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There is no Peace there is no Fun (Little Upsilon)

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Nelus (Little Upsilon)

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27 Feb 2009 23:24Link
Well there it goes another bully got 8 countries for free. And the Game lost another Player.
Its a shame how it is, offens is plain to strong and easy. A strong player can whipe any player below him without considerable looses. Defenses even 10 times bigger have no effect as offenses are more accurate and hit where they do damage while defens cant be everywhere and if its no match for offense. It will never end that a few strong players will mess up the game for all "new" players that want to play this game. Alot of money the devs loose this way but cant be helped. Have Fun trying to find any Fun here, good buy.
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Lolosaurus (Little Upsilon)

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27 Feb 2009 23:35Link
what happened?
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Zentrino (Little Upsilon)

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27 Feb 2009 23:42Link
Huh?
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Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

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27 Feb 2009 23:50Link
he is at war with Keith Alliare... his countries are oblivion NW and add other direction abbreviations
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General Dirt (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Feb 2009 01:31Link
Well, thats a lil less money for the evil GM now isn't it. Thanks Keith.
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 01:39Link
I suggest you contact the Gamemaster directly to complain.

This raid was a very, VERY direct result of the Gamemaster's obsession with reducing cash levels...to the point where a country is no longer even allowed to have enough cash to accommodate automated ordering functions before it is taxed away by financial services.

I fear that as GM tightens his grip on cash, this will happen far more often...
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Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 01:57Link
I hereby wish to bring formal charges against Keith for heinous acts of violence!

I hereby wish to bring formal charges against Nelus for not defending his assets!


With Regards,
Dragoon

Associate Justice of the NLUO
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FredMark (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 02:23Link
I can understand justification related of decreased profitability as well as increasing density of LU active players;
but how raiding other countries increases cash level limit and decreases burden of financial services?
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 02:25Link
Fred, FS was irrelevant to this case. I had 25T across 7 countries, the game up and ordered 20T ammo for me one day. My average net cash dropped below 1T, and I dropped from level 6 to level 2.

This raid wasn't about getting money to see taxed away by FS; this raid was about replenishing a minimal cash reserve that the game decided to blow one day on ammo!
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FredMark (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 02:41Link
That I can understand.
BTW, I was not trying to issue any judgment, I simply did not understand logic.
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TuCulo EsMio (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 03:16Link
This is, of course, a possible outcome when the econ side of the game becomes exceedingly difficult or frustrating.

Your neighbor becomes appealing from a "club over the head" stand point.
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FarmerBob (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 03:18Link
Raiding players, active or inactive, is and always has been a perfectly valid means of aquiring SimAssets.

W3C knows full well that when they wreck the economic system, (this is hardly the first time) that players will turn to alternative means.

Kudos, Keith. Continue to cull the herd as you see fit.
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Zentrino (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 03:30Link
Justice Frost I agree. I have brought charges against Mr. Allaire already his acts of violence. These can easily be added to the existing charges.
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General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 03:38Link
"Kudos, Keith. Continue to cull the herd as you see fit."

Haha, and when I do it I'm the SC tyrant asshat.

Zentrino,
Keith is implimenting what you and I talked about. In fact, according to the "victim", he is quitting so I'd say mission accomplished. 1 paying member has been removed.
Thanks for the continued support. Many of our talked about ideas will be in action within the week. I'll shoot you a list of names so you can distribute them to all who are relevant.

1 down, 500 to go...
Dirt
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 04:00Link
Meh, if he's not sticking around anymore, I may as well keep some more decs active against his remaining countries, until the countries I just took lose their WP.

Then I can transfer in SF, drop them, paint, and save me assloads in ammo costs. :)
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TuCulo EsMio (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 04:23Link
We are coveting thy neighbors now!?

Lock up your wives!

I wonder what a complete "free for all' would do to the servers?
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Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 04:43Link
leave those with the most time and munitions sitting high atop everyone else if they could strip countries fast enough.


