not to be obvious? Besides, your dense mind has you stuck on trivial things. I'm talking about hacking 'the game' in order to gain an advantage. I suspect there is a little account hacking but that would be a little harder and more detectable than running a script to mess up player settings, or screw up the code(that doesn't mutate btw).
The easiest and most beneficial hacks would be those that involve cheating or manipulation of the economic aspect of the game or disrupting the mechanics of the war engine. The knowledge of what will or won't happen in advance of a war could have devastating consequences and is not entirely hard to pull off. The difficulty of the deal is not getting caught.
So, to answer your question...
If someone like myself who is known to keep wp on was suddenly hacked and my WP was turned off, then I complained on the forum about it, I expect w3c would take that very seri
The easiest and most beneficial hacks would be those that involve cheating or manipulation of the economic aspect of the game or disrupting the mechanics of the war engine. The knowledge of what will or won't happen in advance of a war could have devastating consequences and is not entirely hard to pull off. The difficulty of the deal is not getting caught.
So, to answer your question...
If someone like myself who is known to keep wp on was suddenly hacked and my WP was turned off, then I complained on the forum about it, I expect w3c would take that very seri
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OsterTech (Golden Rainbow)
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23 Feb 2011 22:47Link
OsterTech has an internal security division : 3 battalions of SAS with M14's are guarding my account :D
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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24 Feb 2011 03:20Link
Just looking, I'm ready now. I'll be in chat around 11pm EST
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ViC (Kebir Blue)
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24 Feb 2011 06:17Link
Is the IRC chat still availalbe? I have been looking for the link but can't find it in the forums.. I suspect the thread might have been deleted?
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Scarlet (Little Upsilon)
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24 Feb 2011 06:30Link
This might help.
I'm fairly sure that it's still up, but I don't use IRC so I really don't know.
I'm fairly sure that it's still up, but I don't use IRC so I really don't know.
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ViC (Kebir Blue)
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24 Feb 2011 13:59Link
Thank you Scarlet
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Tom Willard
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25 Feb 2011 01:02Link
The number of times we have seen proof of the hacking of an account in the past years or in fact from the first day the game runs, can be counted on one hand.
In all but one case, the player gave his password to another player.
There might have been more such cases but we did not receive a complaint.
Those we did recieve, we looked into and just recently, gave an account back to the legal owner.
settings are not changed spontanously.
there are some automatic support functions that will intervene if the country is sinking and the player either does not login or the country is close to bankruptcy.
we had some people complain about these changes and we have told them how to prevent them by managing the needed changes by themselves.
In all but one case, the player gave his password to another player.
There might have been more such cases but we did not receive a complaint.
Those we did recieve, we looked into and just recently, gave an account back to the legal owner.
settings are not changed spontanously.
there are some automatic support functions that will intervene if the country is sinking and the player either does not login or the country is close to bankruptcy.
we had some people complain about these changes and we have told them how to prevent them by managing the needed changes by themselves.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
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25 Feb 2011 01:30Link
Thanks for the response Tom.
Interestingly enough, I agree, settings do not change spontaneously. But they have been noted to spontaneously change. That would qualify as a paradox huh?
However, most of the settings that have changed recently have been noted by players who are not irresponsible or negligent towards their countries or enterprises. Interestingly enough, I agree also that the account tampering is minor, and rare if it occurs at all.
But, game hacks is what I am speaking of. After doing some investigation of my own after my account crossing a few months back with that of a very prominent player known with threatening players with hacking stating 'I've got your IP' I have actually come to the reality that it is indeed very easy, and possibly even more likely that game hacks are responsible for at least some of the very random inconsistencies especially during wars.
Scripts are extreme
Interestingly enough, I agree, settings do not change spontaneously. But they have been noted to spontaneously change. That would qualify as a paradox huh?
However, most of the settings that have changed recently have been noted by players who are not irresponsible or negligent towards their countries or enterprises. Interestingly enough, I agree also that the account tampering is minor, and rare if it occurs at all.
But, game hacks is what I am speaking of. After doing some investigation of my own after my account crossing a few months back with that of a very prominent player known with threatening players with hacking stating 'I've got your IP' I have actually come to the reality that it is indeed very easy, and possibly even more likely that game hacks are responsible for at least some of the very random inconsistencies especially during wars.
Scripts are extreme