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Water Treatment Facilities? (Little Upsilon)

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Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
12 Jun 2011 16:05Link
About 30 water treatment facilities randomly disappeared over the course of 2799.

-Has anyone else had this problem?

-If so, does it have anything to do with the shortages?

-Is there a way to keep this from happening again?
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Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
12 Jun 2011 16:19Link
It's happened in all my countries.

>:(
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white darkness (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
13 Jun 2011 00:24Link
They're disappearing because you need water maintenance.

Facilities Demolished
Thu May 2, 2800 Due to a lack of Water maintenance, The Etellte Confederation was unable to maintain its Water treatment facilities. Their number has been reduced from 108 to 99 installations.
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
13 Jun 2011 02:58Link
I had a lot of trouble getting hold of water maintenance and installations recently, so it's probably a market problem coupled with the above.
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Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
13 Jun 2011 19:51Link
Ah. Thank you.
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Scarlet (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
18 Jun 2011 10:23Link
Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink!
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Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
18 Jun 2011 22:27Link
I know the albatross market has been great for the past few weeks, but it's really not helping guys!
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Scarlet (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
19 Jun 2011 04:09Link
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Tom Willard

All worlds
19 Jun 2011 22:08Link
The problem is shortage of water maintenance units.

There are three corrections:

1. Starting in the coming update in the coming week, such shortages of maintenance units for water treatment facilities, train tracks and roads will not cause any destruction but will continue to reduce the supply index.

2. to solve the problem immediately, we have added the product on all worlds and substantially reduced the shortage in the product.

We advise you to quickly rebuild. the transportation index should be restored to prevent a damage to the welfare index.

3. the supply index influence on the welfare index is somewhat reduced to limit the damage of shortages on the welfare index. This will be part of the next update.
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rep (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Jun 2011 01:05Link
Ah ha, no wonder my water maint. corp has had reduced profits the past few months!

Oh well, it was a good run while it lasted.

Thanks for the heads up, Tom.
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rep (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Jun 2011 18:04Link
I have an issue that is bugging me a bit.

Do the GMs consider new corps being built that month when deciding how much supply to inject into the market?

I understand that the amount injected does not immediately change a shortage into a surplus, but there are a couple knock on effects to a supply injection: (a) the price of the product will come down due to the new supply, (b)if a sufficient amount of new corp builds are combined with the injected supply, a surplus may develop.

Case in point: I built a new water treatment corp several game months prior to the supply injection. By rights, because of the overall backlog and supply and demand, this corp should have been profitable for a game decade at a minimum. Cutting to the chase, this corp is not profitable since the injection. The price has come down, and the product has gone from deep red to midlevel green.

Just wanted to throw my two cents out there. T
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Tom Willard (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
21 Jun 2011 19:50Link
We hardly intervene.

we did intervene on these maintenance units for water treatment because the shortage was damaging many countries.

as of tomorrow, we will install an update that will prevent the damage and we will stop the intervention altogether.

the shortages continued despite our intervention and will become much more severe after we stop.

This was an exception and this is why we explained what we are doing.

the number of corporations built this month, for any product depends on shortages but it can never compensate for the shortages.

you need 20-50 times more corporations to compensate for the shortage than the number built in a single month.

and then, when shortages decline, if ever, these corporations are not built any more and the focus moves to other types of corporations with very severe shortages.

conclusion:

the automatic buildup of corporations in countries tha
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rep (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Jun 2011 20:10Link
Thanks, Tom. I wasn't trying to bust on anyone, I was just upset at the rapid changeover in market situation regarding water treatment plants. And I'm in a snarky mood today, so I had to rant.

You guys are an easy target, the only thing you might do is toss an earthquake my way! :D

Only kidding, honest, only kidding!
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Jun 2011 21:47Link
I was mean once to Tom,got an earthquake killing 2 million civilians few weeks after that *gulp*. So be nice to Tom.

;)

Btw, cheers for the update on maintenance, good see to its being dealt with.
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rep (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
22 Jun 2011 18:47Link
NiAi,

That's why I specified I was only kidding! :P

I'd like to have more time to get really in-depth with the econ reports and all. It'd be more accurate to run spreadsheets to get an average monthly demand, etc.

But as a general overview it'll serve. Thanks for the kudos.

BTW, if end of Nov. is any indicator, there aren't really very many industries I'd be comfortable getting into right now. Even the FMU, electric, and oil industries are coming close to breakeven. The thing that's keeping it tight right now are the massive backlogs of most products and the underproduction of what's out there already.

If people don't close a bunch of corps, and they ramp up production to at least 100%, the supply shortage will eventually come to an end.
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Ramasas (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
22 Jun 2011 19:18Link
i got tons of water maintenance if anyone needs them i produce thousands month
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Ramasas (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
22 Jun 2011 19:32Link
all mine are profiting really well but i had to drop saleries to 100 to get max out of them as odd as that seems

Dassau Water maintenance

Products Sold Current Month 5,055.69M SC$
Cash Available Now 56,064.19M SC$

Products Sold Last Year 58,524.86M SC$
Profit Last Year 19,141.73M SC$
Net Profit Last Year 10,169.04M SC$
Products Sold Last Month 5,430.94M SC$
Profit Last Month 2,348.57M SC$
Net Profit Last Month 1,247.68M SC$

for what its worth, everyone needs water even if the worlds coming to an end lol
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rep (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
22 Jun 2011 20:51Link
True point Ramasas, except in Europe where they drink beer 'cuz they can't drink the water! :D (/me ducks)

My maintenance corps are doing well. My new treatment plant went through a couple month blip because my timing sux, and I built it right before the GMs adjusted supply.
But it's all right now, back to profitability.