| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 12:33 am |
Declaration of War
Thu Mar 19, 2572 Fire Templar has declared war on SD06. War will start on 19-07-2572.
War Situation Index 53.00
Defense Index 1.27
Defensive Force Index 1.13
Offensive Force Index 1.21
Strategic Force Index 0.76
Welfare Index 57.65
Assets 7,287.71B SC$
Corporation Value 4,676.98B SC$
What use would the UC and its cowardly leaders need to declare on a defenseless country? I know the answer, but I figured id ask you guys:P...but its all good, their time will come, and they will lose alot more than defenseless countries. good day cowards.
| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 01:35 am |
You can't threaten me in IRC and expect me to stand idly by doing nothing. Besides, that was your only country out of protection.
By the way, I declared, not the UC. This is between you and me.
| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 02:08 am |
Threaten you....thats all you asses have done lately...o well...have fun, your day to lose countries will come...and no jf, youll know when its between you and me...soon, my fake ass compadre
| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 03:09 am |
I remember in recent history when you spoke of pandoras box and karma. I see it has found you once again!
I'm with JF on this 1. You are always flappin your piehole. On several occsions you've threatened me personally, tellin me how your gonna de-pop me and such...and that you'll fire at will. You think folks are gonna stand back and take it? HA! Lemme telll ya somethin dude, your not scary anymore. Your about as hollow and fake as anyone can be. At 1 time I thought you had the skills to back up that mouth of yours but after the Great War I and the rest of SC know that YOU are the coward. The AF woulda done much better had the BIG BAD MARINE stepped up and defended them. Hell, alot of your Fed DEPENDED on you. Nope, for the most part you hid in protecto and let countries fall. Yeah, you came out with 3 that I know of. I own 2 of them and Awesome owns the other.
And as far as John Fire goes...
If you threaten him your threatening me. Keep it up boy and you'll NEVER be able to take any country out of protection on GR without me pummeling it. Thats not a threat, just the way it is.
| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 04:57 am |
we will see soon the way it is propaganda will get you nowhere.
| Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:03 am |
neither will using those dumb little smiley faces.
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 08:24 am |
This victory doesn't prove any military skill on my part, but the arrogance on Ameche's part.
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 03:02 pm |
Arrogance my ass. You guys think you can sit there and push my buttons and I'm supposed to sit there like a good lil slave boy and take it. Get over yourself, you continue to disrespect me, I will do the same to you. If you don't like it, only one way to change it. You have done nothing but sit up on your perch in IRC and belittle me. I can see you don't like give and take. Too bad JF, you accomplished nothing but you did add to the laundry list of offenses you and your "fed" have committed. And trust me, I use the word "fed" lightly. You're more like a band of wandering homeless people. Fighting things not because you have to, but because you want to prove a shaky at best point. So I guess all thats left to say is I hope you enjoyed it while it was easy. It won't be so easy for you next time. Next time it's the jugular my friend. I promise I won't make you suffer. :/
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 08:43 pm |
'Next time it won't be so easy because I have a few off world friends that I hope will come to my aid, er.. I mean 'volunteer' to save my butt, because I don't want to risk fighting you myself John Fire'
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 08:45 pm |
I can already predict what will be posted next in this thread.
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 08:56 pm |
OOOBBBLLLAAA OOOBBBLLLAAA OOOBBBLLLAAA !!!!!
Bet you didn't see that coming......
| Friday, August 1, 2008 - 11:59 pm |
lol, no, not at all.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 01:14 am |
Lmao Treas. You are the creeping Jesus of this forum :P
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 01:35 am |
come on SFO! There's only one smart ass allowed on GR forum and that's me! the nerve
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 01:59 am |
Fire Templar ....I remember that country. Tasted like chicken.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 02:38 am |
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 02:41 am |
UCMJ. Uniform Code of Military Justice for you JohnL...You stand charged with the following crimes. How do you plead?
894. ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who--
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court- martial may direct.
899. ART. 99. MISBEHAVIOR BEFORE THE ENEMY
Any person subject to this chapter who before or in the presence of the enemy--
(1) runs away;
(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;
(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;
(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;
(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;
(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;
(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;
(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle;
shall be punished by death or such punishment as a court- martial may direct.
900. ART. 100. SUBORDINATE COMPELLING SURRENDER
Any person subject to this chapter who compels or attempts to compel the commander of any place, vessel, aircraft, or military property, or of any body of members of the armed forces, to give it up to an enemy or to abandon it, or who strikes the colors or flag to any enemy without proper authority, shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
And I threw this in because I found it amusing...
925. ART. 125. SODOMY
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Any attacks by you on the person bringing these charges will result in me coming back to GR and kicking your ass. I hate GR. And coming back is unpleasant to me. But for you I will make the sacrifice. More time answering charges less time preening in messages.
Treason even in a game is despicable....
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 03:04 am |
Was the country def lost in any AF fed?
