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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 10:59 pm  Welcome to the home thread for L.U.N.A.T.I.C - Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications. Who needs a world government? Who needs n00bs telling YOU how to run YOUR empire. Who needs asshats insisting that you accept a world dictatorship that you do not want. Who wants unfair elections where only a selected few get to vote? Who wants dozens of different threads, websites and blogs to find out information that dosn't concern you? LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military. LUNATIC aims to promote peaceful discussions between presidents on LU and to prove that we are capable of looking after our own affairs without having to be held responsible to a world government - which is what others want. We dont have websites. We dont declare people terrorists. We don't insult vets or newbs without good reason, and we treat each other with respect. We communicate via MSN and in game messages. Lets blow this world government rubbish out of the water. LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU. JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!! Please sign up below and send a message to me with your MSN address by clicking me name to the left, and lets start proper networking!!!!! Become a lunatic today - JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!!
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| Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 11:11 pm Communication is key! We need better communication! I'm in!!
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| Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 11:23 pm sounds Great!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:37 am i like the Lunitic's in LUNITIC count me in
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:39 am Oh my god - a NLUO member has defected!!!!! Welcome Grayson........ LONG LIVE L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:44 am Count LDI in.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:46 am Is this thing actually for real?
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:06 am We are always serious.. Seriously a LUNATIC!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:31 am Its serious. Basically the idea is that we all communicate with each other and talk through our disputes. We will never have any of the crap that NLUO comes with - and all we promise is to aid communication between the top players on LU to help avoid disputes and prove that we dont need a world government to dictate over us, or give votes to the chosen few. NLUO is old news - JOIN LUNATIC!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 02:31 am but a world without enemies would seem quite boring after a while?
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 02:46 am No - we will still have enemies. Our enemies will be those that try to enforce a tyranical regime upon LU. NLUO have even stated in their propoganda that they will take empires by force if needed to ensure that they control LU. They have constantly threatenend nuclear warfare to take over the security council. WE ARE THE RESISTANCE. WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PRESIDENTS ON LU ON OUR SIDE. WE WILL DEFEAT OUR OPPERSSORS. They say that they will offer democratic elections, but only if you join NLUO do you get a chance to vote. They say they will control the Security Council. Now that we have some of the most powerful presidents on our side - they can't. They say they will take LU by force if needed. Let us stop them getting to such a position. LETS STOP THEM NOW. LETS STOP THE TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO MAKE LU A DICTATORSHIP. TOGETHER - WE CAN DO IT. Votes for the few? Secret policies? A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security? A world government run by n00bs? Is that what you want? NO Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C L.U.N.A.T.I.C - Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications. Who needs a world government? Who needs n00bs telling YOU how to run YOUR empire. Who needs asshats insisting that you accept a world dictatorship that you do not want. Who wants unfair elections where only a selected few get to vote? Who wants dozens of different threads, websites and blogs to find out information that dosn't concern you? LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military. LUNATIC aims to promote peaceful discussions between presidents on LU and to prove that we are capable of looking after our own affairs without having to be held responsible to a world government - which is what others want. We dont have websites. We dont declare people terrorists. We don't insult vets or newbs without good reason, and we treat each other with respect. We communicate via MSN and in game messages. Lets blow this world government rubbish out of the water. LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU. JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!! Please sign up below and send a message to me with your MSN address by clicking me name to the left, and lets start proper networking!!!!! Become a lunatic today - JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:01 am Is that you pink?
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:01 am yeah ok im convinced,count me in as well.
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:12 am
lol Barney - Just me i'm afraid!!! STAND UP FOR PEACE STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP LITTLE UPSILON FOR OUR TIME IS NOW!!!!! Join L.U.N.A.T.I.C Today!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:35 am You know, I've been called a lunatic more than once in my life, so this seems a perfect opportunity to officially become one. Sign me UP!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:38 am Your in Elaieva!!!!! Once again - the most powerful presidents join L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!! Do you want freedom? Do YOU want to run YOUR countries? Do you want an open and honest LU? JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:58 am Count me in I am full L.U.N.A.T.I.C supporter. Thanks Stuart for showing me the light.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:07 am I'm on board! Down with the the NLUO! Down with the tyrants! Fight for Freedom!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:11 am Cruz, OKstate - welcome on board guys. Join LUNATIC to safeguard your freedom. JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:18 am wow, finally a place i can belong, and not feel so crazy, o wait i'm in, this is great
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:21 am Welcome Orbiter. L.U.N.A.T.I.C has been going for less that 6 hours. In that time - we have 100% support from presidents on LU. In that time, we have gained more members than NLUO has in 5 RL months. Let us all raise a glass, lets make a toast to..... LUNATIC and its members!!!!! FREEDOM PEACE PROFITS TRANSPARENCY L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!! Join us today!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:21 am Grayson? I thought in King's mind you were the leader of the NLUO? Have you seen the light? Isn't freedom and liberty marvelous!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:25 am Grayson has indeed joined us. Our first NLUO defector! LITTLE UPSILON, STAND UP AGAINST THE FORCES OF EVIL. STAND UP AGAINST TYRANNY. STAND UP AGAINST SECRET ELECTIONS THAT ONLY A SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN. STAND UP TO NLUO. PEACE, PROSPERITY, PROFITS. JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:44 am Stuart, you may count me and Tempus Fugit In C Minor as allies. I don't use MSN chat though...actually don't use any chat programs but you can always send me an in game message. For the record, it was your very persuasive speech and that you managed to come up with an acronym for Lunatic that persuaded me to join your cause.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:48 am Thanks for your support Martock, I'm glad yet another major LU president AND his VS branch have joined us!!! Who needs a world government? Who needs n00bs telling YOU how to run YOUR empire. Who needs asshats insisting that you accept a world dictatorship that you do not want. Who wants unfair elections where only a selected few get to vote? Who wants dozens of different threads, websites and blogs to find out information that dosn't concern you? LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military. LUNATIC aims to promote peaceful discussions between presidents on LU and to prove that we are capable of looking after our own affairs without having to be held responsible to a world government - which is what others want. We dont have websites. We dont declare people terrorists. We don't insult vets or newbs without good reason, and we treat each other with respect. We communicate via MSN and in game messages. Lets blow this world government rubbish out of the water. LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU. JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!! Please sign up below and send a message to me with your MSN address by clicking me name to the left, and lets start proper networking!!!!! Become a lunatic today - JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!! After just 7 hours, we are around ten times the size of the 5 RL month old supposed NLUO world government. STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS LU. STAND UP TO TYRANNY. JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:16 am I Jack Frost, hereby certify any and all countries and presidents within LUNATIC to be swag worthy and therefor by the transitive property good. The LUNWO hereby is merging with LUNATIC. With Regards, Dragoon
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:19 am And yet again, we grow..... Welcome Dragoon. Thanks for your support. LITTLE UPSILON, STAND UP AGAINST THE FORCES OF EVIL. STAND UP AGAINST TYRANNY. STAND UP AGAINST SECRET ELECTIONS THAT ONLY A SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN. STAND UP TO NLUO. PEACE, PROSPERITY, PROFITS. JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:31 am Baah ah ah 
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:33 am Its a pleasure PS. Welcome to L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!! L ittle U psilon N ations A lliance T o I mprove C ommunications ALL STAND TO FACE THE OPPRESSORS. ALL STAND AND STARE IN THE FACE OF EVIL. LITTLE UPSILON - JOIN US ON OUR JOURNEY TO FREE OURSELVES OF SECRET GOVERNMENTS, SECRET VOTES, SECRET POLICIES AND SECRET WORLD ORDER WEBSITES. JOIN US TO RESIT THE EVIL THAT SURROUNDS US JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:19 am Please don't use the NLUO to promote your agenda. We have nothing to do with you, and want to support you in your growth.. Or we can just coexist together... Please don't engage in man tactics against us. We arer not out to be against you at all.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:22 am Stuart, count me in as well. Do we get a small gift or maybe some blonde swedish women?
