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Peace between the UC and LDI

Topics: Little Upsilon: Peace between the UC and LDI

Caretaker

Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 11:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Hello there. Firstly, i request on behalf of respect for the game that only involved people post in this topic - members of the UC and LDI on LU. Verbal attacks and snide comments should also be left outside.

It is apparent from all aspects that the conflict between the UC and LDI on LU has gone on far too long. Many of the flame wars on this forum can be seen to stem from it, and in game collateral damage continues to grow.

War is an aspect of the game, but it appears to be becoming a pathological obsession between the players involved. Thus i propose we consider a meeting in IRC or on MSN, to discuss the terms of a peace treaty. This Topic could be used a preliminary bed for discussion on the matter.

The time seems perfect- Sam and others have expressed their boredom with the ongoing conflict and Dirt appears to be leaving. It is in LU's best interests that the war end. I, on behalf of Valde Subsidium, would be happy to mediate this discussion, naturally another can be chosen if desired however.

I am not posting this out of ego as i will most likely be accused of, i write it just as a resident of Little Upsilon who thinks this is the desire of the overwhelming majority of others.

Stuart Taylor Chairman of CIS:
"I fully support the actions of Valde Subsidium in this case, and will also endevour to ease LU into a state of peace. My services as a mediator run alongside Dubs, and if either party wants to talk, you can find me on MSN. You all have my address. Thankyou."

I think either leader of both federations should post first, although taking the first step is always hard. Perhaps a guideline would help:

Peace Treaty

#Reasonable demand 1
#Adequate concession 1
#Reason 1

#Reasonable demand 2
#Adequate concession 2
#Reason 2

etc etc...

Thanks, Dubhthaigh.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 11:45 pm Click here to edit this post
IRC live chat sucks and the forum will be only an open invitation for bad negotiations and further argument.

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 12:01 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy, can you please refrain from posting in here - it will only entice other uninvolved people to reply.

General Dirt

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post
Thank you Dub! Its about time someone with a cool head steps up and makes a reasonable offer.

Yes, I'm about gone for awhile (Jan 6) but I'll say my piece here and promise to keep it clean out of respect for the thread starters wishes.

We all know the details with my involvment. My only request to the LDI, which has been the same all along, is for each of the LDI members that bush-whacked me in the begining, to sell me 1 country of equal value to the ones they destroyed ant took from me. WildEyes has already offered to sell me 2. I want 1 from Barney and Jason. Sam wasn't a part of the original assault so I won't hold him accountable. Each country was worth appx. 500 gc.

I am only speaking on my own behalf and not for my fedmates demands. I am indeed on retirement mode and may or not come back into active play. 1 thing is certain tho, if I do come back as active I will have a clear cut mission if my demands are not met, even if its a year from now.

Thanks for posting this Dub
Thanks for your ear,
Respectivly,
General Dirt

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 12:32 am Click here to edit this post
A most reasonable demand Dirt.

Were these taken countries on LU?

If so, it would only be fair if you offered the same recompense to the LDI players.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
I have been speaking to LDI members on MSN. They are awaiting a response from all members of their federation before making a decision on anything.

In the meantime, I would like to suggest a cease fire on both GR and LU, while terms are drawn up.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:03 am Click here to edit this post
agreed

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post
LDI have agreed to carry out no further attacks whilst the cease fire exists. They have stated that they will return fire if any is received though. Diz, Dirt, Nute; I ask you all to observe this temporary cease fire for a period of no less than 72 hours from 0000hrs GMT.

Thankyou.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
NO Cease fire until there is an agreement . Thats just me, and dub i will post on whatever thread i wish, as I am a party involved.
So I respectfully decline your request.

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:23 am Click here to edit this post
You are not involved. You are not UC on Little Upsilon. I want to keep this topic clean of uninvolved parties so we can get something productive out of it.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:26 am Click here to edit this post
Dubby, there is NOOOO UC on LU the charter prohibits it. And yes i am involved until soemone from UC tells me or asks me to leave I am in the UC and have been for quite some time.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
Point blank YOU are not involved and i'll telkl you like doo boy Quaxocal, I am not subject to anything i myself do not agree to. Im with my freinds on this but you can shove the crap you are on about up your bum dubby. Get it together, Cordial and politely disrespecting are two different things.

Barney Rubble

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:54 am Click here to edit this post
\Ignore her.

All do the same and she holds no sway over discussions.

Im always open to talking.

Dirt, I like you, always have, but there are VERY few countries worth 500 GC in this game at this point. I never gave you a country in the past dirt due to the fact that dizzy was preping for war and nute was continually declaring on me for months. i simply could not give up my income in time of war.

Aug 16 2353(LU Time)

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:22 am Click here to edit this post
it was funny that i only came on the thread to agree with a peace deal which is funny at the least. Sorry but someone has told me in mot in the UC or seems to think so. So as is, i will continue bombardment of ANY LDI nations out of wp indefinitely. This policy does not affect any peace deal agrered upon by UC members, as the public seems to know more than I that I am in fact NOT IN THE UC. Any agreements made by UC ceasefire i will adhere to as my countries hold membership in three distinct branches. Until i am asked to leave I will act as a UC member on GR but LU is open game. **** you all espeacially dubtauhg whatever ya name is.

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:34 am Click here to edit this post
LDI's terms are as follows.

1.We do not acknowledge any status other than Cease Fire. First Wendy is not involved in this process and any participation by her is unacceptable to our members.

2.Second Nute will derreg any countries adjacent to LDI countries. Ss long as no new declarations are made LDI will derreg countries on CD. He has already been compensated and no such demands will be entertained.

3.Third any such future moves or war decs will be seen as a violation and be met by force

4.Fourth LDI does not acknowledge any financial demands as the combatants have had excess time to recoup any such losses in the extended period of time that has passed. Dirt collected numerous inactives and sold his LU holdings to enemies. As such we reject any such demands.

5. Fifth since Dizzy has continually escalated this conflict into financial areas as a hostile bidder he will leave LU as it is the business world. Without his departure this Cease Fire has zero chance of success.

6.Sixth LDI will compensate any President or CEO impacted by fallout other than combatants irregardless of who preticipated such an event. As is our standard policy.

7.Seventh. JohnL may remain if he so chooses we will deal with him as needed.

8. Eighth. Non involved UC members are not affected by these terms. We will deal with them as fairly as possible on an individual basis.

First we wish to offer our thanks to Dub and Stuart for volunteering their time to broker peace. Thanks.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:55 am Click here to edit this post
If there was a world government, you all would not have this problem..

