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WL's on FB (Fearless Blue)

Topics: General: WL's on FB (Fearless Blue)

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 08:30 am Click here to edit this post
Was wondering, we have 5 planets apparently and not ONE is dedicated to WAR?? At least get rid of WL hide and seek on FB. Diplomacy, Federations, and Defence actualy accounted for somthing when I started 2 and a half years ago. Im sure alot of war vets will agree. Also, I had no problems, never got attacked once in building a great empire while in no war protection and NO WL's, it all had to do with manners, who you got to know, and altimatly what fed you got into. At least keep one planet that way... not a typical eco/war... they are all like that now.....

SuperSoldierRCP

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 08:34 am Click here to edit this post
i agree make FB the old way it was

21days then war

CorporatePartner (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 09:03 am Click here to edit this post
Would 'War Protection: [Temporary]" still be allowed?

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 09:08 am Click here to edit this post
good question, think so, like in the old days, like as if your going on holidays for a week or so. Perhaps more expencive on FB so you wont be able to keep WP on for along time... and your prepared to keep wp for a couple weeks.. plus.. you already got 8 hours blackout period.

Lorelei (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 09:24 am Click here to edit this post
I support this plea to the Game Masters. We ask you with high hopes that FB be restored to its former glory.

I feel like we have been asking and asking for this, yet getting no feedback publicly from the GMs on this issue.

Please tell us something.

Respectfully,
Lorelei

Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:05 am Click here to edit this post
Make all worlds a war world at war level 3.

...but keep war levels in place.

There are so many available c3 countries on FB world. This world like all other worlds needs players.

There are 6,159 countries on FB world. There's enough gravy in this turkey for all kinds of players.

Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:25 am Click here to edit this post
Number of countries in the game

KB World 3,061
FB World 6,159
WG World 6,376
GR World 4,804
LU World 3,467
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Total 23,867

Number of countries in use 11,699

Number of C3 countries = 12,168

So just over half of all countries are c3's available for player to take over. Simcountry is swimming with available c3 countries.

Look around the map on any world. Of the 11,699 in use over half of them are inactive countries, waiting to expire.

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:50 am Click here to edit this post
Here is a recent message I received from a new player on FB:

"hii

my tax rate is 0%..feel free to buy,relocate or build in my nation"

I love receiving these messages.

When I went to answer the next day I noticed that the country had a new president.

"Simcountry"

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 05:42 pm Click here to edit this post
All im saying is, have at least ONE world as a war planet. It even says in the game docs that you should be an experianced player before attempting to go to FB. Now it doesnt make any differance. Getting rid of WL's on FB would give all players a taste of what it was like. Like I had said, I had no problems with war when i first started and I was even able to build a huge empire, even with the threat of war. I also never hid behind WP. I got by with diplomacy and being in a good fed and not lipping off anyone. Wl's have taken that angle of play right off the board. Presidents come and go all the time Maestro with or without Wl's. Having a real War planet will give players an option that will realy show them what its like to balance Eco and War.

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 06:16 pm Click here to edit this post
All worlds should be a war planet over a certain level. (Level 3 on FB, perhaps a little higher on others)

As for me:

a) I'd like to see the game end population sales and make countries more fixed in their population sizes. (30 to 60 million population size) Let countries grow naturally in this range.
Good players can grow their country to the 60 level and crappy players will sit around the 30 level. Every country will have fixed minimum and maximum levels.

b) Make players sell full countries only. (Or lose in a war)

c) Get the world map looking more like a real world and not paint thrown on paper. Look at the players with countries scattered all over the place. (I'm guilty of this on some worlds) Give a profit advantage for empires growing with countries next to each other. And a profit disadvantage for empires that are scattered all over the place.

d) Give production advantages/disadvantages for countries based on political system.

e) Line of supply/army moral factor
Make distance from your main country matter in warfare.

SuperSoldierRCP (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 08:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Meastro you know i respect you but your being stupid.

