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Zens Selling Thread

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Zen

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 06:55 am Click here to edit this post
I made this for me to post info of all my country offers in one place. Every few months I'll be putting up countries ranging 30-290 million population.

Zen

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 07:08 am Click here to edit this post
Xia Dynasty on Little Upsilon.

Was going to start an empire on LU but stopped and now focusing on KB. Need to get rid of this country.

37,502,289 population
44 state corporations
9 enterprise corporations
131.95 edu
134.96 health
86.23 social security
91.60 employment
132.86 transportation
155.27 finance
34.77B income 23.36B cost
126.6 welfare( will reach 130 )

asking 100 coins

Zen

Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 07:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Selling WG on White Giant.

Left a small gift of 15 million ammo upgrades, forgot to take them off lol

79,774,422 population
3 state corporations
127 country controlled public corporations
6 enterprise controlled public corporations
136.64 edu
131 health
86.23 social security
92.60 employment
132.81 transportation
180.23 finance
178.54B income 61.2B cost
126.22 welfare

asking 175 coins

Zen

Friday, December 25, 2015 - 11:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Didn't sell.

Now asking 150 coins.

odssstudents1

Saturday, December 26, 2015 - 11:54 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't see it listed for sale.

Zen

Wednesday, January 6, 2016 - 02:39 am Click here to edit this post
@Odss late reply was sold to Zeek.

Selling 200 strategic bombs 303q on space station at 10gc per 25 bombs. These nukes must go. A total of 80gc for 200 bombs. May push lower if not sold within next few days. Is already a deal. Still holds highest quality on space market.

Zen

Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 09:44 pm Click here to edit this post
F Zero on Golden Rainbow

Average Age 33.52
57,164,050 population
85 state corporations
131.63 edu
128.72 health
82.55 social security
95.47 employment
130.94 transportation
134.09 finance
51.065B income 36.726B cost
125.29 welfare

asking 175 coins

Zen

Monday, January 25, 2016 - 02:52 am Click here to edit this post
CYBR Industries on WG( Enterprise )

Getting off wg for now. Don't feel like putting up with the fee.

202 Private corporations
16 Public corporations
740.07B Total monthly production
108.84B monthly profit
All corporations fully upgraded with steady income with the exception of...
10 Anti Aircraft Missile Corporations
10 Missile Interceptor Corporations
10 Defensive Missile Corporations
These are my only non profit corporations.
Avg profit per corp( from military )500-700m remember these are enterprise corporations, each one pays around 600m to the countries they are in. So most are making over 1B -country cost. If anyone wants to move them in their own country.
Also has a very small number of left over military assets I couldnt transport. With 300 stealth bombers at 406q

Before you buy, I suggest looking at the enterprise on White Giant. To know exactly what corps you're getting.

Asking 150gc. Will not fall below 130gc as I had to pay for an extra enterprise just to put it up. Forgot to mention. The enterprise overall value is just above 80T. A nice little property for 150gc. Normally I'd ask for more, but I don't care much for it and need to get off wg.

Zen

Saturday, March 19, 2016 - 12:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Name your price.

https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=50&miCountryNumber=3185

This is my starter FB country now named "Stripping" however I never really stripped it. It needs some work, but can provide a nice little country to help if you're willing to fix it up. I've been off simcountry for about a month and after coming back most of my important countries are in a very bad economic situation. I want to get rid of this country asap. Any buyers? Minimum price is 100gc. When in good condition it should provide a very good economy for its size. I suggest closing a few corporations however as the population has dropped a few million while I was gone. I'll get ready to put it up for sale once someone is willing to buy.

Zen

Friday, April 1, 2016 - 02:29 pm Click here to edit this post
291 Million Population country on KB

Dark Euphorium

My current main on KB. After an inactivity period I never put the country on auto pilot. Now it's a huge mess. It still profits, just barely. Even with only 67 employment. I don't feel like fixing it up. I also NEED gc. So instead of stripping it down to feed my empire I'll just sell it. If I get enough who're interested in buying I'll force up the population to 299 million. The country has the potential to be #1 finance rank on KB. I had it at #1 before I went inactive. However there's no way that's possible in its current state. Has great corps, just no employment. Total of 444 state corps. All profitable. Asking 500gc or more. Think of it like this. ( 280x5 ) is 1400gc. 1400gc worth of population alone. This country can also be a one time bulk purchase to strip down and spread the population throughout your empire for 1/3 the cost of population, or keep it and spend a few weeks fixing her up. Honestly idc what you do with it. Just take it off my hands. PM me offers. Message my account. Or message the following

Xenov( enterprise )on KB
Zennoken( enterprise )on FB
CYBR Industries( enterprise )on WG
Reichswehr( enterprise )on GR
I'm not on LU so you'll have to message my account.

https://sim01.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=66&miCountryNumber=2393

Just to clarify this isn't an April fools either.