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 04:00 am Click here to edit this post
I am the World Government. Bow to me and leave this topic you have nothing to do with! lol

Did i mention your beard is cute?
Turns me right on reeeeeeeowwwww

General Dirt

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:19 am Click here to edit this post
@Barney

"Dirt, I like you, always have, but there are VERY few countries worth 500 GC in this game at this point. I never gave you a country in the past dirt due to the fact that dizzy was preping for war and nute was continually declaring on me for months. i simply could not give up my income in time of war. "

You know man, if you woulda sent me a letter WEEKS ago like that things woulda never gotten as far outta hand between you and I, the rest of the LDI as they have. A lack of communication has led Sam and I down a path of verbal butchery that we will never recover from. As far as I knew I had been duped and lied to. GRRRR.

And my countries were worth $50 or so dollars each. All had 50T in military and were turning between 150B and 250B monthly. All I want is a country that compairable to that. 1 from you and 1 from Jason and we are square.

As far as repairations to the LDI..haha
I didn't do enough damage to them to hafta make 1. c3s were the main battlegrounds, minus poor Slock. I guess I did cost him a lil $$. hehe

Anyways, I'm glad peace is being hashed out.

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:33 am Click here to edit this post
I have made it clear from the start of this conflict. No terms. No cease fire. No Quarter. LDI had decided to declare on me in the start of the conflict. So I have told them that war it will be till time has no meaning. I do not have any terms except the ones presented by General U. S. Grant. Unconditional surrender. I am not going to be deregging any countries. I will continue to commit to a war effort against LDI. I think if they had wanted peace then they should have never declared on me. If they had wanted something done about the problem they had with Wendy then they should have tried sending a text message through the message system rather than provoking me with a war declaration. I vote no to peace between myself and LDI. NO PEACE FOR LDI!!! As far as the United Confederation goes the different presidents have their own choices to make.
Also Wendy may post on any forum topic she likes to. She may also deem it necessary to continue her war on LDI. The LDI should have known better then to provoke her. Finally, it would have been so much easier for all parties if they had messaged the UNITED CONFEDERATION about their hurt feelings because she was active in the IRC chat and whatever other concerns they may have had.

In addition, thank you Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon for your concern in this matter. I can attest to the fact that some things can be worked out trough text messages. You proved that when you sent a text message to me with a certain request. I would have like to stayed in the peaceful mode but LDI has provoked me to war. So war it shall be till time has no meaning.

Arise, Arise Warriors of THE BLUE TEAM!
Fell deads awake: fire, bombs and slaughter!
Missiles shall be launched!
Bombs shall be dropped!
A nuclear day, a red day ere the sun rises!
Fight now! Fight now!
Fight against the LDI!

Nute Gunray the Viceroy

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:36 am Click here to edit this post
Barney you are lying I let your countries sneak back into war protection when I showed some compassion to your plight during the California wild fires. Your buddy Sam did sell me a country and said he was following your orders. It was at this same time LDI promised to sell Mr. Dirtrocker a country but renigged on the promise.
as for item 3 I will continue to break it. Here is my response to your cease fire.
You commanded a Nuclear Attack on Abandoned Missile Base.
You dropped a Hydrogen bomb.
The target is completely destroyed. NUCLEAR WAR DISASTER FOR LDI ground or air force placed a nuclear attack on Dont even think about it capital. On the side of Abandoned Missile Base there were 8881 casualties and 18390 civilians were wounded. Dont even think about it is very severely damaged. Abandoned Missile Base forces used 2 nuclear defense missiles in the defense. On the NUCLEAR WAR DISASTER FOR LDI side no losses were reported. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. Abandoned Missile Base defense was assisted by the Garrison TG7 unit.

This is my response Jason Sam Barney. LDI will have no peace from me. NO NO NO PEACE FOR LDI!!!
Nute Gunray the Viceroy

ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:40 am Click here to edit this post
Nute is BACK!!

The Viceroy has Spoken!!!

Death to LDI

The High Profitess concurs

Death to LDI

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 06:56 am Click here to edit this post
Hey Nute. The problem with continuing to fight is that the war will never be over. Neither side will ever surrender and both sides will fight a C3 war which will continue indefinitley. I think that this has gone on long enough, and innocent presidents are being hurt by nuclear fallout, and are fearsome that they will get invaded by one side or the other as they could be seen as being in a strategic location.

It dosn't matter what has happenend in the past, who started, who fought, or who fired the most nukes. What matters now is peace. Peace which will last, and bring calm and well being back to LU.

Dub and I are trying to stop this before it gets out of hand, LDI have agreed to a cease fire, and will work towards permanant treaty. I just hope that you and your fellow fedmates can do the same.

The bottom line is; If these peace talks dont work, this will go on forever.

Thankyou.

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 07:14 am Click here to edit this post
Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon I am glad to see that you and Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon are concerned that this war is out of hand. However, I have made it clear from the start of this conflict. No terms. No cease fire. No Quarter. LDI had decided to declare on me in the start of the conflict. So I have told them that war it will be till time has no meaning. I do not have any terms except the ones presented by General U. S. Grant. LDI's unconditional surrender. I am not going to be deregging any countries. I will continue to commit to a war effort against LDI. I think if they had wanted peace then they should have never declared on me. If they had wanted something done about the problem they had with Wendy then they should have tried sending a text message through the message system rather than provoking me with a war declaration. I vote no to peace between myself and LDI. NO PEACE FOR LDI!!!
In addition I do not aggree with the demands from LDI about me deregging countries. The way I see they gave me an open invatation to move in next door to their countires when the begin this war. I will fight them on all fronts. As far as fallout goes it is true some of my nukes caused 3 of my friends fallout. finally as far as this war getting out of hand well that happened when LDI declared against me. I know that Mr. Dizzy tried to talk them out of it but they were determined to go forth with a war. I am not sure who else tried to talk them out of the war but i know of several players who egged them on in the irc chat room. So now it is way to late for peace talks. I do not back down nor will I give into their itimadation and unreasonable demands.
So war is my plan till there is no more LDI.
No peace for LDI
Nute Gunray the Viceroy

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 07:20 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the reply Nute.

The thing is, this affects 2 worlds, several continents, countless federations who all get fallout, and even more presidents who are worried that they may get declared on just because of where their country is located.

Whilst I understand your point of view, as I do LDI's, this cannot carry on forever. A solution needs to be found. Neither side is willing to surrender, so thats out of the window, but perhaps we can work towards a lasting cease fire at the very least.

Peace has been acheived in worse situations than this before, such as LDI Vs. Valde on LU and UC vs. AF on GR, so why cant it be done now?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 08:20 am Click here to edit this post
Stu, I think that was english spoken. There is no need to speak to a wall. The decision has been made, and i have to agree with Nute, MOAR WAR!!!!!!!