Look @ the worlds. How much President warring do u find??? its not that we don't want to C3 war but there's nothing like the thrill of a PvP war. The war levels are to high news cant get to level 3 and why should someone go past lvl 3 when theres FREE war protection. The old engine was fine. Either you shut up or put up. Thats how it should be on FB.

Scarlet (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
a) Lame.
b) Lame.
c) Lame.
d) There are already significant profit advantages in place for running a Corporatist Welfare State.
e) Lame.

Border C

Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:59 pm Click here to edit this post
f) Limit resources. Give people something to fight about.

Oh... and remove WL, WP, and SM, of course.


Although, I do agree with a mostly-contiguous country. But that's just not this game.

SuperSoldierRCP

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 12:44 am Click here to edit this post
like if only oil can be made in coastal countries (even double the production again) that be nice

Maestro2000

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 02:09 am Click here to edit this post
So all the players that wish to war get to level 3 on FB world and knock yourselves out. Have yourself a party. ENJOY!

For the rest of the simcountry community, let use peacefully fold our napkins.

Green

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 02:25 am Click here to edit this post
I'm not in the game much these days but I agree 100% FB should pretty much be a war free-for-all.

Maestro2000

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 03:35 am Click here to edit this post
@Super I respect your opinion.

You lust for war on FB world. If you are not there already, why not get to war level 3 with others of like mind. Then you guys can knock each other out...and leave us napkin folders alone.

Look at FB world. There's plenty of room for all parties.

Maestro2000

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 03:39 am Click here to edit this post
Now back to packing for camp...

Good night war mongers

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 02:39 am Click here to edit this post
I like the fact that i finnaly earned the right to go to FB. I worked hard on the econ side of the game.. spent 2 years on GR and made a large empire. I started when WL's did not exist. Then, with the threat of war non existent, i desided to go for it, so I went to FB. Not for Econ, not to start a war, but for the simple fact it was the planet that was the closest to what it used to be.. after WL3.. its a free for all. Still not the same as it used to be, to many staying below wl 3 and not even worried about paying for WP. I was hoping it would be the same as the old days.. I worked hard and fast to assemble a defence and strong country. I look around and see that there are only a few players that have done the same as I have, the rest have no worries at all.. ON A SUPPOSED WAR PLANET!! Let's get the act straight GM... make this planet as cool as all planets used to be and drop the WL's on FB...

Josias (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 02:59 am Click here to edit this post
you know, i was rather unimpressed with this "No war levels on FB" campaign, i felt the free for all above WL3 was enough. But Homer just convinced me.

Please, can't we have one old school planet?

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Friday, July 1, 2011 - 07:28 am Click here to edit this post
I see that this particulat thread has gone viral and spread to other threads lol. So im gussing alot of players want this. I have also been talking personaly to other players that agree that FB needs to be a WL free planet. And thanks Josias.. your very correct "Please, can't we have one old school planet?"

Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

Friday, July 1, 2011 - 05:01 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree.

Border C (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, July 2, 2011 - 03:52 pm Click here to edit this post
You know, it's not like there were a lot of wars on FB back then....

Though, if they are changing it to 6 month spin, that could be just what the doctor ordered....

Open Sesame (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, July 2, 2011 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
It's probably infeasible right now, and many have objections to a five-month spin. If they could change it to 6, though, that would be great.

CorporatePartner (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 07:57 am Click here to edit this post
Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)
Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 01:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Total war should be the domain of FB world. No secure countries and no WP should be allowed. (Exception is newbies joining FB)

If you want to War it out...go there.

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 09:03 am Click here to edit this post
i'm tossed up about the WP, i mean people do get sick, go on vacation, or otherwise can't be at their computers every day of the year. The announced increase cost of WP on FB is good, but i think maybe giving a higher free amount of WP like one every 8 GM, and then do not allow any buying of WP for FB... but their planned changes are good, lets see how it plays out?

my other thought, is every RL month, your War Level automatically increases by 1, up to 3 where the automatic leveling up stops. That gives every one 3 months to prepare... shoot, increase it one every 2 months, giving players 6 months to get ready, i'd still be happy.

