| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:00 am |
In response to Wendy's (aka Psycho_Honey aka Inanna) constant disrespectful and time wasting c3 wars we have initiated a boycott of her LU empire. There needs to be repercussions for players going around and using c3's to constantly declare war on players while keeping their assets in war protection so that they can not be touched. There needs to be a balance such that if someone's assets are being threatened by constant war declarations, the person declaring needs to have assets of their own at risk, otherwise there is no reason for players not to just constantly drown others in war declarations. For those of you who are going to argue that what she is doing is within the rules, you are right, however this is not what the rules were intended to create. For those of you who will say that she must do this to fight off a far larger enemy, that is completely false. All of Wendy's 'main' countries are in war protection and no one has declared war on her because that would be impossible, she also has no federation she is defending and she has no friends that are being threatened with war or involved in a war with a far larger enemy. These are war declarations of her own choice for her own purposes and she has already wasted far too much time for far too many players. For those of you who have not had the pleasure of experiencing this annoyance, imagine having a c3 to take every 3 or 4 hours, 24 hours a day, for 2 or 3 or 4 or even more weeks. Plus, these are not c3's, they are in debt, they have 100 forts and you must spend 5-10T in ammo and weapons to take them, while she has put none of her countries at risk and you have absolutely nothing to gain and so much time to waste. If this were something that happened once in response to a particular incident, it would be understandable, however this has been going on constantly on one world or another against one person/federation or another for the better part of 1 year now, this is not an exception, it is the rule.
We ask that you please request a boycott on the following countries:
The Art Museum
DonT Stop Now
No one will be able to see that you have signed this boycott so you need not fear repercussions from her and for anyone who does not know how to do so, it is fairly easy. Go into your LU Main country, go to the 'World Trade' link on the left hand side, then on the top left under 'World Market Trading' select the last option 'boycott other countries' then enter the name of each of these countries and submit.
Something must change and there are two options, Wendy stops with this inappropriate behavior and stops wasting so many people's time for her own amusement, false bravado or the GM's fix the rules as has been suggested by so many over the past 6 months or more to be that someone can not use war protection AND declare war on other players with the same empire, it makes no sense and it is clearly not what was intended when the war protection system was implemented. If something does not change then we will be forced to figure out a different way to go about this and since we can not direct our disapproval at Wendy due to all of her countries being in war protection, we will have to direct it elsewhere because we have no other way to end this mindless and wasteful behavior on her part.
Thank you all for your support, if you have questions, concerns or comments please direct them to 'WB 001 LU HM Econ' or 'Team Teamwork', both on LU.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 12:27 pm |
Do I even have to say,
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 02:57 pm |
WHITE BOY,WHERE DO YOU PLAN TO DIRECT IT.IS THIS A THREAT TO THOSE OF US WHO WILL NOT BOYCOTT WENDY.YOU COULD STOP THE ATTACKS BY SPENDING SOME COINS ON WAR PROTECTION AS MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE HAD TO DO TO KEEP YOU FROM TAKING OUR COUNTRIES.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 03:45 pm |
10 Days til I make HOF, and MightyMouse calls for a boycott on a world where I am not fighting lmao. Just say that you want to mess my levels up so I don't get first. It is a day late and a vote short. Amuse me with your gurly antics.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 04:06 pm |
The rules have to be changed.
Wendy has discovered and occupied and exploited an ecological niche in the game. That's kind of cool, and in a way she should be commended for her cleverness and perseverance. How many others of us have changed the way the game is played?
But by exploiting this niche others have to respond, and the only effective ways suck. The basic way is to keep all your valuables in WP. That's expensive, and it kills the war game.
As far as I know, the only other ways involve making it more costly for the c3 warrior to operate (usually making it more costly to you, too) and making your own countries less attractive and less valuable (which certainly sucks).
Anyone who has a lot of coins and some time can harass and weaken their opponents, and sometimes take a valuable country as a prize. Whether it is a profitable strategy or not, I think it hurts the overall game and the rules should be changed.
I suggest a new rule, for all worlds, which is a modification of "Zeba's 2nd rule":
You can't declare on a president unless half the NOMINAL VALUE of your empire is out of WP (and remains out for a full game month.)