Casual Industries

Saturday, April 2, 2016 - 01:52 am Click here to edit this post
But you should come to LU. :)

Khome

Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:37 am Click here to edit this post
Country for sale on KB, 75M population, public corps. Up for bidding.

Thanks

Zen

Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
Strip country for sale. 53.4 million population. Need to get rid of it. 100gc. Pretty easy to get going on, has fairly good employment, good corporations. Needs some fixing up but I'm getting off kb and it would be a waste to let it go without selling.

Zen

Friday, July 1, 2016 - 04:15 am Click here to edit this post
Wow! It didn't sell? Who would miss that deal. No matter. Bumped the population up to 56.845 million. 100gc. Who in the right mind would pass up this offer. Someone please buy this, so wasteful for me to just abandon it. It costs 60gc for 10 million population. Why not just buy 56.8 million +59 profitable corporations for 100gc instead?

Zen

Monday, July 11, 2016 - 05:53 am Click here to edit this post
50K SC Maintenance Units around 277-303q.( for cargo shuttles )1.5gc per 1000. Come get them while supplies last on Libra space station. With this quality you'll be using around 0.4 units per trip.

Zen

Monday, July 18, 2016 - 06:01 am Click here to edit this post
Zeta Canis on Golden Rainbow

population 61,363,038
avg age 33.11
27 CCPC @24.98% share ownership
54 State corporations
4 very profitable ECPC
edu 128.01
health 115.03
employment 92.46
transport 127.6
welfare 126.08
>100 finance because 0 tax 0 profit share however all corporations are very profitable.

Not for sale yet doing final preperations but should be up by next day of this post. Asking for 140gc

On a side note this country has a twin next to it. Cybran III which I will be selling at the same price shortly. Similar population and corporation setup.

Zen

Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 05:14 am Click here to edit this post
Procyon on Golden Rainbow

Population 128,900,796
avg age 34.43
State Corporations 132
66 CCPC @24.98% share ownership 250q/250e
Enterprise Corporations 1
ECPC 9
Education 113.71
Health 98.55
Employment 94.63
Transportation 127.16
Welfare 104.07

Will be put up soon. Asking 275 coins.

Zen

Tuesday, August 2, 2016 - 11:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Are people missing from simcountry or something? I guess I'll inform people again on this deal. The country Procyon which has been renamed Zenovia GR Outpost is being sold for 200gc. With 175 million population. That's 1.14gc per million population.

Now I want this to be very clear so whoever buys it doesnt feel cheated. Which they're not because its a huge country for a super cheap price. The country's population is dropping at a very fast rate and will keep dropping for some time. It should only be used for a country to drain population from. Whoever buys it should already have an empire on GR that they can transfer the country's population into, if a player buys it as their only GR country then they should immediately conquer a c3 country and transfer its population and make that the main country. This country has great corporations that you can buy into an enterprise as well if you own one on gr. 175 million population and over 150 state corporations.( 254 state corporations total including public )for just 200gc please bid asap as the deal is about to reset and you'll have to wait 24 more hours from now, or you could just sell all of its population idc I need the gc right now and I need it off my hands. If you sell its population down to 80 million you'll probably make over 100gc on that as well. Then once it hits 80 million and cant be sold you can transfer the rest to your empire, but be warned im not encouraging you to sell population as the effects are very bad on your empire.

SeizeForce

Wednesday, August 3, 2016 - 12:20 am Click here to edit this post
You selling any country on LU Zen?

Zen

Wednesday, August 3, 2016 - 12:37 am Click here to edit this post
No I have a country with around 130 million population +100T SC$ going to someone for 200gc on lu. Afterwards I'll start an econ empire( not selling countries )on White Giant and get off LU

SeizeForce

Wednesday, August 3, 2016 - 01:43 am Click here to edit this post
What countries you selling on KB?

Zen

Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 01:51 am Click here to edit this post
Empire of Darkness on White Giant

Currently at 227 million population. Will reach around 300 million population. Looking for future buyer. I will be selling shares of the corporations before sale. So all corporations will be owned at 24.98%. All corporations will be upgraded to 250/250. Income expected to be over 500B per month when completed. With 75 tax 100 profit transfer. Currently just over 200B income per month. This is still very low as most corporations are new and not upgraded. Welfare is also low at the moment.

Country expected to be the largest and financially strongest on White Giant. Looking for future buyers. Bidding will start at 600gc. Message my country, or my account if not on WG. This wont be for at least 30 days. Need to sort out population age, workforce shortages and country indexes. The country will also include 100 active interceptor wings and 100 helicopter wings. With 2 million int and heli ammunition. Will also include 50 stealth bomber wings, 10 MRMB/OAAMB LRDs. 100 Conventional missile batteries. 10,000 conventional missiles at 120q. 1,000 Land Based Cruise Batteries 100,000 Land Based Cruise Missiles around 180q. 20 transport wings. 5 RDUs. 20 Special Forces. 10 Fighter/Bomber wings.

