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Great Burkhalter Loyal is a coward (Little Upsilon)

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King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:21 am Click here to edit this post
This nation has declared war on both of my slave states and have not even given me a chance to make them competitive in any war, How is that fair? How is that any real war. I paid 100 gold coins for one of them, and I went in debt to go to war with an unoccuppied nation to get that nation. Now I am under attack by Ok State Guy for no reason, with no diplomacy. That makes the NLUO more relevant, and more of a reason we need it with situations like this, I have not come on here for a while.. Now this happens... He wants power, and we need to put an end to rogue nations like this...

KIng Hezekiha E- United Israelite Empire

E O (Golden Rainbow)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:25 am Click here to edit this post
king hezy, you rejected okstate's terms for peace, and pretty much laughed in his face. He has no reason not to attack you. What does he care that you paid 100 gold coins for another 6 million population c3 country? Have you noticed that you are the only one who has this problem? Maybe there's a reason for this...

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:29 am Click here to edit this post
I too am saddened by this recent development. EO is not a coward, you should try communicating with him King to resolve whatever dispute is pushing him towards this course of action.

EO King is in my fed. I feel this can be worked out somehow diplomatically, and not drawn out on the forums. I wouldn't mind speaking to you about this. I feel in an akward position here as we are friends and so is the SNA with myself. I have some kind of akward feeling seeing as King is in my fed, he is trying to change adn whatnot. I am not sure if I can just let him go down in smoking glory if you know what I mean. I hope we can work something out. Please let me know either way.

Thx
Wendy

E O (Golden Rainbow)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:35 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy I have not attacked Hezy -

King Hezy has broken the terms laid out by OkState for peace between those two. Therefore, Okstate has retaliated until those terms are met. They were very basic terms that included not completely spamming the forum. The matter was ignited by King Hezekiah using "yes masa" etc. and I think angered OkState. Hezy brought this on himself, and if you wish to avoid conflict, you should ask Hezy comply with the very simple and easy terms laid out by OkState.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:36 am Click here to edit this post
I mean no harm to Ok State Guy, and I did not laugh at his terms, but most of his terms included me not being able to post on the forums for a period of time.. How can anyone try to control someone.. I don;t understand how anyone can try to control. I rather be governed of diplomatically be put in my place. I would give more respect in that aspect.. All Ok state guy is doing is making me set up a policy to stop his nation from becoming an empire. Let me say this.. I HAVE NEVER ATTACKED ANYONE......

Let me say it again.. I HAVE NEVER ATTACKED ANYONE

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:38 am Click here to edit this post
As an uninvolved party, may I inquire as to what the terms of this Peace was/were?

With Regards,
Dragoon

E O (Golden Rainbow)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:38 am Click here to edit this post
King thats because you failed at conquering a c3

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:39 am Click here to edit this post
OK STATE GUY, GIVE ME A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF.. LETS AGREE ON A TIME TO FIGHT, AND I WILL DESTROY YOU.. YOU FIGHT UBNFAIR WHICH MAKES ME BELIEVE YOU ARE A PUNK... Is your nation full of sissies?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:44 am Click here to edit this post
Without wishing to get involved in this conflict I feel that I must point out that OKstate did post terms a while back which were ignored by King.

I have been monitoring this dispute, and did offer to assist with mediation a good few days ago now. This was also ignored by King Hezzy.

I have sent several messages to Kings main also trying to end this dispute. Each was ignored.

What i'm trying to say is that I have tried to offer my help. King didn't take me up on the offer, and has ignored all terms like he did with me when I was fighting him. He eventually agreed to do as I asked when he surrendered on behalf of his fedmates.

Sadly, ignorance is not bliss.

I would also like to point out that I knew nothing of the decs beforehand. I just knew that King had not responded, at least publically. Just before I get brought into this, I will point out that I am NOT involved.

Thanks.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:44 am Click here to edit this post
OMG?!?!?!

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:45 am Click here to edit this post
Stu Stay out of it, Don't be GHAY!!!

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:53 am Click here to edit this post
Why? Because I speak with the voice of reason? Because I speak the truth?

I offered to help Wendy. That is all.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:54 am Click here to edit this post
I SAID DON'T BE GHAY!!!!

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:55 am Click here to edit this post
Wow. Great use of the English language there Wendy :)

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:56 am Click here to edit this post
EVEN MORE GHAY!!!!!

Tattooed Priest (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:57 am Click here to edit this post
Okstate and E O are high ranking members in Seven Nation Army and I must honor their decisions to an extent.
I value and respect them both. As a Seven Nation Army member one retains his/her Sovereignity over anything else and therefore cannot be commanded to take one course of action over another.
However, I want to give my opinion that I regret that King Hezekiah is under attack. I feel that he deserves the right to exist and to build an empire.
Again though, as a loyal and steadfast member that Okstate_Guy is I will refrain from intervening in Okstates wars and affairs.
We as a large and great organization will not always agree solidly on the same terms. One must remember that Seven Nation Army operates as a close confederacy and not as a true federation or a dictatorship.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:59 am Click here to edit this post
First of all EO, I was teaching some new nations how to war.. I was letting them see a war in action, not try to take over the nation, If you would have seen my recent war, you would seen me take a c3 with ease.. I did buy one nation for 100 GC, and now Ok State Guy is attacking them, and they are new. I have not had any time to build a military to defend them. That is not fair,..

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:00 am Click here to edit this post
King, Life is not fair by any means. You shot your mouth off peace was offered you did not respond to it.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
Tattooedpriest, you have the power to stop your ally.. He is unjust warring with me, and you know it.. Please reason with him.. How is you power worth anything if you have no infuence?

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:04 am Click here to edit this post
I responded, and agreed, but it was the fact of my post which upset him. If he was a true great power, he would have direguarded my comments, and tried to work peace.. I did accept..

That makes him a war monger, and LU is tired of it...

E O (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:04 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah, why did you buy a c3 for 100 gold coins. I have been offering countries of 30 million for 100 gold coins. On another note, I am merely pointing out OkState's reasoning, and am not myself involved in this war. I would just like to see both of you learn to play nicely, and am asking you Hezy to issue some sort of response to the fact that you disrespected OkState and his terms.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:06 am Click here to edit this post
I did not disprect him. He put up his terms, and I accepted, and then he proceeded to say, I need to not post on the forum so much, and I need to do this, and do that.. I am not someone's lap dog.. I paid to play here...

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:10 am Click here to edit this post
All of you know in your hearts that this is wrong.. I implore the Security Council to set up a resolution against this, but I know that the Security Council means nothing in a george of the Jungle environment.. That just makes the NLUO needed more.. Everything we said we set up the NLUO for, Ok State Guy is displaying the characteristics that we were afraid of, and created the governement for..

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:10 am Click here to edit this post
I am totally in agreement with TP here. I understand the issue from bith sides and in a very complex position here. Let me remind everyone that these attacks, while justified by the attacker to an extent, is exactly how I got started on the course that has led us ultimately to today. Will we learn from history, or will we stumble into folly with quick feet. Patience, understanding, and feet not quick to anger will almost always give heed to a better solution than wars and destruction.

