DTA's Evaluation (Little Upsilon)

We have pushed your buttons here on the forum & have watched your expected responses. This allowed us to evaluate your game. We now know your strengths & weaknesses. We watched Balrog test 2 WB countries five times his size & almost win. SSS2 will forever be our term for a super suntan The costs were worth it! I;m looking at WB's country & he has 28 slaves in one alliance alone LOL does he ever pee?
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SIM GAME SUGGESTIONS:
As DTA discusses the budget necessary to build an empire to keep the war alive (DTA has a game fund), there are several pros & con arguements. 1st off - we love to fight & love the challenge.- MOB does coordinate well & would make a fine opponant. We do want to give 'good game' however. here are some of the cons - & suggestions to improve the game & make it mor

Interesting suggestions.

wow

You can start the war game on day one but do not expect to win against someone who has been stacking weapons for 3-4 years.

Other than that the 75% is also a bad idea because:

Player A has a country 5000 def
Player B Attack Player A Player B has 4000 Def.
Player B win sell/lose to player C with 3000 def.
Player A can not fight back Player C.

Other than that i would love to see a 'submission' feature where a defeated player would keep his country, but pay a fee for a fix number of months in GC to the conqueror.

Jee~LU

Lol if anyone needs any population, Mob has about 1 billion of it to sell (quite literally)

Thanks for your kind donations DTA

In response to your problems - those problems are almost entirely beginner problems. If you play the game and try to interact with players who know what they are doing, perhaps you would be able to smooth out your problems a little.

Please do build up again DTA, I had fun and made a nice profit ;)

Oh boy...alright Zanzia, here goes.

First, I'm glad you read Wild's guide, she is a very smart lady and happens to be the person who trained/mentored EO and in turn myself. She was a member of our fed until she went inactive a couple of months ago. So before you get too excited about how successful you were or were not, you should consider that you never had any chance of taking a single country from us, I tried to tell you that the other day, but you don't want to listen. I'm hoping now that you realize the person who wrote the guide that you are basing your entire strategy on, is a close friend and former fed member who has shared all of that knowledge and more with EO and myself.

As I said in the other thread, we respect your commitment to the goal and willingness to risk it all for a win, but you guys have a lot to learn about taking a country. You guys seem to completely ignore the war index, nuking over and over

idiots

Care to elaborate chiwoo? Or why you posted on the other thread about keeping our nukes or damage to ourselves while you support Windy throwing nukes everywhere for no reason? If you have some sort of valid point then we'd love to hear it, otherwise, why don't you keep your meaningless comments to yourself?

*SIGHS* WB he was on tallking about DTA moron.

WB is so *hardass* , looking for problems where there wasn't one.

Thats why I *asked* him to elaborate...and also to elaborate his other comment in the other posting, I'd like to understand where he is coming from. If he thinks I'm an idiot, that's fine, but I'd like to know why...same with DTA, I think they are making bad choices but I don't think they're idiots.

I'm not looking for problems, just looking for answers...but thanks for answering for Jiang Hu Windy...we know that you speak for ALL of SC so it's important that you answer...

LOL....

Hush little baby don't say a word...
Windy is gonna buy you a pretty skirt...

"1. What game is this? - A decision should be made re: SIM as a war game or an economic game."

I think that's a very good point. It's my opinion that the creators are pushing SC to an econ game with the option to war. While this game has great potential as an econ game (for those who like that side), the devs don't have either the talent or innovation to make this a great war game at the same time. WP and Secured Main are a perfect example of this. It's a cheap, ineffective way to war or avoid war. But, it's so abusable that it makes the game completely ridiculous. I can sit in my main, spending 0 GC and attacking or raiding whomever I with few consequences. Not all of us enjoy having empires, so it's an easy way to abuse the Secured Main and, in the same manner, WP.

I would suggest one of two options to W3C: 1.) Change your products strategy and bring in new talent has innovative *ideas*

Agreed BC, something does have to change and I'd love to think W3C would bring in innovative talent to figure that out but I highly doubt that is an option. I do think that there are a few relatively minor changes that could be made to make the war side of the game much better, fixing the wp rules would be first and foremost. Jojo and I had been in discussions for a while a few months ago but I got busy and haven't had time to work with him in a while. However, he made a great post on the wiki about this which I was supposed to add to but have not yet had the time...but if you or anyone else has other ideas/opinions on those ideas that would be great.

This has been going on for far too long now and there is no reason that rules can't be created to limit wp use to the reason it was designed, protect empires while on vacation/inability to play and creating a second category for presidents designating themselves as 'econ only'

Did you really think that WP would change anything?

I could always just reduce to a secured main and rinse and repeat the same thing. Any changes that occur, have been adapted to in the past. There is always more than one way to skin a cat.

What you are failing to mention is the abuse of blackout periods.

Blackouts were introduced so that people who couldn't log in didn't have to lose on that basis alone. But maybe you don't care that during Serpents blackout period, he added 30 million pop, deployed new garrisons with the newly acquired personnel. The country was in the worst shape possible before the blackout, he had absolutely no garrisons, now the blackout was abused to replenish lost ranks. That is not what it was intended for, nor what it was originally requested and added for. So why don't we hear you crying about that? Because up to this point it has helped you and you guys gang style fighting methods. If y

One thing I'd like to know is what W3C's long-term plan for this game. If they're intentions don't match our desires, then our suggestions aren't going to carry much weight, regardless of their merit.