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:17 pm Click here to edit this post
I see Sam is on the run. Good job at stripping your little war pony. LDI this is what is in store for you. I Nute Gunray will begin to conquer all your countries. One by one they will fall. Begininning with this one.
You have won the war against Abandoned Missile Base. After the attack, the president of Abandoned Missile Base is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by NUCLEAR WAR DISASTER FOR LDI has been nominated. Moran is very severely damaged. On the Abandoned Missile Base side no weapon losses were reported. NUCLEAR WAR DISASTER FOR LDI forces lost 1 cruise missile ship. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. NUCLEAR WAR DISASTER FOR LDI lost 21 soldiers and 81 were wounded.


Jason your Firebase 1 LA is next. You are going down. Then it will be Barney's prized war horse -- Compton.

You better make your face up,
In your favorite disguise,
With your button-down lips,
And your roller blind eyes.
With your empty smile,
And your hungry heart,
Feel the bile rising,
From your guilty past.
With your nerves in tatters,
As the cockleshell shatters,
And the hammers batter,
Down your door,
You better run.

You better run all day,
And run all night.
And keep your dirty feelings deep inside.
And if youre taking your girlfriend out tonight,
You better park the car well out of sight.
cause if they catch you in the back seat,
Trying to pick her locks,
Theyre gonna send you back to mother,
In a cardboard box.
You better run!

Arise, Arise Warriors of THE BLUE TEAM!
Fell deads awake: fire, bombs and slaughter!
Missiles shall be launched!
Bombs shall be dropped!
A nuclear day, a red day ere the sun rises!
Fight now! Fight now!
Fight against the LDI!

Nute Gunray the Viceroy

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:31 pm Click here to edit this post
OK. You cant say I didn't try.

John L (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks you very much LDI for allowing me to stay. How many centuries are you prepared to deal with me for?

My occupation and participation on LU will continue to be at my discretion, Not dictated by any foreign power, treaties or federations.

Respectfully,
John L
Chairman of the Map Dominion Empire

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 08:51 pm Click here to edit this post
You get no apology from me for stating facts.

You are a traitor to AF. Period. End of discussion. You sold out. Dont like it? Should not have done it.

If I called you something of which I had no knowledge perhaps I could be wrong. In which case I would be happy to apologize.

Example: JohnL you are a purple elephant.

I am sorry I called you a purple elephant. You are human.

Traitor: Fact
Purple Elephant: Theory

Notice the difference?

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Strangers from distant lands, friends of old... We have been summoned here to answer the threat of LDI. Little Upsilon stands upon the brink of destruction. None can escape it. You will unite, or you will fall. Each president is bound this fate, this one doom. You have only one choice. LDI must be destroyed. LDI's rampant outrages will be stopped. LDI will no longer be the despots of the Continent Lacerta on Little Upsilon. LDI wanted to lay claim to this Continent Lacerta, and try to make all others do their bidding. No more!

I did not have any problem with LDI until LDI decided to declare on me due to my association with someone they were mad at - namely Wendy. The fact that they wanted to declare on me, caused me to decide that they would pay and pay dearly. Deep is the abyss that the LDI has dragged me into. Yet it has a bottom, beyond light and knowledge. Thither we will come to that bottom at last. Then will the fire of LDI be quenched. We will fight far into the future to the point that time will hardly be counted. Ever LDI will battle me and ever I will respond in kind -- war for war. I will send countless C3s to their death. I will hew and stab at them till they all flee away to some other world. From the lowest dungeon to the tallest towers will I pursue LDI. When the sun shines fiecly upon the wings of my bomber, and all below on Little Upsilon is wrapped in smoke from the fires of war I will throw down my enemy with a huge crash. LDI will fall from their high place of self exaltation when I have smote them into ruin.

Arise, Arise Warriors of THE BLUE TEAM!
Fell deads awake: fire, bombs and slaughter!
Missiles shall be launched!
Bombs shall be dropped!
A nuclear day, a red day ere the sun rises!
Fight now! Fight now!
Fight against the LDI!

Nute Gunray the Viceroy

ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Kill . . .Kill . . . Kill . . .

General Dirt

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:41 pm Click here to edit this post
"You are a traitor to AF. Period. End of discussion. You sold out. Dont like it? Should not have done it."

No he isn't a traitor. if anyone is a traitor to John it is Ameche. The AF used to have good quaities that made it worth fighting for. Ameche hijacked the ideology and started spreading hate and fear from his post. JohnL called him on it and ultimatly started fighting with him over it, called for his removal. If anything John Is a hero for standing up for the AF of old and what he believes in.
As long as you are an enemy of JohnL you will be an enemy of mine Sam. Him and I don't have much in common and don't see eye to eye very often, but he has shown what his colors are, his loyalty..true grit, and I will always defend that!

Capone (Kebir Blue)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:43 pm Click here to edit this post
ROFL purple elephant

jason

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:59 pm Click here to edit this post
All nute is doing is making a fool out of himself.

grow up get a job and a life.

General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 10:02 pm Click here to edit this post
"grow up get a job and a life."

He has both. What do you have?

jason (Kebir Blue)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 10:23 pm Click here to edit this post
LMFAO, Well where should I start. I am a combat veteran, 35 years old, I hold a Bachelor's in Computer Science, I am a Project Manager in one of the largest I.T. firms in the world.
I have a very nice large house, Happily married 9 years, cars, pets, and a lot of time. what do you have?

General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 10:34 pm Click here to edit this post
"I have a very nice large house, Happily married 9 years, cars, pets, and a lot of time. what do you have?"

You didn't list 'big dick' so I know your being honest.

ONLY a BA? Get back into school and do something with yourself, you seem smart enough.

Don't tell me your a Ford fan? Pet? I picture you with a Chinchilla, no?

Caretaker (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 10:46 pm Click here to edit this post
I did request this thread stay clear of insults, especially RL ones.

General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry Dub,

The post above wasn't meant to be insulting, but rather, a light-hearted humorous poke.

Sorry Jason.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Burn down a house intentionally = arsonist
Kill someone not in defense of your life = murderer
Betray an organization or country = traitor

Its not a gray area. Its not subject to interpretation. You cannot "splain" it away. Its fact.

If you don't like the title don't do the job.

So putting the game aside for a moment.

I am not apologizing for pointing out the obvious. You could not beat that out of me with a club so in a game setting he has zero chance.

Same as "teaching me a lesson". If you people think there is anything you can do to me in this game that will change my beliefs, honor system, attitudes, or personality in the slightest. You are fucking crazy.

Now that said back to the game. Pardon my vulgarity.

The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)

Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:44 pm Click here to edit this post
In the eyes of the betrayed, the person is a traitor.

In the eyes of everyone else, he is a hero.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
Funny you would pipe up.

