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Lorelei (White Giant)
All worlds
05 Oct 2011 23:53Link
I have a question of the Game Master and anyone who knows. Over the course of my playing this game, I have only heard two players claim to have relationships with the Game Master that most of the players do not have. I would like to know if these claims are bogus or true. Either way, it puts forth suspicion over this game.. makes one think there is favoritism, that some players have the advantage over other players by getting inside knowledge ahead of time, etc.
I have been privy to such conversations with SuperSoldier, when I was a member of his federation on FB. His claims were that he receives some sort of monetary kickback and owed thousands of dollars by the GMS, for doing some advertising or such for the game. He also claimed to have multiple conversations with a GM who goes by the name of Karyn who plays under RoboCop, and having multiple conversations on how to better the game, the war engine, etc, and given information coming down the
I have been privy to such conversations with SuperSoldier, when I was a member of his federation on FB. His claims were that he receives some sort of monetary kickback and owed thousands of dollars by the GMS, for doing some advertising or such for the game. He also claimed to have multiple conversations with a GM who goes by the name of Karyn who plays under RoboCop, and having multiple conversations on how to better the game, the war engine, etc, and given information coming down the
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Andy
All worlds
06 Oct 2011 00:56Link
There are no special relations and no private chat or social network connections.
never been any.
Nobody ever talked to Jozi or Tom, or Andy or Jonni and any of the other engineers on MSN or anywhere else except for the organized Jozi chats where everybody was welcome.
None of the engineers who respond to technical issues when they are solved, have ever discussed anything 1 to 1 on MSN or anywhere else.
Everything is by mail.
we do answer mails that are about errors or perceived errors and there are people who communicated with us more than others. Most mails are answered very quickly as everybody who mails us knows.
some very long and complex stories are not answered at all or much later.
Jozi is never involved in answering mails. Some business mails are ending up on his mail account and it happens that one of the gamemasters is logging in and answers a mail from that account.
never been any.
Nobody ever talked to Jozi or Tom, or Andy or Jonni and any of the other engineers on MSN or anywhere else except for the organized Jozi chats where everybody was welcome.
None of the engineers who respond to technical issues when they are solved, have ever discussed anything 1 to 1 on MSN or anywhere else.
Everything is by mail.
we do answer mails that are about errors or perceived errors and there are people who communicated with us more than others. Most mails are answered very quickly as everybody who mails us knows.
some very long and complex stories are not answered at all or much later.
Jozi is never involved in answering mails. Some business mails are ending up on his mail account and it happens that one of the gamemasters is logging in and answers a mail from that account.
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Lorelei (White Giant)
All worlds
06 Oct 2011 03:47Link
Thank you, Andy, for clarifying this. I don't know to what advantage it is for a player to mislead others by making these claims, unless it is, as I said, to purposely boost a game ego or power/self importance within the game. I think it was important that you set the record straight here, and I appreciate your time in answering my post.
All my best,
All my best,
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Laguna
All worlds
06 Oct 2011 12:00Link
Those players are ballooning things up.
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Lynx Highland
All worlds
06 Oct 2011 14:23Link
I wouldn't be so hasty about this problem.
I did try to send a message to Tom Willard and I also heard that Andy and Tom are from the GM person and few other's. As I have been reading about how people discriminate others by trying to make issue more and more problems and not telling the truth on who they really are.
Most of them are fake in my opinion.
This is unfair, especially to the faith-payment players as you mentioned it.
Good luck, that is why I don't contact the GM for any issue. Try it before, didn't work.
Happy gaming.
I did try to send a message to Tom Willard and I also heard that Andy and Tom are from the GM person and few other's. As I have been reading about how people discriminate others by trying to make issue more and more problems and not telling the truth on who they really are.
Most of them are fake in my opinion.
This is unfair, especially to the faith-payment players as you mentioned it.
Good luck, that is why I don't contact the GM for any issue. Try it before, didn't work.
Happy gaming.
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Lynx Highland
All worlds
09 Oct 2011 04:54Link
Well, I'll have to admit this. I did finally get an asnwer from a GM. Some time's they can nice and some time's they can be bad. Every dog has their day and that include's me. My apology to the GM's even though you have the right to make many country's and different name's to you're wish and like's.
Thanks. Lynx.
Thanks. Lynx.
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Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
09 Oct 2011 05:21Link
The GMs are people, and respond the same way we all do to different approaches. Too often players don't understand an aspect of the game - which, let's face it, is extremely complicated - and email the GMs, screaming about 'bugs' and 'unfairness' when the cause of their problem is that they haven't understood a subtle detail in the way the game works.