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:46 am King- we are uniting against you to defeat your agenda.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:16 pm How about a Muliple Armies Nationhood In Allied Coalition? M.A.N.I.A.C.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:16 pm ROFL I'm starting to think King Hezy, zezy (and any other multi) and Stuart are the same person, very good impression. By the looks of it L.U.N.A.T.I.C is LU forum with King Hezy removed.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:49 pm Count me and Tempus Fugit Volare in :P
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:58 pm Reminds me of a song... The lunatic is on the grass The lunatic is on the grass Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs Got to keep the loonies on the path The lunatic is in the hall The lunatics are in my hall The paper holds their folded faces to the floor And every day the paper boy brings more And if the dam breaks open many years too soon And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too I'll see you on the dark side of the moon The lunatic is in my head The lunatic is in my head You raise the blade, you make the change You rearrange me till I'm sane You lock the door And throw away the key There's someone in my head but it's not me. And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear You shout and no one seems to hear And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:02 pm Tartarus is in ... Death to the infidels ;)
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:30 pm I thought that my small, secured country didn't need to be involved in the whole NLUO deal. It didn't interest me, as I thought it was all benign. When I first came across LUNATIC, I just wanted to roll my eyes and play it off as a sad joke. But when I woke up this morning, I saw an unmarked black helicopter flying around the mountain. I correctly assessed that this was NLUO spying on me. I went back to King Hezy's websites talking about a world government that could hold me accountable. I thought I spotted a code in his ramblings, and if you randomly select letters from his posts...it spells out: "kakhsdfhjk jeiycne pobh bwhd ia ndbalzdjhg." And then it hits me...he speaks and writes in tongue. I went to my friend that has a secluded cabin in Montana. After being searched for wires and verifying my identity, (I had to recite passages from his manifesto) we discussed the NLUO. My friend was able to translate Hezy's code. He wants to take away all of my guns. The NLUO would subjugate me into its religious orthodoxy. He even mentioned that he thought that this King Hezy sounded a lot like the AntiChrist with his authority on the Bible. Now, I don't know this King Hezy fellow too well, and I thought the whole devil comparison was going a bit too far. But considering that my Freeman friend was better armed than me, I thought better than to argue with him. My friend gathered a bunch of his Freemen friends, and they all agree that we must draw the line in the sand. We must all stand up and refuse to allow a one world government. We cannot lay ourselves down on the alter of Hezy and sacrifice our economics to his common markets. You can count me in as a supporter and a member of LUNATIC.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:56 pm bump
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:10 pm
The idea behind the forming of LUNATIC was to unite against NLUO, its spam and its secret websites for a supposed world government. Secret elections for a supposed world government that only YOUR friends are allowed to vote in. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR TRANSPARENCY LITTLE UPSILON - STAND UP AGAINST THE OPPERSSORS STAND WITH L.U.N.A.T.I.C We already have one NLUO defector - and a high ranking member too.... LET US SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR TYRANY BY THE FEW AGIANST THE MASSES JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!! Welcome new members. Comrades - we will defeat NLUO. Welcome.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:24 pm i'm just in it for the free medication...
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 08:12 pm Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications. the name implies working towards peace from improved comunications there is no reason we cannot peacefully coexist. the end goal is peace from both parties if we together we can grow towards a peacefull lu. i personaly belive the nulo is organized better but time will tell. shane
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 08:18 pm If your all for peace then why is NLUO hell bent on forcing the large feds who have been imposing peace for quite some time, into joining your organization? With Regards, Dragoon
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 09:35 pm I think we are all pro-peace, but we are tired of your spam and constant terrorising of players in the game.
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 09:55 pm Thats just it. We want peace. NLUO have even said in their self proclaimed propoganda that they are willing to use force to control LU if needed. That they are prepared to use nuclear warfare to take control of the security council. Not while we are here. Not while LUNATIC is around. NEVER. Join L.U.N.A.T.I.C and help preserve Little Upsilon for what it is. Join L.U.N.A.T.I.C and help us to ensure that we are free from the tyranny that is NLUO. JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C today!!!!!
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 10:10 pm hey incase any1 has not noticed king hezey has a slave named "Israelite Nation" its protection runs out on Jan 2367
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| Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 10:19 pm We know - thanks dude! JOIN LUNATIC TO END NLUO's OPPERSSION!!!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 12:58 am Shameless Bump!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 12:59 am No - we will still have enemies. Our enemies will be those that try to enforce a tyranical regime upon LU. NLUO have even stated in their propoganda that they will take empires by force if needed to ensure that they control LU. They have constantly threatenend nuclear warfare to take over the security council. WE ARE THE RESISTANCE. WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PRESIDENTS ON LU ON OUR SIDE. WE WILL DEFEAT OUR OPPERSSORS. They say that they will offer democratic elections, but only if you join NLUO do you get a chance to vote. They say they will control the Security Council. Now that we have some of the most powerful presidents on our side - they can't. They say they will take LU by force if needed. Let us stop them getting to such a position. LETS STOP THEM NOW. LETS STOP THE TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO MAKE LU A DICTATORSHIP. TOGETHER - WE CAN DO IT. Votes for the few? Secret policies? A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security? A world government run by n00bs? Is that what you want? NO Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C L.U.N.A.T.I.C - Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications. Who needs a world government? Who needs n00bs telling YOU how to run YOUR empire. Who needs asshats insisting that you accept a world dictatorship that you do not want. Who wants unfair elections where only a selected few get to vote? Who wants dozens of different threads, websites and blogs to find out information that dosn't concern you? LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military. LUNATIC aims to promote peaceful discussions between presidents on LU and to prove that we are capable of looking after our own affairs without having to be held responsible to a world government - which is what others want. We dont have websites. We dont declare people terrorists. We don't insult vets or newbs without good reason, and we treat each other with respect. We communicate via MSN and in game messages. Lets blow this world government rubbish out of the water. LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU. JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!! Please sign up below and send a message to me with your MSN address by clicking me name to the left, and lets start proper networking!!!!! Become a lunatic today - JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:00 am I thought in King's mind you were the leader of the NLUO? Have you seen the light? the Light i see is the one from the headlights......... Grayson looks around like a deer in the headlights.... sometimes one finds it hard to stay on the fence
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:03 am So are you apart of Lunatic, and not apart of the NLUO King Grayson301. You can't sit on the fence.. Stuart is setting the stage for a Propaganda war.. You must pick, and choose wisely...
