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Topics: White Giant: A New Beginning ...

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 17, 2021 - 12:57 am Click here to edit this post
Not for generations has White Giant enjoyed so much peace and prosperity! Profits are booming once again for my great economic super power!

All my simoleons are all rejoicing!


King Emperor Lee I

Clonan

Friday, September 17, 2021 - 11:33 am Click here to edit this post
The Israelites are happy about the success and peace in your state under your leadership.. we're also optimistic that you'll attain greater heights..

Thanks for all your help and Contribution to our developing State Emperor...

You've the Assurance of my highest Esteem.

Government of Israel..

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 17, 2021 - 03:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you great leader of the Israelites.

Peace and prosperity to your great nation.

King Emperor Lee I

Lakan High King Rene Sarabia Jr.

Saturday, September 18, 2021 - 05:21 am Click here to edit this post
While you are quite antagonistic against us in the WGA the peace on our world is something we all appreciate.

E O

Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - 11:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Out of curiosity, what does one need to accomplish to become an economic super power, Lee?

I normally troll you more than 100% of the time, but this time, I'm actually serious.

I ask because while yes, you do make profits, there are many others who do as well, and I'm wondering how you're judging who is or isn't an "economic super power." What do you consider to be economic success?

Your friend David Clonan from the Israelite Empire, for example, has made SIGNIFICANTLY more money than you have on your current account.

JUST curious :)

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 12:25 am Click here to edit this post
The statistics speak for themselves!

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
I seek peace and prosperity and offer a olive branch!

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 01:59 am Click here to edit this post
I like statistics. Let them speak for themselves:

Lee's Empire:

Number of countries in all Worlds: 12
Number of Enterprises in all Worlds: 2
Total Value of all Empires: 563.10T SC$

Babylon profit: 45.00B
Bolivian state profit: 19.48B
DRC profit 52.59B
Fire profit 36.92B
KwaZulu Natal 17.06B
Paradise -15.54B
Sun Profit 182.00B
Tibet 21.34BB
Water 91.18B
Zeus 12.85B

Total monthy income: 478.42B

Military assets:

1,041.49B SC$ -CEO
1,198.13B SC$
189.80B SC$
1,962.55B SC$
369.72B SC$
1,069.73B SC$
2,253.31B SC$
180.01B SC$
1,656.31B SC$
449.65B SC$
121.52B SC$

Total military assets on WG including ent:

10.49T

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Empire of Bataiva:

Number of countries in all Worlds: 25
Number of Enterprises in all Worlds: 3

Income of top 4 countries on WG ALONE: 578.67B.
207.30B
122.99B
148.62B
99.73B

The income of four of my states out produces all of yours, economically. Most of these states have weapons, and defenses up constantly. Sussex has more ammunition than you have military assets in your entire account.

I am not some uber eco player, either.

How do you like them statistics?

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 03:26 am Click here to edit this post
My Enterprise CASHCOW earns 794.83B each game month so that's 1.27325 Trillion each game month.

Also I'm aiming for 1st prize again for the second time with CASHCOW.

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
As I didn't include mine. Nor the rest of my empire. Only four states. On one planet. I also think you should take a closer look at CEO profits and what you end up with. You do not get away with what your CEO profit says you do. I'm surprised your bragging about your CEO, when your primary profit maker is the IPO method. It seems you don't know much about how your economy really operates.

Bragging about winning first is a little silly. A brand-new CEO can get first. It's about averages, and indexes, not gross anything. Not to mention, many of us have already taken various GC prizes in exchange for score penalties. Take the win where you can, I guess.

You are not an economic superpower. I don't think you quite fathom what many people can and do make.


1v1?

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 03:44 am Click here to edit this post
Sun

Population 115,463,125
Welfare 133.90
Finance 185.50
Education 226.75
Employment 96.81
Health 211.04
Social Security 205.75
Transportation 223.84
Business 118.43


Kingdom of Batavia

Population 104,117,926
Welfare 114.91
Finance Secret
Education 144.34
Employment 95.52
Health 107.68
Social Security 128.77
Transportation 163.94
Business 117.51


I feel sorry for the people of your country!

