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Guru Disquiet (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 05:38Link
Drop the name protection kiddies and I will remove you from the map.

Come now we have business.

Guru
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lasher (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 06:01Link
A member of RSPCA Federation has declared War on a member of my Federation.
By treaty Arion Empire is at WAR with RSPCA.

RSPCA is using a game bug to try to win the war for them.
Most honest players agree it is a bug in the game software and is to be fixed to use it is cheating.

RSPCA is CHEATING

RSPCA will be defeated, If they chose to go ahead with this war I will not be stopped in removing them from FB.

V/R Lasher. Arion Empire, SFO Allied Forces, FB.
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Guru Wrath (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 06:46Link
Ive used this bug after wild and I were declared on by a gang of players with over 100 decs. My name changes were defensive in nature, after the fact, and geared towards preventing further decs from aggressors.

I never did, nor would, use the bug to offensively declare and isolate a player like this.

But, as I said I have used this bug to survive, never to kill.

This is the war world however....
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lasher (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 07:03Link
Either way it is WAR and I find myself on your side.

I will not use this bug, my weakest countries will be in war protection.

I will fight them with every resource I have and call on every favor owed me. I will not stop until it reaches a conclusion that I am comfortable with.

There will be no quarter given that I will find myself fighting them again and again.

I will contact you we need to plan.

V/R Lasher
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sfo Treasurer (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 07:22Link
Well here is Danneh Turner's country stat break down if anyone needs it. Enjoy.
Country NameNukesPresident NameMember of Federation
Danneh Turner (Total)
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploitYesDanneh TurnerGadsden Maulers
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploitYesDanneh TurnerGadsden Maulers
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit blYesDanneh TurnerRSPCA
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug spYesDanneh TurnerRSPCA
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploitYesDanneh TurnerSTD
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bYesDanneh TurnerRS
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 09:30Link
Ive used this bug after wild and I were declared on by a gang of players with over 100 decs. My name changes were defensive in nature, after the fact, and geared towards preventing further decs from aggressors.

I never did, nor would, use the bug to offensively declare and isolate a player like this.

But, as I said I have used this bug to survive, never to kill.

This is the war world however....


Long names do not prevent war declarations activated by war treaty; they may, as you note prevent declarations from aggressors. There is no moral high ground here.
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sfo Treasurer (White Giant)

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01 Sep 2008 09:35Link
I had no war treaty, so that is a moot point
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 09:59Link
How can you have a war treaty with yourself?

The countries in your fed who signed the war treaty are involved in the war.
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John R

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01 Sep 2008 11:46Link
Sometimes, I feel like shoving a stick up everyone's arse who is using the bug. But then I remember I can't do shoving and writing bitching at the same time.

I forgot to mention: I can actually declare war on countries with the bug. Don't try my patient when you are only one day away from salvation. :)
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Guru Wrath (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 17:26Link
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Jo Jo Hun (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 18:52Link
The great Gurus introduce this tactic to our idyllic war world, then try to tell us when and in what manner it may be used. Not possible ... Prometheus has passed the torch, and it is now a known feature of the game. And obviously one intended by W3, or they would have fixed it long ago, right? It's not cheating, let alone CHEATING, unless there were a prior agreement among players not to use it.
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josias jorvick (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 19:02Link
using something that so oviously defeats the point of a WAR GAME, should, well, when things go this far, the contest has devolved from friendly competition, to just plain cheap tricks...

i'm sorry, but using a bug, is cheap, and it makes me sick, theirs a point of fighting some one you don't like, and pulling out all the stops, but their is still a line of common decency,

to say W3C thinks its ok to do, or they woulda fixed it... when their are tons of things in this world that aren't a crime, does that make them "OK?" Their is no justification for bad behavior
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Guru Wrath (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 19:54Link
Aye, alas I am likely responsible for this tactics spread on this world and for that I have kicked myself many times. In moment of weakness I did it halt further decs on me.

When I used it I was wrong and likely didn't even need it to survive.

To see it used OFFENSIVELY against friends who may potentially loose assets is upsetting to me. Ill personally cover any loss tres may suffer.

Its hardly a feature lol. Its a gimmick to limit risk.

Either way it seems as though danneh is not attacking tres so that is hopeful.