I'll throw in 50,000,000 ammunition upgrades and 5,000,000 weapon upgrades. Indexes will be 130 edu, 120 health, 82 social security, 130 transportation. Employment will be around 95. Corporate worker salary 400. Government salary 320.

Consumption will be stocked 24 months. Some will be stocked up decades worth of supplies. This increases consumption index, which increases welfare. The country will have a lot of assets inside of it from just the population and income itself.

If buyers request( cluster map )I will move all objects on the map in the middle and place 50 land defense battalions spread across the country. To offer maximum defense. I will increase to 700gc if buyer requests defensive missiles, missile interceptors, anti aircraft missiles, nuclear defense missiles( one 600q nuclear defense mobile unit ). I'll try to leave 2,000,000 LLW and 500,000 MLM free for military staff.

This obviously isnt a strong defense for the size of the country. However I do not want to invest military assets into this sale. So I will only offer a modest defense at best.

Edit: If a buyer requests all corporations to stay state and make no public. Price will be increased to 800gc. This is before military assets. With military assets it will be 1,000gc.

Take an example. 400 corporations that are valued at 500B sell 75.02% of their shares. The owner will gain 150.04T SC$ in sales.( much more if you add increasing corporation value during IPO stage. )

The current price of SC$ based off of 1,000,000 300q electric at .5gc is 235.62B per coin. 150.04T is worth roughly 636.79gc.

Zen

Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post
Update, the country has hit 300 million population. I will now start to sort out worker surplus and shortages to maximize employment. There are currently 435 state owned corporations in the country. That's more corporations than the average enterprise.

Currently at 351.05 Billion SC$ monthly income. 126.6 million employed workers, 27.12 million unemployed workers. 447.37 Billion SC$ monthly worker salary income. 8.81T SC$ worth of government assets.

Papastorm is the highest bidder at 800gc. Country should be finished near the end of October.

Zen

Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 03:24 pm Click here to edit this post
May take longer than expected. My internet has been down for a week and won't be back up until Tuesday so I haven't been on except once in a while using my phone. Also for the first time within two months I went from 500T to tens of trillions in debt because of constant military spending, so I'll have to slow down the process. /:

Zen

Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Anyone looking for some large countries on Fearless Blue? They're not in good condition. One has over 170 million population one will have over 130 million population. Will sell them soon once I move the stuff out. Infinity and Rapture

PM me offers. I won't set prices. I will repeat. These countries are not in good shape. However they have a hefty population you can move into other countries if you want to drain them. Decreasing my FB empire to just my transfer slaves. If someone also wants The Empire of Baltimore I'll increase its population to 40 million, build its infrastructure back up and sell it for 100gc.

All of these countries are bordering eachother and Zentrino has a large country bordering them that I sold to him. If you're allies with him, even better.

papastorm

Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 12:15 am Click here to edit this post
I'll take all of them. I sent you a message.

Psycho_Honey

Friday, November 25, 2016 - 12:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I'll take them all for 100gc total. That would require selling them to me one by one for 100 gc each and you buying my c3s to keep the exchange even. Sounds good? I would like to do this as soon as possible.

Zen

Friday, November 25, 2016 - 07:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Papastorm is giving me 750gc for them and the third one isn't being sold anymore.

Psycho_Honey

Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 06:59 am Click here to edit this post
750GC for 2 countries? Ludicrous. I understand they have some value, but that is way too much. If you want to benefit the game, build them up with your methods and sell them to players who may stick around in the game at a discount. Call it community service.

Zen

Sunday, November 27, 2016 - 08:54 pm Click here to edit this post
It takes me a while to build them and the cost it takes for me to build their corporations/infrastructure and military weapons lost from c3 wars is too much for me to sell them at a dirt price. No one else is selling countries often, so currently I have no competition and I set my prices at what I feel is fair. If I get competition and have no buyers I may lower prices.

Zen

Sunday, November 27, 2016 - 08:58 pm Click here to edit this post
100 gc for around 300 million population is insanely low. It costs 1800gc for 300 million population if bought from the gm. So 900gc would be 3gc per million population for 300 million population. I sold my countries at 2.5gc per million population which I believe is pretty low.

Not to mention the cost of military assets lost due to c3 wars and corporations. If I sold a very large country with all state owned corporations the player can increase corporate value beyond a hundred trillion.

The only alternative is a SC$ payout. One trillion per 500k population. so if the country has 200 million people I'd expect 100T SC$. The player can make most of that back with the shares of the corporations in the country or simply keep the corporations without selling shares. This is a great way for econ players, or players short on gc to get large countries without using gc for them. How it works is simple. They set up a small slave with 100T in it and I take it over, then I have them sell an item in space for 500gc and I buy it giving them 500gc. Then I put up the country for 515gc so that they can bid on it.

