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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 10:36 am  Hello I am SweetPea. Many of you remember me as Psycho_Honey. Other know me by my real name which is Wendy. Since Jack Septic had to leave the NLUO due to his own convictions, I am now taking his place as Secretary of State. I will be doing things a bit differently than Jack did previously. I am your new Liaison to the New Little Upsilon Order. As I understand it, many of you are curious, others are skeptical and maybe even a bit suspicious. I am here to address your concerns, whatever they may be. I ask that you keep your questions short and to the point and easy enough to answer in a simple way. So as not to create a thread of essay posts. It is my understanding that there have been quite a few misconceptions posted about this organization. I am here to assure all non members of LU and other communities thinking of joining the world of Little Upsilon that the NLUO is not some secretive sinister organization. The NLUO is an inclusive, democratic, and well needed organization to promote and stimulate player interaction and to foster a state of robust growth for the world of Little Upsilon. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to post here and I will respond as soon as humanly possible. Regards, SweetPea NLUO Secretary Of State
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:32 pm Do the NLUO intend to interfere in any manner with players who opt out of their govt system?
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:53 pm Although I would like you to be more specific on any manner, I will try to answer your question. "Not that I am aware of." Of course there will be circumstances that would have to be taken into account on a case by case basis. The NLUO is not an aggressive organization. Players can opt in or out without fear of reprisal.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:07 pm Any manner, any manner whatsoever. No ifs buts or exceptions. As secretary of state, "not that I am aware of" is not an answer at all. A yes or no answer will suffice thankyou madam secretary.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:25 pm I will refer you back to my closing remarks then Crafty.
I hope this closes the matter.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:42 pm Why is Stephen Ryan, a well-known, aggressive, and prolific asset raider, your Secretary of Defense if the intention is not to use the organization as an excuse to asset raid players? Why are you, someone with a history of making excuses to asset raid players, the Secretary of State if the intention is not to use the organization as an excuse to asset raid players? What wars is this organization designed to prevent given that two of its leading members are themselves responsible for a majority of the wars against other players on LU in recent history?
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:58 pm Madam secretary. You requested concise, precise inquiries. You seem unable to answer my question. I ask another question: Is there any point to asking questions of you if you cannot answer them in a straight manner?
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 02:27 pm I'll be out for a few hours and will respond to your questions when I return.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 03:21 pm Why do the Secretaries think that because they are Secretaries, they can declare on whoever, whenever they want? I didn't sign up to be a pawn. I signed up to improve my country.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 03:45 pm After this appointment im regarding this as a declaration of war on me by the NLUO.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 03:50 pm I quote: "Why do the Secretaries think that because they are Secretaries, they can declare on whoever, whenever they want? " I will answer as I am a real life Secretary at the executive level: BECAUSE I CAN! AND YOU WILL LIKE IT! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 06:35 pm Brother Gaz. Not to Worry. Secretary Wendy has made it clear that we are not an aggressive organization, but if you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk. I am sure Secretary Wendy will not Arbitrarily attack you. But If you consider this to be a declaration of war on you, then that is your right, but we have not officially declared anything.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:49 pm Im sure she has Hezzy. Take my advice, trust nothing she says. She's a lair. A good 1 though so be on your toes. Hezzy your allied to my enemy so what am I to do? I have no choice but to take you as a threat to me.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:50 pm
Because the NLUO is an inclusive organization. The NLUO does not Judge or dictate how players play or should play at this time. Steven Ryan is a member of the NLUO. His actions were of his own accord, and within reason given the threats and posts being made by Crafty and Josias. Those players were using war rhetoric. It seems that Steven Ryan answered the call of one half of the two mentioned. Next question.
Redundant question. I'm not sure why you asked the same question twice. Your statements and accusations have nothing to do with the NLUO. Next question.
Well, the NLUO is certainly not designed to prevent wars started by external instigators. And although the NLUO has many goals, like preventing wars, the NLUO is still a growing work in progress and will not realistically be able to accomplish all it has set out to do in the near term. Get serious. Next question.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:52 pm
No one really cares what you consider. The NLUO has not declared on you. You can take anything how you want to. Bottom line is, no one cares.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:03 pm They will.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:10 pm I know you dont care wendy because you wont loose nothing. Hezzy remember that. She risks nothing whilst she paints a big target on your back.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:11 pm Yea, it is all my fault lmao...
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:28 pm Brother Gaz, If you would just alley with us, and stop fighting us, it will be better for all parties. I will not attack you if you attack with a war dec. I will not pass an executive order. Although rumors of war is not a good thing to bring to the table because there are members who will dec just on the rumor of threat. I think you could be a valuable asset to this government because you said your self you brought a lot of players into the game. we could use that mind of yours in our growth. I hope you hear reason Brother Gaz.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:48 pm @ Wendy's quote: "Because the NLUO is an inclusive organization. The NLUO does not Judge or dictate how players play or should play at this time. Steven Ryan is a member of the NLUO. His actions were of his own accord, and within reason given the threats and posts being made by Crafty and Josias. Those players were using war rhetoric. It seems that Steven Ryan answered the call of one half of the two mentioned. Next question." My Response: I think Wendyloo, that the NLUO is doing just that in this instance - dictating to others. Please explain this statement to me and please point out how this is not dictating.... "The NLUO governs all of LU." This is what Hezzy is telling players like Josias, Mizore, and Crafty. This is what is upsetting them. You think Blueserpent would not be opposed???? He would say "F... Off". ha ha ha ha Just saying. I'm curious, because you are an independent player. Does the NLUO govern you???? I think it is wrong for new players to be misled into thinking that if they join LU that they will be "governed" by the NLUO. I don't see this in any of the Sim Rules about that world. You have not been present for the discussions in chat. I have. I advised Hezzy that his "word choices" are what is stirring up players' passions and opposition. The message I'm getting from the NLUO is they want to war. Hezzy left players the other night, that the opposers' concerns would be considered. It was followed by a war dec. Well so much for diplomacy! The NLUO is NOW coming across that they want domination of LU. You KNOW that players will have issue with this. This is as bad as what I campaigned so heavily against by the Wild & Co group. Bullies! I was actually in favor of such an effort as the NLUO was promoting, but I think some lines have been crossed. I am now leaning towards this being a decided effort to create havoc on this world and to stir up some war. Not that I'm opposed to that. We need some excitement. But if this is a serious endeavor, The NLUO is coming across tyrannical and probably needs to rethink some things. I personally at this time would not support it. Also, why is Steven Ryan acting on his own if the NLUO is a cohesive effort? Again, I am confused. To Gaz: Who are you? I dun respect "old" players coming back under new names and attacking. At least have the ummmmmmm "balls" to say who you are. Only then would I put any stock into what you say. Just saying.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:03 pm You asked too many questions at once. Can you point out which of the 3 are most important to you, or start back with the most important, and after I respond, reply with the next important one and so on. It would make the q&a much easier to follow.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:08 pm Question 1: Please explain this statement to me and please point out how this is not dictating.... "The NLUO governs all of LU." This is what Hezzy is telling players like Josias, Mizore, and Crafty. This is what is upsetting them.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:10 pm Question 2: Is the NLUO not a cohesive effort? If so, then how can Steven Ryan decide on his own to issue war decs?
