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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
26 Nov 2019 03:24Link
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Chemicals are in high demand yet unprofitable.

Andy can we get a price point above the break even mark?
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John Galt

All worlds
26 Nov 2019 11:04Link
Almost all the supplies needed for chemicals are raw materials, that's probably the reason why it can't turn a profit with CEO anymore.
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Daniel Iceling

All worlds
26 Nov 2019 18:17Link
It's not just CEOs.
My Chemicals Corps have
revenue 4,268.10M SC$
expenses 4,054.73M SC$

For a profit of about $200 million, at max price. Most Corp types I make between $700mil-$1bil, at max price. I think John Galt is correct, that the increases to Mining Product prices, haven't been matched by enough increase in Chemical prices.
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Andy

All worlds
25 Dec 2019 17:22Link
Chemical, after a very long period of shortages, were recently in oversupply and the price of the product declined.

now, shortages are back and the price is up again.

I assume that the corporations are now profitable.
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John Galt

All worlds
25 Dec 2019 21:53Link
It is not profitable at the maximum price for CEOs. Trust me.
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dubletar

All worlds
26 Dec 2019 01:04Link
Chemicals are currently horrible corps. All chemical corps I had ran negatives, consistently. I've been eliminating them from all accounts.
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dubletar

All worlds
26 Dec 2019 02:40Link
Fully upgraded Chemicals corp in Doublestar Republic...

Corp name: Ashdod Chemicals

so hgdftgjhff
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Andy

All worlds
30 Dec 2019 14:05Link
Just looked into KB.
Chec=micals are in short supply.
the price is at max.

on WG, it was at max several game months ago.
declining now.

chemical will rebalance and probably show shortages as the entire market is returning to more shortages.

There are no guarantees as you know.

this is an essential part of Simcountry.
there is a market and it goes its own way.

Natural resources cause some changes in the production model.
we don't really know.

We think that another trigger was a decline in the number of corporations and some decline of population in mainly C3 countries.
Many C3 countries had far too many corporations and we require higher employment levels before new corporations start.

This should not result in any imbalance.

smaller number of corporations, producing more per corporation.
smaller population numbers, producing less and consuming less.
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John Galt

All worlds
30 Dec 2019 20:57Link
Andy. Chemicals on LU for CEOs is not profitable at peak price. The corporations lose around 4 billion per year.
This is happening because the majority of the raw materials required for chemicals are in the mining sector, which
has seen major price increases since the natural resources update. What you are saying about chemicals is not
based on reality. The situation for chemicals will never improve unless either the price of mining goods comes down
(which it never will due to the lack of production), or the price of chemicals goes up.
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Daniel Iceling

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 03:10Link
Andy, John Galt,

John has a point. To be clear, people aren't saying that Chemicals are performing poorly due to having low prices, because of surpluses.
Rather that the base price/production/consumption/hiring levels, make Chemicals a bad product to produce, even when Chemicals are selling for max price.

Presidents can make very small profits on Chemicals selling at max price.
However, CEO's will always lose money on Chemicals.

There are two main causes for this...

1). Chemials use a lot of Mining Products as inputs, which have had their 'base/max' price increased. Meanwhile 'base/max' price of Chemicals has not kept up.

Proposed Solution.
Reduce the quantity of Mining Products, required by Chemical Corporations per month.
This would bring base profitability of Chemicals in line with other products, while still allowing Mining Products to have a high base/max price.
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Lord Mndz

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 07:22Link
I very much agree with Daniel, this revenue cost based price is very bad for my CEO and I would be wiling to pay taxes based on profit but not revenue which hurts me a lot.

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Letsie

All worlds
01 Jan 2020 11:34Link
I’ve dumped all my chem corps because of this. It is not possible to turn a profit on them with ceo’s