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What happened to SimCountry? (Little Upsilon)

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Keto (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:17 am Click here to edit this post
What happened? This place is a ghost town. No one is in chat, no one is bickering in the forums. This game has turned into an economy only game!
Lets stir up some action people!
Where are the wars we once knew? Surely there is a way to fight wars with all the new changes.

Are ya'll scared or something?
Message me and lets get things going the way this game should be played!

Scarlet (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 12:53 pm Click here to edit this post
New information must be assimilated first.

Kunin (White Giant)

Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 07:57 pm Click here to edit this post
im a new player but im here and up for anything really, im trying to fix some kinks in my country right now but soon i should be able to do some wars, or somthing to that regard.

Border C

Friday, June 24, 2011 - 01:00 am Click here to edit this post
Crafty did it.

Billy_Bob_Joe_Bob_Steve (Kebir Blue)

Friday, June 24, 2011 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post
It's the fuckin' war levels. You can really only go to war with C3s now, and despite all of my attempts to get a world war started, it just doesn't work.... GET RID OF THE MOTHERFUCKING WAR LEVELS!

Border C (Little Upsilon)

Friday, June 24, 2011 - 07:02 pm Click here to edit this post
How eloquently stated...

Solaris (Little Upsilon)

Friday, June 24, 2011 - 07:35 pm Click here to edit this post
You war players should be deploying sneak attacks. Imagine a situation where 100 different countries across all SC worlds are hit with coordinated attacks on the same day...

That would liven things up and I'll even build some ammo corps to assist in the ensuing battles. :p

Solaris (Little Upsilon)

Friday, June 24, 2011 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Imagine a situation where 100 300 different countries across all SC worlds are hit with coordinated attacks on the same day...

:)

Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 08:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Haha time to dig out my rusty old nukes and have a go at it! W00T nuclear apocalypse, here we come!!!

Josias (Little Upsilon)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 02:14 am Click here to edit this post
in the attempt to create a game with no losers, we've ended up with a game, with no winners

Serpent (Fearless Blue)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 02:32 am Click here to edit this post
Josias..... I couldn't have said it any better myself! That is perfect statement, pure genius!

Lorelei (Fearless Blue)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 02:42 am Click here to edit this post
They need to get their heads out of space and come back down to sim earth. Whole game is messed up including the ridiculous 'free' and i cough 'new' players in chat. oh all returnees of course. ha ha ha ha ha or so they say :S

I lobby to keep free players out of forum except beginner's thread and out of chat period. May cut down on some of the nonsense. :-P If peeps wanna create new accounts to harrass paid members, then at least let's make em pull out the credit cards and pay for it!!!

Matt Patton (Golden Rainbow)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:56 am Click here to edit this post
If you want more war build more ammo company
no economy no war no weapon no war no ammo no war

WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 11:32 am Click here to edit this post
Well if you gave me 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count I'd say, War Levels.


I mean honestly, mathematically, and clearly (not including freeplayers that quit every 2 weeks which they include in their hits per day) we've lost alot of great players including LDI Jason, Serpent is trying to get rid of his countries, lots of people thinking of leaving..


My resolution is a Board of Players with ideas both good and bad Like Elite security Council, where we meet with Jozi in a chatroom and talk about things, and ppl bring their issues to those players as most keto, lorelei Blueserpent, Serpent, Myself, etc, are all very knowledgeable of things that are going on since obviously these updates are only getting ppl MSNing me better $$$ prices for their accounts..obviously, they arent helping as far as long time players sticking to help, and the players i spend MY time on in chat helping with the game ARENT staying but for a few days or weeks, its just lost the addictive factor it used to have not just to us older players but obviously from all the new ins and outs of players and countries going green and then c3's clearly... to new players they see "no bang for their buck" which honestly nore do I. FB War world, we're all just hanging out. LU all war level 0 to make money just hanging out, *shrug* as EO once said, "just ride the wave"


Would be nice to actually get the bad things filtered out to bring to jozi to try to fix through this council and or use these new minds ideas to make better ideas combined with what we already know..


