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Monday, July 6, 2009 - 07:11 am  The grand Duchy of Brandenburg - could use some disaster assistance
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 07:14 am Apparently WGC is showing me how mighty they are - only takes a dozen level 6 states to attack a single level one, I'm very impressed.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 04:45 pm We are equally impressed with your high quality of being an asshat in such a short time, enjoy the fireworks.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 05:08 pm Why is it that when NooBs hostile bid on peoples corporations and are asked not to do it anymore, they send nasty responses and continue to do it? Then when people get fed up with it and finally take action. The NooB runs to the forums and acts like the victim? Gothard how many of those Level 6 countries that you mentioned did you declare on? You seem to have a hard time keeping your facts straight.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 06:46 pm Lol ! I can see you're going to spin this one - You asked me to DoW on you, why not - theres already 19 countries taking turns. Your version of events and mine are completely different and it's not worth m time to argue. ooner or later youll get bored and wander off. Im still going to be here and ou havent seen the last of me.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 08:52 pm For the record, this gentleman (or asshat, depending on your POV) repeatedly bid on WGC members corps and continued to do so despite polite and the not-so-polite messages requesting that he cease and desist. First he claimed he did not know, then carried on doing it and, predictably, finally began sending messages such as "Bite me scumbag". When he dropped war protection, the WGC Defense Minister declared on him with one country in order to prevent him going back into WP. Our intention was not to attack, unless there were any further hostile-bids. However, he counter-declared on 5 more countries belonging to the same player and began the hostilities himself. I can only assume that his hostile-bidding has not been restricted to WGC, as he is currently at war with 15 countries including members of Nueva Vida and other independent and respected vets. WGC are by no means the only federation sending him free nukes via special air-delivery  Now now, Gothard, don't exaggerate ... unless you are a multi, there can only be 15 countries at war with your one slave, as that is the maximum allowed by the game. Take some advice, freely given. When you are new to a game that is so dependent on interaction, it is a good idea to get to know what is and isn't acceptable within an existing community before you start kicking off. WGC has a reputation for being one of the most peaceful feds going ... too peaceful for many. I doubt anyone on this forum will believe you didn't ask for everything you are getting. Hugs and respect Jo
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:00 pm Funny how WGC kicks me out for attacking someone who took over my corps, but they respond slightly different when it happens to others.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:11 pm That's because we never attack straight off, Brian, and you did. We debate, try to achieve a peaceful solution and only attack other players if all else has failed. If you had waited until that point, you may not have been evicted from our fed. As I said ... WGC is too peaceful for many players, including Brian. We put up with many hostile bids and messaged Gothard a number of times before we reluctantly came to the conclusion that he wasn't going to respond to diplomacy. Hugs and respect Jo
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:19 pm Too peaceful?? Are you kidding? I am as peaceful as they come. I have in my entire 10+ years of playing SC starting ONE war against a non C3. Please do not spew lies and hide behind "we are too peaceful for many players". That may well be the biggest bunch of bull I have ever read on these forums.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:23 pm Difference is you did it, on your own, without consulting consequently exposing your fedmates. Big difference. We will let Brutus continue this line.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:25 pm Sure I only asked one member of the fed about it before hand, but what that one member said to you and said to me was 2 different things. If he wants to lie that is up to him. And the dude had no military to speak up so how exactly did I expose my fedmates?
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:30 pm There were rules in place, readily available and known and they were not followed. You were asked to explain what happened and refused to do so, that was your choice and it was our choice to remove you from the fed, pretty simple. I will let the other member address you on his own if he so chooses, that is between the two of you.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:35 pm Actually I did explain to Jo what I did and why I did it, as well as the one member who you like to keep mentioning. Once again though if they choose to lie that is just how it is. I am pretty sure though Jo will acknowledge that I did explain my reasoning for attacking. My question to you is why are you even commenting without having any knowledge of what happened?