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:12 pm Kiss of death im not some returning player you's all know hiding under a different name. I dont know any of you's from before. The only name I reconise from the last time I played is Laguna. Other than that you's are all new to me. You decide what you like I couldnt really care to much. Obviously it be nice to have your respect but I wont loose any sleep over it. Gaz
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:16 pm Questions 3a, b and c Given attempts at diplomacy the other night in chat with Josias and Mizore and Hezzy's alluding to that some agreement would be forthcoming... a. Were discussions presented to all of NLUO? b. Was there a vote that was agreed on by the majority of the NLUO for this war declaration? I am rather concerned that Hezzy alludes to an agreement of sorts and then just hours later a war dec was issued. Seems inconsistent with the impression I was left with the other evening. c. Who all voted Yes to war and which of the nations voted No?
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:22 pm
"The NLUO governs all of LU." This would be the vision of the founder of NLUO. It is an admirable vision. There is a need for more cooperation of players within LU to make for a more interesting and interactive game. Players on LU will ultimately decide on participating internally and voicing their opinions and using the government to expand their ideas on a global platform. Or they will choose to participate outside of it, either from a neutral standpoint, or by taking an adversarial decision. What upsets certain players outside of the government is of little to no concern to the government itself, for the government reserves the right to pursue its own objectives without regard to how non-members 'feel' about certain aspects of the NLUO. If any player wants to be heard by or influence the government, then perhaps they should join, and make their mark on the way the government is run in the way that participating NLUO members do.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:26 pm
There is a process for declaring war within the government. To my knowledge, this was brought up and almost initiated. However Steven Ryan declared on Josias because he chose to. Not because he was ordered to. All members of the NLUO reserve the right to protect themselves at all times. And the Hydra thread qualifies as a valid reason fr Steven Ryan to declare war, because the Organization he is a part of, was threatened, and perhaps he felt threatened himself.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:31 pm
To begin, Josias never initiated any form of diplomacy. He attempted to dictate to the government how it would act and tried to force compliance through threats of violence. So therefore this is not a valid question.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:31 pm
The span in which discussions took place publicly and privately on the forums and/or chat did not realistically allow for every single member to be informed about the events as they were happening in real time. Players do not always log in at the same time and there are other factors that you I know are well aware of. As many as were present and reading the forums were likely involved in any internal discussions about what may or may not have taken place.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:34 pm
This is information privy to members of the government. I cannot confirm nor deny any of what you ask.
Again, this is information privy to members of the government, and for obvious security reasons, the results of any vote which may or may not have taken place cannot be shared outside the government membership.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:35 pm Gaz is Blueserpent, End of story... not that anyone cares. Just pointing out the obvious.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:41 pm Ok then im blueserpent.
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:46 pm Duh...
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 10:39 pm Wendy, Gaz is not Blueserpent. Where did you get this notion???? How is this obvious? I know Rob well, how he chats, how he talks, everything about him. This is not he. If it is, I would be very surprised. Dunno why I feel a need to defend him. lol
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| Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 10:48 pm Thank you for answering my questions, Wendyloo. I dunno if I agree wif everything, but that is what makes Simcountry so great! I'm not sure if I am still sure about things or if I agree with the vision of governing an entire world. I suppose it will end up people counterring if they dun agree. I just hope that people keep the drama "game" and not make personal attacks. I hate seeing this. :-( Well things should be interesting for a while on LU. My best to you all!
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 12:55 am Question: People still war in this game?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 01:06 am Question: Is this war going to spread into the other planets, or is it staying on LU?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 02:36 am This is perhaps the most boring thread in history.
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 03:01 am .......why must you burst my bubble?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 03:57 pm Tom is perhaps the most boring player EVER in SC history. That guy that logs in once and never logged in again is running a close second. So Tom how goes Simnations or whatever they call it? Must not be too great since you ended up back here lamer than ever, huh? I guess the grass isn't always greener on the other side after all?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:01 pm Tallisibeth, The NLUO would like to prevent wars like this in future and as a principle. However, naturally, we cannot predict when instigators will force a player's hand. Also, the NLUO does not extend past the realm of Little Upsilon. Therefore we cannot comment on the possibility of any wars on other worlds. Although I would venture to guess the answer is no.
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:22 pm Lis, It isn't the NLUO that you have to fear.... It is I, KISS OF DEATH, that you need to fear. *giggles :P It was great to have you stop by chat last night. Come back more often!!!!
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:36 pm Excellent piece of spin there Wendy, I congratulate you. There you have showed your mastery of the skill, especially your reply 1. In fact, 1 is not really spin, it's a genuine point. And there is no Brit sarcasm intended there. Now the other points...I call for some transparency in the govts decision making process before I could possibly make an informed decision to ally my nations with it or not. The NLUO legislature is in the public domain. It declares there will be a set process before any war is declared. Was this process followed, or is the legislature not worth the paper it is written on. The NLUO published this legislature, will it now say that it abides by it or not. Agreed, the NLUO has the right to keep individual members voting preference a secret, but if it desires to do this, then the voting process needs to be independantly monitored and verified. Madam secretary, you say Mr. Steve Ryan has the right to defend himself if he feels threatened, indeed he does. But is not the ideology of the NLUO to solve international disputes with diplomacy hence bringing peace and prosperity to LU. As a member of NLUO, Mr. Ryan should have bought his fears up to the executive of NLUO where all avenues of diplomacy should have been explored. Secondly, a vote of the members of the NLUO should have been taken with Mr. Ryan agreeing to abide by the final decision. Isn't that what your legislation requires? The testament of some NLUO members is that this process wasn't followed. So, do NLUO abide by their own legislation or is it actually a free for all with only a few of the heirarchy benefitting, maybe at the expense of other members who are not so influencial? Do the NLUO agree to have independant verification and monitoring of it's voting process to assure all members and non-members of it's adherence to it's own rules. I only ask this to avoid another rogue federation forming to the detriment of the game as a whole, in particular players on LU. If the motives of the NLUO are genuinely what they are stated to be then surely this would be seen by the whole of LU as proof of their good intentions, leading to no more suspicion or hostility. I am sure that this is what NLUO desire. Who knows, the federations of The FED and DNAliens may be convinced to support NLUO intentions. Lastly, do the NLUO reserve the right to use nuclear and biological weapons to ensure it's authority, or will they publicly state their opposition to their use. In other words, how peaceful are they really in pursuit of their utopian vision for LU? The ball is in NLUO court as far as persuading the players of LU of their peaceful, cooperative growth of LU. From your track record, you will probably say that NLUO dont give a tinkers cuss about persuading non-members. I request you to think again, look at all the arguements and their causes, only the Executives of NLUO can direct it in the right diretion. Use your powers of persuasion and arguement to make NLUO work like it was originally intended, with noble ambitions. President Crafty. Central Scrutinizer. Chairman of TheFED. Chairman of DNAliens. Several time HOF member. Several time member of the security council of LU.
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:48 pm Dang..........CRAFTY!!! You are like my real life boss!!! So many danged titles. :P
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:50 pm LOL, they are just my game titles... Hey, question: If you are an earl and you get an OBE, do you become an earlobe?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:03 pm Crafty, I have to spend like 5 whole minutes dissecting that post in order to respond to it. Yeah a whole 5 minutes! Are you aware of how many empires and ceos worth of maintenance I have to do when I log in? I can't make a full time job of it. But ok... here we go....