Wendy once again you are proving just how big of an idiot you are. First of all, my blackout occurs from 2 am to 6 am my time, when I AM ASLEEP. I did that because the second time 3M wiped me out I woke up at 5 am to defend myself and it sucked...so I know that during war I can stay up until at least 2 and if absolutely necessary get up at 6. Second, Serps blackouts were not set by him, he actually hates blackouts...those were your good buddy Alarich's blackout periods...you do realize those are his countries right? Why would Serpent set a blackout in the middle of the time he would like to be fighting? He was pissed off about it...trust me. Third, who are you to say what can or can not be done in a blackout? If I usually work all week and set my blackout for the middle of the day so that I can avoid war while working, I shouldn't be allowed to work on my country on the weekend? Stop being stupid and trying to find problems that don't e

The right way has to be your way?

WB nobody cares what time you log in. Nobody cares how many times 3m wiped you out. Or anything else you whine about for that matter.

If you had half a brain to fool me to fight, 'your fight' yeah you win. But you don't. And you can't. And you won't... EVER

I'm just a pillow in the bed you made, now go on and lay in it.

Make sure you shave those legs b4 you come out here showing them off on the forum, sweetcakes.

He is so *HARDASS*

Windy quote. "WP and Blackouts need to be removed, I agree 200%."

OK, If you drop all your WP I will remove any and all blackout periods ASAP. Deal? And for the record, none of my other countries have it, those were in fact set up by the previous owner. But if you hate wp so much, 200% much... PROVE IT! Put your assets where your mouth is!

No...the right way is the spirit of the game idiot...the game that you spend so much time on but can't seem to figure out how to play. Can I just point out again that you have pretty much no military and therefore a bunch of CEO's and econ slaves and you STILL are ALWAYS broke...why is that? You suck so bad that you can't even figure out how to make a profit without a military?

Anyway, was the spirit of wp that people could perpetually hide their assets in it while using c3's to nuke players who aren't hiding in wp like cowards? I'm pretty sure not...

My bed...lay in it? What the f*ck am I laying in? Destroying you? And for that matter, what exactly did I do this time? I did nothing, YOU created the drama by being a greedy asshat...YOU decided to dec on my fedmates who did nothing to you...YOU are creating drama over absolutely nothing...YOU have pissed everyone off so much that you have boycotts against

REMOVING WP OUT OF THE GAME WOULD ONLY BENEFIT THE STRONGEST PLAYERS AND FEDS.IT WOULD LET ASSET RAIDING GET WAY OUT OF HAND AND RUN MOST OF THE MIDDLE CLASS PLAYERS OFF.MANY OF US HAVE VERY DEMANDING JOBS AND EVEN THOUGH WE LIKE THE WAR GAME OUR FREE TIME TO DO IT IS LIMITED.

Agreed Biggie...but while you are busy with your job you aren't at the same time fighting with c3's are you? I am not in any way saying that there should be no war protection, just that war protection should prohibit you from deccing on active players with other countries.

So, when you have time to fight and would like to get a war going, everything comes out of wp and you fight. Otherwise, feel free to use wp to protect your empire while you don't have time.

Is that unreasonable?

BTW, nice to see you again and thanks for the comment

This subject has come up many times before.players in this game (including myself), will always find away to use what is available in different ways.if wp is to go then so should feds or in other words make war so you can only be dec on by 1 player.there are other ways to help your mates in war (advice ect).this would make players responsible for their own actions.there are pit falls in this idea but that is all it is ,an idea.

@serpent, I have gotten the message of blackout, did you not add 30 million pop and garrisons during a blackout?

@ameche I make plenty of money on the game, enough to continue playing this game how and when I want. I have plenty of gc, I play two worlds for absolutely no profit and my LU empire pays for itself and them, yes with 3 slaves in perma war protection. It is truly a beautiful thing.. All the while I have almost more than 250 trillion dollars in my main, and 300 trillion in my empire and another 100 trillion plus in my direct trade account. According to you I'm not making a profit? LOL If you know I have little military, wouldn't that explain why you and slurpy are jumping up and down about how you could win if I take my slaves out of protection?

Yes it does.

When they strip war protection, I'll go to one main and enjoy more of the same. You'll still scream like little gurl. I see those legs...

@idiot If you're sitting on so much cash then why are your empires ALWAYS in debt? Why are you constantly *needing* assets and thus starting wars out of greed? (Which by the way is what you tried to put on me...just more hypocrisy from queen hypocrite) And there you go again insulting women...double down on the queen hypocrite Windy...if I was to be talking that much sh*t on women then you'd be wanting me banned from the forums...sigh

Straight Jacket - No one is saying that war protection should go, just that if you are using war protection then you shouldn't be able to declare war on other players during that time. The purpose of war protection is to protect assets while you are away or unable to fight...not to protect your assets so that you can run around being an asshat and wasting people's time while firing nukes everywhere as little miss hypocrite does.

If wp restricts queen hypocrite Windy fr

" @idiot If you're sitting on so much cash then why are your empires ALWAYS in debt? Why are you constantly *needing* assets and thus starting wars out of greed? "

LU Net Cash of the Empire is 310,489.05B SC$

WG Net Cash of the Empire is -1,704.77B SC$

GR Net Cash of the Empire is -27,219.62B SC$

Balance
You have 101.59T SC$ in your account.
You have 2333.00 GC in your account.
And none of that is Visa power

I'm in Debt? Ameche explain how you managed to convince yourself of that.