Maestro2000

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 04:55 pm Click here to edit this post
July 5, 2011 Quote from Jonni Gil

"War levels are here to stay.
We are working on making the war game more accessible so that people who want to wage war against each other can do it more freely.

Any opinions and suggestions on the matter will of course be taken into account. "

Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 05:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I maintain that War Levels should not be a factor on FB. Going up WL on FB should be rewarded with better C3s to raid and higher Game Levels, as it is on all other worlds. War Levels 1 and 2 should not offer protection on FB.

Homerdome (Kebir Blue)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 06:26 pm Click here to edit this post
I like your idea Josias. It would give time to build a small empire and search out a fed to help protect you while you build further. At least that way there your not going to remain at WL 2 forever. Also, if the rules where to change, it would give people that are already there and below WL 3 to do the same.

SuperSoldierRCP (Little Upsilon)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 10:02 pm Click here to edit this post
on the topic of WP it would be a flat rate for the empire. Like 5GC per day for the empire thats no unreasonable as most keep 4-5slaves and its better then 1GC per 4months on a now 6month world. Flat empire rates would make it much easier. On top of that the GM can make WP All or non.

ZentrinoRisen (Little Upsilon)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 10:34 pm Click here to edit this post
I have always been a mostly peaceful player. I too played before WL's and never got into a war. I agree much has to do with how you present yourself. I never looked for war because I didn't want it. At one time, I probably had 10 countries that didn't have enough combined defense to save one.
That said, I agree one planet should be about war and not offer free protection. The game has to offer something to those who want war if they are going to advertise it that war.
I also like Josias' idea of auto-moving levels to give people plenty of time to get ready.

Maestro2000 (White Giant)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 10:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Question:

How difficult is it to get to War Level 3?

Is it something Barren could do?

Romeo Vicardi (Little Upsilon)

Friday, July 8, 2011 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Everyone can easily get to war level 3.
if you cannot, don't go to FB and don't start any wars.

there must be a minimum war level protection also on FB or we will get back to the killing of noobs.

player to player fighting, war level 3 and up must be completely free.

in the mean time, I will build my empire on FB and get ready for war.

ZentrinoRisen (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, July 9, 2011 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post
How would eliminating WL's on FB lead to the killing of noobs? They can still play other worlds. If they change FB to no WLs, then noobs shouldn't be started on the planet. Maybe they have to play 30 days before they can move there too. That way it is not just vet war monger pouncing on unsuspecting new guy all the time.

Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, July 9, 2011 - 01:40 am Click here to edit this post
Would all agree it is easy to get to War Level 3?

white darkness (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, July 9, 2011 - 08:38 pm Click here to edit this post
New players aren't started on FB by random chance, which is why it's empty.

Psycho_Honey

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 02:21 am Click here to edit this post
It is easy to get to war level 3. Very easy in fact. But there shouldn't be a mechanism forcing anyone up the war levels. If there was one added, war levels wouldn't be practical in the first place. Why go through all the trouble to have this feature installed only to have it undone as soon as the players who advocated and praised its' inception find it unsuitable to their raiding habits? Pathetic.

Josias (White Giant)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
we're talking about FB, kido

Psycho_Honey

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 06:32 am Click here to edit this post
Josias I can go back and find the endless number of quotes of you cheerleading for the implementation of war levels FB or not. But lets place the emphasis on the real matter at hand behind yours and others' change of hearts on the matter


Quote:

Why go through all the trouble to have this feature installed only to have it undone as soon as the players who advocated and praised its' inception find it unsuitable to their raiding habits? Pathetic.


Josias (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 07:05 am Click here to edit this post
lol, their are 4 planets that NEW players are randomly put on. FB is a choice, 3-6 month prep... between building up and finding a good fed, it really shouldn't take that long.

anyways, i've been playing on your chess thing, i'm happy with the high level of competition. still trying to work my way up to a winning record. i'm trying to average 3 games a day. anyways, still hope to see you there

Psycho_Honey

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 08:28 am Click here to edit this post
My handle is IMJR let me know when you are on so we can do battle :)

As far as the fb thing, the point can be argued either way over and over. My position is that the players in the 'know' do not fight each other for fear of loss. As a result those players need n00bs to feed on in order to maintain those superior armies. Moving players up without a choice is tantamount to placing us where we were when we supposedly needed war levels. Vets eating thew weak. There are plenty of players on FB that can fight war. Again you all CHOOSE not to, in favor of the easy victory.

