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Corporations missing

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dacman

Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 03:29 pm Click here to edit this post
I keep losing corporations to takeover I suspect, where can I go to see this info? Can the game not at least send me a message? I hate having to try and figure out what went missing etc every time this happens.

craigwilliamson79

Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 04:59 pm Click here to edit this post
That would be a nice feature...if you are on white giant, check out Zontani Wa. He's been hostile bidding.

Rage Fury

Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 07:53 am Click here to edit this post
Until they implement such a thing, Standardize your Corporation Naming conventions. Like say Dac Chemicals 001 to Dac Chemicals 010 and so on for everything. You want the leading zeros to keep the text based sort sequential, when you sort by name.
That helps me figure out what I lost since everything should be sequential and thus by product. You will find you must abbreviate at times should you do this. Especially if you had Pub to Public Corporations.
It has a side benefit of letting you know how much and of what type of Corporations you have. It also keeps everything nice and neat for those of us that are OCD.
Figuring out what you are missing then becomes easy and just as easy to find in your Shares page, provided the missing Corporation was not renamed yet.

XON Xyooj

Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 08:21 am Click here to edit this post
this naming convention has been what i'm doing, but i just don't get why the darn system don't let 10 comes after 9, and has to come after 1.


the line from your cashflow statement

"Corporations bought, sold, closed and moved"

will probably be the closest you get to know what happened

Erin

Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 08:25 am Click here to edit this post
Thats why rage said name them 001 so that 010 does come after 009... :0)

Or just be odd and use roman numerals like i do and deal with them not being sequential..

XON Xyooj

Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 10:15 am Click here to edit this post
i need buyers for my corps, come to fb, buy all you want.

dacman

Friday, November 15, 2013 - 02:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks, I do in fact do the naming thing, sort of, will likely adopt the name001 concept moving forward. Until now I named things nameA1-9 B1-9 never had enough to go any higher.

But yes its a mystery to me why there is not a message of SOME sort when a corporation is bought out etc.

Rage Fury

Friday, November 15, 2013 - 05:26 pm Click here to edit this post
"but i just don't get why the darn system don't let 10 comes after 9, and has to come after 1. "
Because it is a pure Text/String based sort of any character. In these sorts, they treat integers as strings, so 1 looks similar to 10, 11 and 12. Thus they group together. To avoid this, I imagine it requires special coding and I would prefer they work on more important things like fixing the now FUBAR economy.

Christos

Friday, November 15, 2013 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Dear GM I need an answer: My cargo shuttle corporation, Apo Cargo Shuttles went missing suddenly at April 3465 on KB. It was a new corp that I used 10 GCs to super boost it to max and I stocked it with A LOT of cash and with 10.000s of shuttle components and 10s of shuttle engines, extentions and fuselages. All in all I spent about 1.0T in sim cash and 10GCs for this corporation. And after 1-2 years or so, with no debt, no trace, it vanishes. And it was owned by my CEO so no chance of moving away. And no notice of any takeover bid was given (it was so new anyway that no bid could be made). No notice in my enterprise's newspaper either.

I need an answer about this and I want my 10GCs and my 1T $ back :(

Edit: A notice appeared in my enterprise paper after I posted this saying that the corp was closed because of high debt! I had tons of cash in it!... And all the supplies were lost. This is ridiculous.

Josias

Friday, November 15, 2013 - 10:29 pm Click here to edit this post
corp naming tip

you can get them to line up right, with out the extra 0. if you type Services , 1, (no comma) with 2 spaces in front of the number, up to 9, then with 10 on, go with one space, like Services 10. also, you can right click, open the corp in a new window or tab, change the name, and close it, taking you back to the list, with out having to reload the whole page.

dacman

Friday, November 15, 2013 - 10:48 pm Click here to edit this post
So how can someone takeover my corporations if I never give up more than 15% of my shares??? I have lost more, with ZERO notification.

This sucks!!!!

Andy

Monday, November 18, 2013 - 09:36 pm Click here to edit this post
A president can prevent take overs.
you can turn it off.

enterprises can take over corporations of other enterprises.
this is part of the game.
make your enterprise corporations successful, increase their market value and a takeover will not occur or will bring you a large profit.

