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Numbers just doesn't add up

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Jaffe Joffer

Saturday, April 5, 2014 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post
So, been playing this game for a couple of weeks now, and find it interresting. However, there are some problems. User interface is, to put it mildly, not good. If I continue to play the game, I'll get back to more of those issues later.

For now I'll just address a small thing concerning loss and profit of corperations. The corperation page is very confusing, and I struggle to find the numbers of interrest. Gross profit/loss and net profit/loss, is, in my opinion, the most important things to look for in any corperation. Real or not. In my corperation pages, I can take a look at the page "Cash and Debt" to see "profit last month". But numbers just doesn't add up if I take a closer look on the corperation homepage.

An example:
Cash at start of previous month 52,569.40M SC$

Salaries Paid -396.82M SC$
Interest Paid 0.00M SC$
Country Resources Used -375.74M SC$
Fixed Property Cost -199.52M SC$
Maintenance Products Bought -101.35M SC$
Raw Materials Bought -2,769.13M SC$
Raw Materials Sold 0.00M SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00M SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00M SC$
Tax Paid -295.40M SC$
Profit Payment Paid -664.64M SC$
Upgrades Bought 0.00M SC$
Damage Repair Paid 0.00M SC$
Products Sold 2,683.87M SC$
Manual Cash Transfers 0.00M SC$
Automatic Cash Transfers 0.00M SC$
Income New/Cost of Retracting Shares 0.00M SC$

Cash beginning of this month 50,450.67M SC$

Now. Net profit is "the bottom line". Money made after ALL expences have been paid. Agreed? Subtracting the "Cash at start of previous month" from "Cash beginning of this month" should give you the net profit. Still agreed? So 50,450.67-52569.4 = -2118.73
In other words: A net loss of 2118.73M

Gross proit/loss. This is net profit minus taxes, interest and profit payment. Agreed? In this case this adds up to -3078.77
In other words: A gross loss of 3078.77M

These numbers are very different from any other profit/loss calculations found on this company.

Anyone want to take an educated guess at what the game suggests as a profit/loss in the example...?

I've checked other companies, and numbers doesnt match up there either. Some are close(but never accurate). Some are very different.

I've also inspected sales and purchases for the corporations I've checked, but fail to find any unusual income or expence.

I really want to like this game. But it really shouldnt be necesarry to use excel, pen and paper and a calculator at the same time, just to figure out the correct key numbers and statistics.


Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 09:04 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, yes the financial information has been improved recently but it still seems to have some accuracy problems.

With the above example, it does look like your company has lost money, but check to see if all the product was actually sold at this point. Often, if you check before the 10th of the month or so, the product won't have actually sold yet, or not entirely.

Is this a newer corporation? They tend to become more profitable as they upgrade.

I don't really look so closely at my corporations any longer (as I have over a thousand) but in general corporations will be profitable once they've upgraded a bit and if they are producing products which are in demand. There have been exceptions to this though. Also, the market is extremely weak right now.

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