We either help SC, or just go inactive and die like the others, I wanna help, but Jozi, and the other GM team of developers gotta be open and willing to do that too. I remember fun, now half the questions I could answer with exact equations a year ago to a person, I can't even comprehend myself:


Example: Blueserpent and I we enjoy playing Econ since clearly, War game is complete crap and needs redesigning, like it or not GMs it does. It shouldnt be we figuring out how to do something positive for our gaming experience, and then you responding via email or through game news you change the exact thing we just figured out how to do. The example: Pension funds and IF funds, been trying to understand for years, finally figure it out, have a country at 600T in pensions, GMS email and say they will all be decreasing..its now at 100B...or 0 some of mine dropped to Negative's literally the week or so after, and if I recall maybe Blueserpent mailed them or something to learn more, dont quote me on that.


But anyway, Those of us who've been around can find strategies in any shape or form, where you change this, you break that, where you fix this, you completely just open a new way of making way more money financially, where you make these upgrades for weapons which BTW cost 10's of T's of dollars for some of players countries (per country) to get to 200 level just to have those change with supply units delivering less quality goods. to buy 250 quality NFP for months, spending 100's of T's thinking from the game news "Quality will become a large part of warfare" failed to include "Hey those navy fighter planes you are purchasing at ridiculous prices for the higher quality since there were no upgrades, turn into 100 quality as soon as u go to attack with them, I've ran into more problems, then solutions. That can easily be solved..


If perhaps the GMS would get a few of us, stop doing, start listening, and start applying. otherwise, I'm sure I have my SIMcity 2001 version somewhere..At least I know its demographics wont change every month ;)


Just a thought....


That of course will get overlooked just as proposals have for years...some of those n00bie proposals actually after reading through them, are neat ideas, that if given to a few players could turn them into concepts for developers....Hmm..heck you could even pay us in GC or something! or hell I'll do it for free at this point, cause right now all I do is login sit in an empty chatroom, put out loans and watch my countries go up and down up and down...when Ive yet to change anything..

As Staind in a song that happened to come on my Itunes just now says:

"I hope you're not intending
to be so condescending
It's as much as I can take.
And You're so independent,
You just refuse to bend...
So I Just keep bending UNTIL I BREAK!"


So, lets fix this...and get things working correctly. Perhaps if you listen instead of just do things, you'd be surprised how well developed not for self intentions, but for the good of the game, some of our designs ideas, and detailed calculations can be for some of the things that just simply...don't add up anymore...

Like you'd think 250 quality nfp would have a shot at least of shooting some air defense down, nah, I did it on bobo's inactive for 20 some thousand (20,000) nfp, up until my last nfp I lost 400 NFP (@ 250 quality) as that's what I purchased them at, while I dunno the quality of his Ints but he was inactive so, id imagine they couldn't be fully upgraded was only losing between 71 or 110 I believe was the highest (I'd have to check my logs) given, 3 wing response etc..etc..Bu or so up until the very last 400 I sent, I even tried 5 distances. No difference. given this is just one thing, I have yet to read the game news since arriving in California, but that's next on my agenda. god knows what's changed in 2 weeks, I'm almost scared to know....Sad. I used to look forward to game news..now I just like getting my loans back and watching my DT go up. Watch, eventually they'll stop letting us give loans too, then what..

Maybe ill start building countries for people, since I have Quads of Military laying around, If you would Like a custom built country please let me know! Since I've got not much else to do In Game..i'd enjoy helping others get started somehow!


So yeah Though Jumbled up, I think I got my point across...


