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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 07:08Link
On 12 September 2337 (game time), the Evil Woody Thought Empire did receive a declaration of war from Wendy.
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Fwd: Declaration of War
From: I Told You Its Too Late
To: Evil Woody Thoughts 0 CEO tax
Real Date: 27-11-2008 06:40:59
World Date: September 12 2337
Subject: Fwd: Declaration of War
Message: This is an official declaration of war against Evil Woody Thoughts Beaches 0 CEO tax. War will start on 12-01-2338.
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The proximate cause of this declaration of war is that I called Wendy a "troll" and said that I would refuse to explain why I thought she was having workers shortages. That Wendy is a troll is a statement of fact, and nothing more. I am not the one running around declaring war upon, and sneak attacking, everything in sight. Never in my existence in SimCountry have I ever declared war agains
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Fwd: Declaration of War
From: I Told You Its Too Late
To: Evil Woody Thoughts 0 CEO tax
Real Date: 27-11-2008 06:40:59
World Date: September 12 2337
Subject: Fwd: Declaration of War
Message: This is an official declaration of war against Evil Woody Thoughts Beaches 0 CEO tax. War will start on 12-01-2338.
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The proximate cause of this declaration of war is that I called Wendy a "troll" and said that I would refuse to explain why I thought she was having workers shortages. That Wendy is a troll is a statement of fact, and nothing more. I am not the one running around declaring war upon, and sneak attacking, everything in sight. Never in my existence in SimCountry have I ever declared war agains
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Darkmatter (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 08:39Link
Agreed, i will message in-game.
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 08:44Link
Well, like I said, my greatest weapon would be a collection of boycott votes
because she does not have anything worth conquering that is not in her secured country.
because she does not have anything worth conquering that is not in her secured country.W
Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 09:32Link
Keith you are Right . . .
The reason for the declaration is your calling me a troll, not refusing to give me advice, for one, the request for advice was directed at Tom Willard , who may be able to explain the problem well.
You on the other hand have attacked me a few times with your motor mouth, I have NEVER insulted you or been aggressive to you. Yet you constantly post negative comments on any non aggressive forum thread I post on. This is LU politics at its best. When I ran my mouth uncontrollably, there were consequences, declarations followed and such. I don't see how you would be any different. Your forum attacks should not be excused as non aggression simply because you didn't declare. You clearly seek to have an issue with The High Profitess who has never sought you out for any reason.
Keep in mind, had I been "trolling" on that thread I would have excused your comments like I have before on other thread
The reason for the declaration is your calling me a troll, not refusing to give me advice, for one, the request for advice was directed at Tom Willard , who may be able to explain the problem well.
You on the other hand have attacked me a few times with your motor mouth, I have NEVER insulted you or been aggressive to you. Yet you constantly post negative comments on any non aggressive forum thread I post on. This is LU politics at its best. When I ran my mouth uncontrollably, there were consequences, declarations followed and such. I don't see how you would be any different. Your forum attacks should not be excused as non aggression simply because you didn't declare. You clearly seek to have an issue with The High Profitess who has never sought you out for any reason.
Keep in mind, had I been "trolling" on that thread I would have excused your comments like I have before on other thread
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 10:24Link
"This is LU politics at its best. When I ran my mouth uncontrollably, there were consequences, declarations followed and such."
Wendy, one of those consequences was a hit to your reputation. Whether you liked it or not, players who did not bother to involve themselves in your wars saw you running your mouth uncontrollably (which you yourself just admitted to, at least at one point in time), and formed opinions about your behavior on the forums.
That you declare wars over a single word which many here would consider an accurate statement also reflects poorly upon your reputation. Moreover, I should point out that you and King Hezekiah are pretty much the only two people who have said anything about my posts, the content of which has usually been "ok, you can stop spamming/trolling any time now."
It is true that I have, on occasion, expressed such opinions. I never really liked coming to the LU forum to se
Wendy, one of those consequences was a hit to your reputation. Whether you liked it or not, players who did not bother to involve themselves in your wars saw you running your mouth uncontrollably (which you yourself just admitted to, at least at one point in time), and formed opinions about your behavior on the forums.
That you declare wars over a single word which many here would consider an accurate statement also reflects poorly upon your reputation. Moreover, I should point out that you and King Hezekiah are pretty much the only two people who have said anything about my posts, the content of which has usually been "ok, you can stop spamming/trolling any time now."
It is true that I have, on occasion, expressed such opinions. I never really liked coming to the LU forum to se
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 12:03Link
This isn't a popularity contest. I don't care what you think about me, or anyone else for that matter. What matters is that you took a shot at me on more than one occasion, I even warned you that doing so again would result in a war declaration, I let it slide once. I will not again. That declaration is to keep your country open until I set up on your continent.