I have reached out to both sides, I have asked King to speak directly to EO or OK, without the antagonists, and i have asked OK in PM to attempt to sort this out another way. I am not anyones master here. But like my situation has proven, this could get out of hand. And look at the cluster**** of a mess it has become. King seems willing, but I know he is not ready. But his post struck with so much similarity to the first time I was attacked by LDI, it really brought me back to the summertime. things were soo different then. But here we are now.

Kum Ba YA my Dub
Kum Ba Ya my Dub
Kum Ba Ya

OOOooooo Dub
Kum Ba Ya!!!

Dubhthaigh (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:11 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

I know that the Security Council means nothing in a george of the Jungle environment..




That's the most wanton reference i've ever come across. lol

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
Wow I was right on TIME with that.

Called it! LMAO :)

Dub is sooo predictable

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
you rang?... shit wrong account

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:15 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah, I built a 500-offensive-index navy from nothing in two real days when I found I needed one. So you probably DID have time to defend that nation properly while it was still under the temp WP for newly acquired slaves; you just did not utilize it.

Then again, I have the economy to support that kind of mobilization. I have learned the economic side of the game to build such an economy. You have not. Those 100 GC you spent to buy a C3 that could be conquered for about 5% of that cost in ammo, would have been much better spent increasing your population and encouraging private investment from CEOs with all this added pop--CEO corps generate MUCH more income for you than state corps. I am not sure, but I *believe* CEO corps are also exempt from boycotts--which will help insulate your economy from those boycotts you like to whine so much about.

Then again, with your constant instability on the forums, there probably would not be very many CEOs interested in building in UIE anyway.

When you have a good, well-established economy in your main, which I will add CANNOT be attacked militarily by any other player, THEN is the time to worry about building a military and an empire...

I am not trying to be an ass here (even though you have called me a terrorist, lol); I am simply pointing out steps that you can take to persuade other players to take you more seriously. Until you have established yourself with a good economy in the game, you appear as someone who doesn't know how the game works.

Your proposed NLUO would break the game mechanics, and neuter the sovereignty of other players.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post
LoooooL guud one Frosty

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:17 am Click here to edit this post
Ok State Guy, I am willing. Are you? Yopu have not come out in discussion or diplomacy. Would you ahve the community make their own divises to your none communication?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:17 am Click here to edit this post
Your proposed NLUO would break the game mechanics, and neuter the sovereignty of other players.

WRONG . . . I AM GOING TO DO THIS, and I will begin with CIS, but only because spam incites me to do so.

Dubhthaigh (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:19 am Click here to edit this post
Watch out for that tree, King!

The sooner you overcome your ingrained jealousy, Wendy, the easier it will be for you to be friendly to me.

L3athalSerph (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:19 am Click here to edit this post
lmfao jack.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:20 am Click here to edit this post
Avg Price of 100 GC's : 60T

Cost of munitions to take a C3: 500B

Difference in cost: 59.5T

Wasted GC's: Priceless

Sorry just felt the need to show the overpayment that was presented instead of taking the c3 by force. At a max it should cost 3T to take a C3.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:22 am Click here to edit this post
Where is Ok State Guy? So, this is the LU justice? This is the nature of the beast of LU. Hang or be hanged, huh? All nations band together to bring in the NLUO World Government to establish equality, peace, security, and prosperity..

Dubhthaigh

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:29 am Click here to edit this post
Blasphemy!

keto

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:31 am Click here to edit this post
King, since you've started, you have been preaching an al qaida type recruitment. You come in here promising to take over the world. That is a big part of why many people on SC don't listen to you. Instead you copy everyone elses ideas for federations and world dominationation, to lure in unsuspecting noobs. Like Keith said, concentrate on building a strong economy then the military might follow. Don't try to take over the world, because you won't.

As far as the attack by OK, you have had plenty of time to build up a defense or an offense to counter his attack.

Stop your ranting, concentrate on your main country, learn how to play the game, then build your empire from there.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:44 am Click here to edit this post
You know nothing Keto of this situation.. You help war start with your wild accuations.. I have not been recruiting for world domination, but for world peace. If I wanted to try to dominate anything, would I try to dominate all of the worlds on Simcountry instead of just LU. LU is where I live, and I and my nation and allies want peace on LU to grow this world with full members nations, and have this world be the center of simcountry... The NLUO does not promote war, or nation building. We promote peace, security, a democracy of nations, and prosperity without bias... This is the NLUO World Government.. Not your wild accusations.

The truth is, the more people hate the idea, the more people will accept it.

keto (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:53 am Click here to edit this post
King, I've been playing for a very long time, and I know everything of this situation. You need to re-read everything you have posted in the past and you will see your recruitment tactics. You can't dominate by yourself in a short time, so you try to recruite as many as you can, so you can use their resources to overpower all of SC.

If none of this was true, you wouldn't talk like you have in the forums.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:55 am Click here to edit this post
You can ask any of the memebers of the NLUO, and they will tell you if they feel dominated or not.. I am not a dominating force. I am democratic force in a world of jungle law...

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:56 am Click here to edit this post
I am not the Chairman of our Party in the NLUO, just to let you knoe Keto.. Everything is based on a majority, just in case you didn't know Keto..

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:58 am Click here to edit this post
We need some accountablity for war..

NO WAR!!! NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 10:22 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

The NLUO does not promote war, or nation building




LMAO and you want us to take you seriously... and by the way you have been throwing out accusations against people that are throwing valid accusations towards you.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 10:25 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

NO WAR!!! NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!




You are at war, You are being held accountable.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Aleksander (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 12:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Any multi/player who runs at the mouth, picks fights, lies about players in the feds, etc., etc., etc., has either got to always stay in war protection or build the most incredible kickass army in existence.

It is just ridiculous to pick a fight for 3 months and then claim that you had no time to defend yourself. Ridiculous.

You intentionally irritate this community with your spam and inflammatory remarks and then expect this community to bring pressure on a respected member to get you out of the trouble you got yourself into. Preposterous.

BorderC (Fearless Blue)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 03:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Here we go again....

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 03:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Tell me about it BC.

I need a new nick. . . again.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 08:56 pm Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

You should learn how to communicate with me. You rejected my terms, threatened to nuke me, and claimed to be building an empire to destroy me. Obviously that is not the way to peace.

Until the war declarations become active, I will offer the previous terms that you rejected with a racial slur. If you wait, or continue to rant - game over.


PEACE TERMS:

1.) You must remove all stolen material from your Web sites.
2.) You must never again attempt to hijack the name, ideas or reputation of another federation.
3.) You must remove the names of ANY president who does not wish to be listed on your Web sites.
4.) You must stop spamming the forum.
5.) You must treat all presidents with respect and apologize to those you have offended.
6.) You must never again insult the real world religious or personal beliefs of other players


I know that you previously accomplished a few of these terms. I have thanked you for that in the past. Now it is time that you fully accept these terms and follow through with the rest. If not, stop the whining and man up.