<3

Learn to swim...before you dive.

daniel oneill (White Giant)

Monday, June 27, 2011 - 12:44 pm Click here to edit this post
can some 1 please tell me 2 things wen u order arms dose the amount of stock it says u hav dose that include deployed weopons 2 an allso dose ammo go dwn even if ur nt at war coz iv ordered a lot more ammo than iv got could sum 1 please anser 4 me as no1 seems 2 anser these things id b very greatfull thank u in advance

Serpent

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 03:19 am Click here to edit this post
Mr. daniel oneill

When weapons and ammo are deployed, either in units or garrisons, those weapons and ammo no longer appear in your country stock. Also, when you have units or garrisons they use a small amount of ammo as 'practice' ammo per game month.

Billy_Bob_Joe_Bob_Steve (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post
How about we organize several world wars? Maybe if we show them that we can overcome their war level BS, they'll finally get rid of it. Here's what I'm thinking: on each planet, we create several mega-federations, with at least 20 members. We make 3-5 of these mega-feds, and have everybody sign the war treaty. They all get their war levels up to three or four, then turn off protection. One country declares on another, the war treaties go into effect, and the more experienced members who have nukes turn the game into five radioactive dustballs.

Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:51 am Click here to edit this post
That's more likely to prove to the GMs that war levels work and persuade them to retain the concept, than anything else.

Hugs and respect

Jo

Josias (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 10:01 am Click here to edit this post
jo, are you for or against WL? i'm confused, i've seen your speak out against it, but really wl are in your favor

Billy_Bob_Joe_Bob_Steve (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:13 pm Click here to edit this post
From what I've heard, war levels were created in the aftermath of a world war to prevent it from happening again. If we can show them that they were wrong, then they might finally collapse to general consensus.

Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:20 pm Click here to edit this post
No, Josias, I'm not in favour of war levels. They have killed the war game completely.

I appreciate what the GMs were trying to do when they brought them in, but implementing war levels wasn't the best way to achieve it. I was playing this game before Secure Mode was thought of and, in my experience, it was a lot more fun then! I don't know why you think WLs are in my favour - I've never been a purely econ player and I'm missing the war game as much as the next person.

The knock-on effect of war levels is that they have marginalised federations and the war game. There are better ways of protecting new and econ-only players and I hope the GMs will rethink.

Hugs and respect

Jo

James the fair (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I think as soon as you own and get to at least 5 countries, there definitely should not be any war restrictions whatsoever. Also I think fighting C3 countries is getting much harder ever since they introduced the damn war levels. The higher your war level is, the harder the C3s become, I can't expand my empire fast like I want to, its just ludicrious.

Josias (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 09:17 pm Click here to edit this post
james, the c3 aspect of war levels is GREAT, that is, once you learn how to c3 raid.

jo, in an effort to not re-open old wounds, i'll leave some of what you said, alone. but you are right, war levels not only dimish feds, but nearly eliminate the political game.

the flavor of Sim Country has changed. its still fun, but the depth of the game has gone. its allot like when Coca-cola came out with "new coke," it was suppose to be so much better, but people hated it, and finally we got "classic coke," war levels have taken away way too much of what made this game great. give us back classic SC

Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 09:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree, Josias. The C3 aspect of levels is a very good idea. The PvP version not so.

The best way of convincing the GMs to go back to 'classic' Simcountry is if the players come up with better viable alternatives, which achieve what the GMs wanted to achieve, but more so and without the negative effects that WLs have imposed.

Hugs and respect

Jo

Maestro2000 (White Giant)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post
I an an econ only player and like war levels.

Sorry to hear war levels has "marginalised" the federation part of the game. @jo

Perhaps as I suggested many times before only players at war level 3 or higher should be allowed into a federation. The number one function of a federation is mutual protection of it's members. How can you allow a war level 0, 1 or 2 player into a federation when it can't protect you? Not right.

And make all worlds a war world over a certain level. Go ahead warmongers and knock yourselves out.

Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:04 pm Click here to edit this post
You're contradicting yourself, Maestro. You say that war levels have not marginalised federations, and at the same time you suggest that federations should be limited to those of a certain war level.

