| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 09:00 pm |
Some of us in the chat decided it would be fun to have a North American vs. European clash on KB. This won't involve current feds or feuds, it will be players from each continent (NA and Europe) allied and fighting players of the other continent. The venue will be Kebir Blue | Hercula Major | Cabana Magnifica. It's large, mostly empty, and pretty open.
Slave countries only (so there can be no Secured Mode). War won't start immediately because we want to have time to get everybody ready. We'll figure all of that out later. We're going to try and keep everybody congregated - NA in the west and EU in the east.
So if you want to join in then start a country soon. Please sign here if you want to join in so we can know who to expect.
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:08 pm |
Can we have a rule about no strategic weapons or navies? If so, i'm in.....
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:20 pm |
Yeah, I meant to say something about that. Out of respect for the rest of the world we're going to have no Strategic weapons....
This is for fun, so no reason to go and disturb others.
As far as navys, I don't know much about them. I've always been land locked. We're keeping play contained to a single region that doesn't have much water...
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:22 pm |
BorderC, you obviously are not familier with the resourcefulness of simcountry navies if you think the mere lack of water will be a hindrence to them.
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:41 pm |
Well, I've read in places that you don't need water, but I haven't tried it.... I didn't know that it was common to do.
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:43 pm |
So are we agreed with no navies then???
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 11:37 pm |
No navies could be fun, I always use navies....guess I will have to learn the land war!
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 12:03 am |
The EU side is up and running. Message 'brussels' in game for information reguarding the EU side.
Looks like Border is running the US side for now....he does not want the job ;-)
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 12:06 am |
I suggest a provisional 10gc limit to get things started. As people join up we can discuss.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:04 pm |
As BC started this I think he should confirm that we will not be using Navies.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:16 pm |
I think you should decide on another world
There are certain people involved in this, that the inhabitants of kebir blue do not want there. If they fail to leave after the fact, they will pay as well as the people who invited them.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:24 pm |
Fine, no navies. But I don't want to start overloading the restrictions or else it will start losing its appeal.....
So, no navies and no strategic weapons.
I've started the my country and a federation for the US & Canada side. Oddly enough, I have experience fighting in RL wars but not Simcountry wars (except C3s)..... so I'd like somebody else to take leadership as far as that goes. I'll help with the organization.
My country name is NATO Washington and the fed name is North American Treaty Organization (play on the real NATO obviously).... So send me a message if you'd like to join the Americans and Canadians.
Oh, and I'm going to have to cheat a little. I had to take a C3 by force because I didn't have the GC to buy one. So I'm transfering money to pay to fix it to normal... no more than that.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:29 pm |
I think you should decide on another world
There are certain people involved in this, that the inhabitants of kebir blue do not want there. If they fail to leave after the fact, they will pay as well as the people who invited them.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:33 pm |
Capone you do not own this game. If some of us wish to play and have some fun in a quiet corner of the world it is no business of yours. Join in if you want, you are more than welcome! but do not tell other players who are not interfering with you what they can and cant do.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:41 pm |
Everybody is invited to play. This is independent of your feuds with whoever.
We'd love to do this on our own little world but we can't.
No need for petty bullying tactics anyways. Wendy was invited with everybody else that was in chat at the time and declined. I'm sure she recognized the consequences of it.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:45 pm |
Its not the point. You';re inviting scumbags that arent wanted, and will probably not leave. There are consequences to letting your world be invaded.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:02 pm |
Well, we're only using slave countries or Unsecure mains for this so it's not likely any of this will be more than temporary. This doesn't involve their other countries on KB. People at war elsewhere can be allied on KB|HM|CM if they're on the same continent. We're not inviting people to set up in KB, we're inviting them to a game.
Nobody is trying to setup Wendy or others on this continent. We're having a friendly competition.
Now, if we can reserve this post for people joining the game it would be appreciated.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:09 pm |
So be it, You've been warned.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:15 pm |
I agree with Capone, this is not a good idea BorderC. Perhaps, you and those who wish to participate can go to LU or GR
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:19 pm |
It has to be held somewhere! I am sure there are people on all worlds that would not welcome some players..... We cant please everyone all of the time. Its going to be limited to one c3 per player, nobody is setting up long term countries. We will be gone before you know it. The winning side will be left with a group of useless c3s. Nothing to gain from this apart from some fun.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:35 pm |
if u have a ceo ild say good time for weapons corps though a fairly large short term gain in this
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 06:11 pm |
Doubtful. You have our stance. If these people in question don't leave, we will make them leave as well as you.
