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The Rules of War

Topics: General: The Rules of War

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
I propose a few rules on how simcountry wars are conducted such as banning poison gas, chemical warfare and nuclear warfare. Additionally Prisoners of War should be treated properly. Finally wars should not be started for no reason and there must be at least a reason why not just because. See a list of proposed reasons below.

#1 Economic Gain
#2 Territorial Gain
#3 Religion
#4 Nationalism
#5 Revenge
#6 Civil War
#7 Revolutionary War
#8 Defensive/Preemptive War
#9 Threat of War
#10 Threat of Communism
#11 Threat of Enemy Preparedness
#12 Hatred

Heisenberg

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:01 am Click here to edit this post
Yikes. Why aren't you enjoying your cuddle time?

Yankee

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post
Wars are ALWAYS started for a reason. Why is it important for you to understand the reason? I'm sure the person pushing the declare war button understands.

You left out several of my favorites.

#13 Stealing oxygen
#14 Refusing to move your state property outside my map lines.
#15 Refusing to sell Investment Fund shares.
#16 Painting your tanks Pink or any other color I might see as Pink.
#17 Boredom
#18 Misspeelling of a common word :)
#19 Improper use of a pronoun.
#20 Owning a yellow cat.

I can probably think of at least that many more depending on the situation.

In an active and vibrant game coming up with reasons NOT to go to war is more productive. (If they ever get back to that sort of thing in Sim Country)

As far as treatment of Prisoners?, who takes prisoners?

Eraset

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post
im not posting,wait you can paint tanks? :D

EC

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 03:03 am Click here to edit this post
yikes....more war restrictions???!!!

How about....
-no war restrictions
-defend yourself (or make friends who can)
-no war levels

the GM's have already taken almost every bit of warfare away from us.....any more restrictions and you might as well call this game Mr. Rogers Neighborhood

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 05:00 am Click here to edit this post
Good idea we can add #13-#20 reasons. When the June First war starts it will be for a lot of reasons.

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 05:02 am Click here to edit this post
#21 Disliking a country
#22 Country is too poor
#23 Is Aries
#24 Dislikes the war game
#25 IDK just need a reason to declare


Btw, Aries is the one who takes prisoners (doesn't finish them off)

Heisenberg

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 05:34 am Click here to edit this post
He isn't enjoying his cuddle time Yankee. I think you need to cuddle harder.

Sheepman

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 06:53 am Click here to edit this post
#26 eat and shit corn

Khome

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 08:21 am Click here to edit this post
#27 Import democracy
#28 Is that yellow cake I see?
#29 Stop destroying my city walls!

Yankee

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 04:16 pm Click here to edit this post
#30 Troll Hunt.
#31 It's inhumane to kick the dog.
#32 Your pigeons bombed my statue.

Josias

Thursday, June 1, 2017 - 10:26 am Click here to edit this post
#33 Makes a list of war rules

Sheepman

Thursday, June 1, 2017 - 12:05 pm Click here to edit this post
#34 not washing hands is biological warfare

Theinventor1012

Friday, June 2, 2017 - 07:18 am Click here to edit this post
Seems we will have a war someday in the near future

Theinventor1012

Friday, June 2, 2017 - 07:58 am Click here to edit this post
I've got to add 2 more reasons. (ACTUAL reasons)

#35 not responding to messages

#36 refusing to negotiate a peaceful solution to a war

Yankee

Friday, June 2, 2017 - 01:41 pm Click here to edit this post
That really is funny :)

#37 Destruction of something that looks like a Multi
#38 Destruction of something that walks like a Multi
#39 Destruction of something that talks like a Multi

Sheepman

Friday, June 2, 2017 - 04:42 pm Click here to edit this post
#40 Players attacking C3s

WildStallion

Friday, June 2, 2017 - 11:36 pm Click here to edit this post
# 41 Some of the above plus any future ideas that are worthy of my time to implement....

Theinventor1012

Saturday, June 3, 2017 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
#42 Someone declared war on someone else
#43 Have nothing else to do
#44 Someone is too weak
#45 Just don't like that country

Heisenberg

Saturday, June 3, 2017 - 07:10 am Click here to edit this post
#46 Because you know your opponent just plain sucks
#47 Because your opponent takes inactive countries from other accounts he owns and acts like a tough guy doing it
#48 It's friday
#49 Because some guy looked at you side eye at popeye's chicken because you got a three piece and took the last biscuit. Man, keep your eyes in your head, that's my biscuit. Oops, I blew up your capitol.
#50 Because Yankee told me to.