If it's half the COUNTRIES, the c3 warrior can just get more c3s. Other rule changes like making offensive weapons more expensive won't stop someone who doesn't care about the costs.
I think on FB there should be no WP at all except for vacation time and noob protection.
For those who agree, I suggest we complain to the GMs about c3 wars. You can join in this complaint if you've ever had to fight one of these wars, or if you feel the need to buy WP to prevent one of these wars, or if you don't like the fact that so many other players are in WP because of the potential threat of c3 wars. They've changed rules based on a handful of complaints from noobs in the past.
Nothing personal against Wendy, I think she should get a continent named after her, but the rules should change. They should give a few weeks notice so everyone can plan accordingly.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 04:29 pm |
LOL, I have a strategy for any rule change as well. I'll make sure my whole empire is c3s and dec like that. Result, nothing changes.
Except, I myself won't need to keep my eco slaves in war protection, I profit off my single main just fine and would be more than happy to dereg any of them in order to continue my style of play.
If you don't bother Wendy, she doesn't bother you. If you don't stomp the weaker players while calling yourself a warlord, Wendy doesn't bother you. I like the boycotts though, kep them coming. I haven't even been fighting on LU, but MightyMouse decides, to bother me. The only thing he has done, is ensure himself a nice c3 battle. I'm gonna make each and every one of your countries look just like EO's Old Guard on GR. Prominent war slave looking like a buttered up c3. Markets green from all those weapons he's selling. And really WB you must really really suck if you use 5 to 10 trillion taking an undefended 100 fort c3. Tanks and arty solve that problem. I thought you had every clue how things work here? If you don't get one. Boycotts won't work. Neither will any war changes. Things have changed before, and like before I'll adjust if necessary. I'm flexible like that. You need to be validated, I told you you'll get your shot.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 04:30 pm |
Oh, and Yeah, 'Inanna Major' has a nice ring to it JoJo. LOL!
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 05:01 pm |
Well said Jojo. I completely agree with the half nominal value, I've thought about using population in that way as well but nominal value makes sense. Also it should be half of nominal value is out of war protection/secured which would take care of Wendy's plan to get around the idea.
Biggie - I understand that you are not able to play on a consistent basis and due to that you feel the need to keep your assets in war protection spending the necessary GC's to do so and that is absolutely your choice. However many of us have built countries which are perfectly fit for war and have spent a lot of GC's doing so, simply keeping them in constant war protection to avoid constant harassment because a single player exploits the rules of the game to waste so many people's time just does not make sense. I, like so many others, like my countries, I like to fight with my countries instead of just building them to look at and admire their war rank and see no reason to spend a bunch of GC to avoid a war with Wendy, a war which is of no consequence other than when their is a single hole or perhaps you have a sudden weapons deact due to 'Not enough MLM's under the age of 50' even though you have hundreds of thousands of LLW's and MLM's available. I have no issue fighting wars as many of you know, however when it becomes month-long affairs with c3's it is quite ridiculous, pointless and a time drain. This must change, I'm not detailing what our future plans will be if it does not, but we do have a plan. Just imagine what it would be like with a whole bunch of players with a whole bunch more skill and a whole bunch more assets executing the same strategy as Wendy...maybe your right Biggie, maybe we should ALL just be in WP because one player wants to manipulate the rules...while we're at it, why not just eliminate the war engine too?
Windy - Of course you'd respond this way, expected nothing different. Don't give me that BS about 'if you don't bother Wendy, she doesn't bother you' or 'stomping weaker players'. First, how did Christopher Michael bother you? How about Tendo? Beo? How many others do I have to name? Stop pretending that your wars are about anything other than your own asset raiding and attention seeking. You don't fight the people you have a problem with, you fight those associated who you see have a place where you can send a nuke or who are inactive and you can take their countries. Also, I haven't done either of those things, I was of no bother to you until you decided to start a war with SERPENT (not me), over me beating up Biggie, who by all his own claims was so much better than me and would beat me to the ground. It was a one on one fight...so it isn't as if he was outnumbered.