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 04:09 am Click here to edit this post
What are you showing exactly?

That despite a lower population, AND a lower welfare index I make substantially more than you? I wonder how much more Batavia could make with a 130 welfare index. Have been inactive as of late, so fair enough. Good to know Batavia was ahead of Sun without even competing. You'd probably throw up if you saw Anihana or Eo's profit. For one planet.

Anything else you wanna embarrass yourself with? You keep showing your ignorance and (in)ability at the game. Just know that when you say stuff like that, people look at your econ stats and chuckle. You've got one developed CEO, three states that make anything worth talking about, no WL3 countries, less military gear than a starting country and you claim to be an economic superpower? When? Back in 2006?

Waiting for your response to the 1v1 thread.

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 04:20 am Click here to edit this post
If you need any help with your hospital beds shortage and patients dying in corridors please let me know! Maybe I can help you out of your crisis :)

Kingdom of Batavia
Life Expectancy 60.499

Yikes!

Sun
Life Expectancy 78.097

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 04:29 am Click here to edit this post
This is honestly hilarious.

Batavia makes more, with a lower welfare index and now you are trying to go off about random metrics.

Sun:
Population 115 Million
profit :180b
welfare: 130

Batavia
Pop 104
profit 203b
welfare 102

Are you REALLY bragging about your HEALTH index? Do you know how to play at all? Or is it a "get under their skin since they constantly PROVE me wrong" kind of thing?

Have fun roleplaying about... hospitals? I thought we were talking about how you were an economic superpower, not about how long our virtual citizens live.

STILL waiting for you to respond

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 04:29 am Click here to edit this post
Dear Noob-Emperor Lee, you have besmirched my reputation and I demand satisfaction. Pistols at dawn. Or as we say it now; 1v1 me, Noob.

-I will (temporarily) leave the Syndicate and my Federation mate will not get involved, whatsoever.

-WL3 members of the WGA will promise not to pounce on you either

-0 direct outside help. No fed air D, no remote depots in friendly territory, no nothing.

-Whatever prep time you need and whatever guide to WL3 you need to follow

All of these benefit you.

Someone said they believe I'd get wiped by you. I think I'd steamroll you and ask for seconds.

I don't really expect you to go for this, being a spineless Frenchman whose mother smells of elderberries, but as a scholar and a gentleman I thought I'd challenge your honor. Or what little of it may remain.

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 04:30 am Click here to edit this post
If you are better than me PROVE it. Put your SUPERIOR economy to work so I can single-handedly wipe you from the planet.

Unless

You are a

C H I C K E N

Clonan

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 12:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Whatever way you're making the money make it.. what matters is you're counting the cash... For who's an economy superpower both parties are trying.. considering when both players started, Mathew has been around for a while way before Lee Returned.. Lee came this year if I'm not mistaken... There are other Stats we look out for tho..

E O

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 05:09 pm Click here to edit this post
What I'm wondering, Lee, is why you felt the need to announce that you're now describing yourself as an economic super power. There are probably ten+ players who make more money than you do on White Giant alone AND additional players who've played long enough that they probably have many times larger cash reserves than Lee. My account makes MANY times more profit per month than yours - so to me, you're... certainly not a super power.

Is this just an attempt to yell "I'm relevant?" If so, you quiet down. Yelling "I'm relevant" doesn't work. Actions, not words will earn you the reputation you so desperately desire.

I just don't understand what the point of this was or what criteria we're using. You make OK money, but you're certainly not one of the best econ players on your planet, let alone in the game.

Lastly, while enterprises got brought up - know that profits LISTED IN YOUR FINANCE REPORT are *EXTREMELY* inaccurate. CEOs are fun but they do not *actually* make much money. While Lee is undoubtedly making goods purchases and sales and may be opening new corporations, you can tell by looking at his cash flow that he's NEVER clearing 800b profit in a month, which, to be fair, is what his finance report tells him he's making. In fact ,the enterprise tax is making it so he basically breaks even most of the time he isn't trading commodities.

