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Sim- Vote: Remove the limit on exchanging gold coins (Fearless Blue)

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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 12:25Link
Official Simcountry Exclusive Vote

Subject: Remove the limit on exchanging gold coins

Theres a limit in place where if "ANY" nation or CEO are in debt players are blocked out from the exchange markets. This means they cannot trade cash or GC. This is a grave mistake, most players in debt need to trade GC to get the cash to go out of debt, but because they are in debt they are blocked from the markets. I would like to ask the GM to remove this feature and allow countries in debt to trade GC for cash on the direct market.

The line in red is not true. This was discussed in chat with Supersoldier when he raised this issue a while ago.

Jozi or Tommi already explained this in some game news some time ago.

Players can Always exchange coins for cash, whenever you need the cash. The new popup from the country screen even allows y
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 18:32Link
Wendy Wendy.
Someone/somewhere you where mislead on this function let me help you better understand this feature.

The safety feature the GM added only give you the bare minimum you need.
Lets say your 500B in the negative cash with 1T in loans. The game will ONLY offer you 500B to bring you into the green but that still leaves 1T loans, plus in the case of new players they will need spend it building an econ. This drives them into more debt without the chance for them to pay off the loan. Along with the constant reminder makes they fell worthless thous driving them away(this is been the case several time) A person sitting on a bomb saying "DEBT" isn't the best way to help a new player out. Point i was trying to get was that they either need to put the market back up to players in debt OR increase the cash for GC they give to cover the HOLE debt. It would be much more helpful if they offered cash to cover the hole "d
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 19:24Link
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 20:25Link
You can gripe at how you don't like a feature, or that particular feature.

You can have any amount of debt and still cash GC in for SC cash to pay any amount of debt you owe.

This keeps players honest.

Your narrow view on the subject in no way changes that.

Having debt that locks you from the cash market in no way stops you from exchanging GC to into cash to settle that debt in order to access the other features available on the cash market.

I know it can be hard to understand complex features but this is so very basic Super, even you should understand. You do, and you only want to rack up debt, and still be able to exchange cash you have on hand for GCs for extensions and pop purchases. The idea as usual with you is totally self serving and you really convinced yourself that you are educating anyone but yourself.

1 + 1 = 3 according to super. Right....
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 20:35Link
If you are going to try and pretend to be intelligent you can't type stuff like

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This drives them into more debt without the chance for them to pay off the loan.

Players always have the option to pay off debt. Any amount of it. After they square up when the portal locks them out, they can go to the country and go to finance/loans/loans you received/pay off marked loans

Yes Super, you are so smart and everyone else soooo stupid.
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
08 Feb 2012 20:38Link
The smartest thing you did was go into perma-war protection.

What is someone with a main with 2 quadtrillion complaining about a few trillions holding them from opening a country. Pay the debt off and keep it moving. You're whining over this like some n00b with no money. Even the n00bs have not complained.

Because there is nothing to complain about here.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
10 Feb 2012 16:23Link
The real headache is that you have to hunt down the loans to pay them off before the system lets you trade cash for GCs, AND then there's a long delay between paying them off and when they update the page to lift the restriction. In the meantime, a single country or enterprise can slip into back debt, and you're stuck again.

It would be SO MUCH BETTER if you were offered the ability to pay them all off on one screen, AND if they updated it immediately. Sometimes the issue with a country is low pop, or renewal of a registration, which you cant do with cash, only GCs.
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
10 Feb 2012 23:52Link
I agree with the payoff all loans from a single screen. This is a problem, but not with what Super is attempting to imply.

I had the very same problem loki. The solution, is not allowing yourself to get in the habit of carrying loans. Especially when you know you want to exchange cash for coins.

Really, why should the game allow you to exchange coins for any purpose while you are carrying any debt?

If you hold debt, you shouldn't be allowed to exchange for coins.

As soon as I stopped carrying loans, I stopped having this problem.

When the game blocks you from entering your enterprise or country, it reminds you that you have an excess amount of debt. The system will not block you over 20B or even 1 trillion for that matter. It makes you pay the debt. This is a good thing. In the last month alone I have exchanged a ton of cash for another ton of coins. I went through each of my countries and enterprises and
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Crafty

All worlds
12 Feb 2012 21:26Link
There is a pay all loans option isn't there?
Go to loans, inspect loans, payback loans, and bingo!!! you can pay as many off as you like in one go (providing you have the money). There is a small fee for paying off loans early. Maybe an immediate system recognition would be nice, but tbh I though you could buy again straight away, its only the cash market that takes time. Check the polls, I thought there was a vote for this last bit, if not, start one, if there was then email GM for update.