Remember, you have been playing this game for a much longer period of time than I have. You should consider that time a head start. If you aren't prepared now, then when exactly will you be? Will you keep running your mouth in the mean time? Insulting and belittling good, decent people?

I consider sectarian, racial, homophobic or sexist slurs/insults as a violation of the above terms. I am simply asking that you stop insulting people, directly or otherwise, and play nice with the SimCountry community.

A month ago you directly insulted my real world religion and belief system. I don't want to see this happen again to myself or others. I respect whatever it is that you believe. I would fight in many ways to protect your real world ability to believe, but I ask that you respect the beliefs of others - whatever that might be.

I am willing to give you a chance here to change, but you must learn to be respectful. I'm not speaking about myself here, I'm talking about the general community. If you insult someone, in the disgusting and perverted ways you have in the past, they will find me as a friend ready to fight.

I never asked you to stop posting to the forum, just to stop spamming. I did give you friendly advise, which I still stand by today. It might be best to take a short break and come back fresh.

I encourage everyone to post and give their feedback. We are a community and everyone should have the ability to voice their concerns, but not to the point that they drown out everyone else. Not to the point that their over posting extinguishes the rights of others to have a voice.

Once again. You have been playing here longer than I have. In this war you are the Vet.

New members should ask themselves what approach has worked best. You came to this world and insulted many of its finest presidents and organizations. Yet you are unable to protect yourself, or maintain a stable economy. You threaten global military conquest and have proposed an unpopular global government. At its head - you of course. Someone who can't manger their own affairs and who hasn't proven anything.

I instead have reached out to veteran players. I have learned how to play the game. I have made friends and treated others with respect. There is a lesson here to be learned.

You should know the only reason I am giving you this chance is because of my respect for Wendy.


@Wendy,

Thank you for the several gracious and respectful messages. I do not wish to trouble you, or place you in an awkward position. Your response to this crisis has been even handed and appreciated. Thank You.


@Everyone,

I would like to thank the LU community for their support. Recently, while dealing with King, I have tried to keep my comments to a minimum. I was happy to read the many well thought comments above. I would like to apologize to all of you for the momentary spike in world drama.

Many of you know me, some more than others, I am a peaceful player and do not wish to engage in active war with other presidents, or take from those who are weaker than I am. But, in this event, I felt as though I had no choice but to act. I feel justified in my choices, and I appreciate the support I have been given.

I am sorry to have troubled you all with this, but I do appreciate all of the comments above. Thank you.


@King,

Please take a moment and consider your options.

If you accept these terms I expect you to post a gracious and complete apology to myself AND the LU community. I will allow the community to judge your sincerity. My hope is that you would take this as an opportunity to reintroduce yourself to Little Upsilon - to start over again with the community!

If these terms are not fulfilled I will resume military action. I will not accept sarcasm. I am taking this very seriously and I expect a serious response.


Best Regards to King, Wendy and the entire LU community,

Okstate Guy
President
The Empire of Great Burckhalter

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
You should take this opportunity King, I hope this is acceptable to you. OK, EO, and TP thx for your understanding and knowing that I fully consider you guys friends and NEVER wish to be on opposite sided of the ball. Best Wishes

Wendy.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 12:28 am Click here to edit this post
I have not heard from King Hezekiah.

I am going to begin painting. If you wish to accept my terms, now is the time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsrkFNodBGQ


King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 01:30 am Click here to edit this post
Well, I agree to your terms Ok state Guy....

I apologize to the community if I offended anyone. Although I meant everything I have said in the past, and have proof to back it up.. Most of you have taken sound bites of the threads over the months to come up with your conclusions. For the sake of peace, and how hard STaurt Taylor, and even you Ok State Guy is willing to sit down at the negotiating table. Just to let you know.. The way you worded your previous demands make me think you were trying to control me.. I just want all of you to know that I never fired a shot, but I was willing to stand up for what I believe in, even if it meant war. I have learned some things, and want to reintegrate into the World Community... I will be a more responsible nation in the future when it comes to foreign policy, and my tone in my words. Just as I have taken offense to how nations word things, as you all have taken offense to the way I word things.. I never insulted anyone's religion directly. I just have a problem with a religion that claims to follow the Bible, but truely does not follow it's teachings. Notice I didn't say anything about Islam.. They have their own Bible.. They don't claim to follow the Bible like these other religions. But, I will refrain from giving out that info because it seems to offend people. Know this though.. A person gets offended when they don't fully know a situation.. For example, If you know that 1+1=2. Are you going to yell and argue with that person if they tell you that it equals 3? No, you know it equals 2, and they can think what they want... Just food for thought... Anyways, in conclusion, I will do my best to follow the terms presented, and be a better neighbor of the World Community...

Thank you,

Sincerely,
King Hezekiah E-United Israelite Empire

"It's the King that they love to hate"

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 01:37 am Click here to edit this post
A word of advice King. There are 2 subjects that you should never talk about if you want to stay peaceful both here and in RL. They are politics and religion. That is why the NLUO site can be classed as being rather offensive in parts. People can be passionate about these things, and it can sometimes be hard to respect each others thoughts.

Right, back to business;

@King; As agreed in our IGM's, I visited the NLUO site once again. There are still presidents names on there that are nothing to do with NLUO. Such as Grayson and Bakronesia who are now both members of SNA, and Arkh who is also an SNA member. TP posted something a while ago stating that SNA had nothing to do with either NLUO or your fed, so I beleive that this too would need updating as per the terms you have just agreed to. There is also still links to SNA media on there, so I beleive you will need to check this too. I could name more presidents who you have listed on there, but i'm sure you know who they are as well as we all do.

@OKstate; King has agreed to your terms. Therefore I request that you immediatley cease any hostilities. If the agreed terms outlined are not adheared to by Hezzy, no one would blame you if you were to continue you attack. But for the moment at least - I think its over.

I suggest King is offered an opportunity to rejoin the international community here on LU. King, unless you do as per the terms you have agreed to, I will never be around to try and help again. OKstate, I suggest you give Hezzy 72 RL hours to comply with the terms. That is time enough.

And while your at it King, please remove the fleet you have stationened at my main please. That was part of a peace treaty you agreed with me about 1 RL month ago and you have yet to comply.

Over to you OKstate.....

Thanks.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 01:44 am Click here to edit this post
I must point out that here in SimCountry following SC logic 1+1=1.87


I think he may be sincere in his words, may his actions follow suit.

With Regards,
Dragoon

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:23 am Click here to edit this post
On a lighter note, Stuart, I have noticed that CIS members have begun sprouting up around me on KB now as well as LU, I am feelin a bit crowded. How we gonna do this?


In the Spirit of political Niceties, shall we refrain from future conflicts. An attack on Kebir by any member of your fed here would officially put us at war. Thanks for your time.

WildEyes (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:27 am Click here to edit this post
/me beats everyone over the head with Derrida.

