State corps: how good are you at it?

Just out of interest and to know what to strive for: what's the highest, continuos profit you have achieved in a state corporation? (recent examples, please)

1.4 - 1.5 B/Mnth

WHAT!! HOW

Before welfare/salaries updates i ran 1100-1200 salaries/151% production and made just about 2B a month

Supersoldier I've been recently told running those salaries will make your government costs increase for some weird undisclosed reason. But I'd say my best one atm is 420M at 1000 salary or 750M at 680 salary. As the contribution high salaries make to government expenses are immensely valueable I decided to include them

It's not undisclosed AFAIK. GOvernment salaries are supposed to be no less than half the average worker salaries.

But thanks for the various answers.

I'm actually a bit surprised that the best results aren't higher! I'm still upgrading all my companies and salaries are somewhat low, so I was hoping the potential profit with everything optimised would be much higher.

At the present time my corps make about 0.3 B in profit in average. Only one of the 27 runs a deficit (you guessed it: defense industry ftl!)

I run 300 best income ATM.

550 is the max. 1000+ used to be profitable but the GM said it wasn't realistic, not that SC has ever been based on realisum

275 - 300 yes. But as Drew says, there are other advantages of higher salaries such as income tax, contributions to IFs etc, more payment to health and ed and so on.

There's only a few corp types I can make pay over 1B/month regularly.

Pretty sure IF contributions mean shit since they divided the IF interest by twelve. I think it would take you like 17 real years or something to recoup each dollar that goes into the investment fund.
Pension contributions mean nothing as well since they capped that at $10T.

So last I checked, tax income and health/edu contributions accounted for maybe half of salaries. Figure it could be anything now.

I don't remember any math terms, but the point where the (increase in corp salary + increase in govt salary - increase in tax/contributions - increase in corp profit) equals zero is the point where you want to stop increasing salaries... before then you want to continue increasing salaries. Moral of the story is that there is one perfect salary level for any corporation.

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Hmmm, doesn't a higher contribution to the IF mean it has more cash it can lend to the world bank to get a higher interest payment, or more cash to use on buying/selling shares for a profit.

Pensions, yep, no effect on anything. I presume they will mean something eventually.

PS. wasn't mizore one of Darkekatts pseudonyms scarlet? Or have I got myself confused there.

Yes, it is our beloved Kat. Hey girl!

Oh, and relative to the topic, I'm awesome at it.

My best corporation -Grandmas Bread- is running at -
income 2,792.53M SC$ / cost 1,696.23M SC$

My salaries at- 250
Welfare index - 98
Quality and Effectivity -200

Havnt been playing for long so i am no expert .

Beginners Income Booster 20,116.67M SC$
Profit / Shortage 19,478.52M SC$

So im still not running at a profit yet .

Crafty, may not want to confuse "better" with "good" (or rather "more" with "a lot").

As an analogy, putting money in the IF is now like investing $100 in something that pays out $1 per year. After 1,000 years, it's earned 10x the initial value sure, but you'll be dead before it makes enough to pay off the initial investment.

Let me put it this way:
Attach a timescale of how long you still expect to be around for, say 2 real years. The value of each dollar that goes into the IF is (earning ratio after 2 years * tax/contribution[health/edu] ratio of income) Say we average the tax/contribution ratio to 50%, which should be around what it is last I checked. Now the IF earnings after 2 real years is .02% per day or 14.6% of investment after 2 years... so that money you'll see is 7.3% of what goes into the IF. Now, the contributions into the IF don't seem to exceed

Mizore,

your text is confusing and not relevant at all.
Nobody puts money into the investment funds and their role in the game is currently very limited.
they cost you nothing so why all the fuss.

IFs are also contributing little to the income of people. It is a fraction of the total income and whatever is added, is spent on the market and not necessarily in your country. Interest should in fact be zero as the cash they have is not loaned to anybody.

The main function of the IF is to create a share market that is large enough to prevent some of the possible manipulations that are possible in a small market.

We have published before that there are plans to give the funds a larger role but we need to restructure them before and this is now slowly taking place.

I also do not see where some cap of 10T comes from there is no cap on any of the funds.

Andy, the audacity of your statements never ceases to amaze me. Keep up the good work.

Well, at least it was crystal clear.

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The pension fund?

Anyway, I was just stating that IF contribution was an advantage of higher salaries which it seems it still is, though very slight. This among other advantages.

I was wondering why Drews strategy had failed because, as he tells it, it is the same strategy that proved very successful for an old player named 'Quaxocal'. Some of you may remember his achievements, and any member of GREF should know of him. I dunno, but it just seems another option removed from the experimental player, the game is far more biased to one style of play only. If someone were smart enough to write a bot then the game would be all but over.

And welcome back Klar, you sexy beast you.

Dear Andrew,

I have to agree with Mizore. Your rebuttal post came across to me as rather harsh in your use of the word "irrelevant." I would have even taken offense to that. From a public relations standpoint, your advice and corrective comments should come across in a more constructive and respectful manner. I am degreed in Communications, with many years of Public Relations experience. I know it to be a public relations "no-no" to tell anyone (your customers) that what they spent time to post is "irrelevent" even if in your opinion it is irrelevent....get what I'm saying? Word choice is key. I'm not sure that you meant it to come across this way, but since these are words on a screen, and we are unable to hear voice inflections, one can mistakenly take offense at something not meant to be offensive. I think every post on topic is relevant even if someone may not be "accurate" in their knowled

Ban her Andy, ban her.

She called you harsh and offensive. And further, she accuses you of being unconstructive and disrespectful!

I wouldn't stand for it Andy, no sir, no way.

Crafty cowpat-flinging cockney.

I also welcome you back, Klar, you sexy beast, you!!!!! :P I hope, Klar, now that you are back that you can inspire Crafty to revisit Chat and get the old chatroom alive again? I've tried, but I dun have your charisma, or the long-standing friendships you have in the game.

Crafty, dun make me fling a shoe at your head or Andy's head for that matter, either!!!! lol I called him "Andrew" that's my endearment name for Andy. SCOWLS AT CRAFTY!!!!! (I think Crafty is trying to "off" me!) ha ha ha

Andy, dun you listen to old man, Crafty. You listen to Lorelei. Muahs!

There was no intention to be harsh or rude.
I am sorry if it sounded so.

Some issues are being discussed here with incomplete knowledge of the real facts. Some times the discussion can become complex while the underlying issue is of very limited value in the game. This is why relevance came in.
We are probably to blame for it although many times the info is available but remains unread.

I tend to make very clear statements. I am not giving my opinion but rather explain the facts.
Such clear statements can be interpreted as rude but the intention is to be 100% clear, not rude.

Also, the 10T in the pension funds is a minimum, not a maximum.
It seems that nearly none of these funds is able to increase its holdings above 10T. This means that 10T is probably too high to be considered a minimum.

we will check the numbers and may drop the minimum and allow these funds drift to the "True" value.