The NLUO reserves the right to keep any matter secret it chooses to. Any matters that are disclosed to the public will be the result of an INTERNAL decision to disclose such matters and not a moment sooner. Regarding voting and independent verification: This is a decision that would be made by the NLUO, again, INTERNALLY and not a moment sooner. Why do you presume to think you can dictate how another group conducts affairs? This makes no sense to me. Has the NLUO or any other organization in this game ever told you how you will or should run the FED, and to make your internal issues public, and that someone outside the organization should monitor your votes? You weren't really serious were you?
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Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:10 pm
In short, again you begin to presume to know what must or must not be done in order for President Ryan to defend himself. Ultimately, this is his right regardless of how even the NLUO feels about it. And more importantly, this goes back to the accusation that the NLUO is forcing itself on Presidents. Clearly that is not the case because even though the NLUO would prefer a diplomatic resolution to any armed conflict, the NLUO cannot Force President Ryan, or President Orbiter to lay down any arms, call off any wars, or any other action that is the will of the individual player. The NLUO is not 'forcing' itself on any President. Member or non-member. Furthermore, the NLUO has not declared war on anyone. Diplomacy was offered to Josias by myself in person while in chat face to face and he flat out rejected the idea stating, "I'm looking forward to this fight" or something along those lines. I could dig for the log, but I'm knee deep in answering your post. There is no testament by any NLUO members to the contrary, I am not sure what you mean by that.
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Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:15 pm
The NLUO is a democratic organization, in times of emergency, I am sure improvisation will have to take precedence. At the time of this recent commotion, the Government was not filled, there were vacant posts and the real time speed of deteriorating relations between the supposed "hydra" actors and the NLUO may or may not have allowed for normal procedures to be followed. As with any new upstart, processes and procedures will be formed as the NLUO makes every attempt to cover its' bases. Bottom line is, it will be sorted out internally and discussed likewise internally and not carried out in the public arena. As is the norm for any other organization that ever existed like ... ever.
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Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:17 pm
How is it that you and you alone Crafty have left your position as an equal partner with all other Presidents on LU and elevated yourself to a position where you can determine what organization or federation is or is not "rogue" at your sole discretion?
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Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:19 pm
The NLUO is not a military organization. This was never the ideal nor the outcome hoped for. however the NLUO should be full of members that reserve the right to defend the NLUO and themselves using whatever means they see fit. The question is not valid.
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:20 pm I think I am done with those questions in that post. Any other questions?
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| Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:42 pm I am also not very sure what your idea of diplomacy is Crafty. After reading the messages posted by King you sent to him, you don't sound very diplomatic. I don't think you would take kindly to anyone speaking to you in the manner you did King. I think you owe the man an apology. There is a good start for diplomacy. Won't you start us off please?
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 06:26 am Wendy, Simnations hasn't started yet. Not that you would be concerned, but I've reconciled with SC and will continue to play both games. As for me being boring, you have no idea who I am. You might have some general thoughts thrown together after reading the daily chat-log before bedtime, but please don't consider yourself to 'know' my personality. You might be JLo for all I know, but I'm not drawing conclusions. Tallisbeth, I wasn't answering to you. I was actually referring to most of Wendy/King's drone-sounding twig-strength responses. No 'deflation' of your intended.  As you all might already know, I still think NLUO will fail, and that these threads should belong in the LU section. A recent post in the WG section got considerable attention, so there's no reason why these NLUO-related topics can't be started in the LU section from now on. The only reason why Wendy/Hezze are starting them here is for attention.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 06:46 am Simnations is in beta. Wait, you didn't get an invitation? Yeah that is pretty fuzzed up with all that free advert you were doing in the SC chatroom. I see why you'll still play here, and I am glad to know you'll stay. but nonetheless booooooooring...
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 07:04 am Seems more interesting than the bunch of lies you sprout outta your cakehole. Sources tell me NLUO has already attacked someone due that that particular person disagreeing with Hezze. Guess that discredits all you just blabbed on about.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 07:09 am Lol! Yeah, you didn't get invited 
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 07:40 am Now I tried to stop this. But following a response by Josias again with the Hydra aggression... There have been discussions about renewed possibilities of war in response to these new developments.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 08:31 am well, i was trying to avoid this thread. i believe that while being in a state of war, tanting, a fearsome enemy, was unwise and i still don't care to the initial statement of destroying the NLUO, was a declaration of war. i'd like to return to the peace treaty, that i'd leave hez alone, which i will point out, i did not break i'm not interested in a protracted war, that will never end. i am how ever prepared to defend myself. this entire event, has proven to me, their is life in this game. people just want to have something to do. other than complain about the rule changes. this is what i offer. i will recruit and prepare players to resist any aggressive efforts of the NLUO. if the NLUO is a peaceful organization. then their will be no problems. personally, i like my countries, and i'd like to put them back to the way they were. i want peace. and in the interest of my peace. i'm inviting all presidents to work together with me, in the Hydra federation, for mutual safety. we do not care if you choose not join, but we will encourage all presidents. and we will do all we can, that hydra members remain unharassed by the NLUO, or any other organization. this is my offer of peace to the NLUO
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 06:59 pm To the best of my knowledge, a sincere effort to ratify this offer will be presented to the members of the NLUO. As Secretary of State, I will present this to the Secretary General.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 07:08 pm As hostilities between the Non-Aligned Nations and NLUO begin to wind down, the NLUO would like to get back to growing, filling the government, and creating a stimulating game experience for new and experienced presidents. It is our sincere desire to promote and grow the LU community through peaceful interaction with all non-member states and member states alike.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 07:19 pm thank you, and best of luck with your group!
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 08:50 pm Wendy, the legislation of NLUO was openly published by the NLUO, not me. That was how Hezzy said they would work, not me. That hasn't been seen to happen is all. So members have no responsibility to this legislation? OK, fine, but who does? Do you? Does even hezzy? What is the legislation for if no one has to abide by it. I said I asked to prevent another rogue federation. I did not say NLUO was. You can't spin me girl, better luck next time. For someone of your awareness of current affairs I am surprised you havent heard of the new culture of transparency. ALL honest organisations now 'sort things out' in public, it's a matter of trust, hide things and people wont trust you. Lie once, people wont like it, lie twice and you've lost it. And lastly, yes NLUO has stated that it will intervene in non members affairs if the vote called for it, but no vote that anyone can see happening means that NLUO will intervene in non members affairs if Hez or yourself desires it, I presume. So there you go, I was trying to be reasonable, opening some sort of logical debate so we can see eye to eye but you aren't being open or honest with me...what can I say. You still refuse to answer my very straight forward simple question: Could the NLUO interfere in a non-members nations in any manner whatsoever?. I'm happy you are keeping the peace with Josias, I hope it spreads through out your philosophy as was Hezzies original idea.