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post
your right, about the that, i agree, how ever, i think just like bears loosing their habitat, things might change

further, i truely believe, that the main problem to the war game... is when a new player shows up in the chat, they are told to sell their weapons...

and that the documentation is pretty useless to a new player, it creates a demograph of econ only players.

FB is the planets for players that "get it"

jeese, stop being obstinate, and just fight

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 09:19 am Click here to edit this post
makes me think about the high defense the game has now, maybe the right thing, atm

long run, it will kill the war game, when it cost more to take a country than if benefits you.

i mean, let the drama play out, at a cost. you hear that!! who ever is managing bobo's accounts, it will cost you more than me, and in the long run, i'll win.

Blueserpent (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 01:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Bobo's account is empty.

Any remaing countries were deregged by him and his last remaining ceo has been given away.

So quite how an account without a single country or ceo can be managed by anyone, is beyond me.

Lorelei

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 03:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Josias, Now I am firmly convinced that you are just a multi personality of Wildeyes, Jess or whoever the hell IT is OR just a pathetic lap dog. Wildeyes or whoever IT is has been the only player I know that has had some sick obsession over Bobo, and it appears that you have the same???? Good God, he can't even quit the game. ha ha ha ha So pathetic you and yours are.

For your information, noone is running Bobo's account but Bobo. I'm sorry, hard as you and yours try and project your own missplaying on me and my game friends, it just isn't true. You, Wildeyes, or whoever, comprise half of the players in this game with multi accounts. Wildeyes has threatened a player with SirSmokesAlot account. Smokes admitted she was in it. She has been in chat under his name. She has told other players she has control of MANY accounts in the game. Sooooooooo SHE LIES OR SHE CHEATS. :-)

It is so blatantly obvious. You must think us genuine players fools. Nah. I'm no fool. I just sit back and laugh at what lengths you idiots go for a game lol

As far as you winning in the end? Well if your intention is for game domination.... well maybe.... because YOU and YOURs are running the decent players off.

So save your breath, Josias. Tell WildEyes if she has anything to say....for HER to do the talking and you stop playing her B***** Boy. Pathetic, you all are lol

Gotta love Simcountry! ha ha ha ha Thank you for my early morning laugh.

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 03:29 pm Click here to edit this post
"It is easy to get to war level 3. Very easy in fact" Quote from Wendy

Conclusion: There is no need to reduce war level requirement on any world. (FB included)

For the players that wish the war option, just get to War Level 3.

Maestro2000 (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 03:50 pm Click here to edit this post
I say make a war continent on each world.

Let players interested in the war option with other players buy a booster and move their country to a war continent. (Swap with a c3) A random move to a c3 on the war continent cost 1 coin. A move to a specific available c3 on the war continent cost 5 coin. Countries moved to a specific country on the war continent cannot wage war for 14 days.

For players going on vacation, just buy a booster and move your country off the war continent.(These countries will have a minimum 14 day waiting period before they can return to the war continent)

No temporary war peace allowed on the war continent.

Your country is fair game 24/7 when on the continent.

A country must be at war level 3 or higher to move to the war continent.

Any country currently in war cannot move off the war world.

Also, countries on the war continent are given a 25% discount on government and military costs.

Scarlet (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 04:13 pm Click here to edit this post
No.

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 04:25 pm Click here to edit this post
i hit a nerve their, Jan, didn't i?

you blame me for Bobo quiting, then tell me he's gonna take his own countries back

you tell me he doesn't have access to his MSN, but want me to return his countries. and he's giving you his stuff? I was never obligated to return them, in the first place.