Sheepman

Saturday, June 3, 2017 - 10:54 am Click here to edit this post
#51 reserving the right to refuse trans-homosexual feminist based artificial intelligence combined with a rats brain.

Johanas Bilderberg

Sunday, June 4, 2017 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post
#52 War is the answer. What was the question?

Sheepman

Sunday, June 4, 2017 - 11:45 pm Click here to edit this post
#53 The answer is a question
#54 The question is another answer

Letsie

Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - 07:34 pm Click here to edit this post
#55 Make love not war!
#56 After making love start the bitchslapping.

EC

Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - 09:42 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't know why we are having this discussion.......war is dead

There isn't war

There won't be war

They killed this game when they made the changes

If you want to play this game, might as well face the fact that it's an econ game....half of the game is gone

It really should be half the cost to keep my membership active....I only get half the game now

Disgruntled

Eraset

Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - 10:29 pm Click here to edit this post
well like a player said on forums ages ago players (or some) got what they wanted ..that being war lvls. plus the rewards for wars lvls hardly worth the cost so perhaps if they relaxed the muscles around their butt area and stop bein tight ass's!, more might war(at lvls at least)

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 03:45 am Click here to edit this post
#57 we are having this discussion because we are discussing the irrelevant rules of war this is a very serious matter

#58 Butthurt results in hemorrhoids

#59 the game was dead before there was war levels added, taking away the overpowered game features is what killed the game, not the war levels

NOTE: fact. i played this game years ago 09-10 and it was the same shit but no war levels, the war level was spose to fix the game but ofcourse anyone who knew that there was still no more op things such as "super carriers" in which no shit like that, there will never be war again. Keep in mind i never was even apart of that, but before the war levels were around people talked alot about the weapons change, thats were war died. this game has been the same shit litterally for the last 8 years, maybe a few things different but the players and the games direction, still people thinking they have the answers and devs still trying to make the answers. Really anyone more then that you can go suck a rocket ship that shoots missiles, because even when space was coming out was rumored there was going to be war to it! but just to transfer shit.

I mean shit, this game has probably been dead at this point longer then it was ever alive!

Eraset

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post
i was around back then.... it wasnt dead

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 03:56 am Click here to edit this post
pardon as i played but wasent really active late 09, 2010-2011 when i actually played with a membership and started but the game wasent much more alive then it is now, believe me there was a point were people talked about a new world and it was just over since the current ones couldent keep going without being filled with nothing but inactive. I mean now its alot deader but more alive then a year ago tbh but like the days with the "vets" and "war" thats been done now for awhile. Even the chat back then was pretty barren (hehe) i miss the old chat ;(

EC

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 05:44 am Click here to edit this post
the game used to be great....the war levels killed it
(this cannot logically be argued against....war levels killed the war game)

the game was alive then...forum was popping all the time

now there is barely anything

sorry if you disagree, but the game is dead now compared to what it used to be

Eraset

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 07:49 am Click here to edit this post
fully agree EC

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 03:00 pm Click here to edit this post
lol the fact you have to say it cant be logically argued against is pretty much something to logically argue against, if it wasent you wouldent have to attempt to close to statement. And im not turning this into a debate, but wasent the war levels to save the game? atleast to the least of it.

If you think that the war levels werent around the attemp to fix the game then you probably werent playing at the time when they were instituted (or were inactive) I played before there was war levels not even a year later this game was already dieing,why they dident give a flying shit when they added war levels because there was players who would enjoy it more then just having unprotected countrys some player could just attack whenever they wanted to, you guys can pat eachother ass all you want but that still doesent make it true, "this game would be amazing if there was no war levels" hahaha. If you think this game just suddenly died at war levels, then im sorry but you must be fuckin crazy. I guess you can blame that maybe the sight of war levels sent everyone running, but sirsmokesalot(doesent play atm) told me otherwise. This game has been dying for awhile, if you think most of the "new" players arent old players with new names, and most fourms that have over 100 posts are just the same people arguing and saying stupid shit like here then lol believe your fairytale, war levels dident kill this game, bad updates killed this game (war levels not a bad update huh?) even removing things like a said, "super carriers" said by a player back then made war a hell of alot funner, if he ever comes back he'll (or anyone else who actually played in 2010 that played for many years before) set the record straight, this game was already deteriorating, war levels was an attemp to fix it, im sorry you people are to ignorant and one sided to see war levels other then something that ruined something you wouldent even be doing if it was gone. Unless everyone read there was going to be a war level and the game died, but the game was already dieing when i joined.
This game is so old, you almost 9 years later and just as many inactives less now because theres not even as many active players. Keep filling the Scapegoat! As if 1 bad update has turned this game upside down. Sorry you guys dont like reality :p but its true, the war level is not the only thing to blame.