With Regards,
Dragoon
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FredMark (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Feb 2009 05:17Link
First of all, I do know I annoy you with my contraries views.

But anyway, let me (without any morality clause) explain why it may not be such a good idea to cull the heard prematurely.

You see, this game is, by design, is not balanced.
Games of this nature typically either have reset to level a playing field or have (as MMORPGs) specific enforced restrictions to prevent uneven combat.

Because nobody took care of such restrictions, there are only two ways for a new player to integrate:
- to join establish federation (sna or valde)
- limit themselves in safety of protection

In both cases it does not expand competitive player base and nobody benefits.

Now you may say that it is not an issue, as far as from your gaming experience existing community big enough. And it may be so, but is rather stagnant.

All superfeds and players within them are trying to attain lead of powe
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 05:29Link
Well I see it like this,

The GM has created this mess by reducing the Money and raising the Cost

The GM is insigating the need to "Covent" what another has.

The GM is the Problem.

the equasion used to be this:
Time = money
To figure the minimum, figure out how much money you're making per year and divide it by 2,000. To figure the maximum, consider how much you make for your most productive time -- closing a deal, a speaking engagement, billable client time, etc. Somewhere in between there is the real value of your time.

therefore,
one hour of my times worth 19.5 us dollars per hour.
looking at it frome this point of view the GM should be increasing my time worth of game play not trying to decrease my Worth.

also this point of view:

women = time X money

: : and according to Benjamin Franklin, "time is money"

: : time = money
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FredMark (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Feb 2009 05:49Link
if each missile sqrt($19.95)^evil and each missile power of 3KT of TNT equivalent (Total Noob Tool)

If I have 2,000,000 missiles and you have 2,000,000 missiles would it make any difference from
I have 2,000 missiles and you have 2,000 missiles

to the question when dorman's wife's lower's pet lizard graduated from MIT?
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shaun (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 05:57Link
eh might be cuz im newb only having played after the gm has done whatever it is to reduce cash making potential not sure how easy you vets had it or watever but as far as i learned when i was in school you either evolve or go extinct... so evolution means in our case now cutting costs to increase profits, there will be a time when u run out of other countries to take over for profit and then what...so ya go take the countries while u can but eventualy you either have no one left to sell to, no one left to take over and your back to square one that is nothing to do but then disarm or go bankrupt
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

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28 Feb 2009 06:00Link
My average FI was 125 when all my cash went bye bye...I should have been making profit in spite of my military.

Unless you suddenly need a FI of 200 to break even now.

I will continue to profit whether by economy or by raiding until my membership expires, whereupon I'll have a massive gold coin sale/cashout. I've had enough.
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FredMark (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Feb 2009 06:29Link
Keith,

As you know I am a noob.
But I have lousy 700 corps ent (Voshod POO on LU) that generates 0.8T twice a day and it is not even 80% 225/225 and most (over 90%) corps are c3.
My little country is a joke (I use it as a breeding ground for corps) but it is rather profitable with MIB L5 military.

My point is that EVERYONE has the same playing field here (well, almost). It is not a question or Ranger versus Shadowknight, Tempest of Set versus Wizard or Minstrel vs Captain. That would be Naval Fighter versus Naval Helicopter cost/benefit and I imagine would be legitimate (how much do I know).

I am not sure I grasp what difference does it make, as long as 90Mil of your country can support exactly the same military as your neighbor 90 mil country equally well managed without exploits.
It can be 20 tanks, 2 divisions, 200 groups of armies as long as it is the same, what difference
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Keith Allaire (Kebir Blue)

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28 Feb 2009 06:33Link
huh? Are you accusing me of using exploits? I am having trouble making sense of what you're trying to say, Fred.
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Beast (Kebir Blue)

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28 Feb 2009 07:06Link
Enough. Stop. Someone who is previously making billions of dollars per month should NOT lose 20T in a day. I have talked to several players who this has happened to, and I feel more raids are in line. I advise all of you to band up if you haven't already.