The Anti Communist League (recruiting) (Little Upsilon)

Would anybody like to join my anti communist league? its not capitalist, just as long as you're anti communist you can come and join me whether you are a democracy, dictatorship or a kingdom for example.

Or a fascist state, aristocracy or theocracy.

James i am currently not in a fed on LU, i use my simple LU country for econ but when the time comes i could provide some defense.

I'm a communist in the trrue sense of the word. I think many leaders have given communism a bad name but I've never liked the anti-communist propaganda in the West.

Communism needs good leaders not power hungry dictators.

It never will get the good leaders it needs as it is a dangerous and poisoning ideology where people will never have any kind freedom in private ownership like properties or businesses. It only benefits the useless low lifes and for those who have nothing, owns nothing and never will own nothing, this is all just jellousy towards the higher and better classes of society. God help Great Britain if Ed Milliband of the labour party ever gets into power, as he is a well known Leftist/Marxist as well as his brother and father who are also involved in politics too.

The "higher" and "better" classes drive up property prices, forcing small businesses out of business and people to live in poor quality housing, pay morally wrong smaller proportion in taxes than the very poor.

Without the people at the "bottom", the rich could not be rich. They need the people to exploit as employees and then to buy the goods/services.

After reading this, I'm becoming a communist.

I'd love to see the "higher" and "better" classes try to grow their own food, or build their own mansions, or manufacture their own luxury products, and deliver them to all their other "higher" and "better" friends.

The only thing "higher" and "better" about them is that they're carried on the shoulders of everyone else.

When I say the "higher" and "better classes" I mean the ones who earns a decent living by working for an employer, or running their own little businesses (like I have myself). Also those who generally own their own properties or at least paying a mortagage. Not the ones who live away in big huge mansions from reality, dining in complete snobbery and accent with all their fancy knives and forks on the table, I never liked anyone whos shows off their wealth that way as I concider it arrogant, nor do I like the fucking the damn low lifes who take drugs like weed and crack on a daily basis, who live in rent free council houses just because they have a kid aged under 3, I know one who does exactly that and this is in the hundreds of thousands of people who live in this country.

I thought you were a communist David anyway, why the hell would you care about small businesses? i'm against big international commercial business just like you are. I thought you would have been for the "workers" type or those who are in the "Unions". But just remember if a country ever went communist, it means such as all businesses, Properties and cars, big or small would all be owned by "the State". No way would I want my home and car to be owned by the country as thats just pure oppression of the people.

I supposed after what i've said, I would probulary fit in somewhere in the middle of the social ladder? like everyone else should be, hardly no low lifes or rich people to the seen, that would be a dream come true.

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LOL... funny!

I'm true communist not one you hear aboutin Russia or China. I believe in people power not state power.

In terms of small businesses, I believe the local community should own the buildings and then decides upon the use etc. That mean no unscrupulous landlords. There would social entrepreneurs but not driven by profit.

Everybody would have the opportunity to contribute and thus have a home and provisions. There'd be no unemployment and thus no institutionalised underclass.

I'm an accountant by trade but I'd rather account for the good done in a community than the number of people exploited.

Depower the state and empower communities.

Can I join and help stomp out communism from this world?

BTW, with out the people at the top, the "higher" and "better" people of this world, there would be no one to purchase the mansions, invest in farms, and buy all the luxury goods. That means those "poor people" working to make them those items will be with out a job.
When all things are equal, quality of life of all will revert to the lowest common denominator, Cambodia is a prime example. Plus history has proven, in order to enforce the equal rights and belongings, requires a brutal regime to enforce the status quo.
A form of socialism in a communal setting works as long as each member knows and interacts with each other. A community garden is a perfect example. Members can enforce the rules one on one, minimizing waste and abuse, but once people are just merely 1 of millions, proper enforcement does not work.
Im not once of those rich people, but I would one day wish to be one.