As long as war still exists in this game people will find something to blame its death on, as if it wasent already dead, and thats why they made war levels. All the other years this games been around (read KB existed in 2001) never had such a shit idea when the game was active and actually had a real player base. Disagree all you want, we all got an opinion but the truth is the war game was done on FB before war levels were even put into play. I dont doubt war levels as nails in the coffin, but to say they are the coffin! lol please

"sorry if you disagree, but the game is dead now compared to what it used to be" Lol never disagreed the game wasent dead, i just said there was more to war dying then just the war levels, as if we want to say war was already in pain and they euthanized it with war levels.

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 03:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Even to say, ill back off at the end of it all really(i havent been here all the years so i cant say all thats really happened), i mean this is what i had seen before war levels become a controversy. War wasent as popular(barly at all) when i played, and i was one of the only people regularly active on the chat. Most times chat was empty back then, so im just saying this game state isent just a sudden bad update this is been a downward progression for sometime now. I guarateed even if they removed war levels, that state of combat now is just fucked, like last time i check in the last year you could now have tones of forts, like stuff like that is what makes this game bad, even mobiles units i dont like, who ever has the most of them will always win (not to mention about a year ago they were always out of pro soldiers/officers) so haha now they have tones in stock ofcourse, but just an example of how shit they do is annoying and fucks the game, like people would say years ago before there was war levels! Simcountry not the only game, all games get bad updates just some also get really old to, like simcountry, and we start to realize that the new players barly coming along or that all the new players are just old players at some point. Im just in the boat for a "revamp" seriously what could fix this game. Honest to go you people can keep saying "back before war levels!!!" but seriously, we need back when there was non stop war, super carriers and we actually had to fight, go back to the games earliest roots because i everything i have seen in this game has never been what the vets told me it once was. furthor more, when i say war levels were something to "fix the game" ofcourse not from a players perspective but the game masters. Im sure not all the players to come after war levels have hated it, but the game sure shows it doesent like them.

Eraset

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 05:14 pm Click here to edit this post
i played in 2008 2009 left in 2010 i played under name of "straight jacket" back then if you wanna check. also chat was full on,and i stick by what i said back then............... war lvls bad idea(and thats coming from a player who didnt win many wars) and not everyone wanted them ,so you can say and think what you like thats your opinion just happens mine is different .

Eraset

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 05:27 pm Click here to edit this post
oh and btw i dont pat any bodies ass, if i remember right EC was on the other side of the 1 i was on back then.just happens we agree on same thing.

WildStallion

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 10:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Changes here, changes there, changes everywhere, you all talk about changes to the game, it seems nothing ever changes unless you change yourself and adapt to the game, and yes I HAVE seen all the changes made in the game since it's inception in 2001......

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - 11:57 pm Click here to edit this post
I think we can all agree war levels need to at least be changed. I propose 3 simple points which would mostly fix war levels. Unfortunately it's unlikely they will ever be completely removed so I hope you can consider my 3 point plan.

These are simple but reasonable ways to fix war levels while still providing protection for econ only players. I hope everyone can consider these improved 3 points.

1. Players inactive for more than 30 days loose secured mode in all their countries and are increased to war level3.

2. All players at or above war level 3 can fight all other players at or above war level 3.

3. Players receive 75 gold coins when they reach war level 3, get doubled military spending space, and get a bonus to welfare.

Heisenberg

Thursday, June 8, 2017 - 01:08 am Click here to edit this post
1. No. Most people would agree that for the most part there is a great deal of paid memberships here. So you mean to tell me if I'm paid up for a year and have my registrations properly coined out, that you want to install a rule that will rob me of everything I have because I go over some invisible 30 days of inactivity rule? People have lives, tool. You don't have the right to ask for rules that will intentionally rob people.

2. No. You don't get to decide when another player is ready to PvP, nor do you get to decide you can ask for the installation of rules that would, for all intents and purposes, allow you to bully lesser players. You seem like that type.

3. The rewards for leveling up coupled with the benefits of c3 raids are sufficient. Military players already get bonuses plus level awards, while most econ players only get level rewards. It is already skewed in one direction, no need to take it further.