Jackasses.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:35 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

Though I am not totally satisfied with your 'apology,' I was happy to see this part:

"I have learned some things, and want to reintegrate into the World Community... I will be a more responsible nation in the future when it comes to foreign policy, and my tone in my words."

That one statement makes a big impact, and because of it I am willing to implement these terms.


---


I am now withdrawing my special forces units from Idumaea. At this point I have only painted that one country. Everything should be intact.

As Stuart points out, there are several inconsistencies on the NLUO Web site. As a sign of good faith, I ask that you update this site before my war declarations expire. I believe that should be simple to accomplish.

Once that is completed I will consider us at peace.

I assure you that I will not be 'looking' for an excuses to continue this war. As long as you are respectful to the LU community - I will not bother you.

I await that sign of good faith, and would like to be the first to welcome you back into the Little Upsilon community.

Best Regards,
Okstate Guy

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:38 am Click here to edit this post
Well, As far as the members of the NLUO, let them tell you that they are not apart of it... Once they do that,then I will delete them. I will not remove anyone who does not want to be removed, and if an NLUO member does not want to make his affilation public, he or she has that right.. So, to all the NLUO members who claim to not be, email me in private if you want to be deleted...

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:41 am Click here to edit this post
Just to let you know, I am not the chairman of my party, and must consult with him on these matters, as well as a vote from all of the Elite Party members to delete anyone from the NLUO Wordl Government..

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:45 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

That was not a request, and it is not something I am willing to negotiate.

For now, take the names down. Ask those members to post in this thread, or message me directly. If they wish to be on the site then I have no problem with them being listed.

But for now, remove them in the interest of peace. I will let you know at once if I hear from any of them.

Okstate Guy


(I just talked with one of the NLUO listed members on MSN, and he clearly does not with to be listed. So lets remove those names and let them post publicly, or message me privately, if they wish to be listed in the future.)

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 02:55 am Click here to edit this post
@King; In the name of peace, I will contact each player who is obviously not connected with yourself.

@Wendy; KB has nothing to do with me. CIS exists solely on LU and that will not change, at least while I am chairman. I cannot and will not speak for or against any of their actions on any other world apart from LU. It dosn't concern me, nor will it ever. What does concern me though is that you seem to be looking for an excuse to go to war with me. In the last 3 days you have posted threatening messages which I have duly ignored. I'm not going to ignore this one and feel that I have to make my position clear to you. I will tell you this though, I won't fire the first dec, but any decs or sneak attacks will be responded to with decs on your whole fed and affiliate federations. That includes Kings federation. That is not a threat, I just want to be left alone, but if you persist in your current game behaviour towards me, it will happen. I must also point out that SNA would be duty obliged to respond to your decs under the terms of the alliance that CIS have signed with them. I thought we had our differences resolved now? All you seem to be doing is looking for an excuse to fight again. I have not threatenend you, nor will I. End of.

@OKstate; Very diplomatically minded of you. Well done.

Thankyou to you all.

Peace and profits.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 03:26 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

My special forces units have all been withdrawn from Idumaea, should I order them to return?

This is a simple act of good faith and is covered by the terms you accepted.

I would like to make peace with you and let you be, but these are the terms. If someone wants to be added later than cool, but I know for a fact that they do not want to be listed on that site.

I am waiting for your response.

Okstate Guy

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
"In the Spirit of political Niceties, shall we refrain from future conflicts. An attack on Kebir by any member of your fed here would officially put us at war. Thanks for your time. "

I reaffirm this statement, any members of CIS that declare on me on the world KB are and will be subject to hostile actions. I have stated that I am there only for Ameche, should I be attacked by any of your fedmates there, they will be attacked here as well. It is solely at your own discretion to get involved, as it is solely up to them to attack me on another world.

ShcyzMattiCa has Thundered!!! :(

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 04:35 am Click here to edit this post
Do me a favour Wendy, and stop involving CIS in every f*cking war you go into. We are not on KB and if they attack you it has nothing to do with LU or CIS.

Now let me reaffirm. Any decs or sneaks on any member of CIS on LU will be responded to with full military force. Remember a couple of weeks ago when you made 1 token dec on us? How many did you get back?

Also, I will reaffirm this. CIS are allied with SNA. If you attack us, they will be duty obliged to dec on you. Now theres some food for thought.

Again, any presidents who are members of CIS who choose to play on other worlds is not anything to do with me or CIS in general. If they are part of Ameches fed, of course they will attack you, but again - that is nothing to do with me.

I will not allow you to attack ANY member of my fed on LU. Understand?

Now go away and leave me alone.

Thankyou.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 04:50 am Click here to edit this post
Ladies and Gentleman of Little Upsilon - I will now address you directly.

My war declarations against Kink Hezekiah began several hours ago. Despite this I have sought a diplomatic solution. As you can read above, I have been largely ignored.

While taking account of the NLUO Web site, I noticed a link to King Hezekiah's NEW federation Web site:

http://sonsoflightbloodline.webs.com/alliedfederations.htm

After viewing this site, and having been ignored for the past couple hours while seeking to secure peace. I have decided to immediately move forward with my assault.

This site is outrages! It is clearly an assault on good judgement an peace. My blood is boiling and I will finish this now.


With respect for the community,

Okstate Guy
The Empire of Great Burckhalter

quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:02 am Click here to edit this post
Stuart, you may wish to look there as well:

CIS OutLets: Main Enemy Nation is Etruria President Stuart Taylor of the Axis Powers

This in particular.

Princess FluffyBritches (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:06 am Click here to edit this post
Just take his worthless C3's and be done with it.

The only peace King is a threat to is that of the forum, and he is mildly amusing anyway (George of the Jungle lmao).

I have a few sections about me on that site too. But anyone who believes anything on there would have to be an idiot, and thus their opinion is of little importance anyway.

King = Molehill < Mountain.
You Lot + King = Molehill > Mountain

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:07 am Click here to edit this post
King.

What the hell is this

Que Paso?

I am the only other person besides Wendy ever to defend you or the dribble you post on the forums.

I said you brought lulz to us.


That makes me a terrorist?

Look whatever you are doing I don't care. But do not involve me in your insanity. I have no interest in your Fed or goals. Lets keep it that way. Thanks.

jason (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:09 am Click here to edit this post
dec in.

WildEyes (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:11 am Click here to edit this post
I submit http://luterrorists.webs.com/greatburkhalterloyal.htm

as further proof of Okstate's cause.

Although I find it perplexing how he can be listed on the ally page one place, and a terrorist elsewhere.

Do you intentionally pick terrorists as friends, Hezekiah? What does this say of your regime, that you ally yourself with KNOWN and INFAMOUS terrorists who have plundered these lands of LU for so long, imposing their unjust capricious will on the proletarians with no conscience or accountability?!

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:13 am Click here to edit this post
I have taken control of both Israelite Nation and Idumaea. Effectively ending King Hezekiah's empire.

I ask all presidents to look at that site and inspect it for yourselves.

My blood is still boiling.

I will have no part in future negotiations with King Hezekiah. I can't believe I ever offered you peace. This is ridiculous.