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| Friday, December 14, 2012 - 10:13 pm The NLUO never instigated any aggression towards anyone, ever. We are not keeping the peace with anyone, because the NLUO has never shown aggression to ANYONE. There is no way to try an characterize your pathetic attempt to belittle King and/or the NLUO when your questions are rhetorical and only aim to cause confusion, spread lies, and misrepresent the truth. It is pointless. You speak of an lot of if's, and's, and but's, the only thing anyone on Little Upsilon need be concerned with is the behavior of you, Josias and to a lesser extent Mizore for trying to start an experienced fed to go to war with a hypothetical organization headed by a player much less experienced, knowledgeable and resourceful as yourselves. To be honest, your actions are pathetic. It is the same culture of newb bashing that has led to the restrictions of the game you and many like you continue to complain about, while never recognizing your own actions as being the cause and justification for keeping these restrictions in place. Who needs to spin you, BOY? You do a well enough job of it yourself.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 02:01 am Just to let Crafty know because this was brought up in chat. Crafty: Hey Hez. Well I dunno, all I can say to you is, I wish you would answer me yourself sometimes. It gets dull having Wendy doing all the speaking for you, I dont know if its your words or hers. Crafty: But never mind, it's pointless me carrying on arguing with Wendy because she will never concede a point. Like I say on the forum, I'm out of the row. You do your thing, me mine. Lets just hope the two dont cross.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 02:03 am Now here are the powers and responsibilities of the Secretary of State: Secratary of State: They focus on the foreign & war policies of the NLUO, and run the wars of the NLUO. They are the representatives of the NLUO World Government in diplomacy. The secretary of state is the head of the federations. When there is a resolution of war passed in the LU Security Council, the secretary of state regulates the federations, which the Join t chiefs of staff of the chairmen of the federations voted to be chosen to go to war. The Secretary of state set up battle plans for the federations chosen, and enforced the Security council resolution. He or she is elected for up to 2 terms; which are 40 LU Years each term. The secretary of State also appoints the Joint Chiefs of staff, and they are confirmed Secretary General. All policies must be apporved by the Secretary General.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 02:05 am So this is why Secretary Wendy is speaking for the NLUO Crafty.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 02:07 am Really what you should do is join the NLUO Crafty, and then you can know all the inner workings and maybe event gain power to make a difference.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 02:30 am I'm not sure if this is the appropriate thread for me to post what I would like to say, but here goes. I involved myself in this issue, because as a player, I was concerned by the "terminology" that Hezzy was using, which put forth that the NLUO was the governing body of the entire LU world. I still take issue with this, but nevertheless, perhaps it is just a case of semantics. But in my opinion, it was terminology like this that would fuel the passions of players who like to "govern" themselves. Other than that, I think Hezzy's concept is good. I like the banding of players to work and play the game together. It is always what I enjoyed. In another important matter, I butted into a chat conversation between Wendyloo and Crafty today, that perhaps I should have stayed out of, even though I didn't agree with something. For this, I would like to issue an apology to Wendy and to Crafty. I tend to be a little too outspoken sometimes for my own good, but I assure you I do mean well. I have decided to stop being so vocal on issues unless they specifically involve me in this game. Anyways, for what it is worth, I do apologize, more so to Wendy, for I hate that I may have offended her. I have always held the utmost respect for her in the game and as a friend. I equally hold Crafty with the same respect. Sorry, y'all.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 03:12 am I don't understand why Hez is running the gov is he is new to the game. There is no intent to belittle anyone with this comment, but allowing someone who hasn't proved stability or rationality seems to have potentially disastrous outcomes.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 03:40 am Hez played before... he was just as much an asshole and bigot as he is now.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 04:23 am Thank you for your kind words Mizore.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 04:39 am I think the Madam Secretary Sweetpea is doing a very good job in her new post. Not to mention she is an Isolationist, which makes sense as to why she makes sense. It is these Expansionist War beasts who cause us to almost go into a world war.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 05:21 am really? i did not know that, there might be hope for ya yet ms. Wendy. jk id had ya pegged for the expansionist side' lol
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 05:44 am Well, Crafty knows what he is trying to do when questioning Hezekiah, and making it a session of ridicule, disguised as genuine interest or concern. That I don't like, nor agree with. It has been my very nature to speak up for those being handled the wrong way by a stronger opposition that should have used some restraint in the first place. I don't wish to go in circles with you Crafty, I am just doing what I see you doing to Hezekiah. You know ask a question where there will be no right answer. That type of stuff is really dumb. King Hezekiah is a valued member. He was ganged on and left the game 3 years ago. I too had a hand in it. It was a mistake I will not see repeated, and I am absolutely stunned at how many of our veteran community have jumped on a band-wagon to do it again. That kind of behavior isn't going to promote the game, or help it grow. New joins read this, and despite the spins on every side of the issue, many are smart enough to read through it and see this is just a witch hunt by experienced players. In this case, it seems to be the guy that is newer. We as veterans have stagnated the game. King is breathing new life into this place. If anybody could appreciate that it should be us, the vets, who have stayed in this game despite some things. I chose to participate in the NLUO because the rest of the game is doing absolutely nothing. I can clickety-clack all day long, but the reason I log in is to interact with players. If we don't help foster that kind of welcome atmosphere, we will tire of only seeing each other and we get nowhere fast. I've spoken too much. Scarlet, you need a timeout. Why the hostility? There is no reason to take things to that level. I don't want to see you banned, but I have been banned for far less than that and it amazes me how some of you continually get away with that. I would like to see some standard established. So at least it doesn't seem like some are singled out. But bans are not needed here. Common sense should prevail. The NLUO will continue on. Many will join, more will not. In the end though, there is not a single thing about this organization that warrants any player attacking Hezekiah relentlessly on a regular basis.
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 11:45 am Why the hostility? Maybe you should explain to your Hezekiah why someone might take issue with a player creating a disgusting persona in which they establish an authoritarian organization, define themselves as an expansionship, claim to be working for the betterment of the game, and make anti-semitic remarks. This is a joke, and one I don't find amusing. Really, the better question is what kind of person would choose to create such a persona? You want to roleplay, whatever. There will be no "peace in our time".
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| Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 01:04 pm You shouldn't be able to call someone an asshole and a bigot and get away with it. It is abusive and unnecessary. And if I should get banned for less, the same standard should be applied across the board. The fact that there is not even a warning is even more puzzling. I guess it is a free-for-all until I call you an asshole, for acting like one. I guess we should overlook your actions because Hez is a Nazi and you are a poor victim Jew to hear you tell it. Anyways I'll be done with the profanity and pointless abuse.
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| Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 01:08 pm He said the Jews worship Satan. I call them like I see them. To be honest, I doubt he actually thinks this is the case. He's probably just screwing around. Either way, the game persona he is creating is an asshat (is that better?) and a bigot. Someone creates that kind of persona, he will be treated as that persona deserves. EDIT: My point was that he should not be surprised by the hostility.