I don't care what you like or don't like about me, the point is not to look for trouble and you have failed in this aspect of your game. You have been relatively quiet on the forums except in my case which strikes me as odd because I have never said anything negative to or about you.
If you are really interested in peace you would issue a full apology for being an asshat and begging for a contest. But I see you are full of yourself. No problem. I will give you full compensation for your asshatery Mr, Asshat.
Buy WP, attack the c3, get your boosters, expan
I don't care what you like or don't like about me, the point is not to look for trouble and you have failed in this aspect of your game. You have been relatively quiet on the forums except in my case which strikes me as odd because I have never said anything negative to or about you.
If you are really interested in peace you would issue a full apology for being an asshat and begging for a contest. But I see you are full of yourself. No problem. I will give you full compensation for your asshatery Mr, Asshat.
Buy WP, attack the c3, get your boosters, expan
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 12:12Link
It is you who owes me an apology, for declaring a war of aggression. You could have had white peace after I wiped that war you declared on me, but it seems with your belligerent tone you turn your nose up at the opportunity...
I am not liable for any damage to your empire that may result.
I am not liable for any damage to your empire that may result.
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 12:33Link
Sure damage all my c3s. Fack you asshat. You will get all the apology you want in the form of missiles tard.
Thats not trolling is it? Is this going to be a flame war? I dunno but it sure will be for you fewl. LMAO!!
Thats not trolling is it? Is this going to be a flame war? I dunno but it sure will be for you fewl. LMAO!!
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Maxwell (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 15:07Link
My proposal is simple. Add an extra feature when conquering C3's. Right now when your fighting someone who is using a C3 and you win the country your only options are to: End the War which leaves the C3 in your enemies hands to use against you again -OR- take the C3 which means you aquire all the debt your enemies have loaded onto that country (debt bomb).
So your damned if you do or damned if you don't. If you Do take the country you aquire the debt that your enemy used to buy weapons to fight you with "damned".
If you Don't take the country he or she still has the country to use as a platform or gateway to attack you with "damned".
Proposal: A 3rd option Liberation this would allow you to liberate the country that you have defeated from the tyrant that is currently holding it and all debt that was incurred by the country from the world banks under that tyrants rule would immediately be tra
So your damned if you do or damned if you don't. If you Do take the country you aquire the debt that your enemy used to buy weapons to fight you with "damned".
If you Don't take the country he or she still has the country to use as a platform or gateway to attack you with "damned".
Proposal: A 3rd option Liberation this would allow you to liberate the country that you have defeated from the tyrant that is currently holding it and all debt that was incurred by the country from the world banks under that tyrants rule would immediately be tra
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Maxwell (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 15:08Link
I have put this idea up for a vote in the SC proposals and features section you can vote on it there.
I believe it could cure what seems to be a basic problem that allows players to attack others without paying for loans that they take from the world bank in throw away C3's.
I believe it could cure what seems to be a basic problem that allows players to attack others without paying for loans that they take from the world bank in throw away C3's.
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Maxwell (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 15:13Link
If you have the Nads to go to war then you should pay for it.
Gas, Grass or Ass Nobody Rides for Free!
Maxwell
Gas, Grass or Ass Nobody Rides for Free!
Maxwell
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 17:33Link
Sure whatever you say Maxwell, I'm good if you are. This won't stop anything, what you are experiencing is war that would follow you regardless of debt or not. You could liberate that country, and I will just take another. You learned a valuable lesson, don't leave a c3 on your step. If you are going to fire shots you should be willing to conquer. Cost should not be a factor when deciding the commencement of war.
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Tattooed Priest (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 17:38Link
I think that is a very smart proposal Maxwell. I voted for it in the polls. Good work.
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Maxwell (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 17:56Link
This is a game of attrition my dear and as long as your actually paying for those weapons your using it's all good but what you've done is found a loophole in the game and your exploiting it.
If this aspect of the game is not fixed then we will all have to do what your doing and that is to crawl up under the nearest WP rock "like Yourself" with our Main Slaves and play the C3 game which quite frankly does not sound that appealing to me.
Max_is_Well
If this aspect of the game is not fixed then we will all have to do what your doing and that is to crawl up under the nearest WP rock "like Yourself" with our Main Slaves and play the C3 game which quite frankly does not sound that appealing to me.
Max_is_Well
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Bakronesia (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 20:00Link
After reading all the above threads, i find that a declaration of war on "Evil Woody" is necessary, and that i completely support Wendy's actions. It is Keith's use of language that seems to infuriate many countries across the continent. I feel as though Wendy has been unfairly treated for quite some time because of numerous misconceptions developed by countries who are continually jealous of Wendy's great economic and military accomplishments. Good luck in the fight for justice, Wendy.
