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Welfare index question

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Christopher Neuhofel

Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 08:01 am Click here to edit this post
So I have 2 countries, The Neuhofel Consortium, and Escapalia, the 2nd being a slave country I conquered. I run all the indexes at the same level, all the salaries, the only real difference is the war index, and the population over all, but my welfare index for my main country is falling below 110. Im not sure why and I keep checking and rechecking everything that controls that index and they are not fluctuating but the welfare continues to drop in only the main country. to a point where my corporations are down to 113% production, yet in my slave country, with a lower pop and all the same indexes for health and education and all that are the same, they all run at 116-118% im confused on why this is. and 2-3 days ago my main country was running production at 116% as well, so its declining rapidly for no reason, along with my welfare index. any help would be appreciated :) thanks

Teh Kilrain

Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 02:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Indices in both your countries are dropping because you recently did population transfers in both. When you do that you dilute all your existing indices, which will in turn lower your welfare. It gradually will settle lower after a period of game years if you do nothing. The quick answer is to raise your indices back up again starting with that transportation index that's dropped below 100. When your employment gets back above about 93% or so you can boost your social security payments to raise that index as well.


Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 10:57 pm Click here to edit this post

another thing to check would be your supply qualities, for you countries. high supply Q can also effect your country welfare.

click on "Business and Trade Index," and look at the "Consumption Quality Index" that might be a factor.

you can adjust this, via the trade menu, "order strategy, and quality." buy adjusting the Quality level of monthly supplies, such as construction. things like construction, services, and books and news papers, that have a low price tag, are safe to buy HQ, while things with high price tags, and lower consuption, like cars, or jewelry, you can save money buy buying them at a low Q.

also, check your corporation, and government salaries, they play an important role in country welfare, the higher the salary, the higher the country welfare. its kinda a double effect on corps, increasing the indivual corps welfare, as well as the countries, which effects the corps.

Borg Queen

Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post
Chris: You welfare is only so low because of your low Transportation-Index!
The Pop-Transfer only affects the Welfare when you put Pop out of the Country, not if you buy.
And your Consumption-Index is quite good.

The welfare index is taking the lowest value of several other indexes:

The health index
The Education Index
The Transportation index
The Supply index + 40
The Employment index + 35
The Social Security Index + 40
The Government Salary Index + 25

So as you can see your low Trans-Index of 101.45 is what is keeping the Welfare down. All other Indexes would get you to about 120, on that Point your supply-index would Keep it at that Level as it is only 80 (80+40=120)

Teh Kilrain

Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 03:26 pm Click here to edit this post
"The Pop-Transfer only affects the Welfare when you put Pop out of the Country, not if you buy."

Not so sure about that. Whenever I bring pop in I take a slight hit across the board.

Borg Queen

Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 06:59 pm Click here to edit this post
well, if you bring Pop in it actually lowers all other Indexes, as those peeps dont bring their hospitals, Schools and such, I guess thats what really causes the small hits when bringing Pop in, but as on itself it doesnt directly affect welfare, only indirectly through those other indexes

Christopher Neuhofel

Friday, August 30, 2013 - 12:56 am Click here to edit this post
thank you, I wasn't paying attention to my transportation index >< trying to keep everything up, but health care costs so damned much, tryin to get it to atleast 180 but my hospitals far exceed 200% of needed, how does it define the index for health care?

Christopher Neuhofel

Friday, August 30, 2013 - 01:28 am Click here to edit this post
And now my welfare index is 112% and rising, but my production for my corporations is still at 113% does this rise far slower than the changes I make? because newer companies are at 114%
and my slave country fell and rose but the production stayed at 116% the whole time, is there something I need to fix to increase my production?

Borg Queen

Friday, August 30, 2013 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
Production in Corps is depending on Welfare of the Country the Corp is located at and the Salary but not linear.
My Main Country:
Welfare index ~134.5
Corp Salary 350
Corp Production ~128

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