Zypher= hero to all

JohnL= hero to all

Odd so many heros.

The Wise One (White Giant)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:33 am Click here to edit this post
Keep telling yourself Bin Laden is a hero shithead.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:51 am Click here to edit this post
Oh dubby how art thou ailing to save that which want not be saved. I hail your efforts, howeveer self centered its intentions are, and beg of thee SAVE US!!!

SAVE US !!!

Had you not intervened on our behalfs there would be none of any flesh left on LU.

Save US!!!

Though the war rages on there is none worth saving, save you? What will come of LU?

Save US!!!

The economy will not grow stagnant. The markets will not fail. If we build a world of intrigue and joyous prosperity , many will flee the dullness of other worlds and flock unto this one.

SAVE US!!!

All hail the False Messiah, though he put forth a valiant effort he has failed yet again. Thoguh hes ego be yet bruised but a little it feeleth unto him as a lot. We wub you buddy. (Group Hugs} This goes out to my wittle . . . dubby . . . wubby.


BTW good job, STU nice try but some things are the way they are. And thats the Bottom line cause Stone Cold Wendy says so. I know you tried hard to bring this to an end and I hope one day LDI will fall and you can finally see peace in the middle east. 2 Point for CIS

The High Profitess has Spoken.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:04 am Click here to edit this post
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaall on your knees, O hear the angel voices!
O night divine, O night when Dub was born!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

Led by the light of faith serenely beaming,
With glowing hearts by His cradle we stand.
So led by light of a star sweetly gleaming,
Here came the wise men from Orient land.
The King of kings lay thus in lowly manger,
In all our trials born to be our friend!

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaall on your knees, O hear the angel voices!
O night divine, O night when Dub was born!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

Truly He taught us to love one another;
His law is love and His Gospel is peace.
Chains shall He break for the slave is our brother
And in His Name all oppression shall cease.
Sweet hymns of joy in grateful chorus raise we,
Let all within us praise His holy Name!

Faaaaaaaaaall on your knees, O hear the angel voices!
O night divine, O night when Dub was born!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

SAVE US!!!!!!
SAVE US NOW!!!!!!

John L (Golden Rainbow)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:05 am Click here to edit this post
Sam,

How about Patrick Henry and the multitude of American Patriots? Were they traitors?

It all depends in which camp you sit whether a person is a traitor or a patriot. Traitors fail in their efforts patriots succeed and write the history. Did Ameche not leave AF? I with the help of faithful co-conspirators succeeded in ridding AF of the scourge brought upon it by Ameche (Slim)(Capone).

I am proud you consider me a traitor. It shows that your allegiance in the AF/UC war was to Ameche and not to the oldest, respectable federation on GR (Allied Forces).

As Chairman, Ameche disrespected other powers on GR and underestimated their determination to live in peace. Ameche forgot the greatest strength Allied Forces it's members and forged into wars ill prepared relying on third world powers to come to his rescue. When LDI come to Ameche's and Ameche went into WP letting LDI do the rest of the fighting and the peace negotiations.
Part of the original negotiations was for Ameche to leave AF, At first I was against any treaty that singled out any one player for punitive action.

By your very association with Ameche, you soil your previously distinguised record.

So Sam, Justify calling me any name you chose. You are not important to me and never will be. How many wars will it take for you to realize that John L is not afraid of you or any of your allies?

OH! One more question Sam. Who spend practically all of his time with the WP shield up? Not John L.

Capone

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:22 am Click here to edit this post
LMAO

John you are THE biggest shithead in this game. You conspired with people OUTSIDE the federation for your own gains. There is no doubt about that.

Secondly, YOU were the one that called for someone else to handle the negotiations. You're a tool. And funny enough, Yankee was right about you. Nothing but a fucking backstabber who only considers his OWN welfare. Fair enough.

You lie through your teeth. I guess you're with the right bunch now for those activities. Liars house liars. And one look at the UC forums tell the whole story.

Caretaker

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
What is wrong with you Wendy? Honestly.

Capone

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:59 am Click here to edit this post
She did the inevitable and lost it. I knew it wouldn't be long.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 03:00 am Click here to edit this post
Faaaaaaaaaall on your knees, O hear the angel voices!
O night divine, O night when Dub was born!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

Nuthin dubby are you ok, this was just humour, hope you aren't all sour. No pun intended.

Barney Rubble (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:29 am Click here to edit this post
I grow weary of kicking your ass nute. It no longer holds any allure. Same as wendy.

People see what you two are really like, true morons. I love this thread actually. thx dub.

Lied? LOL. Im not sure I ever lied to any one in this game. well perhaps once or twice in the old govt fed days but not with you surly lot. You guys realize that the initial assault by us is consider a small war by SC standards. Stop with all the drama.

Dirt, sometimes real life steps in the way and I get somewhat neglectful of this game. For instance, I don't even recall saying "give nute one of my countries"...lol. Ive been rather distracted in RL. But, these countries are simply 1's and 0's. They mean nothing and have no worth. Nute likely got a country far greater then any he lost.

you people bore me at this point. You may fire at will dear sirs...

John R

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:31 am Click here to edit this post
So arses DID have some allure to you, did they? That's some interesting confession there, Barney. ;)

Capone

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:38 am Click here to edit this post
LMAO

John L (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:57 am Click here to edit this post
Capone,
Here is your Christmas present from me. Do try to improve your vocabulary in the coming new year.

http://dictionary.reference.com/

Capone (Kebir Blue)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:05 am Click here to edit this post
John, here, my present to you.

https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwDocs&SN_METHOD=gamedoc

Do try to improve as a player. Because after all, you suck worse than LH.

If I wanted advice from you, I would squeeze your over inflated head for it. :)

Dick.

Barney Rubble

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:31 am Click here to edit this post
Laguna, if dub were to pull off some type of peace deal with these retards(I include myself in that lot) I think It would be simply the greatest achievement ever made in SC.

Of course arses hold allure...assuming they are of the female type:)

The Wise One (White Giant)

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:32 am Click here to edit this post
WOW. I always wondered where those damn docs were. Thx

General Dirt

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 07:38 am Click here to edit this post
"John you are THE biggest shithead in this game. "

Now Deffy you KNOW thats a damn lie, cuz I am!
Quit giving away my title!