Federations had a number of functions (and I use the past tense deliberately). Not only to protect their members but to teach and support them. Feds are no longer able to protect their members unless they insist that all federation members get to and remain at the same war level - no higher or lower than the other fed members. This limits both the players already in the federation and the players who can join.

Teaching and support are still elements of fed membership, but in your scenario players can only join a fed where their fedmates have the same war experience as them, and are already economically capable of supporting an army. Therefore there will be very little they can teach each other.

If all feds can do is support their members ... build corps in each other's countries and b*tch to each other about game changes ... how are they anything other than marginalised?

Hugs and respect

Jo

Maestro2000 (White Giant)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:57 pm Click here to edit this post
@jo

You said feds are marginalised. Not me.

Yes, I believe federation membership should be limited to players that can protect each other.

On Teaching and support:
I remember the good old days when your massive federation used to "teach" new players the econ side of the game.

Many in your academy learned more econ from me. I was building more in their countries than your fed mates...and throwing them some important game tips. The point being players don't need to be in a federation to get econ tips. Same for war tips. Independent players (And players from various federations)are offering free advice on the message board,in the chatroom and direct messaging players that are online.

And on war levels. It was your massive federations complete failure to protect it's members that brought about the war levels rules.
Sorry to say, your federation was in fact a paper tiger.

The gamemaster did a great service in adding war levels.


Cheers,

Maestro

Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:28 am Click here to edit this post
Why are you making this personal Maestro?

Yes, I said feds were marginalised by the war levels. You implied that you disagreed. I acknowledged your disagreement and explained why I felt they were. What is it about that that makes you you feel threatened to the point where you descend into insults?

To blame WGC for the implementation of war levels is akin to blaming Christians for the Romans throwing people to the lions. It's a faulty argument on so many levels.

The only point in talking without listening is to hear yourself speak: if you don't listen to others, others will stop listening to you. If you want to engage in serious debate, then please try to be a little more civil.

Hugs and respect

Jo

Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:40 am Click here to edit this post
I agree that War levels were the WORST idea ever. Who the hell's idea was that? I remember because I am also a returnee. My previous name was ErichHonecker (In fact, you can still see one of the spaceports being used by ErichHonecker on Carina; yup that was me). Anyway, I was playing when there were no war levels and it was so much better without them!

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:49 am Click here to edit this post
@jo

The collapse of the WGC last summer and active player debate on the subject ushered in war levels.

Do you think the gamemaster would have introduced war levels if the Whiteboy crew had taken out any other federation? Be real.

It was the collapse of your massive federation that made the gamemaster act with rule changes.

Cheers,

Maestro

Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:17 am Click here to edit this post
Maestro, now you're not even listening to yourself. If you were, you wouldn't say such silly things.

Are you seriously arguing that WGC was responsible for rule changes we never asked for, just because we lost a war? That the players who decided to attack us cannot be held in any way responsible for the result of their actions? By that reasoning, the existence of the gas chambers was the fault of the Jewish people for allowing the Nazis to rise to power ...

I think this silliness of yours is just an attempt to inflame old animosity that most of us have long since forgotten about. None of us care about why it happened, we care about changing it for the better. Don't you have a war of your own to fight, that you have to try to create one between other people? Or maybe you're just trying to deflect attention away from the subject under discussion, because no one was agreeing with you ...

Hugs and respect

Jo

Lambolicious (White Giant)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:22 am Click here to edit this post
why is it showing that conventional missle and conventional missle battery can only be traded on the space market, trying to sell my stock of conventional missles on white giant, since i can't seen to buy the batteries, anyone want them?

Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:28 am Click here to edit this post
Look guys, I don't care about any ancient federations or ancient wars that went on a long time ago. The war levels may have been necessary then, but they are ruining the game now! You guys can keep passing the blame around but its not gonna help anything right now! We need a new poll started to get them removed.