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Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:06 am
Theres your answer.
Which is already won. We are less than 24 hours old - but have more members, more power and more influence than NLUO has got in 5 RL months JOIN L.U,N.A.T.I.C and help us free LU of spam and tyranny.
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:14 am Votes for the few? Secret policies? A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security? A world government run by n00bs? Is that what you want? NO Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C L.U.N.A.T.I.C - Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications.
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:41 am I kinda feel like Humpty Dumpty here,Sitting on the wall. @ Hezzy , why can't I sit on the Wall ,After the discussion I had with Stuart He is ok with me sitting on the Wall supporting Luniatic and NLUO as a Federation. @ Hezzy, I consider you a friend BUT don't push for me to get off the Wall.I also consider Stuart a friend
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:45 am LUNATIC is run by the people, for the people. There is no leader. No policies. No enemy nations, no imperial ambitions and no shared military. LUNATIC is for YOU. Yes YOU. JOIN Little Upsilon Nations Alliance To Improve Communications TODAY!!!!!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:50 am LOL @ Grayson. I wouldn't worry about Hezy's threats - I get them all the time, and he obviously lacks the ability to back them up. Besides, an attack on toontown, or toonville, is an attack on Seven Nation Army. @ Hezy... this is how I see it: "I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:53 am I would like to suggest LUNATIC elects a Grand Clown for Little Upsilon! Who is the worst of the worst? Who has no clue how to play the game? Who does nothing but spam the forum? My money is on the King Clown himself! King Hezekiah!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:57 am @Okstate, LOL, I love ya brother!
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 02:06 pm "The idea behind the forming of LUNATIC was to unite against NLUO, its spam...etc" Don't you realize that a troll's no.1 priority is attention, because they tend to side with controversial subject is because more people are going to disagree with them, this giving them more attention. Promoting this "cause" is only exasperating the problem.
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 02:15 pm Yes, I understand that but I and many others tried to ignore NLUO's spam - and we did. Untill he set up a thread or in some cases multiple threads in EVERY forum on here. I can't be bothered to waste my ammo on taking the C3's they have, so were doing it politically instead. I'm simply pointing out obvious truths to which he seems blind. I even named LUNATIC after him then found an acronym to fit it!!! Votes for the few? Secret policies? A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security? A world government run by n00bs? Is that what you want? NO Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:15 pm LOL - Stuart ignored Hezy? WHEN! LOL Seriously... This guy has been spamming for five months. Frankly it is one of the most annoying aspects of this game. I don't mind a bad guy, but a clown who is incapable of playing the game shouldn't be allowed to post fifty times a day. I'm personally disappointed that the "game" hasn't dealt with this. I'm finding myself increasingly put off by the game due to that fact. It would be nice if we could play this game in peace, and not have to deal with trolls like Hezy. If someone posts racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist and sectarian messages on this forum. They should one, be banned from the forum for a certain time period, and two, be banned from the game entirely if they persist. I believe if/when I abandon SimCountry - it will be for the fact that the forum is filled with disgusting posts from King Hezy or some other clown. Forums should be a place for 'responsible' free speech. Not rambling spam. Take for instance the word 'terrorist.' Can you imagine, in this day and age, calling someone this word at work, at home or in your community? Yet Hezy does this daily here, and it is allowed and tolerated. People like Hezy make me sick. Thankfully our general society no longer tolerates the intolerant.
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:29 pm in this case, the word "terrorist," is being used as "commie," or "witch," in the past, its easy to give some one an ambiguous label, that could mean anything, and denounce them for that. i mean the prime example of "terrorist" in sc is wendy, who is a respect leader of the NLUO??? this is bizzar. but stu, who simply doesn't want to be slandered, is public enemy #1??? i guess lunatic is perfect, for todays sc current events
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:42 pm The word "terrorist", the word "strategist", and the word "tactician" are morally equivalent. Any of them could be entirely appropriate label to give someone who is play a war game. The definition of a "terrorist" changes rapidly. Major changes in the American English meaning usually occur every time the United States gets a new secretary of state. Former secretary of state Madeline Albright gave this definition in an interview "terrorists are militant people or groups that are not part of a government". Since Stuart was using military force and is clearly not part of Hezy's government Albright's definition fits quite well. The game is set up with Stuart as the president and government of a small empire. That could disqualify Albright's definition. However, Hezy either does not understand or refuses to acknowledge the game mechanics. Hezy's use of the word terrorist to describe Stuart is consistent and appropriate given Hezy's view of the situation. Moreover, Stuart should not be offended by the term.