Eraset

Thursday, June 8, 2017 - 02:14 am Click here to edit this post
just an observation Heisenberg on #3 your war lvl 2 so what makes you think c3 raids are sufficient above that?................... it dont matter anymore (to me anyway)

Heisenberg

Thursday, June 8, 2017 - 03:32 am Click here to edit this post
All you really have to do is talk to current players to find out what the military and overall assets that are pulled out of c3's at every level. As you go up in WL, so do the rewards from c3's. I think Aries told me one time that if you follow his raiding technique up to WL 7 its something in the high 70's I think. 77 or 78 trillion in cash. Maybe more. Then figure in regular assets and population transfers. Then figure in the WL rewards and add that to it. I'd say that is quite lucrative considering raiding a c3 takes minutes.

I apologize, maybe I am missing something. I can't seem to figure out why there are complaints about this. I mean, I know why inventor wants to do it, he basically has no war talent and wants the rules this way so he can attack defenseless inactives, much like the one he just completed. But not everybody sucks at this game, so that can't be the excuse for others. Econ players are disadvantaged from the start. We are constantly investing and re-investing our monies, making long term decisions with little guarantee of reward. War players can make endless monies from raiding and fighting PvP, and get pretty much double the level rewards. I think it's kind of ridiculous that we are even having this conversation.

EC

Thursday, June 8, 2017 - 01:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Quote

"So you mean to tell me if I'm paid up for a year and have my registrations properly coined out, that you want to install a rule that will rob me of everything I have"

This already happened Heisenberg......a lot of us were paid up for a long time and they introduced war levels....effectively taking away half of the game from us. We certainly didn't expect them to do that when we clicked our credit cards.

Fighting c3 countries is NOT a substitute from actual war...c3's don't fight back.

If a player goes inactive for 30 days or more....absolutely they should be available to raid. If they have that many assets to begin with, certainly they can afford war protection.

That's the way the game used to be played....either log in or get raided....or better yet...defend yourself from raiders.

Heisenberg

Thursday, June 8, 2017 - 07:11 pm Click here to edit this post
The point is taken, but at the same time moot.

Quote: Fighting c3 countries is NOT a substitute from actual war...c3's don't fight back.

Neither do inactives.

The obvious point that some are missing is that it doesn't matter what any of us think really, all that matters is that the people running this game saw an issue and decided on steps to rectify it. They did so, and as a result people are unhappy on both sides. The solution to this is to play the game by the rules installed or don't. The choice is clear and obvious, nothing obtuse about it. If this isn't the type of gameplay you seek, there are others out there that would suit your needs more accordingly. I'm sure the GM's are aware of this and have factored that in when implementing changes.

All I know is that if I were playing a game and things changed that I didn't like, I would move on. I think 4 dollars a month is too steep a price to pay for what amounts to an outlet for anger about rule changes. An outlet, I may add, that seems quite content with the changes made.

EC

Friday, June 9, 2017 - 01:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Unfortunately, moving on is exactly what the majority of the most active players did.

You didn't get to experience the balance and greatness of the game before the war levels.

Now, the most exciting development in the game is when someone dumps a boatload of electric power on the market...which frankly is quite depressing

Theinventor1012

Saturday, June 10, 2017 - 06:36 pm Click here to edit this post
REALLY Heisenberg, it seems you simply dislike the war game to begin with and haven't even participated in the war game at all. This forum was intended for WAR PLAYERS ONLY. You dislike war against inactive players, active players that are defenseless, and dislike attacking C3's. What's left attacking well defended active players. Well I think you dislike that also when you think players above war level 3 should only fight players at there same war level. This just proves you dislike war together and I'm guessing you want war to be removed completely or based on your responses to my suggestions it seems you want to basically make war impossible. Most players like EC and others actually want to improve and fix the issues created by the war levels, you want to create more issues and ban the war game. Leave this forum if you have any sense we don't want econ players that want a ban on the war game here.


Also Heisenberg when you criticize me for attacking another active player it just confirms you hate the war game. The player I attacked was not inactive at all and had 3 times the assets as me and war probably much more experienced than I was, it seems some players just hate the war game.

Heisenberg

Saturday, June 10, 2017 - 06:51 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL.

More word barf.

You claim I don't like war. Yet I have participated in war in this game and have never said once that I don't like it. Fact of the matter is you plainly just suck at this game. You want to talk about your last war? Alrighty. Let's talk about how myself and others witnessed the fact that your last opponent was entirely inactive....until two months before your war started. Then, oddly, someone magically signed in to the account you're attacking, moved military out of the country, and signed out. You're a liar. Plain and simple. Just looking at the public readout of your wars proves the inactive countries you attacked had little to no defense. Don't try to play like you're some kind of genius. You're nothing more than a dullard.

