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Forum Fearless Blue Is it worth it?

Is it worth it?

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roberto

All worlds
30 Jan 2016 00:50Link
Is it really worth fully exploiting state corporations to the point where they make huge losses so that the country gets max profit.By exploiting i mean things like a hundred percent taxes and profit sharing,contracting your own country then selling at very high price in WM etc?And another question can you shuttle like entire stockpiles oof products and armies and ammo from WG into the war world?
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Aries

All worlds
30 Jan 2016 06:52Link
1. Any corporation making huge losses has trouble meaningfully contributing to a country's profits. Even at high tax, a corporation incurring losses does not pay taxes. Contracting to yourself to then sell on the world market is a losing strategy. Corporations are able to demand a higher price for their product than can selling direct from stock.

2. Yes, you can shuttle products, including most weapons and all ammo, to other worlds, including the war world. Only exceptions are military ships and you cannot shuttle units, except mobile units, but you can shuttle the necessary weapons and ammunition to form units when they reach their destination.
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roberto

All worlds
30 Jan 2016 12:12Link
thanks Aries
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Madoff

All worlds
30 Jan 2016 15:45Link
The highest tax rate is 70%, not 100%. There are benefits and disadvantages to contracting all of your corps' production to your country. That's explained once every week or two in the forums, so you might want to search that.

Products always sell at the market price, whether you sell to your country or to the world market. Trading strategies are about trying to time a sale or purchase to when the market price reaches the specified price.

If you want to exploit your corps to benefit your country, consider giving them very high salaries.
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SirSmokesAlot

All worlds
12 Feb 2016 06:31Link
Actually the Highest Tax rate is 75%.
You can sell Products at 200% over the market price of the product plus Quality.
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Madoff

All worlds
12 Feb 2016 15:39Link
Products never sell at 200% over the market price. Again, they always sell at market price, which fluctuates narrowly each game day. The proof is in the transaction logs of the trade page of every country and CEO.

Trading strategies are merely goals. If something has a market price of 50, a trading strategy of 200% means the seller wants to wait for the market price to rise to 150. Good luck with that strategy.
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SirSmokesAlot

All worlds
12 Feb 2016 17:41Link
Madoff,

I personally sale all my products at 200% of market price plus quality. All or most of my products sale every month and I have some of the top econ countries in this game. I make on average of 350 billion with my top countries. I have over 1.5 quadrillion in game cash in reserve. Do any of your countries have the same success? Hard to argue with success.
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Aries

All worlds
12 Feb 2016 18:53Link
I sell at best price. The truth is that best price (which is simply market price times quality) is the cap for what products will sell for on the market. To check this simply calculate "price per unit sold". To do this look at any given corp that sold its entire monthly production. Take the field "Products Sold Last Month" which is the monthly sales in sim-dollars and divide by the field "Production Last Month" which is the units produced. You can then divide that by the "Quality of the Product" to compare with market price.

Lets look at FB and Construction:
Market Price is 354

Here is a corp from that world

https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=2532232


Peoro Construction
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Madoff

All worlds
13 Feb 2016 16:25Link
SirSmokesAlot:
I already offered my proof that all products sell at the market value: anybody can look at their transaction logs and see that, regardless of trade strategy, everything sells at narrow fluctuations of market value, adjusted for quality. That proof is public.

What's your proof of your claim that you get paid a price 200% of market value? How about you post screen shots of your transaction logs? I'll gladly pay you my measly savings of 1.24 quadrillion in game cash if you post that proof. If you don't, then thanks for the chuckles and the fairy tale.
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Aries

All worlds
13 Feb 2016 16:57Link
Technically, you are wrong. Products don't sell at market value but an amount limited by your sell strategy up to a maximum price of the market price times the produced quality of the product. Above you can see construction selling at over $1000 SC/unit when the market price is 354. You can keep your cash though.