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 12:34 pm Click here to edit this post
As a favor for Mr. Kevin Henry I will post my thoughts concerning the current conflict.
First, I will say that the whole idea of LDI declaring on me and some of my friends due our friend ship with Wendy was the cause for this current conflict. Second, I am prepared to continue the conflict forever. Third, I am truly grateful that Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon and Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon are wanting to see a peaceful resolution, you are indeed attempting an honorable endeavor. However, LDI made a big mistake in declaring on me. Now they have issued a set of terms that I must reject in whole. I do not acknowledge that LDI has any control over me. I will play this game of make believe in the manner and fashion I desire. I shall be friends with whom ever I want to. I will be enemies with all who declare against me. I believe that Wendy may be involved in this process if she so desires and in the manner that she decides suites her needs. I do not hold her accountable for LDI's Hostile actions toward me. LDI decided to have a war with me, so they should be held accountable, by myself and perhaps by the whole Simcountry community. So if they wish to blame the whole conflict on Wendy then Wendy has already won because she has gained control of LDI's emotions. I will not derreg any countries. I will not agree to any ceasefire until I decide to. Dizzy may stay on LU and LDI will stay out of his business.
So Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon, Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon, and Mr. Kevin Henry as far as I am concerned LDI has submitted a set of very unreasonable terms.
Now I have considered these 2 following items that may help ease the tension, and possibly create a basis for talks of peace.

1. LDI will make public apologies to myself and the various parties that LDI has attempted to control through the use of war, threats, and hostile banter. The list should include Wendy, Dirtrocker, Dizzy and John L. and any others who want to post here with their grievances.

2 LDI will start to refrain from bullying people around ie leave people alone and let us play this make believe game the way we see fit.

When they declared on me I was just having a bit of fun raiding on a few C3s and experimenting with the airdrops. In my honest opinion I was not any kind of a threat to them nor had I given them any kind of threats. In fact one LDI member had requested me to sell him some shares of a company he owned from the investment funds of one of my raids I helped him out by doing so as soon as I could.
Thus in my honest opinion the very fact that they decided to declare a war against me is an act of bullying. I will not back down from bullies, it is not about weather I win or lose but that I have always and will always stand up to bullies and fight back.
So a word to the wise if you decide to declare on me then there will be a long and costly battle. the fighting will get so out of hand that others will say this war is hell we had better step in and try to get peace again.

Nute Gunray

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 02:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Peace requires surrender.

Do so and we will be happy to discuss peace terms.

This is only a for a cessation of hostilities.

You portray yourself as the innocent party when in fact you have declared war on people who did not attack you. As such your position is false and your demands are rejected.

Returning peace to LU is simple. Stop shooting. Take steps to seperate warring factions to avoid a return to said conflict.

LDI will be happy to cooperate in a ceasefire as we have shown on two occasions so far. We will be happy to discuss terms to lessen tensions after a cease fire is arranged.

But we will not bow to suit you or your Fed. You have lost. The only thing that has saved each you from a total defeat on more than one occasion is a secured main. As such you have no ground to stand on to make such demands. The only suitable outcome for LU to have a peaceful future is to assure no possible way to have this construed as a UC victory.

The Wise One (White Giant)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 03:25 pm Click here to edit this post
The only thing that will save this game from the trolls that have taken it over is to remove secured mode. That will get rid of the garbage.

Speaking of garbage,

What's the difference between a girl from New Jersey (We know who) and garbage?

At least when garbage sits on the curb long enough it gets taken out.

ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 04:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Look who is trolling now.

Your argument is nullified by your own st00pidity Steele/Veritas/owl whoever you are today.

Are you still mad over that one lil country that I took months ago? I mean that must be what it is because here you are trolling along and i haven't so much as said a word to or about you in over a month maybe two.

If you seem bent on provoking me, I can find another of your countries if you have any left to declare on. At least you won't say I am trolling.

Now onto Mr. BiulerBurga

"Peace requires surrender.

Do so and we will be happy to discuss peace terms."

How many times does one have to say there will be NO surrender?

"LDI will be happy to cooperate in a ceasefire as we have shown on two occasions so far. We will be happy to discuss terms to lessen tensions after a cease fire is arranged."

This is BS! You only wish for a ceasefire to regroup and rearm your stockpiles. You have been crafty at claiming to have peace talks with myself before this even began all the while preparing for an assault on members of UC from GR. You did this with skill and precision. Good for you, but you won't get the chance to use any "talks" as a shield for your movements.


I think Nute made more than reasonable requests, apologiez to and from everyone and we move on. What could be so hard about that? Only your Head I presume.

I Repeat, there will be no peace, no surrender. There will be wars and destruction as a result. LDI, you weighed the calculations and consequences of such a war before you ever fired. You should have hired a better strategist because you gambled and lost. We are not Pushovers, we are not losers, you wanted war and it is what you will get, and thats the bottom line. There is no way around it.

To the peacemakers, I have spoken to the head, and the consensus is that we are not ready for peace, at least not yet. I for one will fight until there is none left to fight, Nute has stated the same. You peacemakers need to reach out to the proper authorities on our side and then and only then will you have any chance at making a peace deal. I have been told to tell you all, We are not subject to any forcing of a peace deal by anyone but ourselves. The sovereignty of the UC and its members is paramount. We WILL NOT be forced into any peace deal. Peace will come when and if the Leaders of our federation decide so and not a moment sooner.

To UC members, do not allow the enemy to sew seeds of division among you. Classic divide and conquer tactics are at work here. I have been approached by a few third parties as to why we or myself will not accept peace. They will continue to do so in an effort to divide us and turn us against one another. We must stand firm in our resolve. The enemy is weakened! If not the Sam-spam would be ever present with threats of "warm ups" and "I am prepared to fight another year". We know third parties do not care about peace, we have not affected them, we have not attacked them. They have nothing to fear from us or this war. It is their associations with this Regime LDI that has precipitated the push for peace.

I think members in the fight do wish to continue. Scratch that I know they do. This is the final word. There will be No peace until we get back what was rightfully stolen from us. And even if we can't. We will make the fruits of their labor as poison to their bodies. They have coveted what was not theirs, and they will suffer the consequences of not fully thinking of the outcome.

The High Profitess has Spoken!!! :)

Kill . . . Kill . . . Kill....

The Wise One (White Giant)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post
Wow. I had no idea she was from New Jersey.

What exit do you live at?

ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 04:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah he's mad.

Are you gonna cry now?

/me *hands out tissues*

you poor baby

Kevin Henry (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post

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I have been approached by a few third parties as to why we or myself will not accept peace. They will continue to do so in an effort to divide us and turn us against one another.




I assume I am one of the reference "third parties". I can assure you my intention was not to turn anyone against each other. It was simply to understand where the individual players are coming from.

I am going to limit my part in this on the forum, since everything deteriorates quickly here. I would prefer to continue conversations on IRC or MSN.

Also, I want to thank Nute for following through with listing some conditions. Obviously, conditions from both sides can and will have to be negotiated. Lets continue live talks.

Sincerely,
Kevin

ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Well Kevin you could be assumed to be one of the parties, but the comment was not directed at you.