In my experience, if you treat them with respect, ask questions without presupposing causes, or explain an issue clearly without pointing fingers, they always respond politely, fairly and, if there is a genuine problem, do their best to sort things out. They are also quite happy to explain a complicated aspect to someone who asks to understand and, in the past, have gone as far as to respond with details of algorithm computations to allow people to comprehend the game better.
It may take a few days to get a reply, but this is their job, not their hobby. Someti
In my experience, if you treat them with respect, ask questions without presupposing causes, or explain an issue clearly without pointing fingers, they always respond politely, fairly and, if there is a genuine problem, do their best to sort things out. They are also quite happy to explain a complicated aspect to someone who asks to understand and, in the past, have gone as far as to respond with details of algorithm computations to allow people to comprehend the game better.
It may take a few days to get a reply, but this is their job, not their hobby. Someti
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hymy1 (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Oct 2011 08:42Link
I wouldn't be surprised if you suspicions are true. I can confirm that the account "robocop" has been used by a W3C affiliated person since "way back". Historically W3C has not been above such behavior, and I've seen no reason to believe this has changed.
BTW, Jo Salkilld is a W3C affiliated person, has been for a long time.
BTW, Jo Salkilld is a W3C affiliated person, has been for a long time.
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Andy (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Oct 2011 10:38Link
Robocop is an account used by a W3C engineers for some testing and also the name used for the gamemaster enterprises.
It is also customary on many forums, including this one, to associate respectful and serious players, who makes an effort to understand both sides of the discussion, with the company.
We know Jo Salkilled for a long time and are thankful for many serious contributions and constructive criticism, made by mail and on this forum, that helped fix bugs in the game and also lead to some new features.
It is also customary on many forums, including this one, to associate respectful and serious players, who makes an effort to understand both sides of the discussion, with the company.
We know Jo Salkilled for a long time and are thankful for many serious contributions and constructive criticism, made by mail and on this forum, that helped fix bugs in the game and also lead to some new features.
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Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
09 Oct 2011 16:20Link
Ok hymy. Last time it was funny. Now your obsession with me is starting to get creepy.
af-fil-i-ate v.tr. To associate (oneself) as a subordinate, subsidiary, employee, or member.
I am not 'affiliated' to W3C and the only association I have with them is that I pay them to play this game, just like every other paying player. I email them if I perceive a problem, or if I want to understand the detail of an aspect of the game, and any other player is free to do the same. If W3C listen to me more than other players, it is because I do so in the way that is "respectful and serious". That is why I recommended that others adopt a similar approach with them.
However, Jan began this thread by asking if any of the players have a relationship with the GMs that other players do not / can not have - one which gives them an unfair advantage. You'll note that Jan did not include my name in
af-fil-i-ate v.tr. To associate (oneself) as a subordinate, subsidiary, employee, or member.
I am not 'affiliated' to W3C and the only association I have with them is that I pay them to play this game, just like every other paying player. I email them if I perceive a problem, or if I want to understand the detail of an aspect of the game, and any other player is free to do the same. If W3C listen to me more than other players, it is because I do so in the way that is "respectful and serious". That is why I recommended that others adopt a similar approach with them.
However, Jan began this thread by asking if any of the players have a relationship with the GMs that other players do not / can not have - one which gives them an unfair advantage. You'll note that Jan did not include my name in
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Lorelei (White Giant)
All worlds
10 Oct 2011 04:16Link
Hymy1,
Never once have I ever thought or ever heard that Jo has such an affiliation with W3C. I started this game playing with Jo and WGC and never once was that hinted or even suggested. So, Hymy1, I don't know who you are, but I think you are out of line here and have no substantial basis for your statement.
As for my initial post, I asked this of the GMs because the two players I mentioned above (supersoldier and wildeyes) have stated these associations quite openly and numerous times. They state these false claims to anyone who will foolishly believe them. Therefore, I thought it important that the record be set straight, because frankly, they are a big part of the problem and why "conspiracy" theories even exist.
I told someone just recently. You want to know why I think 'so in so' plays multi accounts and what not and this and that? Why is because they have said so in PMs to myself and othe
Never once have I ever thought or ever heard that Jo has such an affiliation with W3C. I started this game playing with Jo and WGC and never once was that hinted or even suggested. So, Hymy1, I don't know who you are, but I think you are out of line here and have no substantial basis for your statement.
As for my initial post, I asked this of the GMs because the two players I mentioned above (supersoldier and wildeyes) have stated these associations quite openly and numerous times. They state these false claims to anyone who will foolishly believe them. Therefore, I thought it important that the record be set straight, because frankly, they are a big part of the problem and why "conspiracy" theories even exist.
I told someone just recently. You want to know why I think 'so in so' plays multi accounts and what not and this and that? Why is because they have said so in PMs to myself and othe
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Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
10 Oct 2011 04:52Link
Thanks Jan.
Hugs and respect
Jo
Hugs and respect
Jo