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souemyss

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03 Jan 2025 08:34Link
well gave TA a run with a war against a C3 and omg... what a mess ... i don't know where to start with the glitches
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hymy1

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05 Jan 2025 19:25Link
Okay, I'm confused why you and Laguna have both had trouble with this. So I'm hoping one of you can clarify it for me. I just declared war so I could assess the situation. My radar planes are still on a slow cargo run from KB, though. But I should be able to soon see the garrison situation.

This is the configuration I see so far:

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I don't see a heli unit, so if it's like other WL1 -3 wars I've done, it should only require a few hundred heavy tanks or arty, done in 15 mins sorta thing.

What am I missing?
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hymy1

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05 Jan 2025 19:27Link
I figure most of that will just self dismantle before I even get there.
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souemyss

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07 Jan 2025 12:00Link
for me it's some objects are labeled wrong on the map and the list
so basically the capital is hidden for example
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hymy1

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08 Jan 2025 01:59Link
Yep Andy,

You need to fix this. Its the same multiple and linked map objects that you fixed for my country in the past.

it wouldn't really be a problem except that there is almost not enough targets in a C3 on TA to allow you to win a war, and this bug takes away targets that a player could attack.

I doubt that anyone but very skilled and determined warlord could finish a war on TA. Any progress I could make involves a url hacking/marco polo approach to get a lock on phantom positions and then attack them.

Unfortunately, in my case that phantom target has a garrison I wasn't prepared for. So I cannot test further, I might cargo some stealth fighters though. Unless someone on TA wants to kick me over some, for testing.

Please correct this, GM.
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souemyss

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08 Jan 2025 12:58Link
I got a few..
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hymy1

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10 Jan 2025 22:38Link
I've done a thorough analysis including messing around with client side code modification.

I don't think you can win a war on TA at this time.

I came very close, but the longer it drags on the more impossible it becomes.

If anyone else tries, I recommend that you plan to complete it within the month. Also, choose a target that has as many targets as possible. If I had had even one or two more targets to to attack in the first month, I might have made it.

If you get close, you can look at the source code of that war window to get some idea of what targets you can hit as well as their target id number. From there you can open the attack window frame into a new window and modify the url to change the target id. Then you just have reason out it's location based on distance and moving around to pin it down and kill it. You wont see the result of your attacks unless you minimize the log, and then maximize it to for
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hymy1

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10 Jan 2025 22:43Link
Andy could you please let us know when this is fixed.
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Andy

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11 Jan 2025 09:03Link
hymy,

I just placed an update on TA on the forum.
we will fix the war problem on TA ASAP.

I think that your comment about finishing the war in a single game month is crucial.

Because of the very limited size of countries and in order to keep them standing, a correction mechanism runs each game month and checks many values in each C3 country and makes many corrections.

The war damage from the previous month, results in some corrections and is probably the cause of the problem.

If the war if finished in a single month, the correction process does not have time to intervene.

So this is where we will look for the reason for the problem.

However, there are hundreds of small corrections that add up and by the end of that process there might be no trace of the ongoing war and damage from the previous month.

I already started some of these corrections.
They also fit in our intention to
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hymy1

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11 Jan 2025 18:27Link
That explains the the strong bounce back they exhibit. But, you need to also fix the targets that get joined together, and the targets that can't be attacked because they are not in the index.
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souemyss

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11 Jan 2025 21:11Link
i also agree with this the targets not being listed and being joined with others is a big problem too
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Andy

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12 Jan 2025 10:14Link
One of the reasons for the problem with targets could be associated with a correction effort to keep the cities in the country.

some of the corrections yesterday include:

- increasing the population numbers in C3 countries on TA,
- Leaving the cities alone and letting the month processing do its job.

maps could repair themselves or they are damaged beyond repair.

we will check tomorrow and if damaged, we will wipe that map layer out
and recreate it from scratch.
That process will probably resolve the problem.

Before, we will keep looking at the relevant parts of the repair process on TA and might remove parts of it.
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Andy

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13 Jan 2025 09:04Link
We have made some changes and removed some "Repair" functions.

if the map confusion continuing?
I saw a an error with a space center but it disappeared.
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souemyss

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16 Jan 2025 00:09Link
Yes still confusing
I still don't know where my capital is for example
A lot is still mislabeled including nearby countries
I'm afraid of wasting more assets on a war on TA
I spent weeks moving weapons there and it just seemed like a waste of time..
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Hard enough selling off weapons with the sales caps too I'm drowning in deficits

It was a lot of effort that didn't payoff so it's disappointing
I don't know what's next for me
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Andy

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16 Jan 2025 09:11Link
There is a problem on TA and it will be resolved.

we think that the source of the problem is already largely fixed but that the results are not reversed yet.

please let me know the name of the country where you do not know where the capital is.

mentioning a problem without a location does not allow us to look into it.

when we have enough data from our logs, we will probably regenerate all maps on TA early next week.
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Andy

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23 Jan 2025 18:00Link
The Tiny Atlas maps will be redrawn coming Monday, Jan. 27.

We hope that the repaint will fix the map problems and allow a
normal war process on TA.
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souemyss

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25 Jan 2025 15:00Link
Thanks!!
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hymy1

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28 Jan 2025 00:13Link
It would seem this redraw isn't happening?
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souemyss

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28 Jan 2025 04:19Link
guess not... :\
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souemyss

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30 Jan 2025 04:46Link
andy.... this has been going on for almost a month... this is crazy!!!
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Andy

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30 Jan 2025 17:24Link
Maps were repainted the day before yesterday.
We have done some checking of countries and looked for problems.
we have no known cases where the maps are wrong.

you probably do have them.

please give us the name of a country where the map is wrong, or has another issue with war.

please specify the country name
and one of the problems you have.
Map item name, type etc.

we will try to find out what the problem is.
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Andy

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30 Jan 2025 17:29Link
TA, as we said before, was not intended to run wars.

However, we think that war should be possible. There is nothing there that makes wars impossible.

there were several wars in the early days of TA and there was no problem.

this is an error and it should be resolved of course but we have no specific data and currently, no examples of countries where the problem can be viewed.
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hymy1

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30 Jan 2025 19:42Link
The kingdom of mentalak is not remapped
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souemyss

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31 Jan 2025 03:48Link
most items labeled wrong, impossible to find DPs,I tried everything
Every country encountered has a capital that is mislabeled and can't be found. Once a war is declared, several more items then become mislabeled, army units become stationary objects, etc..


The countries are as follows:

The Democratic Union of Narasos

The Empire of Zelsod

The Independent State of Pergo lin

The Democratic Union of Onigra

The Democratic Union of Xilipo

The Kingdom of Mentana

pretty much all of Paova Major Continent and the Great Almond Region

Is this enough info? Can I gather anymore that would help identify the issue?