As far as your claim about how much it costs to take a 100 fort c3 from an active player, tanks and arty are not an option when you have someone like you taking c3's in every corner of the world, which you do purposefully, because nukes have no range limitations and you know the c3's will last longer as navy has to be sent, c3's have to be taken to paint, etc. You are fully aware of this and it is part of your strategy, don't pretend otherwise. Tanks and arty are quite cheap, navy...not so much.
Threaten me with your wars all you want, we both know that they are meaningless to me and because of that you won't attack me, you'll attack one of my fedmates or allies who you view as weaker or where you find a little hole to crawl into and then send nukes constantly as you seem to have no other life. Most of us do and cannot afford to play this game 24/7 taking c3's monotonously just to mute your attacks. In 6 or 7 months now you've landed what? 1 nuke on me...oh boy...HUGE deal...I'm so afraid, after only what? 50 decs? Great job...quite impressed. I'm not worried about myself, you are destroying this game in the ways Jojo noted above and also by making so many people with so much experience fearful of taking new players into their feds because they know that is the first place you'll hit. You don't fight me, Beast, Steven, Abe who are the people you claim to have a problem with, you fight EC, Serpent, Tendo, Beo and so many others who have nothing to do with you, haven't bothered you and haven't stomped anyone, much less weaker players.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 05:58 pm |
Yeah my wars are so meaningless you are begging for people to boycott me because you can't force w3c to to change a rule for her majesty WhiteGurl. My wars are more meaningful than your meaningless boycott.
By the way, you look good in high heels, I'm glad you've finally faced yourself. Itch, moan and whine some MOAR why don't you.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:23 pm |
C3 Warring isn't a new thing and Wendy isn't the first user of that system. I'm failing to see why that tactic is being pegged to a single person. Just happens to be the one currently using it effectively. If the system needs changing thats great, boycotts against a player isn't going to do that.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:36 pm |
Yes the system needs changing Xaldin - there are many current active threads discussing that very topic. However, that doesn't change the fact that people do not like Wendy and are asking for a boycott.
No, it won't change the system. Yes it will potentially cause harm to an enemy.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:58 pm |
Then just characterize it how it is, not cry about how I play. If you don't like me fine, I'm not going to waste time begging people to help me boycott someone while making excuses. It will take more than a level 1 to do any damage to me, and its all LuLz really, it reeks of desperation or for lack of a better word, attention.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 09:09 pm |
Yeah, let's separate the anti-Wendy sentiment from the anti-C3 war movement.
We need a good anti-C3 war slogan, or a song or something, for the movement.
| Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 09:24 pm |
How about "Glowing in the Wind?"
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 02:57 am |
Xaldin - This is not c3 warring that has gone on in the past, sure many players have employed this tactic but not consistently for the better part of a year on 3 different worlds against probably hundreds of different enemies at this point. I'd love to see Wendy's war win/loss record in her account...I'd bet she's lost at least 500 c3's in the past 8-12 months. That's considerably different than a c3 war with a purpose, that's c3 warring to screw people over. Just as EO and Jojo have both said, the system needs changing and hopefully we finally have the voices/votes to make that happen. Plus, don't give Windy that much credit, this 'strategy' has been annoyance, not some great success. She'll rattle off numbers of inactives that she has taken but anyone could have done so without resorting to c3 warfare.
Windy - No *I* could care less about you c3 deccing me, if you actually decd the people that you claim to have issue with then this really wouldn't be as big of a deal. However, your current demonstration on GR is a perfect example of what you're actual goal is, you haven't taken a single country from Abe/Steven/Rob/Homer, etc., you are taking GREF inactive countries/countries of weaker players or countries who have nothing to do with the war. Which is exactly what you did on LU, you get pissed off at me, you dec Serp because he was in the middle of deactivations due to being too busy to maintain his workers at that time, or EC, or whoever...even so, you still haven't taken a single country with your silly strategy...you've landed some nukes, all of your griping with me you would think that you've really showed me how tough you are...1 NUKE IN 6 F*CKIN MONTHS...seriously...I'm supposed to be afraid of you? Give me a break.
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:00 am |
Yet another Long Winded Post....