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:40 pm but that is a bit one sided...which is the problem here to state some one who is militant and not a part of a government, is a terrorist... ok, but the use of the word, implies much more... it implies some one that causes destruction, with the intent of overthrowing a foreign power... with a callus disregard to that powers sovereignty, and human rights. Taking on a moral high ground, that allows for any malicious actions, commonly, but not entirely based on differences of religion. another instance of a word commonly misused, is "hypocrite," which mean actor, but is used to describe some one that applies a double standard. by that, i could say that king hez, is a hypocrite...by endorsing wendy's never ending war against *every one* but condemning stu for holding king to his own promises
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:57 pm "The word "terrorist", the word "strategist", and the word "tactician" are morally equivalent." Are you serious? That's a big step towards moral relativism. Hez uses words like "terrorist" because he isn't creative enough to garnish support otherwise. This is a game, so he's well within his bounds to denunciate his enemies. If this were on a more personal level then his actions would be more of a fool or ignoramus. BC
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| Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 08:45 pm I'm here!!!!! Now my say. I do not like being called a terrorist on this game for the simple fact it is an outragous lie. I have offered King peace on many occassions. I have kept to my side of the agreement but he didn't. He created a new terrorist website within days of a peace agreement, therefore going against the terms. He still has a fleet by Etruria which has also invalidated the terms but I have chose to ignore that fact since it was from his main and cannot attack me. If I created a fleet in my main and moved it to his coast - that would be posted all over the forums in a flash. He said he would stop the spam - he hasnt, going against not only my terms, but the terms of OKstate guy too. As you can see - King is a two faced liar who cannot be trusted. Now Wendy. Wendy and I signed a peace agreement in November. I thought that would be the end of it, but no. For 2 months I ignored her constant baiting and veiled threats untill a couple of weeks ago. I told her I was not going to put up with her behaviour towards me any longer and to stop it or I would stop it. Her response was not in writing, but a series of sneak attacks followed by a declaration of war. Not so bad you may think - she has nothing to fight with anyway - untill I tell you that she decd on Orbiter after sneaking him for hours. Not me - shes too scared to dec on me i think, so she has to dec on my fedmates instead. These 2 are the biggest spamming, ignorant and down right lying, two faced people I have ever had the courtesy to meet either over the internet or in RL. I am not a terrorist so dislike being called one, just as if I called Orbiter a nobhead (yes - im being polite, or trying to at least!) he probably wouldnt like that either. It is a tag that I have done nothing to deserve, and for the record I only ever declared on King once he refused to listen to me after 2 RL MONTHS of asking the same thing. A terrorist would have been in there straight away. So - what do I do? Do I go into a war with a bunch of C3's and waste my ammo, or do I find another way to get my point accross? Diplomacy is out of the window - I don't trust either of them as far as I can throw them. So what am I to do? This. LUNATIC. I will defeat them politically. I'm sure you will agree that a terrorist would not do that Anyway - rant over. Sorry for the lack of any punctuation or any spelling mistakes, or if I appear slightly incoherrant - I have now been awake for almost 48 hours due to RL workload, so thats my excuse!!! Peace and profits to all. JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:02 am Oh my. Diplomacy. Yawn. I say let the fun begin. On a side note, My WAR Ltd CEO would be happy to supply you with all of your weaponry needs. Please contact me there or at my main Nevrondona should your war making pelasures not be satisfied with your current stockpiles. I am aim to please any destructive desires. Fight on my friends and we shall all be rich!
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:42 am lol
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:53 am BorderC, It is not moral relativism. You could easily make the case that strategic warfare is much worse than terrorism. During the bombing of Dresden in WWII non-combatants fled to the riverbank to avoid burning to death. The fighter planes escorting the bombers dropped out of formation and strafed the riverbanks. I'm not trying to point fingers at the U.S. The Germans are guilty of a lot strategic activity too. If you try to kill all of the enemy it is not a terrorist attack it is a strategic attack. Genocide is also not terrorism. The survivors and victims may be terrified. You can say it is terrible. But that does not make it terrorism. Rape and murder gives an example were an event can be one or the other and both only in a sequence. Saying that a specific gunshot victim was not raped is not condoning shooting people. Stating that a rape victim was not murdered and that the rapist is not a murder does not mean that you are condoning rape. In another thread there was a discussion about how to kill off all the old people. Someone wanted W3C to add a euthanasia button. When the victims are electronic Sim-people real world ethics don't always apply. Pillaging a Sim-country is not the same as real world pillaging. In a war game the label "terrorist" does not need to be taken as an insult.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:55 am I did not know that my presense on this world garnered so much hate and hostility.. This is a great conversation, except for Stuart reoccuring spam through the thread.. I am glad to see everyone diplomatically, and intellectually looking at this issue, in which Stuart and I created... Then tagged along by Ok State Guy.. I will tell you all my motives.. It looks like I am the bad guy because Stuart has been here longer, and he is richer.. His Nation.. OK State Guy, Rich nation.. Everyone likes him... Here is why, Ok State Guy fell in line with how everyone worked here.. No threat... I come along, and want to help build a World Government because one, I didn't like the current structure, two the power was uneven... I blasted the promotion of the NLUO World Government to create an alternative to the Status Qutota.. The majority of the World does not see the NLUO as a threat, but if you pay close attention to the posts any NLUO members or me in particular post, there are the power junkies right behind us to spam us.. I understand that I spam alot, but it was in reaction to aggression towards me.. The only reason my nation has not moved forward is becaue I get boycotted every 2 years... ALL THIS IS OVER WORDS... NOT ACTIONS WORDS.... They see that the NLUO is growing and people are interested, and it is a threat to their way of life, and their power.. Period.... If Stuart would have never spammed my threads I created from the Beginning.. I would still be posting in that same thread, or have a thread in each forum.. We have a fed so I can post there... We have a common market, so I can post there.. Compare this to school. Remember when you were in school, and you made up a game, and all the kids said they didn't want to play.. Then you go play it yourself, and then some kids come play, then some more, and before you know it the kids who didn't want to play at first are playing.. Except for the kids that spoke out and said the game was stupid.. Those kids always tried to start a fight to gstop the game altogether, and then later beat up the kid who made the game up. This is the same senario with different people..
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 02:22 am No, you are despised because you came here and thought you could tell others whom they could and could not declare war upon. That decision does not rest with you, never has, and never will. You will never have the right to dictate to another president, especially one outside your fed, what to do. It rests with the president who logs into his respective nation.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:01 am No one is trying to control anyone... Keith, You take things too personal..
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:25 am "The majority of the World does not see the NLUO as a threat" -- Probably because the majority of the world doesn't even know about NLUO or VS or any other major fed. Let's face it, the majority of the world are comprised of unknown players who don't read the forum or don't use the chat features or both. Those who know of it are the few who use either the forum or chatroom. I'm betting that less than 30% of the LU playing world is aware of NLUO. You might ask how I came to this conclusion, well mostly just guess work (90%) and the low amount of aid requests from new players (10%). If new players were immediately directed to these forums, I'd see a lot more requests for "FREE MONEY" and they'd know more of all the political nonsense going on here on LU.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:35 am Grayson: Good disclaimer. I need to adopt something as well, but for now--"Yeah, what Grasyon said above!"
