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Why corporates do not make profit when selling to countries ?

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Myers

All worlds
14 Oct 2022 04:46Link
World: Fearless Blue
CEO: FB CEO 002


If ANY of these corps sells to market, when there is shortage for that product, it will make profit each month.

Now, if I make full contract to the CEO (Contract production to 'FB CEO 002' and accept), each corp end with loses every month.


The thing is, whether sellling to the market on shortage or directly to the CEO, the Product Price Received is literally the same.

I'm failing to understand then, why if the corp sells it products with the same price why selling to the market generates profit and to the CEO doesn't.

Thank you
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Aries

All worlds
14 Oct 2022 23:09Link
Contracted product income is delayed a month. So, it can depend on where you are looking. Over time, the selling price should be identical.

If you reach me in Discord, I can take a look for you.
M
Myers

All worlds
24 Oct 2022 19:29Link
Helo Andy, can you please check this? I have already lost +40T game cash and I keep losing a lot more because of this.

All my ceo corps are having negative profit but the sales price is same as if I sell these products onto the market.

Thank you


World: Fearless Blue
CEO: FB CEO 002
Corps: +90% of all those corps, if not all
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johnV

All worlds
25 Oct 2022 10:17Link
For most products the market price has to be in the top quarter of it's price range for the corp to make a profit.
You will not make a profit on precision bombers until the price increases.
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Aries

All worlds
25 Oct 2022 10:36Link
I have contacted Myers in Discord. My impression is his confusion stems from a misunderstanding of the difference of a market shortage and the current market price. They influence each other, but aren't the same thing. ie. Just because a product is currently in shortage does not mean that you will make money by selling that product right now.
M
Myers

All worlds
27 Oct 2022 16:29Link
Hello, it took me some time and I thought Aries and JohnV were not right this time. However as I said, it took me some time but they were right.

I know where to direct my efforts now, thank you both.
Have a nice day,
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Andy

All worlds
28 Oct 2022 15:00Link
Thank you guys for your help.

I would like to add that it is indeed more difficult to make high profits from contracts than from sales on the market.

the main reason for it is that we are limiting the price range of products that are sold or bought in contracts.

In the past, (very long time ago), it was not limited and it was used, or misused, to crate absurd contracts that benefited one party, and caused the other party to bankrupt.
False accounts were created for this to take place, then discarded after all money was pumped out of the country.

We had to put limits to prevent abuse but in the process, introduced limitations.

we do not like these limitations but have no other way.
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Myers

All worlds
28 Oct 2022 19:30Link
Cool, we were both right then. The income/profit when doing direct contracts between corps and countries/ceos is smaller than when offering to the market.

And at the same time, like Aries and johnV mentioned, rather than product having shortage or surplus what it matter most is the market price at the time of the contact execution.

Thank you again to all,
Regards
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Andy

All worlds
02 Nov 2022 17:31Link
Most contract trade products that remain in the same account.
Either between corporations in the same country or between countries in the same account.

In these cases, the availability of the products is more important than the price.

You may sell for less but the buyer, same account, will benefit, paying less.