Theres far too many rich people in this world as well as many too poor, only the the rich people such as the monarchy and the aristocrats in a country should be rich who would only make up 1% of the country anyway if not less than that.

But i'm sure the number of people who consider themselves rich in my country for example is something like 10 to 20%, thats far too many, and the number who consider themselves poor is something like 25 to 30%, far too many again but all I do know is, is that theres awful lot of people who live in poverty in my part of the country.

So to be right the number of people who consider themselves to be rich or poor should be no more than 5% each, as for all the rest of the population they should be somewhere in between.

We all know that it will never get anywhere near that without a proper organised incorruptible national government getting elected into power.

Just like you say David. Depo

A Syllogism

All institutions are created by human endeavors
Humans are imperfect
Therefore,
All institutions are imperfect.

These are my basic assumptions about institutions such communism, capitalism, the free market, religion etc. There may be a kernal of truth and hope embedded in them but they are all imperfect in their implimentation. And some are worse than others. Since this thread is about communism, let's focus on it. Communism has as it's primary thesis that capitalism is oppressive to the workers and thus should be overthrown by violent revolution. But that revolution isn't exclusive of the rich. We see in the Soviet Union that Stalin executed millions of peasants along with the captalists and middle class. The same holds true in China where upwards of over 20million were killed, most of whom were peasants. Mao excuse, "oh we've got lots of peasants so the end justifies the means." On

To aspire to greater things is human nature. You can never legislate against, or oppress, that.

Parsifal, a short insightful piece. Your last sentence is particularly poignant and important.. Violence doesn't win a revolutiuon of the minds and neither does propaganda.

I'm fighting to win the local control of land and buildings by buying up property with community funds and placing them into a trust to prevent them from being sold and only being used for the benefit of the community. The community will have the right to decide even in a capitalist system. I have support from the poor to the well-off. I always felt that as an accountant my office cleaner was worth no less than I.

I think people are euqual and if working a full-time week should get full-time benefits and not to one's supply/demand value.

I have serious health conditions and volunteer my time on community projects and work as many hours as the doctor allows. My own government in the UK:

Has cut my monthly support by £50 pm

yours is a very compelling story. I'm a community organizer here in the states. I work with the poor to help them organize for power. It's a bottoms up approach to organizing people who are marginalized. There are some books that you might be interested in:

Effective Organizing for Congregational Renewal, by Michael Gecan and anything on Appreciative Inquiry by David Cooperrider el al. They both use a narrative methodoligy getting people in groups to tell their story like "what are the pressures on you and your family" It then moves towards identifiying leaders, then making a power analysis of who can make decisions for change and then the group makes a plan to implement actions to bring about change.

Good luck to you and I have a lot of respect for what you're trying to do. And I believe it can be done.

I wish you well in your work and hope you get good results. It's the best wayt for the poor to fight back, is to organise and be pro-active, but it can be difficult with low morale.

Thanks, I've noted the books. They sound interesting.

Here, here Crafty!

No matter the law, no matter the country's obssession with money, one's mind is free to think and collaborate.

Labour is ultimately free at the end of the day and used in the right way can create alternatrive systems within a country for the benefit of the communities they serve.

Or maybe there should be policy where individual businessmen are only allowed to get so big and stop them from getting out of control such as

1) Up to how many properties or businesses a landlord is allowed to own

2) Or a maximum wage cap of how much people are allowed to earn. For instance (Bank Managers)

I could go on and on with this.

the problem is not necessarily about size. it's about ethics. i know small landlords who are the biggest slum lords and most unethical person imaginable. i also know large landlords who conduct themselves with great ethics. competition can actually eliminate a lot of the greed by forcing people to adhere to the market. Houston does not have zoning and it works well. There are other ways the city controls development but in inner city slums gentrification is taking place. of course, this creates other problems of displacing the poor, often into the suburbs where transportation is crappy.

If you anti-communist, you are always capitalist.