This is the general topic area of the forum. I can, will, and plan to visit any forum I choose to, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Your countdown has started. The next time you see war, it won't be with an inactive. And you'll be rolled right out of every world you're on. Stop writing checks your big fat mouth can't cash.

Theinventor1012

Saturday, June 10, 2017 - 07:03 pm Click here to edit this post
When have you participated in the war game??? You're not even war level 3 yet. Based on most of your posts you've confirmed you don't want to fix the war game, you've said multiple times you like the way the game is. The way the game is right now is nothing more than a game with a dead war game and a game in decline. Don't try to put up the facade that you actually participated in the war game.

Also when you say my last war was against an inactive. I wasn't even active in sim a much longer than a month ago so your claim has no logical backing at all. Additionally the active countries I attacked had almost as much military assets and me and 3 times the total assets. Finally your claim that I paid to buy some inactive countries. Well if they were inactive how would I contact the country and why would I when I could just easily mobilize my military and participate in the war game. I know that's what some econ players like you probably do. I bet you anything you've bought all your countries because you didn't want to participate in the war game like me.

And who's calling who a liar, your entire last post is fictional and false information. A COMPLETE LIE. YOU are essentially fake news.

Heisenberg

Saturday, June 10, 2017 - 07:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Game months.

I never said you paid anyone anything for anything. Your dress of lies has a slip showing.

LOL, this is too easy. The records of your war are public. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what was going on there. You got called out, and continued the lie. Awesome.

At least I know what kind of nozzle I'm dealing with. One quite douchey. I know what I saw. I know what my friends saw. Nothing you say will change that or alter our views one iota.

Isn't it awesome when you make a point of what you saw and the subject of that point basically verifies your suspicions? I think it's great.

Yankee

Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 12:47 am Click here to edit this post
LMAO ... Yah Heisenberg doesn't know jack about war, but from what I understand he's a fair to decent chemist.

But then I also know him by another name ... THAT guy isn't the nOOB you seem think he is. Maybe just a little rusty, but the oxidation process can be used to temper steel.

theinventor1012, I don't think you've made a friend but quite frankly I personally always preferred enemies anyway. They keep you building, on your toes or at the very least polite.

Johanas Bilderberg

Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 05:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Heisenburg is a total n00b.

You should totally fight him and teach him a valuable lesson.

Yankee

Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 06:28 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL no worries Sa.... ah Johanas, I think he'll eventually get his chance to prove to the simcountry world what a total nOOb Heisenberg really is :)

The_Wicked_Lady

Monday, June 12, 2017 - 03:51 pm Click here to edit this post
SCOWL!!!! I like Heisenberg. Tread kindly or I'll throw a shoe at YOU! :P Inventor, beware!

Theinventor1012

Monday, June 12, 2017 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
If anyone is unkind it's Heisenberg, he's pretty much started every argument and he isn't even involved in the war game, but yet he posted on this thread and on other threads which were obviously intended for war players.

Heisenberg

Monday, June 12, 2017 - 07:39 pm Click here to edit this post
The first words you said to me when you entered the chat the first time I ever saw you were "Shut up noob, what do you know?"

Y'know. There's a lot of things in this world we all learn to let go. They just aren't worth arguing about. I, too, over my lifetime have encountered people and things that you just need to let go. Like getting pulled over. It happens. Can't really do anything about it. So you learn to live with it.

One thing I refuse to let go. Just one. Liars who play the victim card. I'll be seeing you soon. Peace.

The_Wicked_Lady

Monday, June 12, 2017 - 08:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Dear Inventor,

So, what you are telling me is that if you don't necessarily play the war game, you don't get to have an opinion or post on the topic? I disagree totally. There is a difference between argument and debating ideas and opinions. :-)

I've chatted quite a bit with Heisenberg and find him lovely. Oh and don't be fooled, you might deem him a "noob", but my feeling is he's been around before and if that IS the case, WATCH OUT! :-) he he

It's okay, Inventor, it is differences in opinion that make this game and its members enjoyable. Don't worry, I dun throw shoes anymore! :P

Yankee

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 01:34 am Click here to edit this post
Tolling, trolling, trolling, though the streams are swollen ...

