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Automatic Selling of products to raise cash (Golden Rainbow)

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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
10 Apr 2012 15:15Link
This has too be the last straw automatic selling of your weapons and ammo to raise the cash needed if your country is running short ie a temp measure sell off your assets and the problem is still there when those funds run out wtf
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Laguna

All worlds
10 Apr 2012 15:31Link
See!?!
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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
10 Apr 2012 15:31Link
ive been collecting weapons for ten real years a lot of expense and time this together with the recent fiancial changes is the worst updates i have ever seen the game appears ruined
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Andy

All worlds
10 Apr 2012 18:16Link
You cant have millions of missiles and
-2.000.000.000 in construction.

just purchase the construction units and there will be no problem.

The issue here is that some countries are just bankrupt.

If they have no cash and huge shortages and the total value of their materials and cash + loans is negative what do you call it?

so there is a possibility to just bankrupt the country, remove and reset or try to save it.

the numbers are very small. These are players who did not login into these countries for some time
and in fact have already given them up.

Instead of canceling them which will move some debt to another country they do play, they just leave them there.

If the player does not login and fix it by himself, the country will either be saved by the sale of assets or bankrupted.

we used to bankrupt countries in the past when they had smaller problems.

We probably
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Steven Ryan

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 02:34Link
Countries are going bankrupt because of the new changes compenstate everyone and fix the problem not take everyones assetts as well so they also become defenceless after years of hard work
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Steven Ryan

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 02:35Link
i regulary log in but i aint spending anymore money on somthing thats broken
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Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 03:14Link
True :(

Andy, you have already admitted that wars are far too expensive. Large countries at war requires LARGE LARGE LARGE weapons active.

Under such scenario, the country will lose hundreds of billions every single game month simply because the "Total Defense Cost" are super high. In the worst scenario being on LU world... you could end losing >2-2.5 Trillions per real day.

With your latest changes, reducing our game-month country profit, this is just worst.

There is no point in using 100 gold coins to buy a couple trillions game cash, go to war and cross-fingers trying to conquer your enemy in two days tops before you run out of cash and your WEAPONS begin to be sold to gain game cash you will lose again in one or two game months.

Numbers are proportional to the player size. It's not something that only affect large countri
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 03:29Link
Auto sales should only occur after loans are exhausted.
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Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 03:36Link
However,

I still think you keep trying to patch gaps instead of solving from root.


Negative resources quantities HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GAME CASH.

Take a look at my main on White Giant (The Punisher).


Currently I have a negative quantity of Military Services of -20,777,934,465.
Where the surplus for such product is......
-13,200,691,548

Yeah I know, my country demands more quantity than the world as a whole can offer, I rock hahaha, no, really it sucks and something is wrong.

"The Punisher" has more than 6T in cash for weeks already and I still have negative numbers on Military Services.
The same was happening with Aircraft Fuel... and it got solved only when I dismantle around 300 Air Transport Units.


Point is, if I happen to have negative Cash on this country, you will start (starting April 17) t
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Andy

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 09:51Link
Recent changes reduced negative results in any country that had larger cost than income.

This is very clear on all worlds as the cost of everything went down a lot.

War is expensive but recent changes have reduced the cost of weapons, ammunition, reduced the numbers of weapons lost in war and thus the cost of war went down a lot.

Nobody bankrupted as a result of our changes and any claim otherwise is simply untrue. we will wait to hear the name of such a country and world.

We advise anyone making such claims to immediately include some specific names or otherwise the claim sounds empty.

Big wars are and will remain expensive though, and there is no way to finance a 5.000.000 army with the income of a single country and fight wars.

Shortages of products in countries can have several reasons.

1. The country is not buying automatically and the player just stopped buying the product.
2. The cou
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Andy

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 10:13Link
Nicolas,
you have a spending space problem in this country with 290M people.
we will solve it but you will need to place orders for these services and close the gap.
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Andy

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 10:24Link
Steven,

I just checked to find these bankrupted countries and you account is doing great.
despite a huge army and thousands of Ts in military assets, none of the countries is even close to bankruptcy.

You also have a very large empire on GR and as a result, very high government cost.

Your 2 enterprises are making a lot of profit and compensate for nearly all the losses caused by the huge armies.

please give some data on where you see these bankruptcies.
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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 11:26Link
Anthrax on lu debt -5,600.00B SC$
Botulism on lu debt -6,890.00B SC$
Creed on lu debt -9,320.00B SC$
Don on lu debt -5,200.00B SC$
Hitman on lu debt -8,050.00B SC$
Striker on lu debt -7,540.00B SC$
Vendetta on lu debt -6,690.00B SC$
don on fb debt -6,480.00B SC$
Anthrax on gr -4,632.00B SC$
Garrotte on gr -5,467.00B SC$
Hectors Dream on gr -7,625.00B SC$
Hitman on gr -10,485.00B SC$
When you look into the abyss on gr 7,560.00B
Soul Collector on gr -3,440.00B SC$

theres around 75 trillion in debt when before the changes i was in surplus plus i have put around 40 trillion back into these countries and they still continue to decline
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Steven Ryan

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 11:29Link
my enterprise sith on gr debt of 1,020.00B
my enterprise on lu surplus of 2,622.11B i find it hard to belive my enterprise are holding up the ship with a 70 to a hundred plus trillion shortfall
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Andy

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 12:25Link
You have two enterprises making more than 300B per game month.

You have now more countries than before, 13 in one empire and 10 in another. I checked the history.
this increased your gov. cost by about 40%.
reduce to under 10 countries and it will much lower. probably will eliminate any losses.
Government cost is extremely high in those two empires, despite a significant reduction as you can see in the history graphs.

also, you have increased your army, and although cost has been reduced, you keep huge armies. the value of weapons and ammunition is in many cases several hundreds Trillions per country. (after a significant reduction in their price.)

Keeping such huge armies is a choice you made and it costs.

In the countries I looked at, cost of government was at least twice the country loss. The cost of government + the military amounted to more than 70% of the total cost.

The account can
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Laguna

All worlds
11 Apr 2012 22:58Link
Then sell the weapons only and leave the ammo for last.

Also, what is the sale strategy the game is using?
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Andy

All worlds
12 Apr 2012 09:33Link
We will probably take a couple of percents of everything and sell it at market price.

the number of cases is small.
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Steven Ryan

All worlds
12 Apr 2012 11:05Link
i dont wont my stuff touched that i have paid for what if im on holidays auto matic selling of asset never heard of it u dont see countries in real life selling their weapons to get out of debt wtf
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Crafty

All worlds
12 Apr 2012 13:17Link
Actually Steven, you do. The UK is a prime example, selling off military, cancelling contracts for new stuff etc. LMAO, Gordon Brown even sold our gold reserves off at less than 1/2 their value to raise cash.

Do you really want your country like N.Korea where the citizens are starving, have no infrastructure and generally live a shitty existence so the country can keep a massive military?
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Steven Ryan

All worlds
12 Apr 2012 13:19Link
yes im not into the new world order and everthing was fine until of late so why do i have too double pay