W3C - War declarations and War Levels on FB

Declaring war on countries with a much lower or much higher war level just became easier on FB.

The max difference in war levels used to be 9 it is now increased to 11.

I means that a country in war level 14 can declare war on a country in war level 3.

we will introduce another increase next week and in fact eliminate any limitation.

The max difference in war levels on the other worlds is 4.

This too is quite significant.

We had some complaints on limitations in declaring war.
With a difference of 4 war levels, most countries can declare war on most others in all worlds.

Thank you for the change Andy.

When you say eliminate all limitations in the next week, will that include declarations below war level 3? I personally believe there should be zero restrictions on it for FB. The war world should be unforgiving.

We will increase the level difference to 14, and later, if relevant, to a much larger number.

no changes yet to the players under level 3.
even om FB, new players should be protected, allowing them to build up and learn about the war game.

all this is FB only.

on the other worlds, peaceful play will remain an option.
players will be able to play the game without any chance of being attacked as long as they do not start wars.

I suggest to make the change as you propose and check the situation after few months. If nothing changes do a second round of changes.

Excellent Andy.

FB should be the war world again.

I dont think new players should have protection on FB after a certain period of time. Make the new player protection last for one month and then it should be no restriction. We already have 4 worlds with restrictions. Give us one that has the classic sim country feel that everyone loves. The changes you are making will not change very much because 95% of the game will still remain below WL3.

Roll the dice Andy. Take a risk. Make the change and see how it goes. Whats the worst that happens. I foresee new players fighting other new players, which would be so much fun for them and might make them stay. I do not think you will see powerful players destroying new people. It wouldnt be worth the cost. I could see established players raiding inactives though, and that should not be troublesome at all.

John,

This was how it worked in the past and we had a long period of destruction of new players by experienced ones.

We should not go any closer to such a situation.

we will make a first step and revisit in a couple of months.

Oh goodness I guess I will have to buy some weapons or something.

I know, Zentrino! I could very well take you out, just by hurling one of my shoes at you! :P

Beritabegas is just a peace loving people who happen to inhabit a war world. They mean you no harm.

I gues peace loving people on FB should then get themselves temporary war protection.

he he he Zentrino. :-D

So when can we attack C3s at war level three? I'm stuck at war level 14, and no I'm not that experienced. There is no way for me to practice, or obtain smaller counties any longer since my armies are all wiped out in minutes against a level 14 C3. It's really been a drag recently.

I don't want rewards from beating C3s at lower levels, just the ability to conquer, that's all.

@Khome
As mentioned, we're looking into this and will come back with solutions once we have them.
Repeatedly raiding low-level C3s for resources is not something we want to bring back, so we're working on figuring out the best way to avoid that while making easier to expand your empire.

Jonni,

Thank you. That's exactly what I'm hoping for.

we are currently looking into what remains in the C3 country after it is taken by a player.
it seems that a lot of resources are there which in fact means that taking it is about financial gain.

Even with only 10million people in a country, the supplies in that country make it so that you can turn a profit at war lvl 3.

If you want to remove the profit you need to remove 90%+ of the products.

It is hard to assess why the C3 wars are so popular.
I hear what is being said here but "strategic" reasons are not the main issue.

I wonder why it is C3 at war level 3 and not 4 or 5.

For me war lvl 3 is just a random number. Personally I think because lvl 3 is the point a player is taken somewhat serious. You can attack and be attacked by other players and you have waged at least 3 wars and shown that you can win them.

Lets be honest it is not hard to asses why c3 wars were populair. Wars vs c3 countries were for growth and profit. You needed them to grow your population (which is not a problem anymore but it definitely was in the past) or you did it to earn money. Right now it is a LOT easier to earn money and grow a country then say 18 months or even a year ago (and do not get me started about 2/3 years ago). The supplies in a country were worth so much money that it was worth taking over a country transfer as much population as possible and simply selling everything off.

Those were the main reasons in the past. I do not think either one of them is still (very) relevant these days. If you thi

As a side note: you know these things Andy but I am ok with posting it so that you do not have to ;)

yeah, it's not like it has to be level 3. 4 or even 6 are fine also. It's not like we are looking for too easy. We just want the ability to take land without having to spend a day clicking and going bankrupt over it.
But I hope something is figured out. I'd get my interest back into the game which kind of sunk in recent months.

amen khome

Well said Letsie.
we listen.

The fun of war is indeed a very good reason but farming should not be a reason.

we are preparing for such a feature.
need to tune many related features and check for loop holes but I am for it.