We don't take kindly to having our world invaded. I hope we don't have to show you.
FB is the war world. Take it there.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:08 pm |
I did originally suggest FB, but I was outvoted.
To avoid upsetting the residents of any world, I think we should do this with CEO's instead!
Ameche, perhsps you could join in as the 3rd side. It could be a good way to go out with a bit of a bang dude!
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:23 pm |
Yeah right ameche actually fight. Right . . .
Humans breathe water, and fish now breathe oxygen too?
I have declined to fight in this war as it is a game. While beneficial for other purposes, I have real issues on KB should ameche not leave in a prompt manner. Whoever wants to play this game go right ahead, Ameche will have his hands full. But don't say I didn't warn you that they would come out against the game. I told you this at the first mention of KB.
I also think that wildeyes volunteered to head up the american side, she can fight well, so I would take her as first choice. I was almost tempted to fight for the US because of that. You'll be in good hands with her. If I headed it up, I'll proly end up destroying to many things.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:32 pm |
Because you're a troll who can't do anything without fucking something up. Come to KB wendy. You'll see that not many there will put up with your bullshit.
And who the fuck are you to tell me when to leave? Go fuck yourself cow.
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:01 pm |
You cryin about leaving.
"OMG the GM's are changing a rule. Wah Wah, this is a ripoff! I'm leaving. My monopoly money salary of 95K this year can't pay for 3 real dollars a month."
I think thats what YOU Said, and i think the proof is on the cash market for countries. You cant even get more than 50 gc for them LMAO!!.
But please by all means stay so i can CaPwn you beyond belief. I beg you.
Tucking While Running, Huffing While Puffing? Wat?
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:21 pm |
You had better save all that wind for your battles. We all know you gave up on Stu because you were worried about a gangbang. Don't try to play bitch, you have a fucking agenda, and it's about to get crushed. ROFL. GR will be extremely nice to watch. Seeing as though a nice chunk of MY ammo will be used to burn your fed. Such a great job you've done running your mouth. Now you burn for it.
I would keep your eyes on your shit, instead of worrying about others. You can't even fight yourself WTF are you talking about? You don't think the entire community knows what kind of useless bitch you are? You got no skills, period. Sneak attacking is not war. LOL
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:23 pm |
Could you guys take this to another post, please?
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 09:07 pm |
Quote from Capone: 'Doubtful. You have our stance. If these people in question don't leave, we will make them leave as well as you.'
Did you get that last bit BorderC? 'AS WELL AS YOU'
Capone, Greatness of all that is blunt. I understand your concern. I also have a concern on how this could finish.
BorderC. You need to come up with a list of rules like how many countries can be involved at one time and where the bounderies to the battlefield are. The resident countries in the area who wish not to fight will need to be made known to all fighters aswell.
Also, do you think people wont use their other KB countries to transfer money and weapons to the front line?
Capone. Who don't you want on KB?
BorderC. Who out voted you on going to FB?
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 10:00 pm |
"Did you get that last bit BorderC? 'AS WELL AS YOU'"
I was to understand that he was threatening Wendy's involvement. It's known that she's not going to be involved so I don't know why this continues unless there is some miscommunication.
As far as I'm concerned I don't have any problems with Capone. I'm in his fed here and on KB. He doesn't much trust me because I'm allied with Wendy on LU.
"You need to come up with a list of rules like how many countries can be involved at one time and where the bounderies to the battlefield are. The resident countries in the area who wish not to fight will need to be made known to all fighters aswell."
Well, it's suppose to stay limited to the region of Cabana Magnifica on Hercula Major. It's mostly empty with a couple of actives and a few inactives.
Each player is suppose to have one slave in the region (or they can use an Unsecured Main if they aren't already on KB) so that it can be conquered.
"Also, do you think people wont use their other KB countries to transfer money and weapons to the front line?"
It'll come down to either trying to enforce something we can't detect (and relying on integrity) or just not making the rule. As long as everybody can do it then it may be "cheating" in a sense but at least everybody can do it. I'd go either way.
We should all decide on these things.
Anyways, from what I've seen so far we have mroe EU involvement bot many from NA are signing up.... Americans need to start signing up!
"Who out voted you on going to FB?"
People who said some great war was coming down on FB within the next few years....
| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 10:54 pm |
no war all spam
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:06 am |
Agreed. I'm pulling out. Sorry guys, but if this is going to cause issues, I dont want to be involved.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:38 am |
Come on stuart, there is no reason for this game to cause issues. Wendy as far as I can see is the only player they object to playing. She has said herself she is not going to play.