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| Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 01:26 pm Zionist Jews do worship Satan. Even those who you think don't have been proven to worship the "Sun" or the morning star and that Christianity is just a Sun cult. That doesn't amount to him being a bigot. It isn't his idea, he did some research and found out about it, and possibly decided it holds more credibility than blind faith. Criticizing a religion or cult within a religion or certain group of people does not make him a bigot. You are taking your comments about him way off the game and getting personal, and I can remember being warned and then banned by Tommi for saying something far less offensive about you after you complained. Scarlet, you've been here long enough. You know well you should keep the insults within the game and not based on his personal beliefs. I'm not trying to get you into anything with the GM. I am asking you that you observe the rules you once complained I wasn't.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 03:47 am Zionists don't worship Satan, they are jews that don't believe in the state of Israel. And depending on where you look Zionism was said to be started by secular. A secular sect is pretty much the opposite of worshiping Satan. I don't agree with any organized religion, but I will not chastise anyone for believing however would like to, I really prefer that it doesn't get brought up. In this case the religion was falsely represented and on matters of faith that is very dangerous, yikes look at the world. I guess my point is this, people tend to get carried away with the argument and pick sides. An issue that I have no place in, but Wendy Hez was wrong on his description of a very sensitive subject. That kind of information spawns from misunderstanding or discrimination, I will not presume to guess which category is true. Just because you are in a situation on his side, that does not mean you have to defend statements such as this. War lines are drawn based around certain idealogical differences NOT every idealogical difference. If you guys have a reason to have hostilities that is fine but you do not need every ideal to exasperate the situation, and allow a misunderstanding to turn into hatred. I myself am never offended but intentionally offending people is just something not needed here on the forums, and should probably be done in private messages not to be reposted on here. But Wendy this also isn't only on you and Hez. Scarlet I remember seeing that post and scratched my head, but he didn't shove that point down our throats the post just kind of ended there, to bring it back up is a way to ignite a fire. If that's what your looking for okay, but as I said previously it only takes 1 ideological difference to have a reason for conflict when you make the entire world issues your platform is it difficult to think rationally as dislike, mistrust grows into hate. I would hate to see hate on here.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 05:28 am Dear Sim Community, I would like to rescind my stated apology above to Sweetpea aka Wendy. It is definitely NOT deserving. I do, however, keep my apology to CC, as he is a very respected player with the utmost integrity. Also, I would like for all of you to take this into consideration as Sweetpea/Wendy corrects the behaviors of other players in this forum as she felt compelled to do above with Mizore. She was banned from having a voice in these forums for about 8 months by the Game Masters. One has to wonder why. Anyways talking about something stated that was "unnecessary" was her telling me in chat that she didn't "give a f===" what I had to say. Tsk tsk. I find the use of the f word in a conversation towards me abusive and unnecessary. At least I have the decorum to state my mind without doling out the cuss words. :-)
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:01 am The Rothschilds have been Satanists for many generations. The Rothschilds are an important part of the history of the Seal of Solomon (also known as hexagram, Magen David, six-pointed star, Star of David.) The Seal of Solomon, the hexagram, was not considered a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds began using it.9 Throughout the Middle Ages the Seal of Solomon had been used by Arab Magicians, Cabalist Magicians, Druid witches and Satanists. One of the few ancient uses of the symbol was on the floor of a 1,200 year old Moslem Mosque found where Tel Aviv is today.10 In the twelve century an Ashkenazic Jew Menahem ben Duji, who thought he was the Messiah, used the magical symbol.11 Because the Rothschilds were Satanists they adopted this powerful magic symbol in 1822 for their coat- of-arms. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:03 am The name they adopted for their family actually comes from the fact that in the 17th century Mayer Amschel Bauer began hanging out a red hexagram in front of their house to identify it. Mayer Amschel then decided to take the name red-schield (Rothschild in German) after the red Seal of Solomon that they used.In 1836 Zevi Hirsch Kalischer approached Rothschild and proposed Rothschild buy all of Erez Israel. It took many years for the Rothschilds to finally create Israel. The Rothschilds have been a primary force behind the creation of Israel, and so it is appropriate that the nation carries their magical Seal of Solomon as the state logo. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:52 am Ezekiel 36:5 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:53 am Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:54 am Ezekiel 35:15 As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:57 am This is what leads me to believe what I believe, and question begs to be answered. Where are the Edomites/Idumaeans today?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:11 am Edom ( /ˈiË.dÊŒm/;[1] Hebrew: ×ֱדוֹ×, Modern Edom Tiberian ʼĔá¸Ã´m ; "red"; Assyrian: Udumi; Syriac: Üܕܘܡ) or Idumea (Greek: Ἰδουμαία, IdoumaÃa; Latin: IdÅ«maea) is a Semitic inhabited historical region of the Southern Levant located south of Judea and the Dead Sea. It is mentioned in biblical records as a 1st millennium BC Iron Age kingdom of Edom,[2] and in classical antiquity the cognate name Idumea was used to refer to a smaller area in the same region. The name Edom means "red" in Hebrew, and was given to Esau, the eldest son of the Hebrew patriarch Isaac, once he ate the "red pottage", which the Bible used in irony at the fact he was born "red all over".[3] The Torah, Tanakh and New Testament thus describe the Edomites as descendants of Esau.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:16 am During the revolt of the Maccabees against the Seleucid kingdom (early 2nd century BE), II Maccabees refers to a Seleucid general named Gorgias as "Governor of Idumaea" Some scholars maintain that the reference to Idumaea in that passage is an error altogether. Judas Maccabeus conquered their territory for a time in around 163 BC.[34] They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them to Judaism[35] and incorporated them into the Jewish nation,[17] despite the opposition of the Pharisees. Antipater the Idumaean, the progenitor of the Herodian Dynasty that ruled Judea after the Roman conquest, was of Edomite origin. Under Herod the Great Idumaea was ruled for him by a series of governors, among whom were his brother Joseph ben Antipater and his brother-in-law Costobarus. Immediately before the siege of Jerusalem by Titus, 20,000 Idumaeans, under the leadership of John, Simeon, Phinehas, and Jacob, appeared before Jerusalem to fight on behalf of the Zealots who were besieged in the Temple; but later betrayed them, and 1,000,000 Jews were killed. The city was laid waste and the Jews were enslaved in their thousands. After the Jewish Wars the Idumaean people are no longer mentioned in history, though the geographical region of "Idumea" is still referred to at the time of St. Jerome.