I am a good judge of character, and i don't think you are one of the dividers. While you seemed interested in my concerns, your comrade Dub has been quite disrespectful and almost successful at attempting to divide the interest of all parties involve. And i think it would be advised that he be removed as a party to negotiate as he is not involved materially, but emotionally so, and has conflict of interest issues seeing as he is openly impartial to LDI in his motives and manner of presentation. I would fully entertain a peace deal, when I am directed to do so. But, I have been told openly and quite frankly that many of our leaders are not in favor of peace though some may want some. This is the reference I was making as far as dividing was concerned. These parties that are open to peace will continually be approached and worked on til peaceful initiatives are brought to bear, and then resulting in differences of opinion internally with our side of the issue. This discussion should take place internally amongst the individual sides and then determine if each is ready to come to the table. Then and only then can we hope to get somewhere. Individual parties to the issues at hand cannot make decisions for the whole. the two sides have to be willing to negotiate before negotiations can occur

Caretaker

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 07:15 pm Click here to edit this post
I have no dividing intentions. I am sure i do not have the resource or means do such a thing even if i intended to.

My intentions, in cohesion with all others involved, is to bring about a peaceful end to this fruitless war.

Your above post is a clear example of why you will not be included in negotiations; in a previous post you swore there would be no terms, yet you magically change your tone in order to try and discredit me? Your word is worth nothing, your gameplay fickle and aimed to divide.

Kevin Henry (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:08 pm Click here to edit this post
All involved parties,

Let me make it crystal clear where I stand. I support reasonable negotiations. I do not support a cease fire without agreed upon conditions for a lasting peace in place.

In addition, I would like to terminate my involvement with this process. I thank both sides for talking on MSN, even if it was only to humor me :).

I hope negotiations between the two sides continue at their own pace.

Sincerely,
Kevin

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Greetings Mr. Kevin Henry, I hope that you had a Merry Christmas, and I want to wish you a very happy and prosperous new year. I am glad I got to met you last night and I will leave the channel open for further discussions. In 2008 I have saw many changes in people's lives both in game and in the real world. I am glad for the many success stories that I have heard and read about. I am also saddened somewhat as some of the real life success stories has caused several of players to leave the game or to spend less time playing. I do applaud these players who are wise enough to know that real life needs to have the biggest priority. I want you to know that I am greatful that you would want to try to bring a peaceful solution to the current conflict. Perhaps at some point we be able to form bonds friendship that transcend this game. I am truely sorry that you got dragged into the messed up situation of the conflict between LDI and myself. Perhaps your efforts will not prove to be in vane, and their will yet be a lasting peace between LDI and myself. Good gaming to you and I wish for you have the best year ever in 2009!!!
Nute Gunray

The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:38 pm Click here to edit this post
This war seems to be the Mid East all over again :(

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:52 pm Click here to edit this post
"Your above post is a clear example of why you will not be included in negotiations; in a previous post you swore there would be no terms, yet you magically change your tone in order to try and discredit me? Your word is worth nothing, your gameplay fickle and aimed to divide."


I do stand by my statement that there will be no terms, no peace, no surrender, no retreat.

There is nothing in my post to contradict that statement, LDI wishes for us to surrender, which will not EVER happen, this I assure you.

Peace or a treaty to that effect, is a whole different matter altogether. It assumes that both sides agree to end all hostilities for whatever reasons and that neither side has won nor lost. End of story. Any changes in my statements will reflect what the senior members of the establishment want, and that WAS reflected in the above post. You only pretend to mediate a peace agreement fairly , but your intent is to taunt me with the assumption that I may or may not be in the UC and this is only because your poor little man ego is bruised. I have not time for petty squabbles anymore, you prove to want to engage me in such rivalries only to be crushed like the peon you are and then cry to Laguna for ban spam when you can't take the heat that you have invited into your kitchen from the start of this thread. My first response was in good faith without being antagonistic or offensive, but your rebuttal and every one since has been an open gesture of negative intent. I appeared on this thread only because according to yourself, Ameche, and LDI proper, "this is all my fault," and "the nukes are falling all over LU because of me." Not to have an ego battle with you or anyone. It is easy for someone to say that I am not involved yet openly admit I am involved in every way, which in fact IS a contradiction.

Dub to be frank, you need to grow up, stop pretending to be an adult and all proper like you are narco-grande and quit having an ego trip on me cause you wont ever win little one. You will be reduced to realizing your only avenue of relief will be to cry to LG to ban me as you have been doing. You are the one continually inviting conflict with words with me in particular. Only to cry for the pettiest of JOKES (not even insults) like "OMG LG, she called me p00pTaigH, she called me Broke_Messiah, and thats not funny cause i really am broke, I thought personal attacks were not allowed on a forum. Can't we fabricate something to ban her for. PLEASEEEE. Shes having her filthy way with me on the forums, what will everyone think. Uggghhh I can't stand her."

Grow UP and stop poking. And everything is gonna be alrite.

KumBaYa my Dub KumBaYa my Dub KumBaYa!!!
OOOO Dub KumBaYa.

Faaaaaaaaaall on your knees, O hear the angel voices!
O night divine, O night when Dub was born!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

SAVE US!!!!
SAVE US NOW!!!!!

General Dirt (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 11:57 pm Click here to edit this post
" But we will not bow to suit you or your Fed. You have lost. The only thing that has saved each you from a total defeat on more than one occasion is a secured main. As such you have no ground to stand on to make such demands. The only suitable outcome for LU to have a peaceful future is to assure no possible way to have this construed as a UC victory"

Hey Sam,

The LDI's actions on the battlefield and letters posted-public and private- are deplorable. The community sees this and you guys have lost alot of respect. You guys are bullies and liars(Sam only).
Eventually the greater LU will stand-up against this crap and shut you down. The creation of this thread is proof that LU is getting sick of the war, and is just the first of many steps by LU to make it stop.

Call the war as it stands, no winners and no losers. Yes, the LDI took more assetts. Ok, it was said again for egos sake. I stand by my demand of 1 sound country from Jason and Barney, the attackers in the pre-emption. After that? Doves. If not, you'll have 1 helluva time saving gc or keeping your corps running.

GM is the true winner in this conflict. How many gc did he make? =)

Dirt

jason (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:03 am Click here to edit this post
ok turd ball for the last time wild and barney took your sawg. If you have something constructive to add fine if not stfu!

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:10 am Click here to edit this post
Nute

If you wish to agree we have all taken this too far I am game.

If you wish to apologize for the hostile actions you have taken on GR against AF, Ameche and your actions on LU I will happily do the same. If you wish to avoid that I will not be held to a double standard.

If you wish to end this futile war I am game.