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=enthist&miKey=27197&miColumn=vEnterpriseCash

This feels like the 10th thread I've had to comment about enterprise tax in the last month to explain enterprise tax is causing someone to not actually making as much money. Perhaps when you become a good econ player, Lee, you'll know these things!

Good luck out there. You certainly need luck.

neutralsc

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 08:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah the double taxation seems a bit unfair. My ceo reports profit but its not a net profit. And on top of that comes enterprise tax, which is calculated in a way only God... I mean Andy... knows how. Especially if you take into consideration that that (ent tax) money is not flowing anywhere, it just disappears.

E O

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 09:57 pm Click here to edit this post
@neutralsc - Ent tax is based off total assets in the CEO. From the documentation:

Many Enterprises are successful in the game and make a large monthly profit. Some of the profit is used as "cost of running the enterprise". The cost depends of the financial strength of the enterprise and may range at the level of 0.05% to 0.1% of the total assets of the enterprise per (game) month.

Translated - if your CEO is worth 1Q, you're paying a hidden, non-reported tax of between 500b and 1t EACH GAME MONTH.

Matthew II

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 10:48 pm Click here to edit this post
@Clonan It is not about who is making more. Many people make far more than me, even my WG countries are not completely developed. I have allies that make several times what my entire account makes. Lee needs to sit down and take a hard dose of reality.

The point is, Lee is bragging about being an economic superpower. He is not close to one. Even the profits you made David, which are impressive to 90% of the player base, was absolutely dwarfed by some.

I do not pretend to be some uber eco power and I do not go around bragging about my economy when it is VERY not competitive with others. Lee continues to flaunt himself being a veteran, being from the good old days and being one of the most competent players here, despite not even knowing how to hit WL3. It might not even be as bad if he did not have a history of being the most insufferable person on the game.

Did you know my first act with Lees country Sun was to send them an invite to the WGA embassy? Then he immediately after started listing off countries he could invade.

Stop saying things that make people laugh at you and people will stop laughing at you. I respected you a WHOLE LOT more when you geared up and moved to WL3. Even if we did not get along, I could never say you were incompetent at the game. Because you are not. Lee is. Does it a lot. Now that he has got a 1v1 promised he is suddenly quiet and ignoring it. Egotistical, cowardly, mediocre skill and big mouth. It is no surprise a fair amount of people use him for sport, or in the case of WGA is mostly ignored as a pest.

The point is not that I have a better eco than Lee. The point is, his eco is 0% competitive against anyone except newer players. And really, all it does is further show how ignorant he is about aspects of the game. Which is not a bad thing, until you insult others, brag, and make yourself out to be a general troll.

@Lee, no 1v1 then? I keep posting it and you keep ignoring it. You that afraid? With such a -massive- economy you should be able to crush me in no time. Lets go. I will even take a -I need more time- but this silence? Deafening.

King Emperor Lee

Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
I could easily achieve war level 3 and was at war level 7 years ago. I chose to remain at war level 2 for the moment as I'm not looking to engage in war right now.

My economies are booming and I'm going to achieve 1st place for my Enterprise, CASHCOW for the 2nd time in 7 months!

Also I'm not far off Game Level 8 which you have never achieved! What level are you on again?

You're just a pompous arrogant Napoleon who has no idea how to run a country!

E O

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 12:22 am Click here to edit this post
This was your first post on the WG forum this year, Lee:

"Friday, March 19, 2021 - 03:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Subject: To Counter the Aggression of The WGA."

You... declared war on WGA. You've yet to do anything about it six months later. What a scared, hypocrite!

I also love how each post you make values something completely different that no one has brought up before LOL. You think making game level 8 matters to anyone?! Congratulations you made it but like, no, no one really cares. There's nothing about being level 8 that makes your countries more profitable or stronger than when you were at level 7. :) What you did years ago doesn't matter at all. It was a different game with different players. I'm probably the only one who remembers your war against UC :)

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 12:25 am Click here to edit this post
Not in the least! As I have already stated "I chose to remain at war level 2 for the moment as I'm not looking to engage in war right now."

E O

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
Why did you declare war on a federation when you were planning on staying war level 2 then?

