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April 2014 Oil Crisis (Need Private Corporations)

Topics: White Giant: April 2014 Oil Crisis (Need Private Corporations)

Victorie Belle

Saturday, April 5, 2014 - 06:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, supply far exceeds demand right now, and has been since at least a month ago. People are building an unusually large number of new Oil corporations, making the whole oversupply even more over.

It is silly.

Anyways, The Kingdom of Victoria could use some CEO help. I have 9 Oil corporations that are about to go under because of this, and will shut down these corporations with every new construction or move request.

0% tax
Low welfare index
Tight budget


Saturday, April 5, 2014 - 08:08 pm Click here to edit this post
I reckon they are also building an unusually high number of High Tech Service Corporations too... They've been in the greens for some time now.

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce

Saturday, April 5, 2014 - 11:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Being around for long years... I personally doubt it's 'new players' building Oil corps.


Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 12:02 am Click here to edit this post

have almost 2 million workers


Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 08:53 am Click here to edit this post
Nicolas is right. The main factors as we've been able to see are:

a)Production Levels: production levels have changed several times a few months back. This immediately caused oversupply, but also made a market correction difficult as there is still lingering tendencies which have not adjusted to the new reality.

b) Supply requirements: Many groups have also changed which contributes to the phenomenon mentioned in a).

c) Interplanetary trade: A number of large, space players have been trading huge quantities of supplies between the world. This has caused massive oversupply which is done to either reduce supply costs, close c3 corps or crash prices for commodity trading.

The number of new player corps is probably a minor factor though.


Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 04:23 pm Click here to edit this post
WG should place an embargo on all extra-planetary products!!!

Victorie Belle

Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 05:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, I've looked at the charts and over the past two weeks there was a significant increase. It was a literal spike. 300 new oil corporations appeared amidst the oil price drop.

I suspect new players have nothing to do with it. I think someone with a lot of money is trying to corner the oil industry.

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce

Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Craig.

I would like to add a few more comments.

1) My 2 HIGHLY profitables LU CEOs are in the process of becoming bankrupted... One much more faster.

LU CEO 1 used to make 650-800B per game month for long time, and used to transfer around 50B to corps automatically.
But now and during last real life weekS (since these consecutive changes on the marke) it's making -700B to -200B (yes negative) per game month, and 50 to 400B transfered to corps.
The CEO also has 12T in debt now....

LU CEO 2 is too similar. It's not in debt already, cause it has been sucking all the available cash the enterprise had. At this pace, it will end like LU CEO 1.

I'm mentionting this, cause the said changes were aimed to balance the martket and it will give "EVEN MORE PROFIT TO CURRENT PROFITABLE CORPS". More or less, GM words and it's not happening to me only.

2) People can move products from one world to another. True. Much more faster if it's those than you can transfer through "direct trading".
However, you move such amounts when they are in HIGH demand, of course to try to sell them at a higher price and gain more money.

When bar graph becomes completely green (surplus being double the demand), you WILL NOT transfer products from one world to another cause you will not sell them at a higher price.
This should leave the market balanced as it was, but it's not happening.

I have been paying a close attention to corp graphics, and even though surplus graphic line seems to be not working... if you make the calcs based on # of corps + base crop production, in most cases it never equalise the graphic said demand. If you make those calcs at 120% crop production as the most happy scenario (which is not real), it still not equalise the graphic said demand and worst, it doesn't double the demand.
Also, number of built corps for a X product for a time frame, is insignificant to unbalance that product market.

This leads me to some conclusions.
2.1 - Corp graphics are completely broken. + 2.2.

2.2 - The consecutively announced and said market changes by GM were not calculated properly, and of course they will not compensate us for these loses which means $$$ loses as well. On the opposite, we should invest more real cash it seems.

2.3 - GM purposely putting his fingers in our assets again, mainly against those managed to make huge profit. (this discussion occurs since 2002)
Note: I went from highly profitable CEOs to one almost bankrupted. LU countries together are producing 500-600B less per game month too. Of course, to try to put these assets aligned again I would like to invest real cash....

2.4 - GM saying all these high and deeply analyzed changes were going to be balanced after some time... It make me think that their analysis of "time will balance the market" is exactly what it's happening (and it will not be new). Corps losing money badly which eventually in many cases are closed unless someone invest gc (fresh cash first) to change output product corp by corp with gcs + CEO/Countries losing money as well too.... which all ends in investing real cash for Gold Coins/Game Cash to restore some balance.

I found a famous phrase for current situation.
"The end justifies the means"

If there is anyone, who can correct me with very good foundations and real examples, I would be more than glad to learn what went wrong not only just on my case if not in general to a lot of people around.
I will then offer my apologizes if necessary.

It's sad. But it's remind me why I quitted 3 times already, along with other vets over more than 10 years. 4th one is starting to fly around.



Sunday, April 6, 2014 - 05:46 pm Click here to edit this post
From what I can see the GM likes surpluses.
However surpluses cause price drops until the item is no longer profitable and corps start to fail...
And round we go.

Most of the markets are bad now, so most peoples FI rating are falling.


Monday, April 7, 2014 - 02:37 am Click here to edit this post
We've known for years that the GM manipulates the markets... Along with the broken graphs, magical injections of certain products appear from time to time. In addition, note that some people bought large amounts of the products in question at a cheap price and when markets return to normal they will begin dumping aplenty, thereby extending this issue...


Monday, April 7, 2014 - 06:52 pm Click here to edit this post
His tampering again, mixed with the heavy dumping is ruining the game for 95% of us.


Monday, April 7, 2014 - 11:30 pm Click here to edit this post
glad im in the 5 percent that only makes potatoes


Tuesday, April 8, 2014 - 06:28 pm Click here to edit this post
^ Until someone floods the market with all potatoes

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