| Monday, October 13, 2008 - 05:04 am |
now this sucks im in 7T debt and i wanted 5T to get every thing better but now that it is in general voting im losing 25 to 55 and this other country that has 1.7T(not in debt)and is winning like 39 to 19 for 5T......im like wtf i really need the money and he dosnt?????
| Monday, October 13, 2008 - 03:07 pm |
It depends who you know! The other guy is in a fed of the sfo. I guess a large % of the voters are also in sfo.
| Monday, October 13, 2008 - 11:48 pm |
well i know that but im not that hated and still that sucks but sill get my country better some how.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:06 am |
Get your revenge and help in the crusade against the oppressive forces of the SFO who want to control the world. UN aid money is for all of us not just members of the SFO!
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:19 am |
Clam know the truth of the action you have seen. We have worked together in the past and I have Never lied to or Misled you or anyone for my personal gain. Can they say the same?
It was the cheating lying mulity vultures in three musketeers Fed that got caught planning and scheming to attack my Fed. Talking about how they were going to divide and split up my empire after they attack and who the pieces were going to go to. And now they are going to act all innocent because I did not stand by and wait for them to take me out. Lies and Deception is a tactic in war they are better at than me.
Well they were saying how they are going to keep my countries intact and not use nukes to keep the value of there CEO corps in it. I say there will not be one CEO, one military unit or one piece of extra population left over. I am not going to roll over to the cheating lying sewer rats that are the three musketeers Fed of FB. Stick to attacking the week and cheating the un informed for you will pay for your scheming against me. I will not let up this time to your pleas for peace just to have you plan against me again. I will win or make you pay a very very high price for your treachery.
How many times must we be bullied and threatened by these tyrants
So yes decide your side A fed that cheats bullies lies schemes and deceives to steel what it can or one that will stand up to the tyrants and the bullies
Honor Courage And Commitment
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:25 am |
You are paranoid! We were not talking about you! If you were paying attention you would have noticed that the empire we were talking about has fewer countries than yours and unlike you is owned by an inactive player. The three muskateers attack inactive countries, never have they attacked active players unless attacked first.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:30 am |
By the way as you noticed us talking about CEOs you should have noticed me say 'we should keep the countries intact as I have lots of corps in his countries'....I dont have lots of corps in your countries.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:45 am |
Well lasher you asked for this we wernt after you at all but now that you declared and made me divert my attention i suppose there must be something in your empire worth taking see you on the field bro.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:03 am |
man the high and mighty certainly are paranoid.I told Madhatter we wouldnt fight the SFO,and low and behold you delcared,so what to say.Enjoy the fun.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:03 am |
Ummmm first of all No vali i dont hate the SFO i would rather help then than help the Three Muskeeters and i would of killed some of the Three Muskeeters members but Ironnads attacked me for no reason that i know of but he declared on my fed so i tried to help but failed......anyways i will get to the top and see what i can do.....and yes i know Lasher they do lie and kill inoccent players and i would never go against the SFO unless they attacked my Fed for no reason......Chetoos
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:12 am |
Lasher no one is going to attack you, no one ever had the idea of attacking you. i even have told madhatter that there would be no attack on the SFO. I think we went thru this awhile ago. Ive found your fed leader to be an leader of his word and i promised him i would not attack the SFO and i wont as long as im not fired upon. and that has held up since the last time our feds fought. and clam i voted yes for you to have the money on both the security council and the president vote. so the 3Musketeers are not all that bad. we dont go after innocent players only ones that are inactive (havent been on for awhile) Ironnads is not part of our fed and never has been.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:19 am |
Like I said Lies and Deception is a tactic that you guys play better than me.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:53 am |
i never said ironnads was part of ur fed but still danneh turner and other of ur members do kill innocence players and i know what inactive is.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 06:08 am |
VÃ¡li (Fearless Blue)
Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:06 am
Get your revenge and help in the crusade against the oppressive forces of the SFO who want to control the world. UN aid money is for all of us not just members of the SFO! ------------------------------------------------------- Now see i never get why people say that we are oppressive. Our goal is to bring new life into fearless blue by helping newer players. I was just telling andy that this world seems like its dying with new ACTIVE players decreasing. I have voted yes to every proposal put up even yours clam. We should be helping to foster new players. If we continue to just gobble up every small guy that cames along its no wonder we end up fighting the same people over and over. I would rather there be 50+ strong feds vs the few that are today. Clam Perhaps you should have someone try again on getting you a aid package.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 08:44 am |
The war declares on both the SFO and 3M Federations were triggered by my recent actions of helping a new player. I was fighting C3's with a new player. My poor judgement of doing the fighting in Lasher's backyard. It probably appeared to him that I was planning an assault on his empire. I respect the leadership of both the SFO and 3M Federations. I hope Lasher and I can work things out and prevent a war between the two federations.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:50 pm |
My point is SFO has many members so they have a large backing for UN aid votes. When another player wants aid people revert to the old I dont want someone getting something for free menatlity, I am sure your more experienced players will weigh up the vote on its merit, the newer players will probably vote it down just to stop somoene getting free cash.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:53 pm |
Oh and CLAM the 3 muskateers lie and kill innocents do they? You seem to forget when we first met I thought you were new to the game and tried to help you, the actions of a lying bully I am sure!