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:48 pm It was our choice to remove you from the fed, pretty simple.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 09:52 pm Well duh, boy aren’t you just the genius. I thought Obama was the one that did it.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 10:24 pm @ Gothard 43. Having previously been a member of WGC, I know for a fact a peaceful solution and correction to your act of hostile bidding would have been sought. for it to get to a war declaration, you obviously didnt listen. Now i see you are placing unwelcomed bids on members of the Nueva Vida federation. My advice is to not place bids on anymore players corps unless you have had permission. Not everyone welcomes bids (rightly or wrongly) on their corps.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 10:29 pm Jo's an abslute liar, I'm a nOob but I've been contacted by dozens of players and the general consensus is that WGC are a bunch of self righteous, arrogant fools. Most of the players with any sense left WGC long ago and were replaced with cowboys. nice spin yet again Jo. Justify it any way you want - I aint going away and when you're done I intend to organise the people that have already contacted me and put you in your places. Theres a place called the security council that these problems can be resolved in. A cowboy federation running around hitting anyone they want for jollies isn't the solution. Admittedly I made some eroors in declaring more wars - I simply wasnt aware of whom I'm fighting. To be honest I'm still not. It was my assumption that WGC meant All WGC groups. I was really surprised to see how many WGC groups distance themselves from and in fact are intimidated by your group. That goes for Ceo's as well - all they need is some organising and someone to point out that you are in fact a small/ vulnerable group thats extremely trigger happy.
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 10:34 pm "@ Gothard 43. Having previously been a member of WGC, I know for a fact a peaceful solution and correction to your act of hostile bidding would have been sought. for it to get to a war declaration, you obviously didnt listen. Now i see you are placing unwelcomed bids on members of the Nueva Vida federation. My advice is to not place bids on anymore players corps unless you have had permission. Not everyone welcomes bids (rightly or wrongly) on their corps." thats already been resolved between myself and the ceo in question and she didnt even have to send an entire federation to nuke me - I regard myself as on cordial terms with Nueva Vida and quite a few other federations. You need to start watching your back Jo dear. Plutoniums easier to get when people dont like who youre fighting jo's an itinerant liar. they hit me cus they thought I would be an easy rollover
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 10:43 pm They hit you because i presume u carried on bidding. You regard youself on cordial terms with the member you bid on, not the federation You have also messaged another NV member who complained to you and you said, remove your corps from these enemy countries or you will continue to bid on them. Whatever you disagreement with WGC is, shouldnt involve innocent players corps just because they reside in WGC players countries
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| Monday, July 6, 2009 - 11:08 pm Awwww ... and I thought the good old days of flewis were over and gone. You'll have to do better than calling me a liar, though, Gothard. Try 'gay, cheerleading man'. That one always works
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 12:03 am I very seldom read this forum and even less seldom post on it. I play the game, try to get to know the players, just try to enjoy SC......but I'm going to post to this thread. Brian K.....you come on here and call me a liar? YOU HAVE SOME B@LLS DUDE! I'm not going to rehash all that went on here in this forum but anyone that knows me, knows I don't lie. So for you to come here on the public forum and call me a liar......We'll talk.( ) Brutus Buckeye
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 12:33 am Gee calling you WGC people liars is looking like a trend.. wonder why ? we know you guys are never at fault. ... unless youre lying of course
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:21 am Hi Gothard, I think what this comes down to is that many of our members (myself included) have been less than polite to you in our messages, and you've decided to give it back tenfold; you were polite to some of us and I'll give you credit for that, but with others you decided to escalate it, without realising that we connected. Here's some of the stuff you've sent me: "sorry bud - learned that the hard way - theres no way to retract a bid unless you counterbid. I learn a bit every day - today as a matter of fact I learned that you sound like an overbearing jerk. Next timee ya pm a new player try to soften the tone and the reply wont be so insulting." *** "Bite me scumbag" *** "i will however start bidding on and closing as many corps as humanly possible in your nation and the nations of your fed members starting with the most valuable - my pockets are pretty deep and ive all the time in the world" *** "you sure showed me how tough you are ladies. So now what ? Its my turn to play - you can all kiss my arse cus I'm not going anywhere and im going to rock your punkazz worlds" *** Do you remember typing any of that? I'm not taking any of that personally, but I know a lot of players who would, and some of them are in our fed. Can you blame them?? I think I've been pretty good natured about all of this (aside from the nuking...) but I can only imagine what you must've said to some people. As for the war, you're right, nuking you isn't resolving this. You got the point - I think we should end this.