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
27 Nov 2008 20:26Link
Your presidency start date is December 2305. Which means that you were still on your free trial period (assuming you are not a transplant from another world) or had just left your free trial period, when Wendy ran her mouth an order of magnitude more than I ever have (she admitted running her mouth irresponsibly in this very thread), and sneak attacking innocent presidents.
I tried to point out to her, politely, at the time that her conduct risked making neutrals suspicious of her. She ignored the advice at the time (apparently she cannot accept constructive criticism of her actions), and while Wendy spam has been replaced by Hezekiah spam in the last couple of weeks, she does not have the thick skin to accept that her previous aggressive actions do not endear herself to any who were paying attention at the time they occurred.
I tried to point out to her, politely, at the time that her conduct risked making neutrals suspicious of her. She ignored the advice at the time (apparently she cannot accept constructive criticism of her actions), and while Wendy spam has been replaced by Hezekiah spam in the last couple of weeks, she does not have the thick skin to accept that her previous aggressive actions do not endear herself to any who were paying attention at the time they occurred.
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 02:07Link
Ohhh Ohhh, look whos trolling now. Keith shaddup and get ready for the pain. And stop begging stuart to get me off your back.
Apologize or war. The terms are simple.
Run your trap all you want. But I have learned on LU that , You have to pay the cost to be the boss.
Stuart, for you of cousre, as reasonable as you can be despite our differences, I will of course end all hostilities against Keith should he apologize and learn how how and when to speak without consequence. I see no reason to give him a pass here without some form of remorse for his asshatery. So no need to ask for him anymore, he's a big boy, welcome to the yard, this isn't a playground anymore.
Apologize or war. The terms are simple.
Run your trap all you want. But I have learned on LU that , You have to pay the cost to be the boss.
Stuart, for you of cousre, as reasonable as you can be despite our differences, I will of course end all hostilities against Keith should he apologize and learn how how and when to speak without consequence. I see no reason to give him a pass here without some form of remorse for his asshatery. So no need to ask for him anymore, he's a big boy, welcome to the yard, this isn't a playground anymore.
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 02:16Link
Wendy - Keith didn't ask me to speak to you, I did it out of the kindness of my heart.
I know we have peace now, but just like you don't like me in your backyard - I don't really want you on Lynx Minor.
Bakronesia - Leave NULO then maybe you can have a voice. Otherwise, you will be classed as the same as its leader King Hezekiah - A terrorist.
Peace and profits to you all.
I know we have peace now, but just like you don't like me in your backyard - I don't really want you on Lynx Minor.
Bakronesia - Leave NULO then maybe you can have a voice. Otherwise, you will be classed as the same as its leader King Hezekiah - A terrorist.
Peace and profits to you all.
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 02:41Link
Stuart while I pose no threat to CIS or you in particular, i respect your concerns but reserve the rights to set up on all continents. Especially in this case. You didn't ask me not . Lynx Minor, you asked me to lay off keith in particular.
Now let me say this, how anyone but myself feels is going to make a difference in his case, he apologizes or gets help understanding cause and effect and how he should be a bit more modest unless he wants a problem.
As a blanket statement about NULO
I will admit King like myself I feel is just misunderstood. I admit he has even done a few things that have vexed me. But to blanket censor any members of his fed is unacceptable, in fact I encourage all players to come and speak their minds at will without of course attacking anyone with those words. But freedom is a liberty in rl that is lacking here. At first I was disgusted by kings whole theories about a conspiracy and elite group running
Now let me say this, how anyone but myself feels is going to make a difference in his case, he apologizes or gets help understanding cause and effect and how he should be a bit more modest unless he wants a problem.
As a blanket statement about NULO
I will admit King like myself I feel is just misunderstood. I admit he has even done a few things that have vexed me. But to blanket censor any members of his fed is unacceptable, in fact I encourage all players to come and speak their minds at will without of course attacking anyone with those words. But freedom is a liberty in rl that is lacking here. At first I was disgusted by kings whole theories about a conspiracy and elite group running
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Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 19:18Link
Keith this is a perfect example of the UC scumbags infesting our fair planet. They are now importing scumbags in order to gangbang each of you individually.
They feel they have the numbers to try and repeat GR here.
You cannot "win" by fighting this sort of scum. Wendy will tie you up in endless C3 wars and you cannot hit her where it counts. She can hit your economy and great countries while you can only hit her junk. It will take a concerted effort by all LU citizens to drive them off our world.
All LU presidents can either line up and kiss their ass now or suffer the consequences.
They feel they have the numbers to try and repeat GR here.