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 03:09 am |
If one AF member fires at bayar on GR they will regret it I promise you.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 03:31 am |
I was right all along.
John L. I will warn you now. You as much as fire ant poo at Mr. Saratoga, I will clean your clock like you have never seen before.
Being sound of mind and body, I Christopher Ameche find you guilty of the following crimes:
Illegal aiding of the enemy in time of war
How could you John? And I do not want to hear about your bogus excuses that I was chairman too long. You did not give me up. You gave up AF. You're a traitor. I offer this proof.
"I objected to being associated with the vulgarity used in forum by the AF Chairman"
"When these did not stop, I attempted to organize a peaceful change of leadfership in AF. This failing, I was planning to forcefully remove Ameche in a revolutionary effort and I was guaranteed the support of the UC."
First of all John. Not your call. Secondly, you saw how our fed was being berated, myself included. But did you step up? NO. And let me put it this way, you fake vet. Yankee was so right about you. I looked up to you man. I looked to you for guidance. You stabbed me in the back. Just like Yankee said you would. I will tell you one thing. The day you could remove me from ANYTHING, I will leave this game, no questions asked. You are a sad individual. Your day is coming.
Having found you guilty of the afore mentioned charges, I hereby sentence you to banishment from GR. And yes, in case you are wondering. I can and will make sure it is done. You made me carry this burden, when all along it was your fault. I am going to vindicate myself all over that ass. Watch your back, cuz Deffy is coming for you. Good day, traitor.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 03:53 am |
Today I left GR. I posted my reasons to the AF CM. Foremost among these is AF wont fight for its members. The issue of whether UC is right or wrong is moot as long as the members of UC follow appeasement. I also figure there is enough firepower on GR now to deal with the issues and people there and will now go back to my orignal intent. Although i never recieved a message on the sale of my country there I understand someone did not want that sale to go through. Since I did not recieve the message yet I am being told it was sent (disinformation for the faithful I guess), I will have to respond to it here! Oh gee I think I will let the sale speak for me.
Now AF! Your federation failed to support its leadership! Your federation then turned on that leadership! Your federation or a few members in it saw fit to appease the agressors to your federation! Of course this does not go for all the members of the AF but enough to have gotten away with it. The coup caused confussion at a time when clarity was needed, and it was nothing less than a coup, treason by any other name. The motives behind all this were personal survivability, this is not the mark of a leader. The appeasement of enemies is not the road to peace but to subjection. Leadership is also about a persons word, keeping it is first and foremost, not last and who gives a crap! I wonder how much some people got for making peace with UC and why UC wanted peace so badly at the time they did! Each person has to ask and answer those questions, some have, others havent bothered and never will. It will be interesting to watch things as they now unfold on GR.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 05:35 am |
greetings Mr. DavePat
I will let these quotes speak to you sir. I just want to make sure the that this error is not believed because it was NOT the United Confederation who was asking for peace or even for a cease fire but it was the AF and the offworlders who were beat up and wanting to be granted peace. I was very much ready to continue to pummel the AF and the offworlders who had tried to bring it on. There were meetings of peace delegations from both sides and the treaty was hammered out and agreed upon. So yes there is an agreement of peace between The United Confederation Golden Rainbow and the Allied Forces Golden Rainbow. Pay special attention to the Article II>
Simcountry: Simcountry Bulletin Board: Golden Rainbow: Cease Fire (Golden Rainbow)
The Mourning Star (Golden Rainbow)
Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 03:48 am
On this date and time both AF(def, myself, saber, sam houston) and UC(priest, cross and JF) have agreed, in spirit, to a cease fire. All other combatants, on both sides, will be brought up to speed in the next 1-2 days.
As each member learns of this cease fire, they will agree to initiate no further declarations.
There are currently numerous small active wars ongoing. Given the fog of war, neither party should consider it an overt act of disregard for this cease fire if shot are fired. Time is simply needed for this to filter down through the ranks.
More to come.
As a show of good faith I will be un-protecting fire bastion and preparing it for return to John Fire.
This is my own personal act and is not meant to indicate that others should follow suit. Its just the way I play.
I will be dereging over the next week down to a leader nation only.
John Fire (Golden Rainbow)
Monday, July 21, 2008 - 05:29 pm
In the interest of preserving peace, the United Confederation and Allied Forces on Golden Rainbow agree to abide by the following terms:
Both Allied Forces and the United Confederation agree not to attack each other or allow any of their member's to attack each other. Should any member attack the other federation, both federations are obligated to declare war on this member. Should any member decide to leave either federation and attack the other federation, both federations are obligated to attack this member. Both sides agree that hostile acts such as boycotts, uninvited bidding on private and state corporations and anti-nuclear security council resolutions will not be tolerated and will be viewed as an attack. This shall be applied to all current and future members of both the United Confederation and Allied Forces.
Allied Forces Acknowledges that they requested a ceasefire from the United Confederation.