The region was chosen because it is largely empty, nobodies toes are getting trod on.
As for 'cheating' I will be sticking to the rules. This is a bit of fun. if I lose a c3 who cares?
This should be a chance for us all to have a bit of fun.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:53 am |
I suggest player upload either the EU or US flag and name yourself accordingly so you can be easily Identified as a player and not an innocent bystander...you know what the US are like with their stray missiles ;-)
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:45 am |
I agree with Vali.
BorderC, to stop any suspicion about who should have what, I think fighters should only be able to transfer weapons, supplies and money from their other KB countries. Population should be kept as you found it, apart from a one time one mill pop transfer to be made 9 months after you have taken control of your country.
I'm just taking over a C3 in Airdropping distance of Cabana and then I'll be with you all.
Come on Stu, this is gonna be a bang.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 05:00 am |
Sorry - i'm out.
I have respect for others terratory, no matter who's it is. Therefore as the leader of a major federation myself, I must respectfully decline. If a vet had not become opposed to this, I would be in like a shot, but as I say - given respect = respect returned.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 05:15 am |
well im in, for NA country is named NORAD north bay(norad for north american aerospace defence command or somthing along those lines) i will be moveing a flag shortly
come on stuart just take a c3 in the area and build it up for a war we will have some sort of a way to mark them as either side.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 05:17 pm |
Respect stuart is the thing. Capone shows us no respect. He thinks he owns this world and can tell the rest of us players where we can and cant play. We are nowhere near his empire,the only player he names he objects to is wendy who has said she will not play.
To me there as no issues here. The region is empty, and will be again once we have finished the game.
It is not like we have set up on some vets border!
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 05:51 pm |
My, I don't know if you know how to read a map or not. I have two naval slaves on eridana and one on HM. So your claim that you are nowhere near my empire is false. Please check your facts before you say something.
Secondly, I do not own any world. I am simply stating concerns about ultra violent people coming to our world. I am a spokesman for this world, because honestly, with all the hate and discontent Wendy has stirred, nobody wishes to post. They do not wish to be a victim of Wendy's tyranny. She has no respect for anyone. And it shows.
Tell me Vali. How exactly am I disrespecting YOU when I am trying to protect a peaceful world? FB is made for games like this, and if you don't like my opinion, I guess it's tough cookies for you, eh? True disrespect is thinking you can invade a world for the fun of it and nobody will say boo. So with that in mind, I think I have been the one disrespected, as well as all the other inhabitants of KB who do not wish to see their world invaded. And I also think I respectfully asked you guys to move to another world. There was no heated discussion. I simply asked you to reconsider because of who you were inviting. I only turned the topic to what I would have to do if that happened because people don't think it's a big deal. Well it is. And I hope you can show some respect, and recognize that I don't ONLY speak for myself. Respect is reciprocal, if I don't get it, you don't get it.
I don't have any issues with you either Border. I simply said that to stress the fact that heads will roll if this turns bad. I do not enjoy fighting, but if this does turn into what I think it will, I am more than equipped and capable to run through all of you like a hot knife through butter. I do not wish to do this. I do not wish to war. Keep it to a list we can all agree on, we have no issues.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:23 pm |
Honestly ameche is retarded, though we all know that i have nothing to do with this game. I have stated when i come to KB it will be to kick you in the arse on the way out the door.
I just may join in this war game, i say we all have a war game, and if anyone interferes, then we defend the war game at all cost. Ameche your paranoid delusions are getting the best of you. These people want to play a war game amongst themselves. You have a country nearby . . .So what. Nobody is out to get you except me. LMAO
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:33 pm |
A little egocentric to think you're the only person on that list we have beef with. You're not wanted here Wendy, and honestly, if you can't see that, then I hope you enjoy your worldwide ass kicking. There are currently 4 major feds preparing to kill you. Mine included. So have fun with that. This isn't LU. We won't tolerate your insolence and you will be put down like the ugly dog you are. Well, I shouldn't say that, you have been getting your ass kicked on LU for a while, you're just too pussy to admit it. The simple fact alone that you have to hide your assets in WP while fighting with c3's tells everyone what you are. A bad joke.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:38 pm |
Capone, could you post a list of who's heads will roll if it all turns mashup please
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:40 pm |
It really won't matter. I'd much rather answer that question with declarations if this does go bad.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:56 pm |
As long as it stays in Cabana Magnifica and no one can transfer pop in from outside Cabana Magnifica (Apart from the one off 1 mill) no country will be able to become anything more than a C3 status country. No threat to anyone. I suppose if the whole area was taken over by oneside who then decided to take on the whole of Hercula Major we could end up in a world war on KB, but like I said, all the countries would be still at C3 status and could easily be turned over. And as I went to FB to set up a war empire so I would not bring war to KB I will be the first to join you in ridding any wrong that comes out of this war.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 07:07 pm |
Quote: no country will be able to become anything more than a C3 status country. No threat to anyone.