You're just openly saying you're a troll?

neutralsc

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 01:17 am Click here to edit this post
Thx E O but my ent tax is lower than 0.5% of total assets currently. Calculated per month and per year. Besides, CEO gets quadruple taxed.

First the Country Resources used tax.
Second the state tax to country.
Third the enterprise tax on its own.
Fourth the less efficient use of capital due Country Resources used and state tax on which you get enterprise taxed again.

neutralsc

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 02:36 am Click here to edit this post
Just figured out it probably has to do with increasing total assets month over month.

Matthew II

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 08:31 am Click here to edit this post
LOTS of talking about the past, not a lot of competent, current gameplay.

You were WL8 during a COMPLETELY different war engine. The war game is NOTHING like it was when you played. We WATCHED your move up through the war levels, dude. Horrendous, outdated strategies and then you GAVE UP trying to move one country to WL3. Trying to shoot through defenses not knowing what to do like a brand new player. I suppose you started a WL3 war and stopped most of the way for no reason? Literally the only thing you know how to do is manipulate taxes so your CEO can buy out corporations and brag about how good you are.

And I don't know if you've been paying attention, I'm not calling myself good. I'm saying your Empire is mediocre and bragging about it is funny to those of us that know how the game functions.

You talk of arrogance, yet you made a thread talking about your great economic empire when only three of your countries can even be considered halfway developed.

You want me to move up war levels? Sure.

neutralsc

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 11:15 am Click here to edit this post
Well Lee is going to achieve 2nd place @CEO this month, not 1st. His CEO is gaining 40 points every day, my ceo is gaining 200 points every day, so within 2 days I will surpass his ceo and claim first price. All is good.


https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=enthist&miKey=27197&miColumn=vCMainScore

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=enthist&miKey=27422&miColumn=vCMainScore

Clonan

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 11:30 am Click here to edit this post
What's up with all these comparisons.. I can take up a challenge to build an empire that has more profits than all Mathews states on WG in two months.. whose in? Lmao.. Can we place a bet.. would Love seeing tasks like this

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 04:00 pm Click here to edit this post
What a brilliant idea.

Matthew II

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 05:18 pm Click here to edit this post
What is up with the comparisons? I have said it. Lee isnt an economic superpower on this planet. I used myself for an example. I am not bragging.

If you want a competition sure, but I have literally said IN THIS EXACT THREAD - I am not an uber eco player- My point is not I am all that and a bag of rocks, my point is he is not an eco superpower.

I did not make a thread about being an economic superpower.

If you want to make a bet, sure. It does not offend me nor would it hurt my feelings if you won. In fact I am curious to how fast you can build, so go for its I say again: There are PLENTY of players who have each state making 250b a month.

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I bet that in two months I'll be earning more than Matthew as well. It's a dead cert!

UNION STATES KING

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Reading this thread has been very Interesting. Matthew because I have read the entire thread I understand that your main argument is that Lee is not an economic superpower.

You in fact used your own empire as an example to prove why Lee is not a Econ super power. Your not tooting your own horn in any way shape or form. I too know many players who makes Lees empire look like a noob account. I too believe Lee is in fact NOT an economic power.

Matthew Having you and Lee fight in a player vs player war would be entertaining and I would agree as EO has also agreed not to interfere in such event. I know Matthew is a more than capable player and war fighter and I would put my money on him to beat Lee in war. Lee has constantly touted begging a Great War player and nobody has seen any evidence to prove this what so ever.

Clonan

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Lol Intresting.. Do we have a bet? In two months I'd build an empire on WG (States plus enterprise) making more than your overall profits per game month.. if I fail I'd give you a state with a cash of 400T in it. if I win I'd have Batavia Inland to myself Deal?

Matthew II

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Lol no?

I'm not giving you my core states, homie. Regardless of you winning or not. You can take them in war if you want. But that's the only way anyone other than EO gets on my island.

to be clearer: I don't really care about making a bet with you. If you can do it, cool. I sort of doubt it, but I'd like to see it. I don't need 400T from you and it's not NEARLY worth Batavia. The island will remain Batavian until I decide to de-register. =)

@Union Lee can't back anything up, so his only ally, David, is trying to do it for him

King Emperor Lee

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:34 pm Click here to edit this post
In one month my empire will be making more more than Matthew's! How much does your empire make a game month Union States King?