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:53 am If you tell a Zionist that he worships Satan what is the chance he will shoot you dead? This is all from two sources, one of which is a holy doctrine that condemns all Jewish people. And the revelations quote was used out of context. I heard that quote recently used for this very purpose debunked by a Bishop in an interview. The bible condemns all non-believers to hell. This includes all non-Zionist Jewish people, Buddhists, Athiests, probably the Mormons too if the book of later day saints was around before this edition. The other source you are using is unfornately propaganda. The start of Zionism was a really simple concept that didn't go as far back as what you are stating in your posts. Zionists were like hey let's form a communist government to ease the transition of the migration of Jewish people because of the holocaust, and other discrimination. Israel didn't like that, so the groups began to argue. One side wanted their values based on government and the other based on religion. I'm not exactly sure why "sharing is caring" which is supposed to be important in like all religions doesn't seem to work when confronted by a religious entity, oh well. cough cough republicans... Of course Israel wasn't a country until 1948 so I'm probably going a bit out of order. But you see the point of Zionsists were to produce a safe haven to the oppressed and was started by SECULAR individuals that realize worshipping that jewish stuff alone isn't going to support their people they need to take real-life free of religion concepts and develop a sense of salvation and restoration from the rubble of persecution the Jewish people had underwent. It has nothing to do with the devil. The Rothshild family was just a bunch of rich Jewish in which some were Zionists. And the biggest reason why your source has lost COMPLETE authentication is that references the Illuminati. I can't take anything that mentions the Illuminati seriously. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF MY POST ->But you know none of this has any importance, I'm not going to change what you think, you probably won't apologize for your comment. All that is fine. So what we have here is a complete lack of respect. If you are homophobic do you yell and scream at gay people? If you are racist do you yell and scream at black people? NO, no you don't. If you have a derogatory sentiment towards a group of people you keep in your head, though you should never have a derogatory sentiment towards a group of people as every person is an individual. I personally would judge each individual of Al Qaeda separately and not condemn them because they are in group. Now before you say that it isn't derogatory because it's true, which it isn't, however for the sake of argument I'll let it be true. It still should not be said. Here is why, if you found someone on the site is chinese and statistically you are 85% likely to be taller than him, and you assume it to be so call him short or something. There may be no offense but you still could be misrepresenting him to the entire community. That is wrong. This goes back to the top of the post, if you have a Zionist next to you saying "oh that's ok, that won't offend me" that still isn't good enough. If you go into an all Zionist chatroom and spew that, and they say "it's alright" well then maybe it's alright. Still a maybe though. Religious Persecution is not okay on the forum. So stop it. Even if it's true stop it! I can say a certain type of people spread a deadly disease very heavily, but I won't. I can say that certain people tend to perform certain crimes but I won't it's offensive and doesn't define anyone. If you don't stop it, I'll complain. My ability to complain has no relevance in my religion, gender, race, ethnicity, social status, social class, sexual orientation, age, politic alignment. None of things. DON'T SPREAD HATE! simple
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:55 am Note: the last two hez posts were not present when I wrote my rebuttal, but they do not change my opinion. And they still don't seem to answer the challenge at hand. That challenge that should be dropped, well should be apologized for.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 03:10 pm If Zionists do or do not worship Satan, is all each player's opinion. Facts or information will be used by either players to support whatever conclusions they come to. @Kiss, no one cares. I'm not Jess, get over yourself. You can keep your apology, it meant nothing. I wouldn't be fool enough to think it did, and so should crafty. Enjoy your game.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 05:16 pm Dear Wendy, I can really only shake my head at you. I think Crafty knows that I'm sincere, because with me here it isn't "game", it is just me. Furthermore, that is between he and I and doesn't really concern you, and if he feels a need to question my apology or post on it, perhaps he should do that or even send me an ingame message??? I don't have involvement in the "game", per se, and you know it. So this is NO game to me. And furthermore, my apology to YOU was in fact sincere. I felt bad that I may have offended YOU, someone that I considered a game friend and didn't want it to appear I was against YOU in the game. Whether YOU choose to believe it or not is YOUR problem. I am glad to know at last that YOU are in fact a heartless female after all. You may not be "jess", but you certainly now are coming across every bit as heartless and mean of a player as she ever was. You make the game so fun and lively, but YOU go waaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top, sometimes. I've always been a strong advocate for YOU and even was right there in chat that day, asking Andrew to lift the ban that YOU needed to come back. I question my wisdom in opening my mouth on this now! ha ha ha Also, I don't see anyone else posting here that they don't care about what I have to say. Are YOU now the entire game spokesperson??? lol I would say that it is just YOU that is "uncaring". Well this "uncaring" as YOU say, suggests an almost socio-pathic personality, because people, who are in fact GOOD people, SHOULD care even in an online game. Just saying. By YOUR words here, everything YOU spout about so and so's behavior or trying to "clean" up the game, YOU aren't really caring at all, it is just to be self serving in a game. Selfish motives, indeed. Well I assure YOU, I have no "game" interest. I have always just enjoyed coming here and goofing off and cutting up with the people. My intent here was GOOD HEARTED. I really CARE about people here, which included even YOU. THAT, my dear, is what separates ME from YOU. Also, please come off YOUR high horse, because I really doubt alot of people here really care what YOU have to say as well. Just saying, if you want to state that to me, I will turn it back on YOU. I'm just pointing out some things to YOU, just as YOU think YOU need to point out to me. I am not afraid to cross YOU as noone else should in this game. Also I should point out that YOU are every bit as "abusive" as you claim that Scarlet (Mizore) or whoever YOU tell that to. Why YOU even told Tom Morgan he was BORING. As I said, YOU must be a "problemed" player because I know I have never been banned from the forums before, but YOU sure have and for a VERY long time. Perhaps the GMs will "rethink" their decision. For if I were part of game management, this would NOT be tolerated. I do have to question. Relative to my post as to why I was going to leave, YOU are the only one who had anything negative to say. Highly interesting, I would say. :-) Anyways, Enjoy YOUR game, love. I just enjoy the people here, well most of them. I don't enjoy the nasty "games" and frankly, right now, I don't enjoy YOU, the player. Merry Christmas. May you find love in your heart this holiday season, even to extend to a game where there are people just like YOU. As I stated, the players in this game, veteran or new, are human beings with feelings, life stresses, health issues, and what not. A shame that people can't come here to laugh and smile, over and above the "game", at times. But YOU are obviously in control and dictating to everyone. So I respectfully just bow out. Anyways, I emphasize the YOU throughout this message, so that it can be ALL about YOU. *Gives you a big pat on the back. There you go, girl friend. Muah! Happy Gaming!!!!!
