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IPO Requirements

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John Galt

Tuesday, February 18, 2020 - 01:08 pm Click here to edit this post
I think the IPO requirements need to be adjusted in light of all the recent changes to products and prices. Most well performing corporations in a CEO end up with a market value of around 400-500B and a P/E ratio of 45-50. The only corporations that are able to consistently get their P/E ratios below 40 to trigger an IPO are ones that have recently had their market value drop significantly due to surplus, and then have their P/E ratio drop significantly when the product goes back into shortage. I think the IPO requirements should be adjusted to the following:

Market Value > 300B
P/E Ratio < 50

This will mostly be for the benefit of CEOs. It is very easy to IPO with countries because the P/E ratios are much better due to no country resources fee.



Tuesday, February 18, 2020 - 01:57 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree. The last change the GM's maid for IPO's was useless for CEO's.
As you said the problem lies in the country resource fee lowering the net profit for Ent corps, what the P/E ratio is based on.
A lot of corporations use EBITA to measure their profitability. It is earnings before interest, taxes and amortization.
If the P/E ratio in the game used total profit rather than net then it would be fair to both countries and CEO's.

Lord Mndz

Tuesday, February 18, 2020 - 06:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I have already requested this long time ago, together with many more CEO improvements..

you can find many more wishes.

CEO improvements


Monday, March 23, 2020 - 10:34 pm Click here to edit this post
yea the P/E does need to be loosened up some of the less profitable corps hang around the 60 P/E


Monday, March 30, 2020 - 05:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Enterprises tax has no influence on the market value of corporations.

The tax level you set yourself, for any corporation does.

The market value for all corporations depends on the net profit, after tax.

There are more factors contributing to the market value of corporations.
One is indeed market situation but there are more.

we have in the past made changes to the IPO conditions.
These depended on the average market value we have seen and was sometimes triggered by players who argued that the CEO conditions are wrong.

I will look into it.
I do not think that corporation values will be depressed because of surpluses in the market. I think in general, that the markets have more shortages than surpluses.

Also, corporations producing products that show a surplus, should probably not go public.

John Galt

Monday, March 30, 2020 - 07:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Andy you are right about enterprise tax. However that is not the culprit. It is actually country resources used fee, which is part of the calculation for net profit. This is the main factor that makes it very difficult to IPO CEO corporations because it makes the P/E ratio much higher.

Lord Mndz

Monday, March 30, 2020 - 08:36 pm Click here to edit this post
I have the picture in the link few posts above showing exactly why ipo for CEOs is unfair to compare with state corporations


Thursday, April 2, 2020 - 02:12 pm Click here to edit this post
but the solution is in reviewing the IPO requirements.

Indeed, CEO corporations are very profitable for you, make your enterprises turn a high profit
at the same time
they help many countries with needed cash injections.

checking and maybe changing the IPO conditions will be a small price to pay.

I am open to suggestions that are balanced, not just based on what you wish for your own situation.

John Galt

Thursday, April 2, 2020 - 05:31 pm Click here to edit this post
You seem hellbent on making your own game terrible. I will just leave you to it. I will no longer post any suggestions to the game. There is no point. It feels like I am talking to a bot sometimes. I will be going into hibernation mode until things improve.

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