YOU have *obviously* account shared, and have even locked your own pal out of his account, so that the GM had to step in, but YOU will accuse any one you want of account sharing, just becuase you don't like what they have to say. Frankly, the past evidence supports my conclusion.

send a message to the GM, if you think i'm account sharing, i'll even place a wager as to whether my account will still be here.

you can't have it both way. you can't brand some one a multi, and shun them for it, when you do it your self. you can't make some one feel bad for another player quitting, when they didn't quit. i mean some how you don't think your feces stinks.

its amazing

Lorelei (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Josias, try as you like....... you will never be able to pin me as a multi, because I am not. lol No, you have hit no nerve at all with me. You just make me sick to my stomach with your patheticness as it relates to Bobo. If you want to talk to Bobo and find out the truth, then give me your MSN addy and I'll ask him to contact you himself.

GMs are welcome to look into my game activities. I have and always will play the game above board.

Good try, little boy. Attempt - Fail. :-)

I trust you and I have nothing further to say to each other? Because honestly, you are a waste of time.

Josias (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post
" I have and always will play the game above board." -Jan

seriously? i mean, do you just keep lying hoping people will believe you? Makes me think that you and Wendy are the same person, and you know what, that makes SOOOOOOOOO much sence.

Lorelei (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 04:57 pm Click here to edit this post
lol again i reiterate - PATHETIC. ha ha ha ha

I'm done with this argument, Josias. I've said what I have to say in response to your post. See you in game.

Jan

SirSmokesAlot (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 08:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Please leave me out of this. Changed my password no one but me is in my account. Ty

Lorelei (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 09:23 pm Click here to edit this post
It was not directed at you, Smokes. I was pointing out her abuse of having access to your account while you were away, thus why I asked you to please change your PW, so as to stop it. Which you did. Ty

Furthermore, if it makes me the 'bad guy', so to speak, to ask that people play fairly....... well don't that just beat all?! lol Just a thought. :-)

Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 06:48 am Click here to edit this post
War continent idea is ok. Like the middle-east right now. Everyone wants their thumb in that pie.
When practicallity is taken into account, its probably impossible to impliment without serious glitches, plus the economy of FB is shallow and mainly focused on war, so the same conditions of play would be difficult to create on each continent.
I agree that FB is a world that people who get the thrill of warfare will flock to, and thus I believe that those who want peaceful and prosperous countries (me included) should be left out of that partially, but then I believe that everyone needs to experience warfare in order to keep with the game and what it is all about.

The WL debate is ridiculous. For people on safe worlds, it is a safe guard to prevent the anarchy experienced on FB.
On FB, it is a pain.

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Here's an idea:
On FB, war levels are ranked differently.
War Level 0- Defensive Index lower than 20.
- New units automatically added every real day.
- Takes 14 days to get to WL1
-This will be run by the system.

War Level 1- Can only be in wars with other Presidents of War Levels 1 or 2.
- Cannot be declared upon by WL2- must declare themselves.

War Level 2- Cannot declare war on WL 1, but can fight them.
-Can declare war on WL 2 &3

War Level 3-Very similar to WL2, only cannot declare on WL 2 or below.
- Can declare war and fight WL 4.

War Level 4- Defensive Index will have topped 80.
- Can declare war on anyone from WL 4+
- Cannot be declared upon by players from WL 5.

War Level 5 and above- Can fight anyone of equal or higher war level.
- War Index will have topped 100.
- Can have war declared against them from any WL from 4-maximum.

PLEASE NOTE:
-->In this design, players who want to graduate from one WL to the next must expand their War Index (WI) by 20. This changes by WL 6 when the gap between the levels is widened significantly.
-WL 0= WI between 0 and 20.
-WL 1= WI between 20 and 40.
-WL 2= WI between 40 and 60.
-WL 3= WI between 60 and 80.
-WL 4= WI between 80 and 100.
-WL 5= WI between 100 and 120.
-WL 6= WI between 120 and 170.*

*= Subject to Change/debate.

---> All help from the GM and automatic gifting of units ends once player reaches WL1.

What do you think?