I will not bow.

I will not surrender.

I will not speak to Wendy. Nor is she part of any negotiations.

Peace will not come with waiting for you to rearm for the next round. Peace comes when you move away. I do not trust you. I do not like you. Nor will I be your neighbor.

If you wish to reside elsewhere in peace do so. You send me war decs not the other way around. If you wish to remain my neighbor it will only be for war. You have no other reason to do so.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:17 am Click here to edit this post
OK then it is agreed . .. LDI won't meet any demands or take any concessions and neither will we.

I call for a vote. The measure is war on peace!

All in favor say aye!

Me: Aye
Myself: Aye
Irene: Aye
Wendy: Aye
ShcyzMattiCa: Aye
The High Profitess: AYE!!!

Then it is agreed and decreed . . .

The Ayes have it!

MOAR WAR UPON PEACE!!!!!!!!!

The High Profitess has Spoken :)

The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:30 am Click here to edit this post
Sam,
The Great war is over and the wounds are healing. Ameche was the catalyst for Great War. Their will be no apologies. Dirt has sold countries to DW and Dac and business between the two feds is growing steadily.

No one can claim that the war wasn't good for the Stagnet GR economy and social network. I.E. about a year ago I hit my highest ranking (at the time) of 20th. My score was only 1270. Now, a score of 1270 would only have me ranked in the low hundreds. Think of it like Dead heading a rose bush. Clip off the old and dieing heads to promote new growth.

By now you should know that for sum reason, a fed was formed (the UC) by a group of stubborn and tanacious, hard headed individuals. I wouldn't fight the UC.

Now Sam, I have given and will continue to give insight on this subject. I have, however, stayed out of the Fray due to RL constraints. You then decide that my comment, about your feds exploiting a loop hole, was worth a war dec. Now, you should know better than to tempt fate. I could just open up my schedule a bit. Your choice.

my suggestion. Leave GR. Those who owe Dirt countries, sell them to him.

General Dirt

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:45 am Click here to edit this post
" ok turd ball for the last time wild and barney took your sawg. If you have something constructive to add fine if not stfu!"


Did you not dec on me in that preemption? Guilty as charged. I don't care if in the end you didn't have the ammo to acttually take a country, but you most certainly took part. I lost 4 countries. Barney will sell me 1. You will sell me 1. If not, hellz bellz. I promise that you'll spend more gc hiding in wp that you would to just sell me a country. As a business man I advise you to take the deal.

Sam,
"If you wish to apologize for the hostile actions you have taken on GR against AF, Ameche and your actions on LU I will happily do the same. If you wish to avoid that I will not be held to a double standard. "

That war was none of your business. AF and UC had many tensions that didn't involve LDI whatsoever. YOU injected yourselves and got pwnded for it.
The main cause for the war was Ameche and it will be a cold day in hell when anyone says sorry to that tool.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 02:26 am Click here to edit this post
At least Sam finally admits that Wendy was not the real reasons for your heinous crimes.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

1. LDI will make public apologies to myself and the various parties that LDI has attempted to control through the use of war, threats, and hostile banter. The list should include Wendy, Dirtrocker, Dizzy and John L. and any others who want to post here with their grievances.

2 LDI will start to refrain from bullying people around ie leave people alone and let us play this make believe





sorry for the damages, I hope you are big enough to apologize for your deeds too, and you want this to end peacefully now.

ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 06:25 am Click here to edit this post
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009!!!!

John L (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 06:36 am Click here to edit this post
Happy New Year!!

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, January 4, 2009 - 09:33 pm Click here to edit this post
Greetings all of the noble sim people.

Just a quick note to say I just cannot be bothered with all these details right at the moment. I am just too busy!! My entertainment is of highest priority!! Since you fine sim people decided that the cease fire is all important to you, and no longer want me to have so much fun that I was ROFLMBO by nuking LDI. Therefore I have opted to hit the slopes. Yes it is ski season and I need a great out door activity to while away the hours. All messages and concerns can be forwarded to me at Big Mountain in Montana. You are all invited to join me for some excellent ski conditions. But If I see any LDI members I will throw snowballs at you. You can click on this link to see how the ski conditions are.



ski conditions





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There is still a situation to be resolved involving Nute's two war slaves next to Sam on Little Upsilon. Due to time restraints this will be resolved ASAP to cement this agreement. However, the ceasefire is still in effect and all terms hold true despite this momentary setback.






Sorry Mr. Caretaker. ASAP for me might be a while but I will not fire any more nukes at them LDI cats. I am sure you and Mr. Stuart can understand. As you Mr. Caretaker did not have the time to set an apointment with me to discuss the situation. Additionally Mr. Stuart carelessly failed to keep a set apointment with me to discuss the situation nor did he seem to have time to reschedule. So without further words I must bid you all farewell as the slopes are calling and I just cannot be bothered with all this fuss. Like my dear aunt Bea used to say much ado over nothing.


Mr. Nute Gunray the Viceroy
Chairman of THE BLUE TEAM on Little Upsilon

Chairman of United Confederation on Golden Rainbow

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, January 4, 2009 - 09:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Nute, I did go online and waited for you to arrive. I was having issues with my internet for a few days though, as im sure others can tell you I kept on having to restart my puter due to connection issues, so that may be why I didnt see you.

Still, LDI have kept to there side of the agreement now I ask that you do the same. I do apologise for not speaking to you on MSN, but as you can see from the above - its not my fault. You are free to speak to Vodafone though who at the time were supplying my 3G broadband. It is now normal land based so this problem should not reoccur.

As I say, please accept my apologies and as I have asked; please revert to the agreed peace treaty.

Thankyou dude.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 03:58 am Click here to edit this post
The countries in question are still in place.

Please follow the terms and dump these countries.

Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 05:13 am Click here to edit this post
Greetings to all the fine sim country presidents and CEOs. I have been having a blast with the ski trip.
However, I was truly missing this world of make believe. So now it is back to business.

So first things first. I wish to extend a great big note of thanks to both Ms. Wendy ShcyzMattiCa of Little Upsilon, and Mr. Crossdale of Little Upsilon for offering rebuttals to the outrageous demands of the unscrupulous, and psychotic Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon a.k.a Mr. Sam Houston a.k.a Quetzalcoatl God of War. For your bold defense for my rights I am truly grateful.