Maestro2000 (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
@jo

There is nothing silly here.

At elite group of war players took down the largest federation on WG world last summer. Perhaps the largest federation on any world at the time.

From the ashes of that conflict War Levels were born.

WGA were not the Christians of the ancient world or the Jewish people from the 1930's and 1940's.
These two groups were a minority in the examples you bring to the table. Clearly the WGA was no minority group when the conflict began last summer. The perception was your federation collectively was the supreme superpower on WG world before the conflict...and a paper tiger thereafter.

Cheers,

Maestro

Vladimir Lenin (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
And I volunteer to start the poll as soon as they will allow me.

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 01:52 am Click here to edit this post
as i said above, lets not re-open old wounds, as their is much i could say. i doubt any one has forgotten what side of that war i was on.

although something to point out, the mob and allies, overwhelmingly won the shooting war, but just as overwhelmingly lost the PR war, that ended with war levels. be careful what you wish for, especially when you twist facts to get your way.

but back to the subject. easiest resolution would be to make the peaceful game mode, just that. although their would be allot of complainers, as the peaceful mode is harder to level up. honestly, that is fair, the "include defense," game levels, would mean you must defend your country.

i recently started stripping some countries that i just don't have the time to maintain. the cash i got out of what amounted to skeleton defenses, had a higher GC value than the population. and these where 40M+ pop. the war game is much more involving, and a multiplier of expense. and I feel as a result, those that put out the effort, should get a leg up on monthly awards, and SC seats.

Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 02:02 am Click here to edit this post
I totally agree Josias. Make the peaceful game mode exactly that, with higher requirements in non-defence areas and protection from attacks. Allow those who wish to go for the war option to do so, with benefits to encourage them, and lose the current war level restrictions on PvP wars.

Keeping C3 levels and allowing those in peaceful mode to attack C3s would help newer players learn the war game before losing the protection and give non-peaceful players an alternative to warring on other players just to raid their assets.

Restrictions on swapping between the two modes should prevent abuse, without making it impossible.

Hugs and respect

Jo

Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:01 am Click here to edit this post
I'd recommend a time delay similar to that used for new leader countries.

Psycho_Honey

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 06:28 am Click here to edit this post
I miss the game and the players that got me to pay in to stay and play back in 06-07. Since then the game has been steadily in free-fall due to the changes that appear to only be 'limiting' in nature. We have witnessed W3 replace an infinite struggle of noob/asshat vs veteran/prick that gave the game some substance, with an ever increasing attempt at leveling that just wasn't realistic or practical and it has hurt the game more than helped. Despite the changes which have pissed me off and others, the biggest hurt to the game is the players who felt disenfranchised by some haphazardly implemented changes and left as a result. You can have the best game in the world, but absent of dedicated players, you have but an empty shell...


Edit: Ooooh, and uh, I miss an 'active' Laguna. Big loss there :) Luuv ya Big Guy!

Maestro2000

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 05:02 pm Click here to edit this post
We miss you Wendy!

Sunny (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 06:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Wendy should be the one and only GM.

Kitsuné (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 09:27 pm Click here to edit this post
War levels give players a choice about whether they want to fight or not. This is a good thing.

The only bad part about war levels is that it does inhibit federations somewhat from fighting together.
IMO just let anyone who is WL 3+ fight anyone else 3+.

WildEyes

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Summary of this Forum post: Maestro has no idea what it used to be like. Jo, and many others do (as far as federations) and alliances are concerned. where you depended on your allies for War protection, not your war level.

Federations made the game lively, and players earned, as keto calls it, "Swag" also, led to rivalry and of course, world war...and Multi World Wars a few times..