Theinventor1012

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 06:38 am Click here to edit this post
This thread is intended to discuss ways the war game could be improved, if you haven't participated in the war game why should you decide how it should be improved if you don't even know why it's bad. Also it's obvious Heisenberg's last post is a complete lie like most of his factless posts based on pure fiction. Finally if you ever wonder why players like Heisenberg think the war game is fine the way it is you should realize it's because they don't know how bad it is.


Said by Heisenberg; "I can't seem to figure out why there are complaints about this" (June 8, 2017 - 03:32; Post #40 under Rules of War)

The reason why you can't figure out why there are so many complaints about war levels is because you haven't played the war game, except against maybe a C3. If you don't know why so many people think the war game needs improvement maybe you should show some consideration before simply starting an argument.


Also Wicked Lady I don't mean to insult you but I think Heisenberg should think twice about a major issue such as war levels if he doesn't know why so many people dislike war levels. Especially since he probably still doesn't fully understand the issue.

SuperSoldierRCP

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 07:11 am Click here to edit this post
As a vet and long time player, I strongly disagree with you inventor. In the past, some of the best war game ideas have come from people who are in secure mode and didn't play the war game.

I've been here many years and I have seen some very good and some very bad changes to SC. Overall, in most cases the war updates have strongly benefited the player base even though we disagreed with them at first. I love your enthusiasm, but remember that everyone's opinion is equal in regards to how to help grow the game. Like it or not the War levels are here to stay and we as a player base need to rally around changes that can help. Devaluing the opinion of another because they might know less is reckless and dangerous. You said "Especially since he probably still doesn't fully understand the issue." In that case should I, Aries, or any other war vet look down on you because "YOU" know less then we do?

We need input from all the war levels to weigh in on what we should see changed. Mainly because its only when we have a large range of ideas can we make SC better. The war level are here to stay and no one update will make it better, the honest truth is that it will take many small changes to make it work, not just one big one.

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Dear Inventor,

I am not insulted by what you say in reference to my comment. I liked the old days in this game when there were less restrictions. The days when you could raid and plunder for game assets. The fun of being in a federation, where as a group, you helped each other, defended each other, learned from each other. The days when you had to pay for War Protection if you needed it. I paid for plenty. lol The old days of federation wars. There was much war excitement then.

But as Ryan says above, those days are gone and the new rules exist. I don't know much about the game these days, but I feel it was the game's way of evening the playing field. To get an honest opinion, you need to ask players like Aries, Super, Wendy, Josias, Casual Industries who are some of the most wonderful contributors to this game in the war area, both past and present. They are also strong econ players too.

What I think I am hearing from you is you thirst for the war game. I can't fault you for that. But as Ryan says above, you have to respect other players opinions as well.

To close, I'm offering my two cents here, and I don't play the game at all! lol :P

BUT, I am Andy's mother, so be mindful to not offendeth the gamemaster's wicked Mom!!!!

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:42 pm Click here to edit this post
EC - I have been trying to remember who you are. El Christian???

Yankee

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 11:31 pm Click here to edit this post
theinventor1012 FYI,

1. Heisenberg may be rusty when it comes to war however, he's got a lot more PVP experience than you do.

2. Not only is he building quick, but he's got people pointing out changes to this game.

3. His FED on GR is active players who are also experienced in the PVP war game from the days when all worlds had PVP wars going 24/7. Even with everyone else neutral, FED defense is FED defense your high quality mobile units are not going to have an easy time.

4. He IS coming after you, it might be wise to buy as much time as possible by NOT poking him with a stick every time you see him.

You'd be better off getting your economy straight so you can login and get some active military or at least ammo staged in your countries. Those mobiles won't do you any good if you can't drop them.

Heisenberg

Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 11:35 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm sorry but you keep conflating exactly what is going on here, inventor. My comment you quoted outside the context in which it was written. I was comparing the benefits of both ways of playing and pointing out that war players make much more off leveling up and raiding than eco players do. That's just a fact. I'm sorry you don't see it that way, but I'm not here to talk about your mental deficiencies. Your "so many people" adds up to about ten. That isn't "so many people", it's two handfuls. So many people would be maybe more than 50% of the playerbase or more. Your argument has been and continues to be irrelevant. Your want for war level change is clearly documented. My fighting or lack thereof holds no bearing on my ability to form an opinion after research in both documents and living breathing players.

Let's get one thing straight here, junior. I'm a grown ass man with the ability to reason and pass judgement on a wide variety of topics. Your opinion on my intelligence is not wanted, needed...nor will be heeded. I have spent the last three months or so studying this model, conversing with long time players and getting to the bottom of this issue. And, until now, the only reason you have stated for wanting WL's gone is that you're frustrated that you can't attack anyone. That sounds like a personal problem, not a problem for the community as a whole. My reasoning on the other hand, is expansive and in depth. I'm not often called stupid, but when I am called stupid by an utter moron, I just have to smile.

