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Matthew Patton

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27 Oct 2014 09:26Link
what is it?
and why do it?
Xon says he is doing it at 400 countries wants 1200 countries
after 12 countries the system tries to wreck you with revolts
sounds like a great way to have more debt than the US.
wars are expensive
also how can one raid a c3 country and still be profitable?
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Andy

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27 Oct 2014 12:59Link
Not true.
The revolts come if your indexes are lousy.

Hard to maintain 400 countries with indexes at a reasonable level.
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Borg Queen

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27 Oct 2014 13:58Link
Well Andy, from the Docs what you say is only partly true.

If one has good edu, health, transportation and Social Security with an adequate Financial Index the part in the Docs in the 'Countries, Continents and Regions' Part 28-32 says civil unrest will not happen, but if you look at 21 it clearly says that

'If there are more than 5 conquered countries, the chance that a rebellion will hit each corporation is 50 * the number of conquered countries / welfare index'

And as it is written it states this will happen for sure if you have more then those 5 conquered countries after you have occupied them for more then 5 years.

So even if you have only 6 conquered countries and a really good welfare index of 135 the chance of something happening to a corp is still at about 2.2% for each corp.

Looking at 400 Countries with all good indexes it would be above 100% that a corp will be hit by rebellion, e
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Andy

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27 Oct 2014 14:44Link
Thanks borg queen
I will check the doc and the code.
I think the doc is not updated but we will know soon.

You might be right.
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Andy

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27 Oct 2014 14:46Link
400 countries will always be a pain in the ...
It is not made for such huge empires.
I tried to inform the player and gave him some advise on what he could do to build a very powerful empire but with fewer countries.

I don't think he was interested.
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craigwilliamson79

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28 Oct 2014 06:46Link
He says that he bought these countries. I think he must have really misunderstood something about the game to buy that many. Even a very well looked after country grows slowly, over time. 1200 junkers will never get anywhere.
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Borg Queen

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28 Oct 2014 12:04Link
Bought 400 Countries? As it is 100-300GCs per Country that would mean 40000-120000GCs. Either we have found either one of those 'vet players with too much GCs' that the GMs referred to when abolishing the GC trade or someone with waaay to much rl$ ^^
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craigwilliamson79

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28 Oct 2014 16:09Link
That's what he told me and just told me again in another message. He doesn't want to leave war level 0. Ridiculous.
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Jackwagen

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28 Oct 2014 22:10Link
thats rather impressive in a way
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Aaron Doolavay

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29 Oct 2014 03:39Link
that is pretty impressive. pretty pointless imo but in reality so is any game. whatever one likes.
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craigwilliamson79

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30 Oct 2014 17:50Link
The sad thing is is that he is asking me to help him figure out how to make money. How do you tell someone that they've probably wasted their money?
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Borg Queen

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30 Oct 2014 22:33Link
Well, you just tell them before they waste even more
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craigwilliamson79

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31 Oct 2014 11:37Link
You're right. And I did tell him. He doesn't agree...which is fine.
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Aaron Doolavay

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01 Nov 2014 04:20Link
then accept his disagreeableness, tell him to make the population of a few or more countries very large and move to wl3 for whatever reason you make up and then take them from him. Sorry, that probably makes me a bad person but oh well.
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craigwilliamson79

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01 Nov 2014 06:02Link
Hehe, I'd rather not have his countries. However, if he were to somehow pay me to take them...I could do that.
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Perival Lovacore

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01 Nov 2014 15:36Link
A better plan may be to ask him to join a Common Market, and help supply his countries will what they need.

Clearly, I'm playing the econ game.
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craigwilliamson79

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02 Nov 2014 11:14Link
Common markets will not lower country costs.
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Perival Lovacore

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02 Nov 2014 14:49Link
I didn't say that it would necessarily.
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Jackwagen

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02 Nov 2014 17:49Link
clearly you're a pretentious noob with absolutely no idea what you're talking about
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Perival Lovacore

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03 Nov 2014 01:19Link
That's constructive, thanks.
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Jackwagen

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03 Nov 2014 02:20Link
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
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Perival Lovacore

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03 Nov 2014 04:14Link
I'm not here to argue with you. Make your own comments, and if you give better advice or comments than I do, then that's fine.

It's a game. Play it and have fun.