Mob is done, I think all of us are in accords that we should split into new feds and start Federations over. Split the old major federations up (AKA vet players) remix them up, and get new players (registered) and a few (free) players to join our feds, train them help, etc..get them to register. Obviously WGC no offense Jo is done, or well they've made their impact on history. But that was an entirely different game than what we have now. Though i do think adjustments need to be made to the War engine/upgrades/levels/etc..(a few major, alot of minor)

But for the sake of the game, we could certainly do our part and mix things up a bit. and then adjust to the changes and fixes as they go.

Maestro, in the past people used to prepare themselves on other worlds, before thinking about going there...It isnt called fearless for no reason!

Crafty

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:34 pm Click here to edit this post
If you're not an asshat then you dont have anything to fear as a newb without war levels or even secured. New countries dont have any assets worth raiding anyway, hell, even population is not worth the raid nowadays.

Now if you do have assets worth raiding, you also have the means, and by then the knowledge, to defend them. Especially if you join a good fed. A bully will get his/her upcomance from other players, witness Wendys treatment of newb bashers.

So, for those reading that don't remember original sim, the game needed a lot of diplomacy, a sense of community (even if people were at each others throats) and as the 2 J's have both highlighted, this is what WL's have destroyed.

Maybe the compulsion to direct trade in space will bring back a bit more player interaction, when you have to have allies to get what you need, but that econ only bias is not the game I joined. I cant see it creating any good honest rivalry either.

Crafty

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I was wondering, who agrees with the schools policy here of not allowing kids to compete in sports, athletics etc. because there will always be a loser, and that loser might get his/her feelings hurt, and be emotionally scarred for life?
I mean, come on... has the world gone mad, or has it just been taken over by bleeding heart politically correct liberals? Jozi?

Maestro2000 (White Giant)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 11:43 pm Click here to edit this post
@WildEyes

Hey, I wasn't around three year ago, but I was around last summer. (Started playing the game Sept 2009)

What war protection did WGA give it's members last summer when a group of hignly skilled veterans destroyed them for all to see.

Your remark above is flawed.

The fallout from last summers conflict led to the GM creating War Levels.

We can't go back to the "good old days".


Fearless Remark...
FB World - A world with 6,159 countries. I play there on peaceful mode. So what, the world is swimming with available countries. Look around that world. Maybe there are 200 or so active countries in peaceful mode. That leaves a shitload of countries available for your war pleasures.

Cheers,

Maestro

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 11:50 pm Click here to edit this post
i like your example Crafty

Crafty (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 12:08 am Click here to edit this post
Poor Maestro still doesn't understand.

Taking C3s is not the war game.

The war game is interacting with other players, diplomacy, tact, friends, deceit even, playing a role playing game. A MMORPG maestro, thats what SC is, a MMORPG, remember?

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
@crafty

I'm all for the war option for all players at War Level 3 on FB world and a somewhat higher level on other worlds. Fight C3's, fight other players, form your alliances, whatever. You guys can go have a ball.

But there are a percentage of players in this game that wish to play under a peaceful mode. That lot includes me.


Cheers,

Maestro

VICI (White Giant)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 01:36 am Click here to edit this post
get rid of war levels please

Scarlet (Golden Rainbow)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 01:37 am Click here to edit this post
I'd be very, very happy with Level 3+ can attack Level 3+ on all worlds.

rep (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 04:33 am Click here to edit this post
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'd like to comment on the Fed situation.

In '08, when I left, feds were an integral part of the game. Those who have mentioned the camaraderie, etc. are so right.

I rejoined when I got the "play free forever" email advertisement. I became a full member because I wanted to see if I could reconnect with some of my old fedmates, regain the sense of community, and so on. If there is any disappointment on my side, it is that there isn't that sort of thing any more. It's a bit like sitting at your pc playing against an AI.

Feds weren't just about war. They took new players, taught them, helped them to understand the nuances of the game, and gave them a sense of belonging. It can be very intimidating to a newb to step into a game with 11,000 players and try to blend in. You could be an econ player within a fed, or a war player, or a combo. An econ player needed the basic defenses and a couple air wings to throw into the common defense, that's all.