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:32 am ya know posting pms from a guy thats being nuked into the dark ages and claiming that thats who i am is the same WGS disinformation ive heard all along. THe first set of PMs was a part of an exchange of no less than 7 pms between yourself and I. You kept insisting over andover that I could retract a bid when I couldnt and your tone got more and more insulting - calling me a liar and threatening before I finally got upset and changed my tone. the other messages were sent when I took my slave state out of protection and tried to distract you from what I thought was an attack on another player thinking she was me - It worked pretty well im proud to say - El Loco is still hanging onto your coattails trying to inflict as much damage as he can instead of hitting her. As far as the other statements Im dead serious - this little incident isnt going aaway and I dont care if you nuke me for the next 6 generations. I know what I need to do to take you down and Im aware of how long it will take and how much it will cost me. so far the only victims in this are the other CEO's who got caught up in the crossfire when you decided to nuke 30 of their solid corps to revenge yourself on a noob for buying a few of your failing corps. Im angry - very angry and this isnt going to end in the near future.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:43 am Boost Temporary War Protection Every 10 game months, your country gains one game month war protection. By using a booster for 1 GC, you can extend the war protection period by 4 game months. Available countries War Protection Period Check The Grand Duchy of Brandenburg on WG 1 Check The Grand Duchy of Bismark on WG 123 For all selected ... Boost toggle selection once 5 times 25 times for all these guys that insist that it expired - no i had a choice of extending or leaving war protection - I thought i was doing something noble to help another player - not that i was being set up by WGC to boost their silly egos
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:58 am Brutus- Rehash all that went all? It was like 5 messages dude. That is where I am lost. The little bit that was said between me and you on the issue IS NOT the same thing that was said between you and other members. That is the part that I am really fuzzy about.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:09 am Alright people, lets all be friends now, ill make some popcorn <---Preps fleets
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:24 am I am as peaceful as they come. I have in my entire 10+ years of playing SC starting ONE war against a non C3. Jesus you have been around awhile any names other than Brian K?. Even I've only been around since 2002.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:27 am Yankee- Nope always been the same. I started playing SC back from nearly the beginning when it was all free. I retired for awhile after holding the number 1 spot in GR (which was the only pay world at the time) for a few months straight. Now I have been back for ever how long it has been.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:48 am "THe first set of PMs was a part of an exchange of no less than 7 pms between yourself and I. You kept insisting over andover that I could retract a bid when I couldnt and your tone got more and more insulting - calling me a liar and threatening before I finally got upset and changed my tone." Nope. Sorry. You've got the wrong guy again. I'm not that guy that asked you again and again to retract your bid - I'm the guy that just renamed your country to 'Nothing Personal.'
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:48 am back to the topic - can someone start sending relief aid ?
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 02:50 am Yes - please send disaster relief to 'Nothing Personal.' PS - The country is under new management. PLEASE STOP NUKING. PPS - those were state corps.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 03:07 am you people just cant live without lying. dont make a mistake im watching.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 08:08 am well keep watching, maybe the 2nd show will be better.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 08:15 am OO lol
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 12:26 pm Gothard43, I'm the one who asked you to retract your bid. (I knew you would be unable to, but I didn't care) I'm one of the ones who asked you not to bid on my corps. I'm the one who has made between 4T$ and 6T$ off your ill advised behavior that started this confrontation. I've enjoyed looking at the graph of your enterprise cash, seeing it dip when you buy my corps with 400B$ to 1,500B$ in debt. btw The two corps you bid on yesterday will cost you 410B$ and 440B$. Both have 500B$ in loans and 30B$ cash. Your total cost 1.85T$ (about 4 gc) enjoy! You are: A. A Liar B. Delusional C. A Moron Pick any two. I figure we'll have to put up with you till school starts in the fall and you'll be back at high school as a sophmore.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 12:46 pm Easy, IndustMech - no need for any further name-calling from our side. Besides, you made a dumpload of cash for your troubles - quit fishing for more hostile bids. Please rise above it - that goes for Dale, Jo, MoP, Brutus and especially myself as well. (Sorry for preaching, guys, but let's try to show some grace.)
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:35 pm Sorry, I tend to take it personaly when I'm accused of saying or doing things I didn't say or do. My post was in response to what I had read in this thread, without knowing what else has happened today. IM
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 01:45 pm Thanks bud.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 04:00 pm Tits
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 11:36 pm hummm I never heard of you Brian K and GR along with WG was my "stomping ground" for almost 8 years, until I up and left for FB. and yes the game except GR was free back then and rewards where paid in cash.
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| Tuesday, July 7, 2009 - 11:40 pm The game has only been around for eight years.
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 12:52 am You should complain Gothard. Send lots of emails about how the Man is holding you down. Perhaps Laguna will wipe away your little tears with the enormous double standard hankie he keeps for just such occasions. /me stares at Laguna.