Clonan

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:36 pm Click here to edit this post
@Mattew Nearly In what sense?? How many game years will it take Batavia empire to make 400T.. from calculation it should take roughly more than 2 real years...

On a second thought I don't desire your states.. wanted some kind of reward for the extra effort that's just it.. and that's all I see lol.. No strings attached tho..

I'm not even sure if I can achieve that.. but that's the spirit.. seems impossible lolz

Also the *anyone* is also a challenge to all.. I love your confidence man.. keep it up

Matthew II

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 06:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Giving up my leader, that's in the core of my cluster, on an island (one of the ONLY islands) with literally no one but my allies isn't worth the time, effort NOR the reality of having a non-federated country as my permanent neighbor.

Not gonna happen, man.

Quick maffs:

Six game months every 24 hours, 24 hours in a day, 365 days in a year. At minimum 200b a month means 1.2T in a 24 hour period. Of course, if we simply multiply 1.2T by how many days in a year (365) we get 438T. So it wouldn't take nearly that amount of time at all. That's also assuming I only make 200b. I'm assuming by your math you can't tell how much Batavia makes? Or were you referring to another one of my states?

Now, that doesn't really change much. I wouldn't give you Batavia if you offered me 1 quadrillion and a promise that Lee would hit WL3. I would say "Just take it in war" again, but I actually forgot that you literally can't since it's in secured mode lmao.

If you want, we can make a gentleman's bet? I said I didn't think you could do it, so there's always the glory of proving me wrong?

Clonan

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 07:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh.. lolz do i have permission taking batavia in war? PVP just me and you? I can build up if you want... Just between the both of us.. lol

Matthew II

Friday, September 24, 2021 - 07:59 pm Click here to edit this post
A 1v1 between me and you?

I'm not opposed to it. Build up. I cannot promise it will be over my island, and right now my schedule isn't going to allow me to fight a war that might last longer than a day or two against a peer, but we can 100% accommodate something. If you want something grand scale, you'll have to wait. You can use that time to build up regardless.

Do you have any holdings on the war world, Fearless Blue?

King Emperor Lee

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 04:10 am Click here to edit this post
Matthew is in love with Margret Thatcher.

Matthew II

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 04:40 am Click here to edit this post
Am not!

I am in love with Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount. (Maybe a slight crush on Cochrane.)

I thought it was rather lame that the Iron Lady refused to invade Argentina proper. Frankly, I will not be happy until Texas joins the Union.

God Save The Queen

King Emperor Lee

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
The sooner the UK becomes a republic the better!

Weyland

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post
WG is weird.

Lord Mndz

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 06:28 pm Click here to edit this post
i am selling exp for winning federation wars, just pm me:)

Matthew II

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 08:09 pm Click here to edit this post
@Weyland

Come join us and you too can yell at people who are not WL3.

Weyland

Saturday, September 25, 2021 - 09:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Tempting.

Kaizer Zen

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 01:59 am Click here to edit this post
Bragging about higher health index is like bragging on how inefficient your economy is. This is why first world countries in the real world are importing 3rd world labor, or offering tax brakes / welfare incentives to increase birth rates. Not enough youth in the workforce to pay for retiree pensions. Same goes for simcountry in a way. All an extremely high health index for is for game level. Having a higher health index above 130 hurts your economy more than helps. Causes higher social security costs, higher healthcare costs, more workers needed for the healthcare system ( less workers for corporations ), and lowers the number of working age people as a ratio to retired people.

There's nothing wrong to a high health index if that suits your playstyle and are going for higher game level. From a purely economic standpoint it does not help. You may not lose population quickly, however an aging population is a time bomb and the only way to combat this is to either keep building more hospitals ( making the problem worse over time ) or closing them in order to keep from continuous population decline.