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:26 pm Too much to digest... have you ever tried readers digest Kiss? Do you really want me to read all of it. Just skimming through it is telling me you could have got your point across in a few less paragraphs. I like how so suddenly I play all these "nasty games" the instant you and I disagree on anything. Kinda makes me wonder about Josias, Jess/BA and all the 'nasty' games accusations. Do you use the term and apply it liberally to those who generally disagree with you or what?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:28 pm Yeah I just read the rest of it in detail and it was a useless spew of nonsense. Have a good one kissi, sounds like you need it. But before I go an analogy to sum up how retarded all your typing amounted to basically nothing. How do you put "Boring" in the same category with "asshole and bigot"? Really? Wow That is like you "suddenly" putting me in a category with Jess as far as harassing you in chat. Please tell everyone of a single example where I did any of the things you alleged she did to you, and find out how hollow that accusation was as well. You should just stop. I'm starting to think you made the whole Jess harassment thing up, as I am sure many have already concluded.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:50 pm I am not going to apologize. Where are the Edomites? Also look who AshkeNAZI Jews come from. Genesis 10:1-3 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. See the AshkeNAZI Jews are from Japheth, so they are Gentiles or europeans. They are not Semetic. Edom is semetic, but why are they not mentioned anymore?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:59 pm Wow, these people knew how to choose names huh?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:12 pm Educate them Hezekiah, for they know not what they speak of.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 07:23 pm Dearest Wendy, 1. *Smacks self! Why of course you wouldn't understand, one of such a little brain. ha ha ha ha 2. Please forgive me. I will use the K-I-S-S method for you (to Keep It Simple Stupid) at a 6th grade level JUST so YOU can understand.:P KISS method ha ha ha ha 3. I'm also sure that ALL of simcountry will keep their posts in the future to 10 words or less so that YOU can continue to understand. After all, let's be super accommodating for the Queen! Oh I mean, let's all bow to Wendy!!!! <---much simpler of a statement to use, I'm sorry. I want YOU to comprehend. OMG thank you, Wendy. I so needed this laugh today ha ha ha ha ha ha Anyways, glad I could satisfy your need to be a ummmmmm what's the word that people usually say??? Now forget about me and go terrorize someone else. :P
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 09:25 pm Wendy, you can rest assured that I will not use any game position or personal belief as cause to stalk or harass anyone outside the game. I will not dig up personal information. I have no desire to be involved with your life in any capacity outside this game. This is the boundary that I will not cross, and I have not crossed it. However, I will use any opinions expressed on these forums as cause for hostility within the game. If whoever is behind the keyboard cannot handle King Hezekiah II being called a bigot by Mizore, he should refrain from volunteering his opinions on the forums. Judge and prepare to be judged as the saying goes. If it makes you feel better, the person behind the keyboard here isn't actually angry and is greatly exaggerating the level of offendedness. I still think he is wrong and wrong in a dangerous way, but that doesn't mean he means any harm, does it? As far as "bannable" language, I can understand where it may be confusing. Given their history, it isn't only about bad language. Until you understand the difference between threatening to destroy someone and threatening to murder someone, you will be banned and I will not.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 - 09:40 pm
Is anyone surprised that there is not a single example? I'm not. You probably aren't either. Apparently Kiss is just upset that we didn't agree on %100 of everything there is to agree on. Therefore, I am Jess, Stupid, and any other level of insult or wrong she can lodge against me. Case closed.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 09:46 pm Can we get back to hating each other?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 09:49 pm Sure It was proly silly of me to take her serious anyway. Batcrap Crazy if you ask me. But who is a psycho to judge?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 09:52 pm It's true I don't know THAT much what I talk about, but it is a very simple concept. Everyone believes in their version of god. Satan was never introduced in all your ramblings so their version of god is your version of Satan. Which downright utter biggottry. Also to point out the obvious, and the reason I am not religious. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING! Neither do I. This is a religious matter and the existence of God and Satan can be questioned. All stories wthat happened since the creation/evolution of man involved in religious context are written by the victor, and altered by the controller to amass power. So stop talking like you know anything at all. Because unless you were there you have no friggin clue. So I'm going to give you a final warning, stop talking about this, this is something that will have no debate because there is no concrete topics to base it around. The only conversation that can come from this is a blasting and condemning of a people. So if you keep talking about it, I will complain and complain until either you or I get banned from the forums.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:15 pm well i dont personally know what the whole bigit thing was about, so i wont comment on that. however i gotta say i was most impressed with Hezzy's information that he dug up. as far as ms. Lorelei and ms. Wendy go, I hope ms,Wendy that you can work things out with ms. Lorelei. she is a fun person to hang out with, and usually pretty friendly. even with those she disagrees with. don't get me wrong you can be equally as witty and fun to hang with as well. and I personally have noticed that lately you have been trying xtra hard to get along with people compared to before. and thats definitely, at least in my opinion, a great way to go. its just sometimes you kinda come off the wrong way to people when you are angry with them. hope ya guys work it out, i hate to see anyone take this stuff beyond the confines of the game to being personal. and by the way i mean no disrespect to anyone mentioned here.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:30 pm Drew must be Jewish as to why he is whining about what I posted, which was nothing but facts.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:38 pm Whatever makes you feel good about yourself, Wendy. But you are the one that I hear that term used more often about. :-) Furthermore, if I have gone "Batcrap Crazy" I have idiots like you to thank for that. ha ha ha Maybe I am, therefore maybe you should be worried :S YIKES!!! You see that is a personal attack. I'm sorry, I don't surround myself with ill tempered people like you, who gets a rise outta being mean to people online. I find this display by you absolutely repugnant. But please don't think you are upsetting me, which seems to exhilerate you. Now that is BATCRAP CRAZY. Grow up! All of this, because I told you demanding an apology from Crafty was stupid and bully type game behavior. What a piece of work. Dayam I went against the almighty Ms. Wendy!!! All I said is I thought it was time for me to go. I don't want any part of that mess that I went through. But I won't stand here and let YOU, problemed player who has been banned for such repugnant behavior in the chat and forums, talk bad about me. I have never been banned by the Game Masters for my behavior in this game. All of this, because I said I wasn't interested in this type of game behavior??? You are the ONLY player that took exception to that. Wasn't even at that point directed at you. You just used it as a means to retaliate because I have spoken out against your game philosophy. Well guess what...I did same to Hezzy........ he and I still laughed together. There is something inherently WRONG with YOU. But you say about me what you like, I think the Sim community knows I'm "nice" and not a mean spirited gamer. BUT I won't sit back and take your CRAP, as will noone else. You really are a piece of work. ha ha ha Furthermore, noone said you were Jessica. I said your manner of play and bullying is every bit as repugnant as hers was. I have engaged you these last few days as a point, that you are not the OWNER of this game and cannot dictate to me or anyone. And yet you criticize others? What a power trip you are on. Anyways, enough time spent on you. You really aren't that deserving of the attention. I SWEAR THIS IS MY LAST POST. HA HA HA
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:49 pm another long winded post with absolutely nothing of note in it.... I think everyone is hoping it'll be your last post of that length for sure.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:52 pm In all seriousness, I'm about to give Drew a workout.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:53 pm There you go again........ speaking for "EVERYONE". I am not hearing this from EVERYONE just YOU. Are you saying you are EVERYONE in the game?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:57 pm Oh Drew....... be careful, hun... you dun wanna cross the almighty Wendy in game. You will get a workout! ha ha ha ha Sorry, I lied....just a few more posts. :P
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Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:59 pm
you can't take anything she says serious, why start now?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:01 pm ha ha ha ha You know what, I MIGHT just stick around just for YOU! You need a lit attitude adjustment. My perogative...... I am a woman after all. :P
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:02 pm you wish you could adjust me. I'm waiting.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:09 pm I'll throw a shoe at you. What you think about that?!
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:13 pm Will it hurt?
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:14 pm well.......not exactly what i had in mind lol
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:41 pm Maybe.
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| Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:42 pm Please note above, the shortest post of my entire Sim Career. *points upward
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 02:01 am NLUO BETTER know how to face the music if they start dictating in simcountry! PERIOD!
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 02:27 am "In all seriousness, I'm about to give Drew a workout. " Wendy their really is nothing to low, as long as you win! that one is the EXACT opposite of where this all started. Talk about newb bashing! Drew is dead on right! most of this, does not belong in a game. And now you are Big T telling Aesop to heel!
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 02:32 am speak spanish or better still DUTCH OR SHOULD THAT be portoguese Aesop to heel!
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 03:44 am What did I do? I told him not to post anything that can be conceived as derogatory about religion. I'm agnostic by the way. In which I don't trust any religious institution but will not abandon the possibility of the creator. This is it right there though. I am not involved in anything to do with the NLUO, but I am not going to keep quite when someone is preaching hate. My values are stronger, than my fear of being obliterated in this game. I hope Wendy doesn't give me a workout, but it isn't going to silence my values of liberty. That is all, won't post here again unless I need to. FYI: Facts are a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: (Scientists gather facts about plant growth.) There are ZERO facts in his postings. Just sayin
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 06:52 pm I do not mingle what I know to be true concerning real world historical facts with the game of simcountry, and to the world of LU. I also did not create this government to be dictatorial. If you speak to some of the members, you will find that I have no power over them at all. We all agreed to come under a set of guidelines and political process to move the world of LU forward. For the most part at this point, we have not mastered the political process and are learning how to move through the government based on a mutual respect. Nations who do not want to participate in the government are not forced. But when there is aggression by nations who are not apart of the government they will receive the full force of the government's federations. It is called self defense. We have a right to exist, and exercise our policies as we please. FYI: 1Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and (oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith). Grace be with thee. Amen.