I apologize to the LU community, but this guy deserves what he gets.


Okstate Guy

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:16 am Click here to edit this post
After wasting time reading through that site... The only possible "terrorist" I could see actually being a terrorist was Jason and he wouldn't even be a bad terrorist. I infact think that he would be rather good at it. He could employ WOAR Kittens and spread 114 jam all over this toasted world.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Johanas Bilderburg (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:17 am Click here to edit this post
114 indeed.

quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:24 am Click here to edit this post
Anyone feel this knucklehead should be defended for anything now?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:28 am Click here to edit this post
King, what you say publicaly and what you say elsewhere are 2 different things. You have gone against the peace treaty you signed with me too many times now. I have looked at the site that was posted above and I am not amused.

Remove my name and my fed King. I have tried to be nice. I have tried to negotiate on your behalf. I have tried to stay calm. And this is how you repay me.

You know what to do. That is unless you want me as an enemy again aswell as everyone else.

Congratulations on your victory by the way OKstate. Judging by his latest site he deserved it.

114 it is folks.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:43 am Click here to edit this post
114 115 what the f00k ever . . . WAR ON CIS

WAR ON CIS

WAR ON CIS!!!!!

Princess FluffyBritches (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:47 am Click here to edit this post
Did i hear a mouse squeeking?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:50 am Click here to edit this post
lmfao

OK wendy. Bring it babe.

quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:54 am Click here to edit this post
So now its Wendy vs. CIS and SNA?

Odd, since some of Wendy's UC allies are in SNA?

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:54 am Click here to edit this post
WARNING:

A week ago the New Little Upsilon treaty was signed between Seven Nation Army and the Confederacy of Imperium States.

A declaration on one, is a declaration on us both.

jason (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:55 am Click here to edit this post
@Jack Frost mmmmmm WOAR Kittens ans 114 jam.
lol

WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:57 am Click here to edit this post
As a member of SNA, bound by the aforementioned treaty, I am obligated to join in this military action.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:58 am Click here to edit this post
If anyone feel Obliged to declare upon me, so be it. I will rather enjoy a large party.


Muahahahahaaa :)

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:59 am Click here to edit this post
I have been informed that CIS has received War declarations and am preceding as required by our treaty.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:59 am Click here to edit this post
I hereby activate the alliance with SNA. Wendy, you are now at war with 2 of the 3 largest feds on LU.

Enjoy.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:03 am Click here to edit this post
Jason you know the passion of WOAR Kittens and 114 jam combined with LU toast! I commend you

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:10 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy -

I hope we can immediately come to a fair negotiation. I will ask Priest and EO to contact you as soon as possible to hopefully defuse this situation before it gets out of hand.

Best Regards,
Okstate Guy

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:17 am Click here to edit this post
I would respectfully ask that SNA decline its necessity to become involved in this matter, as it is only myself VS. the 125+ multi nation members of CIS. 1 VS 125 multi's, I'll take those odds anyday. Today felt like a wonderful day to DIE>

DEATH TO CIS!!!

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:23 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy -

SNA will work tirelessly to advert this war. Please seek Priest and his council.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:44 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy, the whole idea of an alliance is that you protect one another. Look it up in websters if you dont believe me. Asshat.

L3athalSerph (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:02 am Click here to edit this post
Are u people seriously fighting over a website on the internet?

wendy u are seriously fighting over somebody having weak ass c3's near your country?

seriously wtf are u guys thinking? its like everybody is like in kindergarden.

please stop with the nonsense and if you are going to go to war, do it for a good reason.

I rarely speak on the forums or on any subject reallly, but this is simply amazing...

-L3athal

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:10 am Click here to edit this post
L3athal,
Normally as a friend of yours, I ask that you remain as you have within the forums previously and just observe. Thank you

With Regards,
Dragoon

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:13 am Click here to edit this post
Lethal what is even more amazing is that a valde Subsidium member has actually declared on me as well over this. I will take this as further reasoning to extend my gracious niceties.

Did everyone expect me as Kings fed chair to allow this to happen and then you all taunt him on the forum? You thought wrong unfortunately.

Was the obvious response to my reaction going to be that all the major feds declare on me because of my objections. Then so be it. It will take each and every one of you to stop me, but I will cause an unheard of amount of damage if need be to prove that this is total BS.

Im The High Profitess ***** my money long as eva!!! you wanna go coin for coin whatever its goin down!!

Princess FluffyBritches (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:15 am Click here to edit this post
Which VS member?

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:18 am Click here to edit this post
It was I that Declared, and I did it separate of Valde. If Valde follows that is there choice as this is an independent matter.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:24 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy - CIS didnt invade King, nor did we taunt him. You declared on the wrong fed babe. CIS were trying to be peaceful.

Now say sorry and I will let this finish.....

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:28 am Click here to edit this post
I will expect a full stand down of dragoon so as not to involve VS in this war as I have not declared upon them. I would appreciate The Leaders of VS to speak to him about how uneeded his assistance is and how declaring on Wendy, can be bad for your economies health. If you care to of course. Im ready for wuteva!

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:29 am Click here to edit this post
The King issue had nothing to do with Stuart, CIS or SNA. Those actions, as I expressed to you in private, were taken by me, myself and I.

I am not proud of the situation, or that it has upset you, but the responsibility is mine alone.

If King complies with my terms, I will return to him both countries. Heck, I might even fix them up a little if I have some spear time.

Everything is in Kings hands.

But this is not a valid reason to declare war on CIS. It is obvious that King violated his treaty with CIS, but I have not seen Stuart declare war - he just asked for King to correct his mistake.

Wendy, I respect you and consider you a friend. Lets negotiate this.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:33 am Click here to edit this post
No Stuart you perpetuated exactly this situation as a whole in my eyes. You know he would answer every forum post you did about him. The public responded and of course it has led to this. I will repeat though, that this is NOT about King, though that situation has dramatically increased my irritability. This is about you and me. Case Closed.

SNA I will again ask that you allow Stuart to face me alone seeing as the numbers are totally on his side, I will ignore the decs until fired upon.

Wild, you know I got luv for ya hon, a battle with you, will almost always be an honor. No personal feelinz affected. I don't take this personal. I hope you won't either.

Princess FluffyBritches (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

I will expect a full stand down of dragoon so as not to involve VS in this war as I have not declared upon them. I would appreciate The Leaders of VS to speak to him about how uneeded his assistance is and how declaring on Wendy, can be bad for your economies health. If you care to of course. Im ready for wuteva!




Sentence 1: You make demands of my federation when the player declared as an individual. What position are YOU in to make demands?

Sentence 2: A threat against my member, having already made your demands.

Sentence 3: Another example of the ridiculous posturing that has led you to be at war with the largest players on the world.

Conclusion:

International News


Declaration of War
Thu Mar 19, 2359 Chaos III has declared war on National Defense 2. War will start on 19-07-2359.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:38 am Click here to edit this post
If anyone concedes anything to this ridiculous little troll I swear by all that is holy I will stomp a mudhole in your ass. :) Sim-speaking of course.