There is a 6 game months delay before a takeover takes place.
(between the offer and the execution of the transaction).

thewhy

Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 06:22 am Click here to edit this post
how does a president prevent takeovers andy because ever since you got rid of nationalization i have lost about 15-20 corps to hostile CEOs

Aaron Doolavay

Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 06:34 am Click here to edit this post
what do you mean by got rid of nationalization? you still can.

Andy

Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 12:33 pm Click here to edit this post
Please check the settings page.

Andy

Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 12:36 pm Click here to edit this post
In addition, you should be very happy with corporations go private and public.
state corporations hardly produce profits for the country.

the best countries and empires, have mainly private and public corporations.

block the CEOs and you shoot yourself in the foot.

Rage Fury

Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 10:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Josias is correct in the naming tip. In this case the spaces take over the purpose of the leading 0s. This can be done with any Character, Alpha Numeric or otherwise, provided the Game does not prevent said Characters usage.

thewhy

Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 01:31 am Click here to edit this post
not allowing CEOs into ones country does not affect weather they can buy shares of truly public corps and take them over... free players cannot nationalize public corps any more.... i block ceos because i use country controlled truly public corps..... however there are certain CEOs that dedicate their whole existence to buying controlling interest of mine and my friends corps

XON Xyooj

Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 07:47 am Click here to edit this post
it would be nice to just let the 10 comes after 9, so that all my corps are in consecutive order :)

i have a "space" between the number and word description, but 10 still comes after 1; 30 comes after 3, but not after 29

it's still:
oil 1
oil 10
oil 100
oil 101
.
.
.
oil 11
oil 2
oil 3
oil 4
oil 5
oil 6
oil 7
oil 9
oil 90
.
.
.

Erin

Thursday, November 21, 2013 - 05:12 am Click here to edit this post
make it like this

Oil__1
Oil__2
Oil_10

I think that is what they are saying about spacing... i just use roman numerals it does not bother me too much.

Rage Fury

Thursday, November 21, 2013 - 06:22 pm Click here to edit this post
That is correct Erin. XON basically you need to make your Corp names the same length within each Product type, mirror Erin's example.
Then they will be treated the way you desire them to be.

dacman

Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the tips GM, I will certainly employ.

It would still be VERY nice to have a log of WHAT happens to corporations...ie closed/purchased etc. Blindly having to determine and assume what happened is not pleasant.

Aussteigen

Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 09:03 pm Click here to edit this post
So... Perhaps add the ability to buy shares of Enterprise Controlled Public Corporations in your country? Imagine the profits that would come with that. woot woot

(If you already addressed this above... Apologies)

Andy

Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 10:13 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe check the country newspaper once in a while.
it contains at least the last 10 issues and includes messages about corporations closing and the reasons for it.

Countries are not in the business of trading shares. Enterprises are.
A president can decide to take a corporation to the stock market or sell it. The president can also decide to keep the corporation ownership.
going into share trading is a different game and the domain of enterprises.

john V

Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Back in August it was mentioned that presidents could buy shares in corps located in their country. I would like to be able to increase my county's minority share of public corps. I still get the message "you can only buy shares in companies you control"

thewhy

Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 07:57 pm Click here to edit this post
yeah well Andy changed his mind John so shut up... we are at the mercy of enterprises country controlled public corporations are obsolete.... i have a thriving country controlled public economy very profitable and flexible but any old CEO maybe even a multi can come in buy all my corps and then set production to 10% and there isnt a damn thing i can do about it according to Andy

Jack

Monday, November 25, 2013 - 03:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Andy, Like lots of others I have CEO corps that just disappear and I have no idea who it was or why. And the newspaper doesn't seem to capture that information because I check there. The most recent disappearance was April 3469 on Kebir Blue in Republic of Carolina. Can you check and tell me more about this missing corp as this has happened several times before. Also wouldn't it be better for the game to generate a message to us when any corporation is closed in our country that the president didn't close? This would be helpful information in the management of our countries.

dacman

Thursday, November 28, 2013 - 12:04 am Click here to edit this post
I agree Jack, that's exactly the kind of message I am looking for as the newspaper is not as in your face as an email/msg is. I check messages far more often than the newspaper. Besides as president I want it in my face not in the newspaper that my company is bought or closed. I have lost many thriving companies for no apparent reason whatsoever and it would have been nice to know what the heck I was doing wrong. So once again I set up another and get my production contracts all set up to lose another mysteriously. Its a pain and not exactly inspiring me to play.