Really? Why don't you take a look at LU and see what wendy fights with.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 08:39 pm |
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 08:54 pm |
i think i have to agree with Capone on this one. as a member of the ruling Senate of The Protectorate, i only speak for myself but i think that the consensus is that our 50+ countries in the main fed and 5 sub feds licated throughout KB, want to keep KB a peaceful world. it would be wise to find another world that is more tolerant of the war game. KB, even though it is not void of conflict, focuses on the economic and diplomatic game.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:09 pm |
BorderC or Vali.....what we gonna do doods?
I've not been going to bed until 6am over the past 2 nights getting ready for this. And I'm not even in Cabana yet. I'm gonna have to spend alot more time and game money even before I'm settled in Cabana.
These rapid deployment units are'nt as rapid as I thought
I'm gonna need a decision by this time tomorrow
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:33 pm |
Here are some places on FB if you decide to change venue:
Eridana: Melodia Granda.
Virgina Bella: Canis.
Paova Major: Great Almond.
Eridana has only one occupied country in it.
| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:54 pm |
I'm all for FB. It certainly makes the more reasonable place for this kind of thing.
I just don't understand the objection to it being on KB. Now I'm new here, I've only been around for a couple of months, so I'm curious what affect this competition would have had on the continent? At first the complaint was that Wendy was coming. For the life of me I can't understand why everybody is so scared of Wendy, but whatever. She was invited the same way every player in SC was invited. Nobody asked her to join, we just had the open invitation. There were no conspiracies...
Anyways, that was settled quickly because she said she wasn't joining in. Now people are worried about how it will affect their countries. Outside of nukes, does war affect countries that are not involved? I suppose it could add higher demand and lower supply of weapons. Is that it? Again, I'm new so I don't know all of the intricacies involved. I've never been involved in a player war, only C3s.
I'll be more than happy to move this to a new world if it causes a disturbance. I'd be happy to move it to the actual war world if only because that's where it makes the most sense. I just hope this isn't about ego. I'd rather move this because it is adversely affecting the way others are playing in some way that I'm ignorant of, rather than that there are some here that want to control everything and feel entitled to these bits and bytes because they have been here longer and built up the force and know-how to bully others into playing the game how they want it to be played.
I'll give you all the benefit of the doubt and assume you're all bigger than that. Maybe it's just a miscommunication of what we're trying to do here.
Anyways, I suggest we move this competition to FB. Anybody still opposed to that?
And please Wendy... no comment is needed. This is between them and those who are participating in this war. No offense.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 12:01 am |
I saw that shane has already occupied two countries in his endevour for war, so I suggest we go to Virgina Bella: Canis, as he has a slave already there.
How about the first letter of your name determins what side you are on.
IF YOUR NAME STARTS WITH ABCDEFGHIJKLM YOU ARE IN THE WEST
IF YOUR NAME STARTS WITH NOPQRSTUVWXYZ YOU ARE IN THE EAST
OK.............Maybe not such a good idea after looking through all of your names. But that could just be karma
We dont want to leave anyone out, so why don't we do US v UN?
Anyway. There's not many good countries in Canis, so I'm gonna get my self one now.
Europe on the left.
America on the right.
See you on the battlefield.
Now wheres me kettle?
Shane is on the NorthAmerican side is'nt he?
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 12:33 am |
Shall we put it to the vote then?
Venue: Virgina Bella, Canis, FB.
One country per person until its hammer time.
No pop transfers.
No Strategic Weapons.
No other feds aloud on battlefield.
Europe left. North America right.
The war should begin when each side has 3 countries out of war protection.
If yes theres only about 6 countries in Canis thats got a good pop level. Happy hunting.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:09 am |
Sorry you cant do FB. I have an empire on FB and you are not welcome. Its my world, if you come I will spit my dumbing out and cry like a baby. Go find some other world with more mature player on please ;-)
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:24 am |
I'm good with that.
I know you're being sarcastic but they have a valid point about bringing it to FB. It is the "war world" after all.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:26 am |
And players who have spent 30gcs buying a country to play our game........
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:32 am |
I know.... poor shane probably spent more than that. I have 300 gc right now (ranking quickly in FB and LU at the moment), I'll be more than happy to give you, shane or anybody else enough to cover this mistake.