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 04:45 am Sorry King. But I believe the foundation of NLUO was based on trying to even the playing field between newbies and veteran players. In a sense, that also means controlling the larger empires through means of entangled politics through the rules of the NLUO. Maybe if the vote was based on population I might be a little more interested in voting, after all we are supporting the sim peoples right? Lunatic seems to be a little less controlling, and just a means of getting people closer. I'm not interested in entertaining world government. Maybe something more similar to the United Nations. Or mutual protection for all empires signed. ~ Lelouch
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:59 am See what I don't get is that you think you are unique King. I came into this game and pissed off some of the bigger players right away. I have never apologized and never looked back BUT I can guarantee that quite a few players in here have respect for me. Hell T O said he respected what I had built and it caught me in complete surprise that I had no clue what to say in response other then thank you. In this game you can piss on just about anyone you want as long as you do it respectfully. As it stands right now I have 3 people I would be required to answer to for my actions, Kevin Henry, Dubhthaigh, and Laguna (saved the best for last .) I would definately answer to others whom I respect such as Wild, Sam, or Barney if need be due to a long and generally good relationship with them. With Regards, Dragoon
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 07:11 am the truth is, a "world goverment" is not needed, just a better mentor system. in this game, their are "asshats" and those people, don't last long... and their are people who have a difference of opinion, asshats, create 20 threads, hoping some one will read one of them people who are disagreeing will argue on one thread asshats, will try to create a new system that fits their playing style people who disagree will comprise, and find a way to co-exsist think i can go on, but you get the point
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 09:12 am World Government is need, and once you see the interaction, and fairness of it, you won't know why it was not put in place sooner..
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 09:33 am Votes for the few? Secret policies? A government that hides behing an iron curtain of website security? A world government run by n00bs? Is that what you want? NO Little Upsilon - STAND UP. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. SHOW YOURSELF AGAINST THE TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO CONTROL YOU WITH SECRET VOTES AND SECRET FORUMS THAT ONLY THE SELECTED FEW ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN. STAND UP FOR FREEDOM STAND UP FOR L.U.N.A.T.I.C
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 09:45 am NLUO want a world government, a few with the power over the masses. NLUO have threatenend to use war to gain control of LU federations and force fed leaders out of their positions unless they do as they are told. NLUO have threatenend to use nuclear warfare to get control of the security council. You, YES YOU..... What are YOU going to do about it? What are YOU going to do to preserve LU for what it should be? JOIN THE RESISTANCE, JOIN THE MAJORITY OF LU; JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY AND HELP LU TO STAY FREE FROM DICTATORSHIP. JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C!!!!!
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 04:28 pm Pathetic Sheep, I agree that terrorist isn't the same in game as out of game. It's like Bush calling Saddam Hussein a terrorist to garner support for war. Hez is doing the same against Stuart and others. As I said in my previous post, calling somebody a terrorist in game is different to personal attacks (or real life) of the same. Maybe we are just having objections to terminology. Killing innocents to cause fear or submission = good case for immorality. Eradicating enemy combatants by strategy = weak case for immorality. My opinions of course. As for Stuart, You proved to me in chat yesterday that you have either a bad memory, serious misconceptions about me, or Hezekiah is right about you being an asshole. I'm guessing your definition of "asshat" is anybody not on your own side, if that's what you want to call me. That, or your imagination and vocabulary are limited to simple pejoratives picked up in these forums. BC
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 04:41 pm Bad memory? No. When you were in SOL - you threatenend me. You said that if I didn't back off from attacking Wendy, you would build up and come after me. I was so scared. I really was. lol My definition of the word 'asshat' is someone who plays the game in a way which is intended to either provoke a response from someone, or speaks on the forums in a way which provokes. Another definition could always be, Border C. After that last provoking and personally insulting message, I think it fits quite well.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:01 pm Maybe my memory is bad, because I have absolutely no recollection of that. The MAJORITY of my posts were singeling out Hezekiah on how stupid he was being. In fact I was getting kicked out because Wendy thought I was taking your side too often..... This is what happened. You saw BorderC join SOL. You immediatley thought asshat and everything I ACTUALLY said on the forums was filtered to fit your presubscribed notions. Don't worry, it happens to lots of people who elevate ego over intelligence. "My definition of the word 'asshat' is someone who plays the game in a way which is intended to either provoke a response from someone, or speaks on the forums in a way which provokes." Isn't LUNATIC meant to provoke a response from Hez? Do you consider yourself an asshat, or are you immune to your description? "Another definition could always be, Border C." Now that's just darling. Maybe you should go do some fingerpainting with the other children..... BC
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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:07 pm
Its not how I remember it. I do not or have never insulted anyone before something has been said to me.
No - its one thread. How many has he started? Hell - I even named it after him, so he shouldnt have an problem with it.
Nah, thats boring. I wanna play with my cars..... oh....and this one;
Im actually a certified member of MENSA with an IQ of 138. But some would just say I should be certified. I also have my own business and am a fully quallified Investigative accountant. Perhaps it should be you doing the fingerpainting?
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:15 pm Since my good name is in question I dug up my part in the Hez/Stuart/SOL conflict: Taken from this thread "Official Declaration of War" last updated 12/19. ----------------------------------------------- I went to look at the site today and the only recognizable name I saw was Tattoed Priest. If you're talking about the terrorist page it's just a broken link now. I don't blame you for being pretty pissed off at his BS, but really, do you think he is all right in the head??? This would be like beating up a retarded kid at a bar. It's not going to silence him and it won't make you look any better. Honestly, I'd rather not be dragged into a fight for King's stupidity, but I'm in the fed (SOL)also and will help in its defense. You should reconsider. Perhaps schedule some sort of parlay.... BC But really, what good is attacking him going to do? He has one junk country and his secured main. No doubt you will take the junk country, but that will likely only lead to more spam and complaining from him. Lately his spam has gone down (that I've noticed) and it looks like he's removed his terrorist webpage. Maybe he's becoming more reasonable. BC King, as a show of good faith we would all appreciate it if you took this first step towards peace and removed Stuart's name from the site. BC "Spoken like a true statesman. I'm afraid most of us have lost our objectivity. I hope you can reach out to King Hezekiah and convince him to rejoin the world community as a partner." Thanks. Hopefully you can convince Stuart and others to put an end to their hostilities as well. I've messaged Hezekiah and Wendy is right, he's a good guy that hasn't had an easy time fitting in here. He just wants to have fun here as well. BC I've kept up with it for the last month on the boards. I've only gotten involved recently because I joined LU a few days ago. I've said all I can say in Hezekiah's defense. If he doesn't want to take the steps toward smoothing things over then take his country and we'll all chance war (depending on Wendy, I suppose), or Hezekiah will continue wasting gold coins on securing it. BC PS.. I've looked at the NLUO site up and down and the only reference to Stuart is a small section that says he convinced Bakronesia to quit the org. Am I missing something or is that what the fuss is about? "You are the most arrogant person I have ever met.." "It is a new day, and you are still a fool... " Hezekiah, either you are the arrogant fool or you are a pretty good (yet underhanded) tactician with GC to waste. I guess we'll