That said, I already stated I'm done talking to you. I have taken about all the belittlement I plan to, and as I said before....I'll see you soon.

WildStallion

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
Sounds like threats are being made and buttons are being pushed to get a reaction, so the question is - are you going to just be a pawn in somebody's mind games and have your strings pulled like a puppet? Decisions, decisions, just make sure you make the right choice about what you want to happen to War Levels........?

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 07:03 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe it's good if everyone thinks I'm completely incapable of launching any military attack. It's certainly good strategically, maybe I have no war experience at all. Let's just say all my wars have been against inactives that were poorly defended. Let Heisenberg come after me, but for now he hides behind war levels. Heisen I dare you to attack a C3 to get to war level 3. Then I will be happily awaiting the day you declare against me.

Heisenberg I think you should realize why players above war level 2 are still around such as Yankee and me.

Anyway who knows if I even have mobiles? Let's just say I have no military assets and assume the ones I have are just jeeps for decoration. Sounds good to me Heisenberg, we can finally agree on something (I have 0 useful military assets besides a bunch of supply units)

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 07:20 am Click here to edit this post
#60 go off the rails and the topic

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 07:54 am Click here to edit this post
Good point this thread was intended to discuss the rules of war not war levels.

#61 simcountry is to inactive

Heisenberg

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 05:44 pm Click here to edit this post
#62 When you don't realize someone is talking about you :3

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 06:00 pm Click here to edit this post
#63 When someone makes a stupid lie that's obviously not true

Heisenberg

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 06:34 pm Click here to edit this post
Awwww did I hurt your wittle feewings by catching you in a lie?


Good. Choke on it.

Heisenberg

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 06:40 pm Click here to edit this post
#64 When your opponent is nothing but a gaping vagina.

Theinventor1012

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 06:53 pm Click here to edit this post
#65 When your opponent has 0 war experience

Heisenberg

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post
#66 When your opponent's nickname is inventard for a reason.

Letsie

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 10:10 pm Click here to edit this post
#67 when you love conflict
#68 do we even need war?

Eraset

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 10:43 pm Click here to edit this post
#69 <<<<<<< make love not war ?

Yankee

Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 01:18 am Click here to edit this post
#70 Visualize whirled peas ...

Theinventor1012

Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 03:24 am Click here to edit this post
#71 My General told me to start a war because the military needed more funding.

The_Wicked_Lady

Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 04:17 pm Click here to edit this post
#72 Throw shoes. Way more effective and less costly.
#73 Throws a shoe at Inventor and smacks him in the head! :P

Sedwin

Friday, June 16, 2017 - 10:56 pm Click here to edit this post
#55 and #69 are the same :P

#74 burn all shoes! Shoes are a sign of the oppressor!

Eraset

Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 12:30 am Click here to edit this post
i think you missed the joke on #69,

Letsie

Monday, June 19, 2017 - 12:50 am Click here to edit this post
#75 people who are to young to understand the number 69...

Yankee

Monday, June 19, 2017 - 01:25 am Click here to edit this post
#76 People who don't like jokes

Heisenberg

Monday, June 19, 2017 - 01:30 am Click here to edit this post
#77 Veritas.

The_Wicked_Lady

Monday, June 19, 2017 - 08:05 pm Click here to edit this post
#78 I can't even bring myself to repeat what Sedwin said!!!!! It is so blasphemous!!!!!!!!!! SEDWIN MUST DIE!!!!

Sedwin

Monday, June 19, 2017 - 11:39 pm Click here to edit this post
#79 know when you're outgunnend
#80 know when to walk away from a fight...
#81 Sometimes surrender is the best option

Yankee

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 12:56 am Click here to edit this post
#82 Surrender is NEVER an option.

Eraset

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 03:38 am Click here to edit this post
#83 making fun of wooden buckets (a wooden bucket started a war in 1325 ,go figure)

Letsie

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 12:42 pm Click here to edit this post
#84 Fear the emos! (there was a war between emos and the australian army once. Take a geuss who won...)

Letsie

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post
#85 Earthquakes suck!

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 11:23 pm Click here to edit this post
#86 I am the possessor of the Earthquake Button. Andy, my son, the gamemaster, gave it to me for Mother's Day!