You cannot "win" by fighting this sort of scum. Wendy will tie you up in endless C3 wars and you cannot hit her where it counts. She can hit your economy and great countries while you can only hit her junk. It will take a concerted effort by all LU citizens to drive them off our world.
All LU presidents can either line up and kiss their ass now or suffer the consequences.
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 19:45Link
I didn't see any blanket decs by any members of UC upon keith. Just lil old wendy. Now I didn't fire a shot at keith but he did fire though I gave him an out. He refused to apologize, and thats one thing. But he even attacked whilst I waited for him to be diplomatic. Now he will suffer his fate, and shouldn't be crying to anyone when it happens.
Keith there will be no gangbang, only a one on one with you and me. The UC is not active on LU and poses no threat to you. Technically, despite the propaganda Sam and his cronies continually pump to the masses, I am no longer a member of The UC, though we share common interests, and reserve my right to return to membership should it come about. UC has no issue with keith and make no mistake, this isn't their kind of war. Its mine.
Keith there will be no gangbang, only a one on one with you and me. The UC is not active on LU and poses no threat to you. Technically, despite the propaganda Sam and his cronies continually pump to the masses, I am no longer a member of The UC, though we share common interests, and reserve my right to return to membership should it come about. UC has no issue with keith and make no mistake, this isn't their kind of war. Its mine.
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Nov 2008 23:05Link
Wendy, you are in no position to bloviate. I told you straight up that I was going to shell the country, to purge its declaration against me, and nothing more.
I told you that after the in-game declaration was dealt with, that you could then back out and have white peace. Your demand that I apologize is inconsistent with this, though I do note with interest that you have not replaced the fallen war dec with another puppet nation of yours.
Whenever you get criticized for your bloviating, you rant about free speech this, and that. Yet you condemn freedom of speech for others, and declare war over the tiniest of excuses.
"All LU presidents can either line up and kiss their ass now or suffer the consequences."--true that, Wendy's attitude exactly.
"I didn't see any blanket decs by any members of UC upon keith. Just lil old wendy. Now I didn't fire a shot at keith but he did fire though I gave him an
I told you that after the in-game declaration was dealt with, that you could then back out and have white peace. Your demand that I apologize is inconsistent with this, though I do note with interest that you have not replaced the fallen war dec with another puppet nation of yours.
Whenever you get criticized for your bloviating, you rant about free speech this, and that. Yet you condemn freedom of speech for others, and declare war over the tiniest of excuses.
"All LU presidents can either line up and kiss their ass now or suffer the consequences."--true that, Wendy's attitude exactly.
"I didn't see any blanket decs by any members of UC upon keith. Just lil old wendy. Now I didn't fire a shot at keith but he did fire though I gave him an
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Wendy
All worlds
29 Nov 2008 00:58Link
Yes indeed Keith i didn't fire a shot, and i haven't given you another token dec because the next one will be a "real" one, and something for you to cry Boycott for, cause trust you me, I will do considerable damage.
You had a chance to walk away . . . you chose to run through the door. Now it has slammed shut and there will be no return. I think i have proven my case, you indeed wanted a conflict, now quit begging for others to be named in this conflict. It will just be you and me.
The High Profitess has Spoken!!!
<===for you
You had a chance to walk away . . . you chose to run through the door. Now it has slammed shut and there will be no return. I think i have proven my case, you indeed wanted a conflict, now quit begging for others to be named in this conflict. It will just be you and me.
The High Profitess has Spoken!!!
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General Dirt (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
29 Nov 2008 01:03Link
Hey Sam,
Your constant UC scumbags comments have gotten quite old. Wendy isn't UC. She fights like a UC member, but not UC. Your constant bashing of my Fed has earned you a c3 war you won't be able to win. I tried to stay out, but you just wouldn't leave it be. You even came to my homeplanet and started. I guess the only way for us to stop you is to stop you. We have you surrounded now and the mass buildup has begun. I promise all of the interested spectactors that this war won't be anti-climatic like the LDI vs. GR war. This will be a steam-rollin.
General Dirt
Your constant UC scumbags comments have gotten quite old. Wendy isn't UC. She fights like a UC member, but not UC. Your constant bashing of my Fed has earned you a c3 war you won't be able to win. I tried to stay out, but you just wouldn't leave it be. You even came to my homeplanet and started. I guess the only way for us to stop you is to stop you. We have you surrounded now and the mass buildup has begun. I promise all of the interested spectactors that this war won't be anti-climatic like the LDI vs. GR war. This will be a steam-rollin.
General Dirt
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Wendy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
29 Nov 2008 01:12Link
wo0t!!! You Can't Stop The Bots, we're the best in the GALAXY!! GO UC, Death to LDI