Next I must address the fact that upon my return to the office my Administrative Assistant, Ms. Cindy Blue has reported to me that neither Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon a.k.a Caretaker, nor Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon has attempted to contact me concerning setting up a meeting to try to work out some kind of of a peace agreement. Perhaps all of Ms. Wendy's and Mr. Crossdale's rebuttals finally made you realize the error in Mr. Houston's line of logic. I am more inclined to believe that you feel that your time is perhaps more valuable then mine. Additionally, I am inclined to believe that you think that my thoughts on the state of this conflict do not matter. Whatever the case may be I suppose I do not really care what your excuses may be. I will state for the record that I do not believe you were ever willing to listen to my side of this whole grizzly and cruel war between myself and LDI. Nor were you prepared to be faithful, and neutral mediators, but that your real agenda was to try to force upon myself and my federations your own ideas of how the conflict should be solved.

This leads me to my next topic. I have consulted with both my accountant and my lawyer concerning the ramifications of your proposed peace agreement.

Mr. Jim Wiess, my accountant, advised me that I should not give up any of my countries. He stated that he believed that the amount of entertainment derived from the countries that I own provided the greatest return of all of my entertainment investments. He also stated that W3 Creative had indeed made a mmog that is a worthwhile investment. He further stated that just because some nosy third party tries to impose their will on me does not mean that I have to go along with their belligerence. Finally, he went on to state that the very fact that Mr. Houston was so angered over the fact that I was not dumping any of my countries was well worth the 30 gold coin per month rent that simcountry charges.

Mr. David Greer my lawyer offered several worthwhile insights as well. First he asserted that Mr. Caretaker's proposed peace agreement was not a binding agreement for me since I had not agreed to it in either a written or a verbal format. Additionally, this agreement is not binding for the United Confederation Federation as our charter has very specific language concerning all such international agreements:


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Article II, Section 3, Agreements:
No agreement is considered official unless both a majority of members of The United Confederation have approved of it and the agreement is in writing. Until an agreement has become official it will only be considered binding with the member that proposed the agreement and the other player, federation or common market. No agreement made should sacrifice any member of The United Confederation who has not violated this Charter.





Mr. Greer also stated that since the 2 countries of mine that are in question were never involved in the war with LDI, and that their worth is much more than that of a C3 that they should in no wise be considered as "war C3s." Conversely there are 2 of Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon countries that were involved in the war and are about equal in worth to a C3. So I will assert that if anyone should be dumping any countries it is that Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon should dispose of his 2 war C3s: Shooter One and Shooter Two.

I will however make no such outrageous demand of Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon. I believe that he should have the same freedom that I am seeking, to run his empire however he sees fit. This is something that I had tried to impress on Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon. I will not give in to anyone's desire to impose his or her will on me and on the way that I run my empire. You Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon said you did not want to allow this to occur either, but what about this statement from you.


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Hey All. I have been approached by a member of LDI who states that certain opposing countries are still in place in violation of the peace treaty.

I am informed that all LDI members have withdrawn to an agreed distance, and would appreciate it if opposing forces could do the same.

There are also countries which retain there 'war name', and if these could be changed, it would ensure peace for a slightly unstable LU.

Thankyou.





You Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon are even trying to dup everyone into thinking that there is a peace treaty, when at the very most what we have is a cease fire agreement. There is a big difference.

Finally I ask for you to consider this Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon you made the following statement in another thread that is exactly opposite to what I perceive you have tried to formulate in this thread.


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Ah. Thanks for the quote Sam. Anyway, I take it that you are the agressor here Wendy? As a neutral bystander, surely that if an innocent country is attacked, they have the right to either defend themselves or offer peace on their terms? The agressor in any situation should not be able to dictate peace terms, but should wait and see what is offered or agreed to, unless they have been continuously proveked. Have you been continiously provoked Wendy?



It is my belief that since LDI was the aggressor I should have the right to defend myself against LDI. Furthermore that LDI should not be dictating any terms towards me or towards any of the presidents in my confederations. So perhaps you Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon should start minding your own business and remain a "neutral bystander." Because the following statement is how I am now prone to perceive you.





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The purpose of every belligerent is to impose his will on his opponent. Trying to induce others to abide by one's wishes is a common human aim, applicable to individuals and groups as well as nations. The only distinction between ordinary human disputes and war is that war is an act of violence in which one side exerts force against the other side. If a side could attain its purpose without force it, of course, would do so, since no nation will attack unless there is resistance. For this reason the nineteenth-century Prussian theorist Carl von Clausewitz defined war as the continuation of national policy by other means.




So MY final answer is I will keep what is mine and I shall not entertain further discussion to any opposing demands.!!!


Final thoughts.
The more I have had to deal with the LDI and various others that are wanting to post in these forums in opposition to Ms. Wendy ShcyzMattiCa of Little Upsilon, the more I realize that she sees a valuable truth.
I would like to shout that truth out to all of simcountry "Belligerents beware!! You may think you are so powerful but in reality it is just a game, and I do not care just how powerful you might think you are. If you want to confront me with an unprovoked war I am going to hurt you. As was noted in another thread my army got stronger but LDI's army shrunk.
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In closing my real life boss is overjoyed that I unleashed such a tumultuous assault of nuclear disasters against LDI, and continued to encourage me to "Nuke em some more, nuke em again for me!!!" Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon lay down your King! Now!



Mr. Nute Gunray the Viceroy

Chairman of THE BLUE TEAM on Little Upsilon

Chairman of United Confederation on Golden Rainbow

Johanas Bilderburg

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 08:33 am Click here to edit this post

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Crossdale (Little Upsilon)
Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 08:16 am Click here to edit this post Anyone that joins LDI will be destroyed. LDI is full of liars, backstabbers, soothsayers and filth. The name Lacerta Defense Initiative is no longer legendary and has been covered in filth. Consider this me being courteous to any noobs getting ideas to join this federation on LU. Yes i will lead by example and be the first to stop anyone from making any mistakes in this game. Joining LDI would be your biggest mistake and would not look good to any true vets if they find out your affiliated with LDI.




Might as well have this out in public. And the peace thread is as good a place as any. Whats your beef Dizzy. Spit it out. I am sick to death of all the whispering and backroom dealings going on. Say your piece. I am listening as is everyone else.

Crossdale (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 08:42 am Click here to edit this post
You think switching threads or running to others is going to change the situation? Actually you just made it worse.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:34 pm Click here to edit this post
What exactly are you talking about? I made a thread. UC members spammed it. I thought my response was a polite as possible in such a situation.

You are not making any sense whatsoever.

Johanas Bilderburg

Monday, February 2, 2009 - 04:13 pm Click here to edit this post
I have an idea Dizzy. You should go back to GR where people care about your extremely random threats of simviolence.

As for me I can only offer you this apology...


/me holds up both middle fingers.

two fingers=peace sign right?

Crossdale

Monday, February 2, 2009 - 05:05 pm Click here to edit this post
:)

GameMiser

Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 08:49 am Click here to edit this post
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Johanas Bilderberg

Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 02:00 pm Click here to edit this post
This is a random and unpleasant thread to necro.


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