*Sighs* I think I'll call you Windy from now on.
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:01 am |
Validation is coming for you okay, settle down little one.
I LIKE WHEN THE TALK LIKE THIS *******
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:01 am |
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:36 am |
The best defense I have used against this is heavy AAMB and DMB then kill all O bases and O air bases down to one each. Leave one each alive. Then just keep attacking defenses at those two targets. A few times a day. You will catch some nice fish that way. They attack you and your D causes damage. You attack defenses at those two targets and you will kill ALL the offensive capabilities without spending much time or money.
bombers kills every LBCMB and CMB in the country and FP on the the O air bases kills all bomber and what not.
If your D is solid and you dont let them next to you, you'll hold with not much at risk.
just selectively kill what is placed in the c3's.
makes the aggressor continue to pump in more of THEIR assets. dont kill the c3's
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 06:21 am |
aamb? dmb? lbcmb? cmb? wth does these things mean
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 06:35 am |
aamb (anti air missile batteries), dmb (defensive missile batteries), lbcb (land base cruise batteries), cmb (conventional missile batteries).
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 08:00 am |
I agree Barney, but you aren't seeing what is actually going on here. These aren't wars that are about taking a country...there is nothing in these c3's except nuke batts and strat bombers. This isn't an offensive attack as much as it is a terrorist attack. She takes 2 or 3 c3's decs, sends nukes, then a couple hours later, 2 or 3 more c3's taken and then sends nukes....over and over again...for weeks at a time. There is no concern of losing a country and as I stated, in all this time only one nuke landed on me but many others were not as fortunate and because of that people like me and many others are not taking new players into our feds because it is those players that get attacked and let's just say that they aren't all so experienced.
She is 100% aware that she has no chance to take a country from me and I am completely unconcerned with it...which is why it isn't me she decs when she's pissed, it is other members of my fed...just like she is doing right now on GR, she's pissed at Abe (who isn't even in GREF) and Steven and Rob, so she took...Crabs country? Beo's country? Oh wait...those were inactive players...interesting...
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:17 pm |
LOL there he goes again he knows so much and Barney knows nothing. You can't see what he can see or know what he can know. He is one smart mouse.
Barney was the first to go through something with me, but you know everything.
Yeah everyone was inactive, if they were inactive I'd have the rest of their countries too.
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 09:17 pm |
Windy - You are fully aware that they are inactive, you have no ability to beat anyone else other than a nub.
As far as Barney goes, his suggested strategy was exactly the right strategy if you are being attacked by players with skill using c3's such as the war on FB a couple years ago now. What you do is far different, there is nothing in your countries because you have no idea how to do anything but press the 'Launch Nuke' button, in addition because you purposely take c3's as far away from where you are attacking as possible and in all random parts of the world, the strategy of just attacking bases and leaving the countries isn't very simple which you are clearly aware of.
Anyway, stop with the BS...you know you are full of it so just stop...step up and fight if you want to. I've made you 100's of offers at this point of a fight, you don't want it because you know you can't win it. Make all the excuses you want.
Plus, those players were inactive or they were not actively defending, the reason you don't have the rest of their countries is that Steven and Homer stomped you down as usual...doesn't take much, Windy: Worst Fighter with Experience in the History of SC. Seriously, show us that win/loss record...losses in the 1000's yet?
| Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 09:45 pm |
You are boarding me too death lol. Your endless itching is waistful use of space on the forum. Cry me a river WGurl.
Heaven forbid I don't make it easy for you to take a c3. LoL.
about 9 more days silly rabbit. If you are crying now, wait until it really pops off. "Something has to change Pt2?"
I'll send you a case of Cheeze. The Industrial Pallet Case.
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 01:26 am |
Yeah...make threats Windy...that'll do you well...you've hurt me sooooo much before...1 nuke in 6 months...what did we take from you? 10 20 mil pop countries? Impressive record...