find out which is which. Don't think we don't all know we're being used. It's just a game to some of us. BC. Well, if you don't want war then be diplomatic. You are not being that at the moment. If you want war (to get rid of the "terrorist") then let it begin. He'll even start it if you take your country out of protection. Your fed will probably back you up. The SOL will probably back you (depending on Wendy). But I'm tired of all the BS on the boards. Either settle this or bring this to war. It's your decision, just make one already. BC PS - I think Stuart is mostly right (maybe not in threating others) in this one so I'd rather you settle rather than bringing your allies into a war to satisfy your perceptions. Those are some pretty damn good terms all things considered. "PS - I think Stuart is mostly right (maybe not in threating others) in this one so I'd rather you settle rather than bringing your allies into a war to satisfy your perceptions. Those are some pretty damn good terms all things considered." That's it. I'm going back to grammar school..... threating??? I'm starting to sound like others on this board..... I understand your side Stuart. Hell, I even understand a little of H's side. I'm in it for SOL, that's all. I just wish something would happen... Personally. I think our energies would be better spent the LDI or whoever our real enemies are. Hopefully King will realize that as well..... "I respect a lot of what you are saying and how you are dealing with this situation. Do you really want to fight for this guy? Regardless of what is posted you have a choice. Feel free to IM me if you want to be left alone." Thanks, but no thanks. I'd personally rather not fight with him, but he is in SOL so I will. I'm just playing along in the game. I only say it here to distance myself, personally, from him. In LU I'll be his stalwart ally as long as he is protected by Wendy (SOL). Keeps things interesting. Anyways, check out the KB (or General) board for the US vs. EU clash ("Clash of the Continents" thread) preparing to go down on KB. We need some US players to join in and help. Everybody is welcome to join. BC "I will reiterate. I will not attack any member of SOL with the exception of King Hezekiah, but I am ready to defend myself if neccessary, and to launch a counter offensive. I will not be the aggressor in any CIS/SOL war. You all knew what I was planning before you accepted King into SOL, and I won't back down now." It's alright man. It's all part of the game. I think most of us get along well enough to have a pretty respectful war. I look forward to it. I have plenty to learn. BC ---------------------------------------------- Now, explain where the asshat is in this? Or if you are refering to another post, say where. BC
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:21 pm "MENSA with an IQ of 138. blah blah blah blah" Then I'll expect better from you. And since you are so smart, you will recognize that I wasn't necessarily mocking your intelligence. I was mocking your ego.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:21 pm Dude - I don't just pick and choose who I fall out with. It takes a lot to get on my nerves - hell, it took King 2 months and it took Wendy longer than that. I'm pretty confident that I will find something somewhere, but if I don't I will then offer you my apologies. Anyway - it wasn't me who started to drag your name down. Look up - who started this conversation between me and you???
And I expect better from you if you are trying to take the moral high ground here.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:26 pm I'm continuing the conversation you began in chat yesterday. At the time I was in PM with Smokes trying to get him to stop his attacks against new players. It took precedent over our discussion and you had left before Smoke's and I finished. So this is for resolution. BC
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:30 pm @ Stuart Your a decent guy but your really starting to sound like wendy at times... BC isn't an asshat @ BorderC Your a decent guy as well, I have not known you as long as I have Stuart but I still wouldn't put the asshat label on you. @ Stuart and BorderC Shut the hell up already your both starting to get on my nerves. With Regards, Dragoon
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:33 pm So, if you didnt want your name dragged into the mud, why carry it on here? Why not wait till you see me in chat again, or ask for my MSN? It seems you wanted to start an argument on this thread between me and you, and this paragraph which is taken from your above post could be the reason why;
Anyway - whatever. I am sending you my MSN address for future reference. And good work with smokes if you managed to get anywhere with him.
I never said he was. What i did say was when he was in SOL, I thought he was becoming an asshat - not that he was. What started all this is that in the past - I am sure that BC threatenend me, I told him to bring it on or something to that effect. We were speaking about it last night in chat, but you know the thing???? I actualy said to him that I think your OK now..... Thanks.
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:34 pm See Stuart, Like I said in that other post, if you just leave Hezekiah alone, he will calm down on the spam. Let him build up his NLUO World Government.. I am actually curious to see if he can build it to at least the 1st goal of filling 48 seats in his government.. They have now created and Executive Administration within their Elite Party headed by the Chairman od their Party.. I like how it is set up.. Nations with egos would not be able to join because it is set up kinda like simcountry as far as starting of with 6 million simpeople and growing.. You start out in their Masses Party with no power, and that is usually the nations just starting out on simcountry. As the nation grows and the Elections come around, the nation can move up to the next Party, and so on and so so until you reach the Elite Party, and by that time you nation should have at least 25-30 Million people.. I paid close attention to the info on the site.. It actually does work well with the growth of your nation in the game.. The only thing I don't see fair, and this is purely an ego thing, is that the Elite Party is the ruling party. The only real oposition to the policies is the polling, and war. The Elite Party can not send a full strength NLUO member War.. They have a provision in their policies that are against that. As far as a single nation to single nation, they would have to vote in their federations for war.. It is pretty cool.. King is not that bad.. He gave me his password to the site to see the policies, and everything because I told him I was tired of his spam, and was going to join with Ok State Guy to stop him, but he told me the situation, and I talked with other NLUO World Government Officials, and King gave me his password, so I read the whole site, and came up with these conclusions.. Take it or leave it, but can we please get back to helping each other better learn and play the game... That is my last word on this matter.. Thank you, and I hope Hezekiah stops with the spam..
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:36 pm "@ Stuart and BorderC Shut the hell up already your both starting to get on my nerves." Thanks Dragoon, but better to get this out and over with then to be bitter. Not the best venue, but Stu isn't in SC chat. BC
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| Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:39 pm No, but I will be on MSN later on..... @General G; The thing is - I know King isn't that bad a guy dude. I just wish he wouldn't try and force feed us all this NLUO stuff through the forums. I have spoken to him on MSN and in private chat on IRC - I know he's not too bad. I don't want to destroy NLUO - I just want him to chill a bit. BUT..... 1) He hasn't kept to a peace agreement signed 2 months ago with myself. He constantly builds new websites with my name plastered all over them with the tag of terrorist. 2) His still has a fleet in my terratory. I know it isn't a threat - thats why I have ignored it. 3) How can a world government be free and fair if they hide behind an iron curtain of website security? It must be because there is something on there that he dosn't want us to see. Perhaps a new terrorist site which would once again go against the terms of the treaty I signed with him. 4) Does he really have to start a new thread every 5 minutes? If he had one mega thread with everything on - he would get left alone. I even composed a message for him and posted it on the federation forum.
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:45 am Because we cannot trust nations like you with the inside info.. You will try to use it against us to overthrow our government.. STuart you have no self control.. That is why there is security.. I know if I let it be open like it was, what did you do Stuart.. That is your problem.. You don't take responsibility for your actions, and I have apologized on many occassions to you and OK state Guy, but what do I get a slap in the face.. This is why things are the way they are.. YOU AND OK STATE GUY WANT CONTROL!!! The only way you both can convince me otherwise is to join the NLUO World Government or just leave me alone.