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:16 pm |
Ironnads is part of my federation. Neither of us are part of 3 Musketeers.
Fighting against the CLAM and Chetoos countries was part of the cleanup operation from the battle with the World Order federation. Interesting that you claim to be both of those presidents (not that it wasn't obvious to anyone who was looking anyway). Innocent you are not.
| Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:29 pm |
ummmm first of all i am CLAM and Chetoos i got tired of using the name Chetoos so i went with CLAM but im not multing its the same account but im pretty sure u knew players could change there name right????....and yes u used to be in alliance with Andy.....and Vali that happened when u were not here.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 03:47 am |
VÃ¡li (Fearless Blue)
Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:50 pm
My point is SFO has many members so they have a large backing for UN aid votes. When another player wants aid people revert to the old I dont want someone getting something for free menatlity, I am sure your more experienced players will weigh up the vote on its merit, the newer players will probably vote it down just to stop someone getting free cash. --------------------------------------------- I agree with you vali i think alot of new players do weigh down they vote. It was my hope that the thread i made for aid request might help in reducing that some if they too can request aid. Ofcourse thats only if they even look at the forums and it changes there minds. It is a dog eat dog world. I can understand why players wouldnt want others to have more resources. Im telling you i have a big problem with the inadequate way we dispers cash. Then if that doesnt work perhaps us larger feds should work together to get things passed. Its crazy that clam has 7T in debt and couldnt get the aid he needs. As soon as clam can be put up for vote again. If any of my fed mates is in the security council i will request that another Aid Package be put up for vote. If real governments give up after a bill is knocked down no work would get done. I am offering SFO support in getting things passed. Anybody else wanna help? I would hope that we strongly encourage newer players to request aid in the aid thread. So we have something to go off of and arent just voting biased aid packages through. At this point the thread hasnt been used and no request have been made. Lets work together and fix the failings of simcountry.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 03:58 am |
Some noobs dont even know what world they are on ket alone where this forum is! Maybe sim should have a aid request in the secruity council menu.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 04:52 am |
As an independent, I voted in favour of both aid requests.
43:39 for Madhatter's proposal is a pretty narrow win, and I'm sceptical that SFOAF has 42 active members on FB - apparently there are a few other players outside of SFOAF who also voted for this proposal.
Also, a proposal by Goldern Horde for a 3M country passed by 43:37 - that is astonishly similar. Was this country in SFOAF at the time of the vote?
It seems to me that Clam's aid proposal was the exception, not the rule. Let's try it again.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 05:18 am |
lol mine was not the exception i've seen some players get shot down too but they dont get in the forums to stand up for themselves they just go back and get in bigger debt and usually restart.....i would of been cool with it if it was about like a 10 diffrent loss but if u look at the first thing i said i was losing by 30 so thats not even close.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 06:10 am |
Ill even put one up for clam. like i said i voted for it both in the council and on the open vote.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 06:45 am |
I like the idea vali came up with and would like to expand on it. The Security Council seems to be over powered. Perhaps allow countries outside of the Security Council to ask for new proposals and not the people on the council. You could then use either two options 1) Have it go directly to Council voting or 2) Have it in a menu that the council members can pick from. Keep it to where the council votes on it. That way the players on the council can still feel like that got some kind of trophy.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 07:02 am |
WOW and I almost believed the lies and deceit.
Red Dragon Lasher no one is going to attack you, no one ever had the idea of attacking you.
Dave33 I respect the leadership of both the SFO and 3M Federations. I hope Lasher and I can work things out and prevent a war between the two federations.
From: New Lethal
Subject: Peace talks
I'm willing to work with you to resolve the current situation and prevent war between our federations. Please think about this and reply back to me. Dave
My reply was
Ok I am waiting to hear back from Madhatter I will do nothing until I do or I am attacked.