As I've said before, I could give a sh*t less about your decs on me...but that isn't what you'll do, you'll dec people in my fed that you have no issue with and use your beef with me as an excuse. Classic coward move. If you think you're so tough and as you've claimed in your other BS posts that I haven't fought a single war of my choosing that would be a challenge...then come out of WP and fight...you think you're better than me? Prove it...one on one...same deal as always, you come out of WP and secured on LU, if I take every one of your countries before you take one of mine then you stay away from LU, if you can take one of mine then I'll hand you my empire. It's very generous...my LU empire has a nominal value of over $1000...should be more than worth the risk especially if you think you can win.
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 05:00 am |
You are boarding me too death lol. Your endless itching is waistful use of space on the forum. Cry me a river WGurl.
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 06:22 am |
Cry? Really, what am I crying about? I'm calling you out for what you really are and have stated about a billion times now that I could give two sh*ts about your decs on me...and I'm boring you...you're the one that won't shut up...you don't have to read my responses...in fact, please don't and in turn please don't post more bullsh*t and the problem is solved.
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 06:47 am |
You bore me.... silence mouse.
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 05:01 pm |
Well done Windy...make a point...I prove you wrong, then you tell me to do exactly what I just told you...brilliant...Idiot.
What's next 'Mama' jokes? I'm rubber you're glue? Sticks and stones?
| Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 05:07 pm |
The point is....
You are better off walkin through hell with gasoline panties than to mess with me.
| Friday, July 23, 2010 - 02:12 am |
Well yes that could be an issue. Killing an innocent merely because of affiliation!?
LOL, I cant really say much about that because I may have dabbled in that area a time or two. Guilty, guilty, guilty!
The largest flaw to this game has always been that those with a lot of free time can leverage that time in rather unpleasant ways.
Wanna fix something fix this...
market value for corps seems out of whack
Assets 272,016.00M SC$ Corporate assets
Market Value 2,659.99M SC$
How can this be? 276B in cash, no loans plus supplies at the ready and the market value is 2.7B?
| Friday, July 23, 2010 - 03:54 am |
i agree that market value is out of whack, when a corp makes 0.5B a game month, but has a 400B+ market value, doesn't really seem level
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 08:58 am |
Damned odd post LOL as DTA countries spend a fortune to keep up war protection to keep from getting raped by the MOB. Weird as hell that the MOB is complaining they might need war protection. I lived in Italy where the real MOB beat civies for cash.. you pay them or your business was destroyed. When WB & Serpent destroyed 6 DTA countries (unprovoked) when we started this game & then tried to sell our pop back to us we almost quit the game. Most players leave SIM when the MOB rapes them this way which has tanked the game. Now the MOB cries on the forum cause they need protection. LOL GAAAAAAAAAAAA there is a God & His angel is WENDY.
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 09:27 am |
Funny Zanzia, I have IP's and user names for all 20 of you 3 or 4's multi accounts, if you'd like I'll list them, hell I'll even coordnate them to your IP and ISP if you'd like. would you like a cookie, for being one of the most stubborn, as well as most revealing mutlis in the game? Hell Rob Kennedy has 3 accounts, but you dont see him posting on Threads like this...at least he's smart about his stupid decisions...
If you're going to be a multi...STFU and face the reality of, No number of accounts, will ever save you from what's bound to happen
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 09:53 am |
BTW when u see the mob, shed a tear let me know...i'll happily fund them with a tissue corp. sob your issues in your own hankie, or perhaps go back to 5 yrs old, and grab your blankie..
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 03:58 pm |
Broken, Not the 1st time DTA has been accused with that crap - we share a server - which in fact was hacked recently & reported. Good to know your abilities. In one game my personal pc was hacked twice & even bank accounts tampered with by a talented but all too serious player like you. Maybe u should concentrate on making schizophrenic country designs with your pretty cities & shiny factories, or just go on a date or take your meds from time to time. I bet wet tissue would make a dandy mountain range on yer map.
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 04:33 pm |
LOL good on you Zanzia.
As far as multi accounting, BA is all too familiar and there is a large consensus among players you think don't know that you BA have three accounts as well. In fact, you have been so clearly that people are quitting the game becuase of your obvious abuses of the multi account policy. Obvious Witch LMAO.