E O

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
If anyone wants to know anything about how to manage your health index to suit your play-style, read what Kaizer Zen just wrote above. :)

Weyland

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 01:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Why do players hoard money? What are they saving up for? I'm playing a game that simulates running a country not one that simulate having a savings account.

Weyland

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 01:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I'd edit that typo if I knew how.

UNION STATES KING

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 03:04 pm Click here to edit this post
@Weyland I save and spend money having extra cash allows you to get through financial disasters, stabilize new countries quickly and in some cases reach a higher game level. However I'm all for buying military gear.

Weyland

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 05:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Wait. Health, education and transport are all close to 200 yet you're ranked no. 6 for finance. Doesn't that prove Kaizer Zen wrong?

E O

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post
No, it proves that Union King is good at econ. :)

Weyland

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 05:58 pm Click here to edit this post
I looked again, he has literally no military.

E O

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 07:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Why would he have a military in his permanent war protection "secured' main? WG is a bit different than FB, and the vast majority of players use their secured mode nation as just a pure econ base. There is no reason not to, since you get just the one free, war protected country.

That country cannot ever be attacked unless Union King manually removes the secured mode. If you look around, you'll notice Union King's empire is easily a top 5 military empire on WG at the moment.

Weyland

Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 09:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Not sure what any of that has to do with health index effecting the economy but it sure seems pointless fighting a war you can neither win nor lose.

There are some other examples I've found on FB of countries that have health index way above 130 without it ruining their economy yet still spend loads on their military so I think Kaizer Zen's advice is inaccurate. You can definitely have good health care for your citizens without it ruining your economy.

E O

Monday, September 27, 2021 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
The point I agree with that Kaizer Zen made is just that a health index over 130 is less good for your economy (profits). Above 130, and it generally stops doing anything for your welfare index (which is the part that helps your economy most). He didn't say that no matter what, someone with 131 health index will find it impossible to make profits. He never said having higher health index will ruin your economy. It just stops providing economic benefit around 130 based off what I've seen (and what I'm guessing Kaizer Zen's seen) + what the documentation seems to say about some game mechanics.

If you decide to go above 130, you are choosing to do so for reasons besides economic ones in my opinion, which is fine. I may go above 130 myself soon to pursue a higher game level and gold coin awards. Generally though, my goal is to be as profitable as possible, so show me the error of my ways if you can so I can make more money. :)

The players you reference from FB make tons of money because they're good players, not because of whatever their health index is.

Kaizer Zen

Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 12:38 am Click here to edit this post
@Weyland My post was explaining what having a high health index can do to a country over time. I'm not using my own country Azov as an example because it's still in development stage and is experimental.

On KB however I have 5 countries, 4 fully developed and 1 that's transitioning to enterprise corporation ownership. Out of those 5 countries, I am in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th place financially. With one country still in development, which will most likely replace my current 1st place country.

I'm not trying to go for top rank in what ever it may be, to me rank and game level doesn't matter. Game levels for me are only to help with building corporations that require a higher game level, but to each their own.

I'm simply stating that the maximum welfare bonus from healthcare is 130, any higher will not effect your welfare index or production efficiency, and also can cause population aging which will become burdensome eventually.

King Emperor Lee

Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 03:53 am Click here to edit this post
Kaizer Zen is a more like Frank Spencer from "Some Mother's do ave them!"

Weyland

Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I see players who are on game level 11 who still make $100T a month.

You say you won't level up.

I say won't means can't.

I'm still building population on this account but I've played this game before and I'll level up and I'll look after my ageing population rather than let them die and I'll still have a strong economy despite the extra welfare costs.

I'm not impressed by players who focus only on the war game or the econ game. I'm a president, my game is harder than that. Neither do I have any respect for players outside of FB, or those who hide behind large federations they didn't help to build.

I don't mean any offence, I just think the game you play is too easy and it bores me.

Kaizer Zen

Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post
@Weyland to each their own. I'm simply giving my take on efficiency. No offence taken.

UNION STATES KING

Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 09:25 pm Click here to edit this post
@Weyland, People have different views and ideas on how to play the game.

Weyland

Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Slick edit.


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