Good delaying tactics Dave33 and Red Dragon did you guys take lessons from the Japanese of 1941. Or was it Hitler or 1938?
You do like to prove the point that you act as a bunch of lying cheating vultures with no honor or moral dignity. Guess it is my fault I tried to give you one more chance to show your colors and I guess you did.
Well so be it if I am to be taken out as the next target of the weasel pack I shall do my best to make them bleed some first.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:18 am |
Until you declared war unprovoked on most of our fed and placed c3s next to our countries there was no plan to attack you. And then no reply to requests through channels to remove the c3s. What response did you expect? You started this, and now you insult us and play victim. Phooey.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:28 am |
So it is like that. Lasher declares and cry's when he's attacked. Your non responce to reasonable requests has caused this.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:47 am |
The rest of the sfo had no trouble communicating with us and their chairman Madhatter.you Lasher started this whole mess,we simply are answering your call.I[we] Have absolutly nothing against the others. We were having fun simply going against innactives. Im sorry you couldnt have poked around and seen that. Your taking of c3,s was the clincher so dont whine to the masses on this one.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:57 am |
I wont cry but dont talk peace say no one will attack then when I come home from work you started the war anyway. And who was it that moved wendy next to my mains asking for ppl to help her take out SFO on FB? Then I see 4 more 3M countries move next to my mains with wendy.
So PLEASE do not say this war was started because I took some c3s less than 4 counties from my main. When it was your Fed that took 6 countries all around my main.
So Was I to wait till they were all at full strengh first?
or So when someone tells me wendy is comming to help 3M take us out and then shortly later I see she moves next to me I should have just given her a country or 2 to help her get started?
Or did you want to move a few more in first?
Ohhh wait I have it I am just suppost to give Andy my logon and password also to make things a little more easy for him???
So No do not give me that unprovoked crap.
Anyway you took me out you will win
I was not at the game having been told I would not be attacked just to find I allredy lost.
Your plan worked you got my guard down and took me out Congrats you deserve it that was some great trechery on your part I am sure you are all very proud.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:24 am |
Lasher i'm not the peace maker here that is for sure but i do want to clarify a thing or to. I know Ac fairly well if there were any desighn's agenst you i would have been one of the first to know. There wasent, I've had a slave near you for quite some time i didnt declare with it because i've never had any hostile intentions agenst you. It is only defended. As far as Wendy is concerned i was and still am under the impresion that her beef was with capone. Her countries being near yours is new's to me. I've sent her a few corp's but never looked to see where she was. Heck i might even be one of the guy's with a country near here never checked. Anyway we all wated for a responce from you about moving c3's away from our mains. The fact that you were at work was of cource unknown to us. But we did remember you wated till 3am to dclare on dave. Your non responce could only be interpratated that you were wating for us to log off then attack.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:57 am |
excuse but it was your fed that said it would not attack and I agreed then waited for me to log of to attack. I had only agreed to not attack unless attacked then when I get home I do not know if that would be 1 or 2 your time your fed is taking me out.
I think you need to find out who is talking to on other worlds and what they say they are planning and with whome. If someones said they are planning to move here to take me out then they show up on my door with friends yeah I just might dec first and ask questions later.
Anyway your fed got what it wanted.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 11:28 am |
The funny thing is, reguardless of what you may think you brought this all upon yourself. The Three muskateers had no intention what so ever to attack you. Your paranoia got the better of you. If you took the time to actually read the details of our dicussion on chat, you would have seen the empire in question did not match yours. Plus we were openly talking on a public chat room....do you really think we would talk about attacking an active player in a large fed on a public chat room? Just to let you know we have a fed chat room to discuss 'private' matters.
If you wanted to negotiate a way out of the war you could have. It takes 32 hours mimimum from declaration to actual fighting. Plenty of time to go to work and return home to send at least 1 message. I have not recieved 1 message from you. I am a new player so may not be familiar with your negotiation tactics but your allies were polite enough to talk and arrange a peace.
Your attack upon the three muskateers, followed by your silence lead to this war. Nothing else.
| Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 07:15 pm |
I truely hope in the neer future,all the old and new players message each other a little more.Things like this can be avoided. We all work hard on our countries,it is a shame to loose them.
| Friday, October 17, 2008 - 07:28 am |
Im still trying,but alas,my words fall on deaf ears.
| Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:57 am |
wow this thread got hijacked
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 07:57 pm |
Please vote for Nueva Roma to receive UN aid. He is a good new player. He has built up his country responsibly. He has not got himself into debt buying weapons and getting into trouble, so please reward his responsible playing by voting yes.