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Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:53 am
King - if you want a world government there will always be opposition to your policies. Much like there is in RL. Now - putting everything on secrecy dosn't help does it? Yes - I agree that you have apologised - but you then refuse to comply with treaties. Therefore, your apologies are worthless, that is why we call you a liar. You spread lies about others, but if you took your own actions into account - this wouldn't be happening now. We do not want control - we just want you to abide by what you have agreed in the past. I cannot speak for OKSTATE, but I will never join NLUO as it stands at the moment. Perhaps if you listenend to the advice of more experienced players, you might actually get somewhere. When I spoke to you on MSN, you realised your mistakes. You realised what you had done wrong. You realised that your present course of actions would lead to conflict. Next day - your back to your usual spamming self. Untill you realise that it is not 'normal' to start on average a thread a day since you have been here - this will continue. One thread should do it all. By all means - keep on bumping it, but just the one thread PLEASE. JOIN L.U.N.A.T.I.C TODAY!!!!!
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:58 am Website: www.propagandaminister.webs.com/
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 02:22 am General X - NICE WORK! Anyway we can have that added as an affiliated program for SimCountry.
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 02:37 am thanks okstate,its still under construction and took me a few hours to make
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 05:21 am Shameless bump. Great site. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:22 am How hard is it to add a forum?
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:24 am i dont know how hard it is but if you want to try it your more than welcome
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:36 am I checked the link in this forum's source code. They wanted $150 so I searched google and found a free one here. My computer sucks and it will not handle any downloading. I could add content if it can be done remotely.
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| Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:41 am i might try to put it in my self but hopefully someone else will.
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 12:54 am Today people, we have seen the true intent of NLUO. Currently, they have a member on the security council, namely Kingasia. He started one proposal to ban nuclear weapons for my country, Caldera - which is a personal issue with me. Personal issues should not be a part of the Security Council. In my time on SC, I have only EVER launched 2 nuclear weapons. One when another president done 17T of damage to my corps while I was on vacation, and another against Kingasia when he sent me a rather disgusting and threatening personal message. Not only that - he has started a vote to give his friend and fedmate, King Hezekiah 5T in develpoment aid. King Hezekiah has already received 10T in aid in the past, and used this to purchase weapons. If this is what it will be like if NLUO run the security council like they propose to via nuclear warfare, then i'm sure that you can all see what they are capable of. NLUO are a terrorist organisation dedicated to their own personal advancement in the game, and will use all loopholes available to them to acieve this target. People, I ask you to consider your position on LU. I ask you all to think about what NLUO have done in the past, and have threatenend to do in the future. JOIN THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM..... JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!!!
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 02:52 am Stuart, I have to object. It sounds like Kingasia is attempting to use the game mechanics to gain a tactical advantage. There are a variety of appropriate responses. Declare war on him or his friends. Start boycotts. Disrupt his economy. Retaliation by forum complaint is not good gaming.
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 02:55 am I'm making people aware of what NLUO are. That is all. They try to gain an advantage by having an SC member do strategic voting in their favour. Now, imagine what it would be like if they ever achieved their target of having NLUO members making up 51% of the security council. Now, thats bad gaming.....
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:12 am www.propagandaminister.webs.com/
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:52 am may a hooligan join the LUNATIC's
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:57 am may a hooligan join the LUNATIC's
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:01 am lol, double post but yes - all are welcome!!!!!
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 06:21 am I am now proud to announce the set up of our militant wing - M.A.D, Millitant Armed Defence. All L.U.N.A.T.I.C's are now invited to be M.A.D too, but you must be a LUNATIC before you are allowed to be MAD. We are also thinking about setting up an intelligence network to infiltrate NLUO. This would be known as I.D.I.O.T - Intelligence Dossiers In Organised Treaties, and a dedicated public relations network - P.R.A.T - Public Relations And Text, which will communicate to every member via in game messages (text!), and help us to expand our vision to other presidents. Again, all LUNATICs are invited to be MAD, but to be MAD you must first be a LUNATIC. To be an IDIOT you must first be MAD, but to join PRAT you don't have to be MAD, just a LUNATIC. JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!!!
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 06:48 am i wanna join MAD
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 06:57 am Thats cool - You are already a LUNATIC, so you are more than welcome to be MAD too.....
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| Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 02:23 pm The Dalek Empire would be honored to join L.U.N.A.T.I.C. Dalek Sec of Dalek Prime
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| Monday, January 26, 2009 - 04:42 am Does joining lunatic mean posting nonsense in this thread or do people register on the site? Should idiots join the NLUO common market? I have a half dozen slave countries without markets.
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| Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:22 pm Since Hezekiah is attempting a coup against Grayson in the NLUO...I'm in.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:23 am This is on the NLUO site; THE LITTLE UPSILON INTERNATIONAL COURT WAS ESTABLISHED TO HOLD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR POLICIES, AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THEIR POLICIES. THE COURT CONSISTS OF 4 JUSTICES:THE CHIEF JUSTICE, AND 3 ASSOCIATE JUSTICES. ALL JUSTICES ARE APPOINTED BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ELITE PARTY. THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE AT LEAST 2 INNER PARTY JUSTICES ON THE BENCH.THE JUSTICES TERMS LAST 50 LITTLE UPSILON YEARS. THE TRIAL IS SET UP AS SUCH. THERE IS A PLANTIFF, WHO IS THE PROSECUTOR, AND THAT IS THE SECRETARY OF JUSTICE ,AND A DEFENDANT FOR A CASE. ALL CASES SHOULD BE BASED ON POLICIES, AND NOT OPINION. IF THE JUSTICES DON'T FIND THAT POLICY HAS BEEN BREECHED THEN THE CASE WILL BE DISMISSED. SINCE CHURCH AND STATE ARE SEPARATE, BUT EQUAL, NO ONE WILL BE CHARGED WITH BREAKING RELIGIOUS RULES AND LAWS. PUNISHMENTS IF FOUND GUILTY, AND SENTENCED LEVEL 7 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, ISOLATED, STRIPPED OF THEIR EMPIRE, PRESIDENTIAL BOYCOTTED FOR 30 YEARS EVERY 2 YEARS, SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS AGAINST THE NATION IN QUESTION FOR NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND NO NUCLEAR FACILITIES IN THEIR COUNTRY. LEVEL 6 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, ISOLATED,AND STRIPPED OF THEIR EMPIRE, PRESIDENTIAL BOYCOTTED FOR 30 YEARS EVERY 2 YEARS LEVEL 5 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, AND ISOLATED. LEVEL 4 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN ALLOWED TO RETURN, BUT TO START OVER FROM THE MASSES PARTY, AND CAN NOT HOLD ANY POWER POSITIONS. LEVEL 3 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THEIR SEAT IN THE PARTY THEY WERE LAST IN IF NO ONE HAS CLAIMED IT. LEVEL 2 FELONY: MUST STEP DOWN FROM THEIR POSITION OF POWER IN THEIR PARTY. IF THEY HAVE NO POSITION OF POWER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOTING AT ALL.. THE POSITIONS OF POWER ARE AS FOLLOWS: CHAIRMAN OF THE ELITE PARTY, CHAIRMAN OF THE INNER PARTY, SPEAKER OF THE ELITE PARTY, SECRETARY OF STATE, SECRETARY OF JUSTICE, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, SECRETARY OF TREASURY, THINK TANK CHAIRMEN AND MEMBERS, FEDERATION CONFEDERACY CHAIRMEN, AND FEDERATION CHAIRMEN. LEVEL 1 FELONY: CAN NOT VOTE ON ANY ISSUES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.. You can view this at; http://newlittleupsilonorder.webs.com/luinternationalcourt.htm Right, lets get this straight. You are going to boycott your own members AND strip them of their empires if they break YOUR rules? You are also willing to get rid of a democratically elected leader just because he dosn't do as you say. That to me is not the democracy you keep on saying that you are pushing for, but a dictatorship. A totalitarian regime. Pure evil. A letter; Dear NLUO members, If any of you are subject to bullying by any member of your organisation, or if you are threatenend with either warfare or having your empire stripped from you once you get one; send an in game message to my main, Etruria. I, and other members of L.U.N.A.T.I.C will offer you full military protection from the evil forces of NLUO. Yours Faithfully, Stuart Taylor President of LUNATIC