Fight don't fight your choice. But no concessions, no negotiations. This is the second unwarranted act of aggression this week. Her temper tantrums are becoming harder and harder to ignore.

Anything left on Friday I will take out.

Death to Wendy.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:40 am Click here to edit this post
Great Death to LDI as well.

quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:55 am Click here to edit this post
Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:38 am

It is Friday.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:59 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy,

I am counting CIS, Valde, LDI and sadly SNA. This is to much for anyone to handle.

Please. Lets all stand down and live to fight another day.

Princess FluffyBritches (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 08:00 am Click here to edit this post
Shut up Okstate :P

The time for peace is long gone.

L3athalSerph (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
meh guess i'll go back to my innactiveness i have so greatly enojoyed. and just when i though the wendy issue's were fixed. ^_^


one could always hope huh....

Tattooed Priest

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 12:15 pm Click here to edit this post
I haven't been to the forum in many hours and missed out on contributing to this thread,therefore the comment I am about to make is way late and out of text but does refer to a topic that came up about midway in this thread.
I am aware that there are Seven Nation Army members that are King Hezekiah sympathizers and/or just find his NLUO an intriguing idea. I will let those members speak for themselves. I neither condone nor condemn King Hezekiah. I feel badly for him due to the poor choices he's made and for his inability to properly interact with others. There was a time when King and I were friends. Unfortunately he quickly began circulating very damaging propaganda with my name on it unbeknownst to me and that is primarily what severed our relationship. Due to this brief friendship King took the liberty to include my name and some of my federation material in his own websites. Yes, at first I was appauled and felt betrayed and wanted my website to stop being plagurized. However, I don't care anymore. Seven Nation Army has since created a newer, better website. I continue to allow King Hezekiah to keep my name on his NLUO pages for several reasons. He does not need to remove my name or any other Seven Nation Army members name that has given him permission to keep it on his site. While King and I are not best of friends, I do have a heart and tend to care about people. He has not damaged Seven Nation Army, the members, or myself nor hurt us in any way. I back Okstate's decision for taking his countries because if anyone ever told me that they were building an empire to destroy me I would do exactly what Okstate did. However, I will never jump on the anti-Hezy bandwagon. I am fully aware he is very controversial. But I believe if one of our respected SimCountry game veterans would have come up with the same quirky stuff that Hezzy has created that it would have been met with an entirely different attitude. In conclusion, King does not have to remove my name from his websites. Tattooed Priest

BorderC (Fearless Blue)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 03:11 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL. Hezekiah..... LOL.....

This is great.


And well said TP.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok State Guy, I thought Jason took my nations. He has declared war on me as well.. I came out in public to accept your terms. I did have separate websites for terrorists, and on my fed site I did have set up enemies, but for the record. I had no time to update , and delete the sites or the info from the sites because We had just come to a peace last night. I was going to delete them this morning, and I find that I have been attacked... I had all the nations I had as terrorists on the site because you all prsented a threat to me. You all said some really harsh things to me in the past. What would you do? I have now deleted both of the sites, even my fed to site try to broker some kind of stable peace.. To show you all that we want peace. the NLUO wants peace. The Sons of Light Federation Confederacy wants peace. I am sure CIS LDI, and SNA Federation Confederacies all want peace. To many nations are quick to flex their power, and that must stop.. INSTITUE THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT!!!!

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:15 pm Click here to edit this post
King, just a suggestion but by keep bringing up this whole NLUO thing your only getting further and further from your goals. Right now what we have works. all of the 3 Big feds have only the interest in peace but none of them are interested in joining you NLUO. I cant speak for any from LDI on this matter as it has been too long since I have had communications with them but I'm also pretty sure they dont want it either. Now giving the top 3 feds don't want it that consist of a very large portion of LU. I think its safe to say that the actions that you have taken thus far ingame have sabotaged any chance you had of possibly establishing any sort of World Order.

With Regards,
Dragoon

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Well Mr Frost, I see it different.. The federations really don't matter in the grand scheme of things...

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post
And that outlook right there is why you won't get very far as long as you try to claim everyone and their mother is a terrorist of LU. Federations are used to train new players how to play and learn both the military side as well as the economic side of the game. A player can go independent and learn these things themselves but it is far more efficient to join a federation and learn there. Valde Subsidium has been around for over a year helping new players to grow and learn the game as well as promoting peace within the world. Not until Wendy's arrival have so many wars been sparked in the such a little amount of time on this fine planet of ours.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:32 pm Click here to edit this post
1. No way to institute such an idea.

2. No desire to institute such an idea.

3. No one wishes to subvert their soverignty to such an organization.

4. We have a Security Council in place already.

5. You cannot change the game to suit you. You can either adapt or leave. Its very simple.

6. We have one terrorist on LU. Wendy. Your Fedmate.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Glad to to see your still around Sam! Is Barney still alive and kickin as well by any chance?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe cause Wendy doesn't choose to put up with BS! I ain't 'fraid of no ghost. . . Who you gonna call? GhostBusters! LMAO!

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree Wendy - you don't put up with BS. Most of it comes from your mouth and we HAVE to put up with it.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:41 pm Click here to edit this post
He is taking a nap but will return soon. :)

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Indeed Stuart, I guess life IS a two way street.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 05:59 pm Click here to edit this post
That is indeed a good thing.

I would just like to point out that http://www.newlittleupsilonorder.webs.com/
is still up and running contrary to what King Hezekiah has said

With Regards,
Dragoon

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Here is one of the Establishment's many propaganda routes to stop an instituion of a real accountability...

The establishment is behind the scenes, and in war and foreign policy, are trying to systematically stop the inseption of a World Government. No one will be giving up any sovernty, just recognizing a World Government for dealing with issues on a global scale, and the forums are a global real of communication.. The Establishment plays both sides of the game.. On one hand they are promoting peace, and on the other hand they are intimidating, starting conflicts, and boycotting, and setting up Security Council resolutions against NLUO members.

We need order out of Chaos!!!

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:04 pm Click here to edit this post
mmmhmmm.

I also noticed last night that the information from his website is still the same old information from when he had the site months ago.

My empire was on his terrorist list, but he did not even bother to update the information. Which meant that I could tell easily he backed up the site to a HD before he took it down.

Even if he takes the sites down, we will have zero evidence that they will STAY down, for he has zero credibility and at best we will be playing whack-a-mole with him...

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:06 pm Click here to edit this post
I never said I deleted the NLUO.. THe NLUO movement is not going anywhere ever. If I am the only supporter of this movement.. I will promote it. I have that right as a free nation.

Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:13 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

We need order out of Chaos!!!




It seems only you and Wendy are creating the chaos. The rest of us must deal with the problems you create.


Quote:

No one will be giving up any sovernty, just recognizing a World Government for dealing with issues on a global scale, and the forums are a global real of communication..





