W3C - Tiny Atlas & other features

Tiny Atlas is now running for some time and many small issues and problems seem to be resolved.
many of the issues we encountered were caused by the very small numbers of population and facilities in countries on Tiny Atlas.

There are well developed countries now on Tiny Atlas and the new product, Targon is produced in increasing quantities.

What's next

we have now added a new weapon and a new type of ammunition, using Targon.
a next update, will introduce this new weapon into the war process.

Two more rare metals will be discovered on Tiny Atlas soon and also Uranium in larger quantities than available on the other planets and at a lower price.

The new metals will be used in the production process of more products, including electric cars, large electric storage power banks and more.

We will introduce the storage of electric power as a function in countries.
Our intention is also to col

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In general, Tiny Atlas will become more strategic and being Tiny, resources might be scarce.<!-/Quote-!>

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There are well developed countries now on Tiny Atlas and the new product, Targon is produced in increasing quantities.<!-/Quote-!>

Considering that I'm 3 times larger than the next player. I'm ok with the basic concept. But with my population ever increasing, and creating am ever increasing burden on the rest of my account, some things should be re-considered.

I ask, that we be allowed to sell pop out of TA, to maintain managable pop levels.

I also ask, that Targon be allowed to be sold on the space station for GC.

Both these changes fall under the category, of "The riches of Tiny Atlas." As in, you brave the extreme challenges of TA, a

Also, would you please add the targon weapon to the documentation, so that we can see what it does?

We think that there are reasons to keep the population.
We have provided the population transfer for free, selling population is not a good idea because it is suppressing the entire economy by seriously reducing the welfare index. (The population does not like to be sold).

Numbers in many countries on TA declines because of low education and health index.

New functions will require more corporations.
Targon will be needed in larger quantities and more rare metals too.
iWe will add more natural resources on TA.

We also hope that at some point, many products will be produced on TA and allow the market to function.

Selling Targon on a space station will be added a little later.
we allow the producers of Targon to have the Tagon weapons as a bonus for their huge efforts in getting to TA and moving all these products around.

The weapons manual is updated.
The update will become part of the

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We also hope that at some point, many products will be produced on TA and allow the market to function.<!-/Quote-!>

The flaw with this, is that, until countries are making a profit, no one will be able to go above GL2, to build these corps your talking about.

opps, double post

I doubt the Tiny Atlas economy will ever become truly sustainable. The Simcountry economy is designed with structural overconsumption / underproduction.

The Simcountry economy would collapse into endless, extreme shortages of everything, were it not for the GMs intervention, by adding products that are in shortage each month, to allow orders to be filled.

Because that function doesn't operate on Tiny Atlas, the planet will always consume far more than it can possibly produce, preventing it's markets from ever becoming truly functional.

What i'm seeing, i'm not sure thats true. maybe, maybe not. theirs more to it than that. but honestly, i don't think that the player base has the skill, cooperation, and drive.

I reduced my salaries from 330, to 120, my country now at 45m, has been growing a short 1M a day. My jewerly consumption dropped from 260ish, to 100. which means, that with high salaries, it'd take more than 3 corps to supply my empire, with low salaries, it'll take one. with the higher salaries, the extra production, does not equal the reduced consumption of lower salaries. you can see my saying allot of this, like 8 years ago in the LU thread, "pissing contest." the standard way of doing things, isn't always the best.

But independently of this, (yes, just before i made the salary change,) I was making +17B, because I know how to make money off of country supplies. then the GM tightened some nut somewhere, a

I'm just doing it for the lulz and possible space fighters.

I am around 3m in population and surviving.

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Theirs allot of ins and outs in this game, that most people never notice. because anytime something goes wrong, we just blame the GM. the wind farm thing for instance... folks actually didn't connect buying wind farms to increasing gov cost, and blamed the GM. <!-/Quote-!>

That's because of a lack of information provided to the players, which is arguably still a reason to blame the GM. We can only base our knowledge off of what goes on.
And it's still broken by the way, my main country spends 30B buying wind turbines and that counts directly against the profitability of that country. The power produced by those wind farms is never reaccounted for, thus my country is permanently at a net loss even though it's (supposedly) making money. I have no idea though, because there's no screen showing: 1) how much power they provide per month and 2)

And seeing as the "finance" index is for some reason accounted for in the welfare index, my entire country suffers because of this "net loss" that doesn't even really exist. It's honestly very frustrating, and the fact it still hasn't been fixed is surprising.

they've told us, that each WF makes 1.25k EP.

setting it up right, with 100 WFs for instance. means you use ~100wt, at 120q, and 59M price, the WT consumption would cost 7B a month. Selling at max 200Q, generates 78B, for a 71B profit, or 0.7B per farm. and all the info here, is either basic mechanics, or things the GM has said.

and everytime the the players complain, the GM make adjustments, that make me more profitable....

Sure, Andy's said it, but where does the game itself tell you any of that? Why do I need to go diving through the forums trying to find that information?
I know he's said they're gonna make an electricity page, but it's been almost an entire year since these wind parts came out.

And it doesn't matter that the farms themselves are profitable. It absolutely DESTROYS my country's bottomline because the electricity made by the farms is never accounted for in the country's financials. My financial index is 70 on my main country because of the stupid wind farms and I can't even change that since there's no way to get rid of the farms.

This would be less of an issue if financial index didn't also show up in the level calculations. Which are for score. Which are for rewards.

People who use this feature are screwing themselves over.

ok, i was writing up some stuff, because you do have some good points, and full on got me with one, i came back in like feb, i haven't been back a year. so i will take a bite of crow, and eat my words, at least with that one.

but something you said, made me stop, and delete everything. well 2 things you said.

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my main country spends 30B buying wind turbines and that counts directly against the profitability of that country.<!-/Quote-!>

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i didn't catch it at first, because i calculate my wt cost very differently.

but a 30B cost, is dropping you to 70?

My main, on LU, "Project 1" has 1k WF, with a 78B monthly cost. and has a FI of 1