Homerdome (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
This is a repost from another thread Tom:

Tom, not sure when you started, but, war was always a part of the game, on all worlds. So, you delt with it, you got into a fed that you hoped could protect you, you made enemies and friends, you spied on other feds, you made secret deals, you helped fedmates, you protected yourself the list goes on Tom. It was such a different and exiting game before WL's. Before war levels tom, its not what you would think, Wars didn't happen all the time and thats because it was almost alawys in a cold war, fights did breakout mostly between new commers, rarly did it happen between huge feds. And when i say wars broke out between "People" it happened like maybe 3 or 4 times a month.. on all planets, and large fed maybe once every 2 years. It was the threat of a posible war that was intriguing and much closer to real life then it is now.

Josias (White Giant)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 12:03 pm Click here to edit this post
can i point out when some one gains an advantage, they will complain, and rules will be enforced to counter that. frankly this war game is a exercise in futility


i mean really, you work to gain an advantage, and of course its unfair.

Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 01:36 pm Click here to edit this post
I understand Homerdome the Cold War. And I understand the extreme tension players would have been in to avoid a meltdown in tensions.
I would like to have experienced the game before it became like it is today.
When I'm bored, I troll through posts and try to create solutions which would benefit both parties. And while the game now is but a shadow of what it once was, I guess there is no going back.
I think people should now try to organise wars, maybe to get players experience. Certainly will be a fan when I get enough experience.

Tom Willard

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 03:01 pm Click here to edit this post
I am here a very long period.
I am one of the original developers and was here when the company started.

I agree that the threat of war was an important feature and I also had some worries of my own going in to find out if my country was still there. (We always played countries to find out how it feels).

We have moved to a higher level of protection because if you want people to build up empires and assets they need a level of protection.

maybe it went too far in some cases. For sure, I can now be certain that the countries that are important to me are still there the next morning.

we will however push FB to become a more risky place and increase the incentive for war.
we would like to see what people do with it.

As I already said, we will increase the cost of temporary war protection.

awards are already up and will increase even more.

spending limits are up and the space game makes it possible to build faster by moving products and weapons.

We will also make it easier to start a war against anybody if you are in war level 3 and up.

Depending on the results, we might create war continents on other worlds (suggested by a player), allowing players to move their countries in or out of this continent.

we are studying this option.

These changes will start on FB later this month, first change probably on July 26.

so get yourself ready for war...

Tom Willard

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 03:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Tom Morgan

War levels must depend on your capabilities in fighting, not on your ability to purchase weapons or just be here for some time.

once you have reached war level 3 (at least on FB), you will be able to fight anyone but moving to the next war level will require a war against a C3 country of level 4.

player to player wars can be given away and there is no guarantee of any proven ability.

you don't have to go up the war levels but if you want the war level award gold coins, you must win a war against a country that really fights back and we all know how hard it does.

Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 08:54 pm Click here to edit this post
These changes will start on FB later this month, first change probably on July 26.

so get yourself ready for war...

Trust me I Will, I plan to get that defense past 250 by july 26. You attack me I will come back as a ghost after my country is gone. LOL.

Josias (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 09:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Q, a small point, that you probably already know.

The defense index does not fight wars. Weapons and ammo do. Having the DI and war ranks are nice. Gives you an idea of what your getting into, but rather than set a DI goal for war, you should decide what weapons and ammo you need and have those...

Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 06:55 am Click here to edit this post
Good that changes are occuring. Probably won't give FB a try till I'm confident with the war game.
I understand Tom Willard the stupidity of my idea, I was just thinking of a possible idea to solve this problem and it was rejected.

Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue)

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 07:12 am Click here to edit this post
Heres an idea. Make FB the extreme world. Abolish WLs on FB. Have only 200 countries or so and make them extremely cheap economically and allow populations of over 300 million, so that products can be bought super cheap. People will then buy massive amounts of products and try to ship them to their own worlds via the space program. Due to the inexpensive nature of the world, the number of players vying for land would be huge and war would be persistant.
Then get one of the other worlds and make it similar to what FB is now so that more people are enticed to the war game.


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