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:31 am Stuart, Grayson won his impeachment vote today - I believe by more than 100 votes!!! To my knowledge he is still the Chairman of the NLUO. At least for today. Hopefully King Hezekiah will use this court as an excuse to purge those members who are true war mongrels. Those who are responsible for the NLUO's recent military defeat.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:42 am Grayson must be a good leader. 100 votes is probably a new record. A 100 point margin is definitely a record.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:28 am It shows just how out of touch the so called leadership of NLUO are with everyone else. JOIN LUNATIC!!!!!
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:40 pm Since Grayson is still the chairman he ought to think about starting treason trials for King Hezekiah and Wendy.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:21 pm United Israelite Empire and Israelite Nation have abandoned the NLUO market system. Anyone from LUNATIC is welcome to join the NLUO market system.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:50 pm The NLUO Market System is now under NEW management.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:58 pm The L in NLUO now stands for LUNATIC. N00bs and Lunatics United with Others.
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| Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 11:09 pm ...
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 07:14 am LoL
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 10:52 pm Now, if you don't know - Hezzy has been banned from the forums for a week, but the fight against NLUO still goes on. He has set up CNLUOIA, which at a guess stands for Central New Little Upsilon Order Intelligence Agency and has a list of 'The LU 10' on the same page. At a guess, he is naming people as terrorists, and there are 10 of us. Here's my guess; Me OKstate EO Keith Allaire Laguna 6gunner Jason Grayson Shane Sam Houston And I bet i'm not far wrong either!!!!! The page can be viewed here, but at the time of writing it is still under construction; http://newlittleupsilonorder.webs.com/lutencnluoia.htm Lets end this lunacy - JOIN LUNATIC!!!!!
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 10:57 pm ok, if he's banned from the forums for a week, that explains why he is suddenly so quiet... maybe when he returns he can charge me with espionage
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:25 pm This central intelligence thing sounds like a cheap knockoff of the LUNATIC intelligence.
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:37 pm It does. Ours sounds better though - it was even named after Hezzy himself - I.D.I.O.T!!!
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:51 pm SWEET I finaly achieved something in this game I am on one of Hezzy's list. I must be doing something in this game correct!
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| Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:55 pm Don't get too excited Michael - its not official yet, the page is still under construction - but that is my guess as to who is on it.
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| Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:28 am Ya build me up and then just stomp me into the ground. Thanks
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| Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:54 am oh ... oh i made the top TEN list .. i think..????
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| Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:58 am Nope grayson it is just Stuarts impression of what it is going to be. I was hopeful that I would make a top ten list also but we will have to wait and see. Hopefully, we will have the list quick so we will all know.
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| Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 07:56 am I see that SNA is well represented as always.
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| Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:35 pm Looks like the page is down. I get dumped to some kind of search engine page when I use that link.
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 03:41 am Please excuse the formatting, but this is copied directly form The LU ten and CNLUOIA page. Here is the information in full;
There is a chatroom at the bottom of the page, but in typical NLUO fashion - nothing has been said. I am also happy to be able to reveal the name of the NLUO black op's federation as 'The Patriarch SOF' May I thank members of The LUNATIC intelligance services for this information. Thanks.
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 04:14 am Damn! Hezzy will never learn about the terrorist stuff will he.. Well i can Forsee the outcome of this already happening. Hezzy is Still asking for trouble with Wendys encouragement.. that is a case of the Blind (Wendy) leading the DEAF(Hezzy)
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 04:19 am lol I think he listed half of LU on that page
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 04:43 am Damn I didn't make the most wanted list...I'm only waaaaaaaaay at the bottom... 
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 04:50 am Don' forget this bit!!!!!
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 05:23 am damb... i realy wanted ot be on that list aswel mayb i should threten him and mayb ill get on the next one
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 05:26 am Shane just Grow and seek peace with everyone. Stay with SNA and you will make the list i promise..i tryed to be friends with HEZZY and i have made the list for speaking out about WENDY
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 05:36 am please allow WENDY to keep posting False info.. it will asist in her conviction. for war crimes.. even though we have no real way to enforce ... wait.. maybe a sc proposal to remove he rights for nukes is in order. SECURITY Counsel please
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:49 am @ stuart .. Hezzy took that section DOWN real fast
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 07:01 am What is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpGZUfuvuo&feature=channel Did Hezy do this? Is lynzii808 on YouTube Hezy?
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 07:02 am Man I did not make the list either. Where does one buy a car bomb factory?
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 07:03 am I honestly think this IS Hezy!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyY6xUW10VQ&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4KTUiT_s4&feature=channel
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 07:05 am OMG!!! THIS IS HEZY PEOPLE!!! EVERYONE PLEASE WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7egLqnPZ8s&NR=1 He even has a Myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/littleupsilon
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 10:53 am lmao. I just posted that elsewhere! We now know the mental age of the person we are dealing with is about 11. lmfao.
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| Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 09:43 pm He couldn't have ripped a State jersey? Damn it. Go Blue!! also RTR!!
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| Monday, February 2, 2009 - 05:53 pm I thought Stuart was joking when he said he liked boys.
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