This is a contradictory statement. How can one recognize a "World Government" and not submit sovereignty to such an organization.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Submitting sovernty would be to give control of your country to another entity. You would not be giving up control of your country. You would just recognize the policies of that entity. If you say that is giving up sovernty, then we all give up soverty by joining a federation...

All this talk is getting away from the real crime.

I accepted the terms from OK State Guy.. I was beginning to follow through, and he just took my countries anyway, which provoked Wendy to war, thus you have this situation. So, realll, who is causing the chaos...

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
When I joined VS i did not submit any of my sovereignty. I wasn't asked to do anything different, I was however given access to the libraries of vast knowledge from players that were here before me. I was not asked to accept any policies of any sort. I was merely given military protection if it was needed and in turn I would offer the same to others.

Somewhere in this thread Dub is labeled a fraud and a sellout, that he sells players out to LDI if they don't warship him. I have never worshipped Dub, I have always considered him an equal and a mentor as he took me under his wing when I joined. On many occasions I have shown to him that I do not worship him as have many others. Yet for some odd reason we all still stand beside each other. Why is that I wonder. I think it has something to do with loyalty.

With Regards,
Dragoon

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 07:56 pm Click here to edit this post
"I never said I deleted the NLUO.. THe NLUO movement is not going anywhere ever. If I am the only supporter of this movement.. I will promote it. I have that right as a free nation."

You were REQUIRED by the peace terms OKstate had given you to remove the names of ALL presidents who did not give their permission to you to use their names on your sites.

My name was still there, on your new site, even though I did not give permission, and had in fact requested several times you remove it from any and all of your sites.

The same is true for multiple other presidents.

YOU violated the peace terms; YOU deal with the consequences. Any impartial world government adjudication would reach this conclusion. Of course, you would not want an IMPARTIAL world government; you simply want to rule over everyone with nothing to back it up.

And that is simply fact.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 08:02 pm Click here to edit this post
ALL CIS Members are Terrorist regime supporters. They are viewed as hostile, even while promoting a peaceful message. Trolling IS a crime according to many idiots who declared yet are guilty of the same offenses. CIS Pwning will continue. I see Stuart has not put the well being of his younger sapplings ahead of his own intrerests. He will hang you out to dry as he did with Loki, but I am sure he'll be quick to fend off any attacks on his own country. Either way I am Still coming. I will be building a Website myself telling everyone who indeed is who and what, If you don't like it, I dare you to do something.

Many will be named and what will you do about it?

It does not matter.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 08:38 pm Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

On February 15, 2349 The Empire of Great Burckhalter officially declared war on your empire. Since that date we have been in a continuous state of war.

Following the formal declaration, I proceeded to capture the New Israelite Nation. I then offered you peace terms. You responded with numerous threats to my empire.

After giving you a time frame to accept or reject those terms - you responded with this:

"Thank you masta, I won't let you down. I's a good slave. I will do what my masta say. I's a good, good slave. Want me to dance masta? Anything you want.. I's a do it.. Thank you fo bein' a good undastandin masta, I's a do what you said in that post above, masta, don't you worry yo pretty little head Boss...."

Following this I declared war on both the Israelite Nation and Idumaea.

Before any military action was taken, I once again came to you and offered you terms. You offered a crap apology, which I was willing to accept. I asked you to make good on my third term that night. (Priest, you are welcome to keep your name listed on the NLUO Wed site, but I have talked to other SNA members who do not wish to be listed.) You refused to simply edit the names on the site and figure out who wanted to be listed later.

At that point you logged out and left the negotiations WHILE I had active war declarations on both of your countries. Nothing was settled yet.

I decided to examine the NLUO Web site so that I could tell you what I had an issue with. I would have done this in private to allow you to save face. While viewing the Web site I found a link to your SOL Bloodline Web site.

That Web site was a violation of previous agreements that I had made with you. It was an obvious violation of the terms you gleefully accepted from CIS. On this site you claim my federation as your ally, I assure you we are not. You also list myself as both an ally and a terrorist? I assure you that I am neither.

At that point, having seen the numerous treaty violations, I finished your empire and allowed my military to take full control of Israelite Nation and Idumaea.

How can anyone negotiate with you, offer terms or trust you when you so blatantly disregard every agreement you accept? How are you not a liar?

I don't see how anyone could expect me to ever deal with you again. To have negotiations, or a formal peace, you must have honorable, honest presidents. You have proven that you are incapable of both honer and honesty.

I'm at a lost as to what I should do next?

If you were another president, who wasn't a total liar, I would offer to return both countries to you, as long as you fulfilled your treaty obligations. If I offered you such a deal, what are the chances that you would just do all of this again a few days after the handover?

You never deleted the terrorist material, though you said you did a month ago? This is now the THIRD time a member of this community has caught you in that lie alone.

I don't believe I can negotiate with you further. I politely disagree with some of the posts above. I believe you should leave Little Upsilon and start over on another world. You have only proven to be a deceptive jerk who has no interest in polite relations with anyone!

Unless someone here can talk me down, I don't believe I can ever make peace with you. I simply find you incapable of being honest. At this point I literally despise you. I find you repugnant.

The Empire of Great Burckahlter withdraws all terms. I will dereg the two countries I have taken. I will go back to ignoring King Hezekiah on the forums, but I am STILL in a state of war. When he gets a new slave, I will return. I REPEAT, I will take any future slave state.

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I will now be taking a long break from this forum. I appreciate those of you who are attempting to create peace between King Hezekiah and myself, but I'm afraid I'm having a heard time being interested in such an outcome at this time.

Best Regards to the Little Upsilon community.

Okstate Guy
President
The Empire of Great Burckhalter

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 09:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Wendy - in about 2 hours time you won't have anything out of WP to attack with so again you speak pure bullcrap.

I'm going to take you out BEFORE you have a chance to do any major damage. Just as I have done in the past, and as I will no doubt have to do in thge future unless you learn to control the drivel that comes out of that gob of yours.

you think you scare me? You think you scare anyone? Your a worthless piece of trolling crap wendy - and you have no right to keep on treating people this way.

ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, January 9, 2009 - 09:22 pm Click here to edit this post
ummmm ok stu. Have fun, i'll get back to you on that 1 LMAO!!

Grayson301

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 05:16 am Click here to edit this post
This is to formally make my positions CLEAR..
As Tattoed Priest has stated that he is a Hezzy sympathizer.. I to make this declaration.. King Hezzy can keep me on his website also..
to make my postions clear .. i believe Hezzy needs friend to help him make some decisions although once discussed he doesn't always follow through with the way they were decided. The last one we decussed was to stop trying to expand and to grow economically.
I am in SNA and maynot be for much longer after this i might get tossed out for speaking about him.
I believe Hezzy has a right to GROW and even to expand his empire. I Do not believe he is a real threat to any President of any sizable Federation.
I believe that he has a Right to take a C3 and/or to buy as many countries as he can afford and to manage them the way he wants to.
I believe he has the right to recruit NEW members and/or NEW players as they see fit to Join NLUO and they in turn have a right to not be DCed and/or boycotted on just because they have joined Hezzy.
I agree with OK_State in that Hezzy needs to aplogize and to accept the terms of peace and HEZZY NEEDS TO ABIDE BY THOSE TERMS.
now on a to a personal plea to OK_STATE
Please cool off and let him exist see if he grows and is trying to change his ways Give him more of a chance to play then if and/or when he becomes a REAL PROBLEM handle it SNA can handle him if he becomes a problem. OK_STATE you , EO and Stuart have really helped me out in this game. and i like you all i also like HEZZY for reasons some of you can't fathom i just do.
just allow me to continue to work with him and see if he can change his ways.
sincerely
Grayson301

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 05:35 am Click here to edit this post
Grayson; I agree with most of what you say. Hezzy will not be attacked by us if he leaves Sons of Light and stops all public relations with its leader.