Come to think about it, this is going to screw up my ranking up in FB. Oh well...
It's still just a game. Besides, people haven't exactly been jumping on board here in KB. We only have a handful of people. Maybe we'll have more success on FB without all of these complaints.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:33 am |
Look Vali, if you don't like our worlds rules, too bad. As you can see, I am not the only significant president on KB that is objecting to this. Maybe you should have considered asking said significant presidents permission before announcing upwards of ten players coming to our planet. We have no objections to anyone coming in the name of peace, we do have objections to planned out war games that could escalate at a moments notice. As you do, we have assets to protect, as well as treaties. KB is simply not a good choice to conduct this exercise.
If you wish to continue the sarcasm directed at me, my main on KB is South Station. You are more than welcome to work out your hostilities there.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:53 am |
What you saying Vali?
Shall I bring my soldiers home?
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:02 am |
Well I am all for the game as it stands. Depends on others. I know shane has spent a few coins on this so really depends on those that have paid out for the game.
We cant keep moving and spending 30gcs ago, sim would love us if we did, but I am sure not everyone can afford to do so. I suggest those that have set up a country let us know what they think.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:09 am |
Capone you main is in secured mode, big words, small actions. My c3 is busy organising a fun game no fleets, or nukes allowed. So you are safe for now, until Wendy comes looking for you that is.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:33 am |
Capone, please don't answer that.
Vali. Who are we waiting for a reply from?
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:36 am |
We are waiting for shane, wildeyes, Darke Katt and I think thats it! We need to do some more recruiting ;-)
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:10 am |
I have 10 more. But then again you know that because I don't think you'd make such a stupid statement. As far as Wendy goes, she is in for a world of hurt if she steps foot on KB. If you'd like to join her, I am game. Now, continue with your game on FB, and keep your snide remarks to yourself. Thanks a bunch!
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:33 am |
OMG Like a broken record.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 08:26 am |
When is your 12 hours?
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:54 pm |
Please don't bring this to KB, especially on hercula major. I think I speak for everyone in my federation when I say we don't want any wars being waged around us. I don't know if you're going to find many people who call that area "home" that won't have a problem with this.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:40 pm |
Actually, the war was bordering my small empire in Hercula Major.
I'd seriously appreciate it if people would explain how war affects those not involved.
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:41 pm |
I don't know if I've ever really suffered any type of war damage from other people's war. To me, it's more of the potential for things to take a bad turn, and one of my countries or allies getting swept up in it. I know most of the people that want to get involvedare stand-up players and wouldn't touch us, but it takes only one to cause problems, you know?
| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:47 pm |
As a member of the security council, I can only speak for myself, but I think many prominent members of KB have been clear about wanting to keep KB a peaceful world. FB is the war world for a reason and this seems like the perfect exercise for that world.
I hope the concerns of the players in the mentioned region are taken seriously, as wars seldom follow clear-cut rules.
| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 12:21 am |
Congratulations to everyone for overcomplicating this issue.
I do agree this should be on FB, instead of KB, although. Fits the description.
| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 01:46 am |
Darke Katt cant make FB so we have lost a player.
| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:20 am |
i dont want fb im at 60 gc already cause i had a missunderstanding of the area we were supposed to build in on kb if u have an empire ur main could stay in secured mode so less to lose. i know ur point for wanting to avoid this but still c3 strength... not much to lose for anyone
| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:48 pm |
KB would've been far more convenient.
| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:27 pm |
Shane, I'm sorry you lost the GC. It's my fault so I'd be happy to give you 60 to cover that. Just message me and we'll arrange it.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have to spend more GC on FB. We're using a region that you are already in so you can either use your current country or use that country to invade a C3 to use for the game. Won't cost you any GC.
| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:06 am |
yes but it is near my empire.. so i do have concerns.. just more insentive to fight hard and win
| Sunday, January 4, 2009 - 03:12 am |
The war was fought on fb, it involved only those who joined up. It did not spread, there are no hard feeling. We all had fun. No harm done, new friends made. Maybe round 2 will be held on kb, to spread some goodwill.
| Tuesday, January 6, 2009 - 06:27 pm |
I was going to say the same thing Vali.It was fought and there were NO problems anywhere. Like usual,certain people take themselves far to seriously[not naming names],and as usual take away from the game. Eu / nA was a gret time for all involved,hope to see even more of you for the next one where ever it is.IM in ! ac
| Tuesday, January 6, 2009 - 06:33 pm |
Who won in the end guys?
| Tuesday, January 6, 2009 - 06:36 pm |