Dont I know you from somewhere Jo Jo?
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 20:20Link
"used offensively" - you're going to have to explain that one Wrath, the only possible thing long names can do is act defensively as a device to slow down retaliations. At the (offensive) war declaration stage, long names do not prevent reverse declarations via war treaty, so there is no offensive gain.

Treasurer has already carted off the 10M sellable pop from his country and I think we all know that the assets that are at stake are a tiny blip in his vast fortune. This is nothing to do with material gain anyhow.

Yeah, the long names thing is irritating me too, I had hoped that W3C would have fixed it last week like the game news led us to believe, but they didnt and Treas' newb protection wore out yesterday so the die was cast. Jo Jo and Josias both have good points, but for me the clincher is that I dont believe 100% that counter-attackers wouldn't do the same thing with their country names, so I'm stayi
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Guru Wrath

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01 Sep 2008 21:08Link
He who declares first is acting offensively, he who is declared upon is reacting defensively. being declared upon then changing your name increased your survivability. Changing your name then declaring on a player increases you winning likelyhood.

Thats how I see it anyway.

I'm as guilty as you basically. Either way it doesn't matter. Just a game. The die is cast.

Ive exploited a nuke bug in the past and players have payed dearly because of what I(and friends discovered). I have mostly regrets now about "bug sploits." Once you hit a certain level of capability bugs, like nukes, are likely not needed.

Enjoy your war.
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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01 Sep 2008 21:42Link
OK, I made an offensive move by declaring against Treasurer, but long names changed nothing at the offensive stage.

Sometimes there's a fine line with these things, like declaring on a C3 simply to stop an opponent declaring/capturing it is also really a sploit. It might not be a bug because the code does what the devs intended it to do, but it's certainly a sploit because the code is being used for a purpose that it wasn't designed for. I'm not criticising anyone for using this, just noting it.
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DavePat

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02 Sep 2008 00:40Link
The name thing once again wont stop someone who knows what they are doing from declaring war on anyone - do I need to prove this?
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John R

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02 Sep 2008 01:10Link
Oh Great Jozi in the sky... please deliver said upgrade on said tuesday (that's tomorrow, btw. hope you aren't forgeting that) correcting said country name bug said Laguna.
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VĂ¡li

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02 Sep 2008 01:13Link
Diego Maradona, one of the greatest football players of all times. What is a most famous for? Cheating! Do not be known for cheating but for how good you really are. Play the game in the spirit it is intended. To have fun with your friends and your 'enemies'.
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Guru Wrath (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 01:20Link
prove it. declare on a country that is not on your border.

this one, its mine and its a junk C3...

The United Kingdom of Poparmo777777777777777777777.


If its not on your border, declare and tell me how and Ill give you $5T.

Barney

edit: Danneh isn't cheating IMO he is just aggressively using a glitch to achieve an end. If my messages indicated he was cheating that wasn't my intent. he is stacking the odds in his favor surely but not cheating.

Im biased danneh. I consider tres a friend so naturally I will be grumpy when I cant directly intervene and assist him.

Just ignore me.
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Jo Jo Hun (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 01:20Link
So then it's not an issue. Though sploits and bugs add a certain charm to the game.

Toad? Eh, I'm an ant.
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 01:39Link
The United Kingdom of Poparmo777777777777777777777.


If its not on your border, declare and tell me how and Ill give you $5T.



I'm in, but I'm not spilling the beans, so I guess I don't get the 5T.. ahh well
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Guru Wrath (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 04:44Link
Post a GC(or 2) and Ill give you the 5T. Just having proff that a work around exists is worth while.
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sfo Treasurer (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 14:55Link
Barney, not necessary, I pulled out 10m in pop and im just having a little fun slowing him down. I had nothing in it anyway, just a glorified c3 with some extra pop in it. I'm just using this to learn his tactics for next time.

And Dannneh, you knew what I had and knew I couldn't even scope out what you were bringing against me after you declared due to the "sploit". I couldn't use any radar planes to see what you had "under the hood" because you were using the "sploit" offensively to keep me from seeing what you might be bringing in battle.

I'm not bitter, I know I will lose this little country and am resigned to the fact that i will get another and come after you, but using straight up tactics and not your "sploit"
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sfo Treasurer (Fearless Blue)

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02 Sep 2008 16:07Link
C'mon Danneh, you cant take this thing after four hours of trying? Dude, you disappoint me.