Jack

Thursday, November 28, 2013 - 12:20 am Click here to edit this post
Dacman, I have lost some more since then and none of them have been listed in the newspaper. This happens to all of us but it sure would be nice to know what happens in our own countries.

Andy, This one thing would be so helpful. We get notified by a message when a CEO wants to build or relocate to our country. So how about a message when they close or relocate a corp from our country? It is the CEO's decision but as president we should know what is going on in our countries.

dacman

Friday, November 29, 2013 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
Most of my corps that have gone missing were state owned. I had a Factory Maintenance Units corp. that I managed to acquire through Nationalization before that was taken away from us. I had all of my corps. intertwined selling to one another such that I was nearly purchasing 100% local for everything. Suddenly my state corps. started disappearing, no notice nothing and all my supply contracts got messed up. I have been a profitable country for some time and most if not all of my corps that went missing were good an healthy. I suspect aliens abducted my corps. :(

Andy

Saturday, November 30, 2013 - 12:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Corporations never disappear.
We explained it many times before.
Such claims too, do not disappear.

They are either closed or bought and there are clear messages about it in ALL cases.

If a corporation is in a bad financial situation, there is a tag next to its name, on the list of corporations. It appears there many game months before the corporation is closed.

in addition, there are messages on the corporation page explaining the status, showing warnings if the corporation lack workers or raw materials.

People claim this from time to time, but our logs show exactly the reasons and it just never happens.

moreover, if you keep track and check frequently, you can always prevent it from taking place.

dacman

Sunday, December 1, 2013 - 05:43 am Click here to edit this post
Please just put it in OUR logs so we can see it happen too and you will get rid of all of this confusion.

dacman

Sunday, December 1, 2013 - 05:48 am Click here to edit this post
Lost 2 more state owned corps in last 24 hours no notice, no email, newspaper, nothing...I have to try to remember which one they were.

Andy

Sunday, December 1, 2013 - 10:55 am Click here to edit this post
A very clear message is in your newspaper
about two corporations closing down.

False claims are not welcome here and we will remove players who are spreading such false claims.
You are wasting our time too.
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Factory damaged by Light Earth Quake
The Light Earth Quake had a magnitude of 6.7. Freds Aluminum A1 is very severely damaged. The factory Freds Aluminum A1 will be closed down.

Factory damaged by Light Earth Quake
The Light Earth Quake had a magnitude of 6.7. Freds Coal A1 is very severely damaged. The factory Freds Coal A1 will be closed down.

dacman

Monday, December 2, 2013 - 03:33 am Click here to edit this post
Can you please tell me where it is and help me instead of getting mad at me? My gosh I checked every newspaper for last 12 game months and I see nothing. Where am I supposed to look? I did not see that in MY view of it. What month did it occur?

Aussteigen

Monday, December 2, 2013 - 08:18 am Click here to edit this post
Countries are not in the business of trading shares. Enterprises are.
A president can decide to take a corporation to the stock market or sell it. The president can also decide to keep the corporation ownership.
going into share trading is a different game and the domain of enterprises.

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So I suppose your statement in chat saying that State Corporations are not profitable and only Public Corporations are the real deal was false? And countries "Are not in the business of trading shares" right? You just mentioned above that false statements are not welcome here... Countries should be free to participate in the Share Market without restrictions, and not allow cocky Enterprises to nearly collapse your very successful economy just because they decide to take ownership in half your Public Corporations. Also, an ability to Boycott or restrict a specific Enterprise in your country (In shares and in private corp building) should by all means be made available to us, don't give me the old "Block CEO" excuse. Or at least declare war on them...... Even if it sounds ridiculous.
How do you encourage us to go public if you can't even provide us with the ability to defend our assets? Now that State Assets are worthless... Absurd. I've been close to going premium for the second time more than once this year...Very close. Issues like these stop me right at the borderline.

Andy

Monday, December 2, 2013 - 08:44 am Click here to edit this post
Dacman
I removed that fine contribution.
a simple sorry would have done it.