That is all.

General X (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 05:39 am Click here to edit this post
I think okstate is attacking hezz because he broke the terms several times not because he's a threat to any major federation.but what do i know?

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 05:55 am Click here to edit this post
Wow.. I see a lot of propaganda coming from, Stuart, From Ok State Guy... All this is a deversion from the real crime which is terrorism. Period.. I am not again being boycotted by presidents just because they don't like what I say. I have yet to be left alone to build and compte. Are you all afraid that if I get an Empire, I will pwnd some of you.. I think that is what it is, and with the alliances I havbe made, they are setting up a divide and conquer blockade against me, President Wendy, and the Sons of Light Federation Confederacy. They also privately intimidate sympathizers to sway public opinion. They are good at taking sound bites and throwing outlandish accusations. For example.... I told them that I deleted the Terrorist site, which I did.. I set up a back up. They said did I delete that site.. Is that a Lie, no.. I did delete the site they wanted me to delete, but since they see the back up. I am a liar. I beg to differ..

At any rate, We need to just institute this world government, and bring order out of chaos...

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 06:04 am Click here to edit this post
King, Wendy decd on my fed. Therefore I dec on her fed. It wasn't the other way around. Maybe you should do your research before posting.

You are now a member of Sons of Light, so you therefore leave yourself and your fedmates open to attack.

And just a quick heads up - Wendy lost quite a few countries tonight in a multilateral offensive.

As I have said before, if you leave SOL and quit publically backing Wendy - you and your fedmates will be left alone. That is a more than generous offer under the circumstances.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 06:12 am Click here to edit this post
I recant. I am now being boycotted by 22 Presidents after just coming off a Presidential Boycott with 20 Presidents.. All for no reason....


And the LU community says it doesn't Tolorate Terrorism.. That's like George Bush not authorizing Torture..

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 06:29 am Click here to edit this post
I will never quit publically backing Wendy. She is my friend and a stead fast Ally..

If I was given the chance to build an empire I would join in her fight for the freedom of LU from this corupt, Terrorist Status Quota, and ring in real freedom in LU under the protection of the NLUO World Government...

Power to the People!!!
Our people, united, will never be defeated!!!

Stop the oppessors!!!

Stop the establishment Status Quota..

The Establishment won't allow me to build an Empire, and I pay to play this game...

Stop the Oppressors

See past the Propaganda!!!

Wake up LU!!!

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:07 am Click here to edit this post
HEZZY,
i Quote you here-"I did delete the site they wanted me to delete, but since they see the back up. I am a liar. I beg to differ.."-
Dude come on that is a play at symantics- or duel diplomicy for that matter.
you AGREED to remove the names of people you called terrorist from the web site under stuarts peace agreement . and if i understand this right you then set up another site and called them or continued to call them terrorist. that in itself IS a violation of the peace terms.. for its intention was to get there names off a terrorist list.
For this:
"I did delete the site they wanted me to delete, but since they see the back up. I am a liar. I beg to differ.."
my opinion of you sinks a little.
As i see it you were not intending to honor the treaty. thats like Sadam and his Bioweapons only here you were caught with the goods

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:22 am Click here to edit this post
NO. KIng Grayson301. I was intending to agree to the terms, and I did, but I knew that they would eventually renig on their promises because they have double crossed me in the past, as have I seen it happen to Wendy, and I guy who quit because of it.. So, that is why I had the back up.. What people don't know won't hurt them because my aim is not war or isolation, but integration, but the establishment has caused public opinion to sour because I won't stand down which steadily feeds thje beast, and I am not one to feed this corupt beast which is the status Quota. Their propaganda is powerful.. Their knowledge of the game is great, and they've seen nations come and go. They know the ends and out.. That is how the coruption takes hold.. Very quiet, secret, with noone knowing until you figure out that all of your true freedom is gone, help the NLUO movement. Institute the World Government

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:31 am Click here to edit this post
Whatever, King is a free man, its his site he can do what he wants with it, list whoever. Even if he agreed and folllowed through, it wouldn't be long before another st00pid fabrication for another cause of war is brought up. MY Site will be ten times more informative and I don't care who wants to do or say what about it. People should learn when to leave stuff alone sometimes. Playing too hard is gonna backfire on you all one day. And it is fast upon us.

WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:32 am Click here to edit this post
@Hezekaih...


Is that you, Tilton?

Princess FluffyBritches

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

MY Site will be ten times more informative




Behold! A site has been conceived that promises to surpass all others on the interwebz in ambiguity, slander, bias and the archaic art of gibber.

May the ancient gibberese put their blessings on this conception that promises to usher in a new era of meaningless drivel, aimed at persuading unwitting new players to join their cause.

What cause you ask? The cause of Anarchy!!!!! The law of george of the jungle as Nietzche hath predicted in his most splendorous of works Beyond Good And Evil. A world that hath lost it's most valuable asset; accountability. A world ruled by the most evil group of Tyrants, CIS and VS.

Behold! Seven Nation Army, our most glorious of allies, dedicated to free this world from the grips of terror. For we must stop those who eat sand when they are told it is water. The Terrorist propaganda must stop!

Join me in the NLUOMINGE(FIM) (New Little Upsilon Order of Midgetarian and Indignant New Game Experts (For Indignant Midgets)), we are dedicated to the promotion of innapropriate and meaningless acronyms, and we shall create a world government that controls everyone but still magically allows them their own freedom - to do what we tell them too....

The Profittess has Farted Thunderously!

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post
No Wild, This is King...

WildEyes (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:37 am Click here to edit this post
But Mr. King is not Mr. Banks?

Just to be clear.

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:52 am Click here to edit this post
Princess Fluffy Britches, what are you talking about.. Is that sarcasm? I like it..

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 09:31 am Click here to edit this post
"I am in SNA and maynot be for much longer after this i might get tossed out for speaking about him." -- Grayson301


Nonsense.

I'm your branch chairman and would not vote you our for respectfully speaking your mind. When it comes to King I disagree with you in many ways, but you won't get booted for it.

I enjoy our chats and look forward to many more. As for your proposal, thank you, but I can not accept it at this time. I have set course, and I intend to remain steadfast.

Best Regards,
Okstate Guy


(Sorry all! Back to silence - didn't want Grayson301 to feel out of place.)


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