Helping Players in C3 Wars

'I think when another member of your federation declares war on a C3 country I think you should definitely have the ability to help him defeat his enemy no matter what war level you or him are at, and once the war is won, the country is automatically handed over to your ally you have helped. Vote yes if you agree, or no if you think your federation allies should remain fighting C3s privately.'

I've put this forward on the vote page and I feel it's not getting enough publicity there. If you're a full member, please use your vote on the issue of whether you agree with it or not.

James, that's just silly. You shouldn't need any help beating a C3. There is a ton of info around about how to do it.

No

I have to agree with James to an exstent.

I DIDNT like the old ways where one could join and take the nation from someone when fighting a c3 but all the GM has to say is if the war is ended the C3 goes to person who deced first.

but I do want to see that mult people warring a C3. Return its very helpful helpful when learning to War. Keto, Budman, Serpent, Josias all did that for me and I wish to do the same, its better for a player to see it done rather then heard. Plus in the higher levels let's say 7 it should be allowed not to make wars easier but it would be just hard enough for new players to attack and work together.
One learns ground well the other uses Air

As my NCO always says
Knowelage can be learned by reading
Experience is learned by action
There a reason people always prefer experiance

CC - spot on.

I would'nt say its silly Crafty, not everyone can beat a C3 country on their own you know, especially the new players as they usually need help and encouragement to stay on the game. It's not me who needs help in beating a C3. At least SS partly knows where i'm coming from. It's about working together on here of which obviously you don't value.

This is what the chatroom is for James. If you(or whomever needs the help) go to it when you log in, there is usually someone there who will help walk you through taking the c3.

Even if you can't get into chat there is a huge beginners section with scores of different effective methods to take a c3. If you don't want to sift through a bunch of threads, use the keyword search in the sidebar and type in "c3 guide"
or "how to take a c3" in quotes. You should find some useful info like that.

The forum and the chat are both methods of accomplishing the objective you want to achieve James. You and other players need to utilize the tools that are available to you when you can.

When I joined, a veteran player walked me through taking a c3 front to back. Took me an hour to finish it up, but it was done. Took a lot of patience on his part at the time too. Especially when you think about it should only t

I personally think that this idea is cool in a sense. I think if the member of the federation asks for help with the c3, then it should be able to be done. Also it would make it fun to go c3 raiding with members of your fed. It would also help teaching new nations on an interactive level. I think this is a somewhat good idea is because I am currently teaching people about good and bad weapons, and what you want to destroy the get the most from the c3's war index. It would be cool if there would be a way to have how ever many players that are being taught to be able to actually participate as you were teaching them. I also think it would make the federation more interactive in the teaching role. Let's face it. Feds are the learning mechanisms on the game, as well as the chat.

This would also help in the growth of the world government was well. This is all my opinions on the matter, since it in on the forum.

Spot on Hez, thats exactly what i'm talking about, But I never liked the old way a few years back of how someone declared war on a C3 country to help a player who was never part of his fed. So basically he was helping a neutral country as well as taking the country away from him for himself. I think it was totally wrong to do this but with my idea what i've put on this page, it makes a lot of sense.

As for you SweetPea, I appreciate the advice you're giving me, of which I already know about. But we've got to move and push forward to find other ways and methods to help our allies. With how the way to run and fight other countries is impressive, you could litually have an army of newbies on your side while you can rule as King or Queen over them. Sigh... if only I wish I could wield that kind of power myself. You know what I mean don't you?

Only so much can be taught in a book, Real lessons are learned though action, personally I'm all for allowing multiple people fighting C3 would really give everyone a chance to practice strategy's and help in learning when it comes to the new players

Well James, everybody should be able to beat a C3 on their own.

This has to be one of the stupidest convos I've seen in a while. You should worry more about your fed being able to help you in war, not about C3s. C3s wont take your country, if you cant take a C3 alone with all the help available then you really should stick to econ.

The trouble with you kids nowadays is you dont want to put yourselves out and try to accomplish anything for yourselves. Everything needs to be done for you. Perhaps you should ask the GM to change your nappy too.

Yes I'm grumpy. Leave me alone.

Hahaha, i'm not leaving you alone yet, I have accomplished things on this game for myself AND in real life. Slowly building my own country up from scratch myself and learning how to C3 raid myself.

I only suggested this idea to encourage more new players here. Which I think helping allies is essential, including C3 wars. To me fighting C3s is like fighting petty terrorism groups, and if I ever went to war with you for example, it would be like fighting Germany all over again. Well thats how I see it anyway.

*facepalm* ?

I agree with James the Fair's Assessment.

I'm going to have to agree with Crafty.

Are you having some sort of identity crisis Scarlet?

crafty: yeah, kids these days, what can you say...

Indeed, the real question is whether the identity crisis is just occurring now or if it occurred several months ago. ^_^

Give me a hand here... Where are those avatars from? They reminded of me Shin Megami Tensei, and with the whole identity crisis thing I had to ask.