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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 01:10 am
I only step in the face of flaws. There is none here.
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 02:12 am Unfortunately for me I was the innocent victim of a mistaken identity due to my similar country name to The Grand Duchy of Brandenburg. I was doing just fine minding my own business and trying not to look for trouble. If Aaron had bothered to inquire of me regarding my alleged misdeeds I might have been able to avert the estimated 12-15T his short war with me cost my empire. Now due to my panic buying of defensive weapons the economy in 3 of my 5 countries is 20B a month upside down. I am not crying over spilt milk but it seems to me players with as much power as these wield have a responsibility to make sure they are going after the appropriate target before pounding innocent peace loving countries such as mine into oblivion. I don't expect to be repaid for this miscarriage of justice by El Loco but I would appreciate it if those who are able would move some high quality corps into my countries to help my economy rebuild. Presipaute du Groland The Republic of Molvania The Principality of Genovia The Principality of Guilder The Duchy of Grand Fenwick Respectfully, Duchess Gloriana XII
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 07:18 am You were not the victim of mistaken identity. You were the victim of an attempted robbery. Had I been even semi-active beforehand, and had you not sent a message with a real complaint and concerns in it it would have been a successful robbery too. By the way I have no power to wield and I'll deem any target I wish appropriate. A message detailing why you shouldn't be attacked instead of "what the hell is your problem" is a much better way to make peace too.
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 07:23 am Duchess, you failed to mention that you had been in the same Fed and CM with Goth. Gothard sold one of his CEO's to another clone of his named "wicked", who in keeping with this CEO's tradition has already begun hostile bidding. The fact that Gothard was able to sell this worthless POS immediately raises a few questions.
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 01:22 pm Hondo, yes I was a member of his Fed for about 2 days and not until after this war started. Friends were few and far between and he offered to help so I joined. As soon as I figured out what had happened I left it and I have not communicated with him since.
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| Wednesday, July 8, 2009 - 06:52 pm At least you recognized and learned from your mistake. More than can be said for Gothard.
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| Friday, July 10, 2009 - 02:00 am i sold my enterprise to a kid at an extreme loss Man of peace told me that was the only that he would call of the incessant nuking of m country ( a rit i did it and he then took my counry and extorted 50gc for is return ) the kid inherited bidding I had already started in retaliation for the WGC bids on my corporations and was powerless to stop the bids - the bids were on raise vote automatically - Ive never met the kid and dont know him from adam. this is yet another WGC lie to attack and harass yet another community member
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| Friday, July 10, 2009 - 02:09 am gloriana youve been seriously misled and i do understand that if you dont do as these people tell you that theyll go after you as forcefully as theyve come after me - is this how wgc attracts members ? threats and war and abusing the game and the security council to cow their opponents ? its gloriana i would build corps in your country but WGC wold just move them and wreck them. ill go down swinging
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| Friday, July 10, 2009 - 05:38 am Gloriana is not at war with WGC, she has done nothing to warrant it and there is no issue with her for us. Next...........
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| Friday, July 10, 2009 - 08:22 pm cookie
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| Friday, July 10, 2009 - 09:07 pm Gothard43 (White Giant) Friday, July 10, 2009 - 02:00 am Click here to edit this post i sold my enterprise to a kid at an extreme loss Man of peace told me that was the only that he would call of the incessant nuking of m country ( a rit i did it and he then took my counry and extorted 50gc for is return ) the kid inherited bidding I had already started in retaliation for the WGC bids on my corporations and was powerless to stop the bids - the bids were on raise vote automatically - Ive never met the kid and dont know him from adam. this is yet another WGC lie to attack and harass yet another community member Gothard You seriously need to get your facts straight. I never told you to sell your enterprise. I never took your country. I never even fired a shot. Even though YOU declared on ME, my war never became active before someone else took your country. So therefore I did not and could not have extorted anything from you. So please stop slandering me. As to the "Fraudulent security council vote" as you put it, you have threatened to use nukes on this very forum. " You need to start watching your back Jo dear. Plutoniums easier to get when people dont like who youre fighting" So yes I started the proposal and the community voted for it and it passed. Basically you are like the bastard son of Hugo Chavez and Kim Jong-il, you needed to be stopped. The community must have agreed. If you change your tune and become a productive member of the community I'm sure you would be given that chance. You just have to make the first move.
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