Allied Forces agrees to freeze expansion on Paova Major and the region of North Franklin on Centura Donna. This means no new countries may be brought under the AF banner in these regions. The United Confederation agrees to freeze expansion on Hercula Major. This means no new countries may be brought under the UC banner on this continent.
This treaty will be posted on the Simcountry Golden Rainbow Forum under the title "The Treaty of the Great War" and will be publicly signed by the agreed upon representatives of the UC and AF. After which, the treaty will come into full effect.
This treaty may be renegotiated at any time if both sides agree to renegotiate it. Any percieved violation must be discussed between representatives of the United Confederation and Allied Forces for a 72 hour period before any action will be taken.
Finally as far as Mr. Ameche goes he had left the Allied Forces and will be attacked any time he is mouthing off to Pope John Fire. In fact one of the biggest factors that caused me to go to war with AF in the first place was the way that Mr. Ameche was so disrespectful towards myself and others in in this game. So I must applaud John L if he did indeed plan to overthrow Mr. Ameche. I shall not debate whether John L had planned such an action nor if such an action is either right or wrong. But if that was the case then perhaps John L. can be called a true patriot as can be seen in this quote >
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. â€” That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, â€” That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. â€” Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
So perhaps there is a similarity to be seen here pehaps United Confederation as well as John L. saw (and still do see ) Mr. Ameche as a modern day King George who wishes to rule simcountry in tyranny but who must be stood up against and shown for the coward and bully that he really is in this game.
Nute Gunray the Viceroy
Chairman of United Confederation Golden Rainbow
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 05:51 am |
I dont recall anyone mentioning you? Guilty dog barking?
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 05:52 am |
To: Quetzalcoatl God of War (Little Upsilon),
This forum does not have jurisdiction to charge me of any crimes.
PS: I like the last charge you threw in just for fun. I wonder who of the above individuals who have posted above it could be levied against. Maybe...Never mind I wont name anyone.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 05:54 am |
I will take that as your plea. I judge you guilty as charged, convicted by your own words.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 05:55 am |
Yeah, it's best you don't. John this forum has all the jurisdiction it needs. What I said will happen will happen, and no matter how much you try to talk yourself out of it, it will still remain a fact. You are a traitor, and will be dealt with. Fire a shot...I dare you.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 11:48 am |
Maybe the AF turned on Ameche because he was directly linked to the start of the war, then got his ass whipped, then hid in protection stoking the flames of war while his "friends" got whipped too.....eh, jest a thought
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 04:34 pm |
I dont recall mentioning anything about UC.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 09:09 pm |
To start, my issues are with AF leadership and not UC. That should be clear. I have found respect for the players of UC and they are always fair in their dealings with me. I have learned that not all in AF were open and fair when it came to internal matters, however. My displeasure lies there.
I think that both feds have a smattering of "talkers/stokers" and "quiet diplomatic" types.
Were the diplomatic types plotting to kill the talkers, in the "UC," whose words and actions were perhaps perpetuating the war and costing assets? Somehow I doubt it.
Ive been playing long enough to know there are appropriate ways to usurp power within a fed. There are appropriate ways to make a statement that "I have had enough of this war." Plotting to kill the chair, during war, because he cursed or was perhaps angry and verbose about the environment at that time, cant possibly be right.
Some players in AF openly stated during the war they have had enough and went into protection. They cant be faulted. They spoke up openly and stated they were done. Others, apparently, appeared to be less open.
If AF felt that def was responsible for this war, and that AF was better off without him as chair, he should have been removed from the chair position via an open vote and discussion, and the future of the war direction should have been discussed at that point. AF, as a whole, allowed myself and others to set up and ready for war, in order to save their asses. Defcon was always clear and honest. Angry people usually are clear and honest. They cant help themselves.
Frankly I have sense there was some high level back door dealing going on with AF and UC concerning defcons head while AF leadership was counting on "the outsiders" to regain some ground for them. My main reason for being there was defcon not AF. That is a big issue for me. I come in to defend him primarily and AF secondarily, while AF is back door dealing his ass to the enemy. The very person Im trying to save was being given up while AF used our ability stop the main thrust.
This whole discussion speaks to the idea of actually "giving a shit about this game" which I dont.
\sniffles...I have been used...boo whooo.
Well I could always ask for "fee" for my and others services.
How does $100T sound?
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 10:26 pm |
Barney has it right as usual.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 10:45 pm |
Please find a new topic. The source of confusion is in the title. The original post is Defcon complaining that I declared war on him, and that I subsequently took his country which to my knowledge doesn't involve Bayar or John L. As you can see, there is a good reason for UC members to be concerned with talks of war in a thread titled such as this.
| Saturday, August 2, 2008 - 10:59 pm |
have laguna close the thread then. probably for the best at this point anyway.
| Sunday, August 3, 2008 - 12:21 am |
I AM THE LAW. I am Judge Dredd!