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:38 pm No, you do not have the right to exercise your policies on people who do not wish to have them excercised upon them.
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:50 pm Nations who do not want to participate in the government are not forced. But when there is aggression by nations who are not apart of the government they will receive the full force of the government's federations. It is called self defense. We have a right to exist, and exercise our policies as we please. I think we are saying the same thing Crafty,
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:40 pm Maybe we are Hez. Just dont judge others as aggressive when they too are defending their sovereign rights. Everyone else has a right to exist and exercise their own policies as they please too. I'm not starting arguing again. I've used up my words.
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:32 pm Have we ever made any aggressive moves at all with out someone provoking it? Yes or no. I know you used up your words, so maybe you can just answer yes or no to that question.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:03 am I'm sick of reading misinformation about the NLUO government. The NLUO government is basically like a democratic Co-operative government and nothing like a dictatorship! We are setting up a democratic government that everyone can participate in. At the moment Simcountry lacks a political and diplomatic aspect. The NLUO government are only trying to fulfill this void. If we work together we can achieve much more. Lord Lee
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:09 am But thats not what appears to be happening? It is an organization, that its own leaders threaten entire feds, and wantonly abandon its own treaties! These are the things of concern from those from with out!!! and they are legit gripes!
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:13 am lord lee, i did not mean that as a bite, i'm just glad i have some one over their to talk to, that'll make since. seriously, if you want to be a peaceful, and freindly organization, i'll leave you alone. but the actions of the leadership, so far, have been atrocious!
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:22 am Orbiter why don't you get involved in the government? We will have democratic elections and there are diplomatic means of working out disagreements. "It is an organization, that its own leaders threaten entire feds, and wantonly abandon its own treaties!" This statement is misleading for the reader! Can you be more specific? i.e. what are the facts? Lord Lee
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:24 am seriously? this is too exhausting! nvm
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:32 am I never knew substantiating the truth could be that exhausting.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:35 am Especially for a olympiad. LOL.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 05:00 am Cheers to that Secretary King Lord Lee!!
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 05:49 am The True Potential of the NLUO has been realized in many ways. It has brought together me with my (former)enemies in a way no one in the game has ever been able to. Just a few weeks ago, I was locked in a spiraling war against Steven Ryan. Lord Lee and I have had a few death matches and been opposing members of two superfeds for as long as I have played the game. Even Jack, and I were members of the NLUO on the same side following months of constant military conflict. I had allowed our common membership in the NLUO to take precedence when Jack took aggressive positions around my nations, and normally I would have sent out blanket declarations destroying as much as I possibly could to reverse the action. We would still be common members in this organization if Hydra numbskulls wouldn't have threatened him militarily and basically punked him out of the NLUO There have been monumental attempts, to broker peace between the parties mention here and myself. Not The UC, not Allied Forces, Not GREF, and many other player and organizational efforts have been able to unite my enemies and I. If the NLUO has accomplished something so remarkable that has been attempted repeatedly for years in such a little time; the true power, potential, and positivity of the NLUO cannot be denied. And all these notions and propaganda about the NLUO being put out by Hydra and their old methodology of player interaction need to be flushed down the toilet, because that is the only place where their ideas have merit and use. Now counter that bit of reality Orbiter, CC, Scerlet, and anyone else pumping nonsense about this New idea King has gifted our game with. Then reflect on what little you all have been adding to the game that gives you the merit to slander the thing altogether.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 06:00 am Preach Sister!!!! Opps did I say that out loud... (Embarrassed)
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 06:04 am lol.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 12:14 pm Really Orbiter, its too tiring. The stuff said against NLUO amounts to complaints about hezzies badly worded posts. His posts effectively claimed authorities over players that he had no right to claim authorities over. I'm sue it wasnt intentionally designed to come across as such. Thats all it started with, nothing more, nothing less. But then, when some players complained, Wendy decided it would be a good idea to champion his cause and went all out to accuse people of aggression, picking on him, bullying etc, the normal Wendy trolls. If she hadnt done as such, then I feel sure Hezz, the NLUO and the non aligned would not have gone down this path at all. In fact, josias tried to restore this co-existance but Wendy wont let that happen. Its what Wendy wants, conflict, slagging matches, smack talk. So this is where it has got to. Hez, you really should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for you when I read you cheerleading Wendy like some love sick puppy dog. If you were to do your own thing in your way Hezz, without the shit stirring of others, than there would be NO conflict between NLUO and anyone. That would be great, because like I have posted before and as has Lord Lee above, fundementally the idea of a more interactive LU is a great idea. I hope Scarlet and Josias back this up and then you Hezz will realise which direction the troubles are actually coming from. I can see you are a religious peace wanting person, so see if you cant bring NLUO into the position you originally intended it to be in.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 04:05 pm This is just me talking, but sometimes I get the feeling you people are just bitching because you feel like bitching. Just saying.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 04:59 pm I forgot how it was all my fault. Silly me. I guess i started defending Hez, because everything was peachy and creamy. Agree Laguna. And CC, I got involved to defend Hez after multiple players started in on him the same way it happened in the past, not the other way around. That is what I do, no apologies offered there.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 05:06 pm It is crazy how the whole post and the information I shared in it was totally disregarded by Crafty's last post. I wish they(Hydra) could at least go positive and move to neutral at some point so this fiasco can end. I am at peace with a few enemies that, if it were not for the NLUO, would have been impossible to achieve peace with. I would like to offer Jack a real chance at stepping out of the shadow of someone who helped him in the game and show his own growth because it is a long time since you started playing this game, it is time to start making your own footprint. I want to offer a hand and invite you to come back to participating in the NLUO. You CHOSE the NLUO. Don't allow people to manipulate your decision. I can see how it was an us or them proposition, but really, they forced you to chose after you already made your choice. The NLUO is where you belong, here you can make a difference, with them you can only follow, but never lead. You've gone as far as you can in their army. But the choice is ultimately yours.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 07:06 pm Well said Ma'dam Secretary I agree 100%. I think you are an expansionist at heart, maybe a very moderate left leaning Isolationist. Good words.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 08:01 pm Thanks King
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 09:27 pm Pleasure's all mine Ma'dam Secretary.
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 09:31 pm All these manners makes me think of .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_nXlvY6Io C'mon man!!!
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:12 pm lol
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| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 12:34 am You just ruined the mood now, Serpent! Hezekiah was going to ask Wendy out in the next post. A promising afternoon totally ruined, Serpent.
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| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 01:03 am 2 words: GOOD GRIEF
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| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 01:04 am im still waiting for facts vs fiction as this nluo is concearned, as it is times running out where very near the end of days , less than 46 hours left to dis.............
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| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 01:10 am LOL LG!
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