I miss that segment of the game. I miss the forum sabre rattling, the diplomacy, the rushing to plug the hole if one of your fedmates "went rogue".

I won't be hypocritical. I'm an econ player this time around. So, as I say, I don't have a dog in this. But some of the flavor that made SC special is missing now.

And for what it's worth, and I'm not trying to blast anyone, I think that since FB is the "war world", then that's what it should be. I'm not a competent war player, that's why I'll never go to FB. My opinion is that there should be one world where things are a free for all, so removing war levels from FB seems reasonable. "Enter at your own risk" as the saying goes.

Just my 4 cents worth (inflation).

Psycho_Honey

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 06:32 am Click here to edit this post
I do miss you awl tu :) I haven't logged in for a few weeks but I couldn't resist checking in on what you awl were up to.

As far as being a GM,, Sunny, thank you for the compliment, but an entire horde of players would disagree. But they are mistaking 'me' for the context of 'me that plays the game'. I wouldn't mind being a chat moderator, although most of my troubles have arisen from chat, I call that interaction while others call it behavior that detracts from the general chat experience for other users. Personally, the lack of a dedicated moderator chat has deteriorated and most players that would normally hang around were put off by some truly disruptive behavior a while back. But chat has played a vital part in the retention of new members and the growing attachment that many players(especially myself) have come to have with this game. I don't think it was necessarily the game that is so hard to walk away from as opposed to the many distinct and genuine personalities one would meet here.

SimCountry gave me an 'international' experience with many people I would never have contact with otherwise. The depth of conversation in and out of the game with players from outside the United States has been rewarding and informative. Being so close as a keystroke to people who are thousands of miles and cultures away has its own rewards if you are the type to appreciate something like that.


Ohh, and uhhhh, Where's LH? AND I STILL GOT GOLD COINS FER SAYLE

Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:01 am Click here to edit this post
Ill take your gold coins for sale, LOL changing the subject here, but i would like to buy your gold coins Psycho_Honey , thanks, and just some advice, i remember playing back in 08 for about 6 months it was fun as it is fun today, things change and something i do want to add is that, mabey the GM should not focus on space and space wars, mabey the GM's should focus more on simcountry not space. Cheers to all.

Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:03 am Click here to edit this post
Leave space for trading not for wars, and focus more and land wars, adding space wars will b like adding another floor to a house when the first floor still needs to be updated to code.

Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:05 am Click here to edit this post
Oh forgot something, Psycho_Honey message me and ill buy your gold coins.!!! Cheers.

Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:08 am Click here to edit this post
Oh sorry one more thing, mabey the way to fix the war levels and get more people to war level 3 would be to do the unthinkable!!! For reaching war level 3 a player is given 300 gold coins. That might get things going. Cheers for the last time promise.

Psycho_Honey

Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post
I will drop you a line Q. Long time no see.

Psycho_Honey

Friday, July 1, 2011 - 06:17 am Click here to edit this post
Oh, and whatever happened to simcountry IRC... you know... the one SimCountry is supposed to host? And why has this been placed behind all the rest of these recent and not so recent changes?

Romeo Vicardi

Saturday, July 2, 2011 - 12:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Ha Ha Ha.

You are just chickens.

FB allows anyone to fight anyone else at whatever level except for protecting new players in low levels.

and yet, you are not there to fight.
you just don't want to take the risk.

and also, these C3 countries are probably too much of a war effort. noobs used to be easier to kill and rob.

this is why you don't fight.

Psycho Honey:

you hate it so much and you promised to leave us months ago, and yet, you are here all the time.
(I just cut and paste this from a previous time).

Psycho_Honey

Saturday, July 2, 2011 - 01:13 pm Click here to edit this post
My account hasn't expired. I haven't logged in for a few weeks until a few days ago. I will continue to log in until I have either sold the remainder of my gold coins or my account expires, whichever comes first.


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