The message was in the country newspaper.
I just logged in and it was there.

You have been spreading wrong accusations while playing for free a whole year. Your last (removed) contribution went too far.

Andy

Monday, December 2, 2013 - 08:56 am Click here to edit this post
state corporations are very profitable.

other corporations are even more profitable.

It seems that you are talking about a different game here?
In simcountry, enterprises are the main traders of shares. Presidents can make money by taking some of their corporations public and if managed correctly, can increase their income and many do.

there are thousands of private and public corporations and the best accounts in the game have many such corporations.

they are able to run profitable enterprises and their corporations contribute a lot to the countries where they reside.

The is no secure business here. not for presidents and not for enterprises.
It is a game.

Corporate takeover is in most cases very profitable as there is a large amount of money paid to the previous owner.
try taking over some corporations from others.

Jack

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 04:32 pm Click here to edit this post
OK Andy - tell me where this enterprise corporation went. Another one left in May 3474 in Republic of Carolina on KB. It is not listed in any newspaper - CEO corps that leave never are. I have other CEO corps that have left over the last few real weeks and it sure would be helpful to know who they are and what is going on in my own country. I know corps are never lost - these went somewhere - I just want to know which corp and CEO it was. Why can't a notification message be sent to us when this happens and tell us what corp it is.

Borg Queen

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 04:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey Jack, was on vacation when my Enterprises ran out so they had some time closing some corps, seems to be about 200 something of my 1000 so Chances are good some of those have been some of those I build in you country

Jack

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 04:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Borg Queen chances are you are right. I'd be glad to have you come back as I have plenty of workers, zero taxes and index of over 125 in all of my countries.


But Andy, we still need some notification of when enterprise corps close. We are notified when a CEO wants to build/relocate in our countries. We need a similar message when they leave. It is their corp and they have every right to do what they want with it but I have a need to know the name of the corp and CEO involved. Thanks.

Andy

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 06:52 pm Click here to edit this post
what about the newspaper for the enterprise?
do you check from time to time?

please do and let me know if something happened and it was not in the newspaper.

Christos

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 08:31 pm Click here to edit this post
C'mon Andy you can't seriously expect us to browse through ALL the newspapers of ALL the enterprises that invest in our countries to find out what happenned! Isn't it easier to make a link so that everything that appears in the enterprise's newspaper regarding a corporation will also appear in the newspaper of the specific country where the corporation is based?

Borg Queen

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 09:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Jack, open up west carolina

Jack

Thursday, December 5, 2013 - 03:36 am Click here to edit this post
Sorry Borg - all countries are now open. Thank you.

Jack

Thursday, December 5, 2013 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post
Andy,

That country has corporations from 24 CEOs, not counting my enterprise. I have no doubt that it appeared in the enterprise's newspaper. I just don't have time to search all 24 for the answer. I read my countries' newspapers so if it was there I could find it. Christos gave a good solution. Please consider creating some notification when a CEO closes or relocates a corporation from our countries.

And Borg Queen I checked your newspapers and it wasn't you but I do thank you for your support.

Andy

Thursday, December 5, 2013 - 09:12 am Click here to edit this post
I do not expect you to check all the enterprises.
I thought you were talking about your enterprise, not knowing what happens there.

I will check here about logging enterprise owned companies in the country newspaper.

You should be able to collect all the info from your own newspaper.

Christos

Thursday, December 5, 2013 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks Andy!

Jack

Thursday, December 5, 2013 - 04:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Andy,

Thanks - sorry I didn't make it clearer. That would solve the communications problem and would greatly help us know what is going on with enterprise corps leaving our countries.

Andy

Friday, December 6, 2013 - 04:04 pm Click here to edit this post
The function is discussed and will be added ASAP.

Alterd Carbon

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 12:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Andy you have a crap job in sim something like White house chief of staff here in the US

MarkO

Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 02:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi Andy,

We just had an episode on White Giant with an enterprise named TTC T, now d/b/a Armageddon, taking control and immediately closing all corps...500 and counting. Not one notice appeared in my local paper for any one corp closed in my countries. If we had such notification, this may have been detected earlier.

len Peat

Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
Ohh their you are Erin, We DONT NEED YOU THIAS Quarter.


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