Letsie

Friday, June 23, 2017 - 04:25 pm Click here to edit this post
#86 reposting other #...
#87 having to little sleep because THEY farted to loudly

Boone

Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
The best reason to start a war for no reason is because someone said there should be a reason so......I must find this "inventor"

Theinventor1012

Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 07:44 pm Click here to edit this post
#89 someone said there shouldn't be a reason to start a war
#90 because there are 90 reasons why to start a war

Yankee

Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 04:58 pm Click here to edit this post
#91 Your wrong
#92 Because I feel like it

Letsie

Monday, June 26, 2017 - 10:40 am Click here to edit this post
#93 your base are belong to us

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 12:23 am Click here to edit this post
#94 Sends Letsie an earthquake due to reposting another #86! The Wicked Lady is NOT HAPPY!

Let Sie

Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 01:37 am Click here to edit this post
#95 When you get hit by 2 earthquakes in your empire because 'somebody' hit the big red button!
#96 Not knowing where the quake button is
#97 Searching for the quake button
#98 Because a woman made you cry
#99 Because you want peace

Sheepman

Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 03:23 am Click here to edit this post
#100 is offical #88: When they cant fart because they are full of corn

Sheepman

Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 06:15 pm Click here to edit this post
#101 Know the basics of the rules of war; over 100 rules and off topic debates
#102 No corn on the battlefield

Yankee

Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
#103 I happen to want corn on the battlefield

Sheepman

Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 07:34 am Click here to edit this post
#104 repeal #102
#105 states:

Corn on preference on the battlefield, but to much its the enemys advantage, food that doesent digest right might not be, though you can eat it again. The gift that keeps on giving. Also you might find some corn somewhere someone left behind :)

Let Sie

Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 11:41 pm Click here to edit this post
#106 corn is overrated

SuperSoldierRCP

Friday, June 30, 2017 - 06:55 am Click here to edit this post
I can picture it now.

Hundreds, NO THOUSANDS of Precision bombers fly into an enemy country. Fighters and Interceptors clash in an aerial battle of lead and steel, as the bombers fly over major cities. Air raid sirens go off as people run for cover. The bomb bay doors open as millions of tons of corn fall from the sky, driving into the ground like ballistic missiles. Corns pieces everywhere, the cracking and snapping of corn ears as they shatter around them. Losses in the Millions, untold damage to the cities, and the worst part.

Its Genetically modified to be inedible.(MAJOR PLOT TWIST!!!)

The_Wicked_Lady

Friday, June 30, 2017 - 03:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Super! You are a writer at heart!!!!! :-D

Sheepman

Saturday, July 1, 2017 - 11:18 am Click here to edit this post
<3

Such poetry, wisdom; the truth of corn

This is why i love you super :) and you kissy :)

Sheepman Barren

Monday, July 3, 2017 - 07:36 pm Click here to edit this post
#107 if you start an ant farm, gettem da coffee, they turn into race cars

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - 11:04 pm Click here to edit this post
love you too, barry. muah!

Letsie

Thursday, July 13, 2017 - 10:32 pm Click here to edit this post
#108 it's not a multi if nobody finds out.

Theinventor1012

Monday, July 17, 2017 - 12:53 am Click here to edit this post
#109 Did not vote for your candidate

The_Wicked_Lady

Monday, July 17, 2017 - 09:03 pm Click here to edit this post
#110 Barry your avatar is a seizure causing deadly weapon itself!!!! lol WAR!

Let Sie

Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 12:41 am Click here to edit this post
#111 War started because you didn't like a picture.

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 08:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Letsie, what is up wif your name changing? lol You are confusing me! lol

Let Sie

Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 10:30 pm Click here to edit this post
I was editing my profile and was looking what looked better. I forgot that you can only change it 1 per week :( At the end of the week I'm going back to my normal name!

#112 crazy people at work!

The_Wicked_Lady

Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 10:37 pm Click here to edit this post
lol okay. Well the week will be over before you know it! :-)

#113 Amen! to #112

Sheepman Barren

Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 06:30 pm Click here to edit this post
#114 If you multi, dont identically name the units after the logged units in the country you just lost!

Sheepman Barren

Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 06:32 pm Click here to edit this post
#115 my picture is purple, but only contains blue and red

Sheepman Barren

Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 03:21 pm Click here to edit this post
#116 doesent matter if you got the smoking gun, if theres no judge to let you in his court to judge, doesent matter if you can testify if the jury doesent want to hear it.

Theinventor1012

Friday, July 21, 2017 - 01:52 am Click here to edit this post
#117 ethnicity issues


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