Psycho_Honey

Monday, November 28, 2016 - 03:22 am Click here to edit this post
Seems a bit complex for something like that. Lots of ifs, ands, and buts. Leaving far too much room for error. Space is unnecessary for this process. Am I missing something?

The 100T in SC$ is fine, even 200T for the right country with good demographics. But the Gold Coin has a value that is far above and beyond what the exchange rate is. You show a lot of potential Zen, but let's not put anyone here who doesn't really understand value under any illusions.

I am a magician, I can create money in SC with relative ease. Many others all over the forum have given examples of how to do it as well. Overpaying in SC$'s is totally easy to overlook because of the possibility to create it within the game. In fairness, This is a good medium of exchange because you are giving something created within the game for something created within the game. Currently, GC are converted to Cash, a tiny unimpressive and extremely wasteful sum is what you get. Since the SC$ has been restricted from conversion to GC, anyone overpaying for countries using GC should just quit while they are ahead.

I understand there is effort and 'some' value. But it is still overvalued, the GM pop rate has Zilch to do with that formula. I have heard these equations and counter equations many, many times before you reincarnated into your present form.

You're like a car salesman looking for a sucker. For all the preaching on how you lot like to help players so much, I wish you would match your boasts with acts and not fleece people with a narrow view into buying these dingy contraptions you are putting together.

Zen

Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 08:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Well if that's the case maybe we need competition. As of now I am the only one actively doing this. The process is very simple it just requires some time and SC$.

I posted a guide on how to do this, and it is pretty simple. I'm sure before I posted that guide players have been doing it for years. So why isn't anyone else using this to sell their own countries? If a player dedicated about an hour a day attacking 5 countries every day or two and taking 5 minutes every day per 4 hours on their phone/computer transferring population they could transfer up to 12 million population a day( which is almost impossible I know ). Within 20 days you can have a 240 million population country, and most players will buy it for 400gc+.

A large country with state owned corporations is worth hundreds of trillions of SC$. Currently the market for gc in electric power is roughly around 250B SC$ per gc. 400gc is worth around 100T SC$. A country with around say 400 corporations, which you can get with around 250 million population can have a collective corporate value over 200T SC$ if they're set up correctly. If a player sold half of the shares in those corporations as they're still increasing in value they can get over 100T SC$.

So with that in mind, the country is worth over 400gc by corporate value alone. My past countries were over priced that is true. This is because I sold off the shares before selling the countries. My more recently sold ones were sold to players who know me and papastorm told me directly he would pay extra for them. Which is nice.

That is just the value in corporations minus the huge population and infrastructure. A lot of my recent sales were trashed countries I went inactive on, but when I build countries specifically to sell I always try to make it as economically efficient as possible. I know I'm not perfect, but I still build some pretty efficient countries that usually hit the #1 top finance ranking on their world that isn't LU if they're over 200 million population.

I can easily make 100T SC$ in less time than building a large country with minimal effort to sell in electric since I have the benefit of utilizing every worlds' market through my enterprises. However it is something unique I believe I am doing. Which is why the prices are what they are. In my opinion I believe they are at very good prices. Since I've bought more expensive countries that have much less population.

Once there is some competition I will lower prices. Currently there isn't much because well... no one has time to do it. In my opinion. Which I can understand. This is why I haven't sold much in recent months.

I'm honestly not here to make it easier for people buying countries, I'm doing it for my own growth. Just like any other capitalist. As long as there is a demand for countries I'll be selling them at prices I choose. If people don't want to buy I lower them, but there is a market for me in this that I want to engage in.

Psycho_Honey

Wednesday, November 30, 2016 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
We know you aren't here to make it easier for anyone else. This attitude prevails. I find it interesting given some of your previous statements. I'm all for making a buck, but you are getting over big time. Let me know when you start selling cars, I'll send someone I don't like your way to buy one from you. BTW, I can't read essays. Stop trying to explain value to me as if I have been playing for 10 days now with no previous experience. I appreciate the effort though, however right you think you are.

Zen

Wednesday, November 30, 2016 - 05:18 am Click here to edit this post
Okay.

Zentrino

Wednesday, November 30, 2016 - 09:12 pm Click here to edit this post
I have purchased countries from Zen. I have felt I have paid a fair price every time. I don't want the hassle of building a country with a large population because I don't want to log on every day multiple times a day for weeks on end. I appreciate that he does it and then sells the country to me at a good and fair gc price. I know I could do it myself but I won't. I could change own oil too, but I always take the car to the shop and pay. Sometimes it is just easier and worth it to do it that way.


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