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:08 pm |
PS broken - ASGARD (who is in Florida) says if U hack anything - try the facebook accounts - there are pics of at least a dozon DTA on each account... but please do not send out or post phone numbers. We each used to get calls from players on another war game at odd hours asking for tanks & rockets etc. My personal fav was a guy named LIBIAN_TIME who would phone at 3 AM for missle launchers - I can imagine pentagon lights blinking. ASGARD says be nice to you cause he likes your designs lol.
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 06:50 pm |
Zanzia - You should really read the thread more clearly, the entire point of it is to eliminate war protection manipulation, has nothing to do with anyone in the Mob *needing* war protection, we're just fine, thank you very much. Also, please get your facts straight, I didn't even participate in the initial war against you, nor was it a Mob operation, it was Serpent, Keto and two others from FreeNations...and to be fair, if you are going to call your fed 'Death to All', don't be surprised if you get attacked...certainly isn't the name of an 'econ' fed.
In addition, please do not make generalizations about what players do when 'The Mob' attacks them, DTA is the only federation which the Mob has attacked as a group and that was in response to your initial declarations. Each member of the Mob has had it's own wars and wars involving one or two other members and the ONLY person who has left the game (although I'm sure he's still lurking somewhere) was Alarich. Aqua also left the game after a war with me specifically on GR but that was really due to a whole bunch of other factors, including Wendy...and I don't think anyone dispute that all he got was what was coming to him.
As far as multi-accounts, not something I see any reason for but I really could care less if you guys are or if BA is or if Steven is or if Wendy is...pretty meaningless ultimately. I do happen to believe at this point DTA is just what you say, a many person fed, but as I said, really doesn't make much of a difference to me nor any other member's of our fed.
Good luck in your continued build up.
| Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 11:18 pm |
WHITE BOY,I DON'T UNDERSTAND.IF YOU ARE JUST FINE,WHY ALL THIS PUSH FOR A RULE CHANGE.
| Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 01:38 am |
Because the rules as they have been set up are being manipulated, I think I've been pretty clear on that as have all the others arguing the same point. We all know what war protection was intended for so I don't need to repeat it again, it is being used in ways that are far different than it's intent so the rules should be adjusted to make sure it's use is limited to it's intent.
Zanzia's point in his post was that we were asking for war protection, which is not the case, we're perfectly fine without WP and have been for quite some time now, he knows that, no doubt he's been watching almost every one of our countries out of WP for as long as he's been looking.
| Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:39 pm |
Something Must Change.....
An interesting topic. One, I think I will comment on as these will be my parting thoughts. I think the Game Masters need to step up and take notice that multi accounts and player bashing under 'new names' is a problem. BrokenAmbitions, I would like to stand up and point my finger at YOU, whoever you are, as one of the biggest Multi's in the game. I have not in the 2 years that I have played this game or my observance for 2 years prior when a family member of mine played that chat has been such a farce since you came on the scene. Frankly I don't really care who you are, what you do. But I will state that you and your machinations and that of others have made it even impossible to recruit new players to federations or to teach the game. That is sad. Dun worry you will gain your world domination in the game when only you and your kind remain. lol All the other good players will finally open their eyes and see you and your kind for what you are, get tired of it and leave. Just like me. I know I'm not spending another penny of my money to play a game that is absolutely ruined, and what was once fun.
So for the record, I stand up and tell you to STFU. Practice what you preach. And know, that your day will come in the game when everyone will see you for who and what you are.
Farewell Simcountry. Thank you to all the decent players who play the game fairly and made the game so fun these past two years.
All my best,
Jan (formerly known as kissofdeath).
| Monday, July 26, 2010 - 05:14 pm |
Get the facts straight.
*quote* When WB & Serpent destroyed 6 DTA countries (unprovoked) when we started this game & then tried to sell our pop back to us we almost quit the game.
1) WB was not involved in the initial battle. Only after you guys sent decs did he or any other member of The MOb get involved, which is what fedmates do, just as your fed would do for you.
2) You had not just "started" the game. You and other fedmates had been playing for awhile, not sure how long but definitely not 'just started'
3) Who are the players that have left the game because the MOB has attacked them? Do you have any proof at all to back up those claims?
4) And we are not 'crying' for protection. We rarely use WP.
Im all for WP, if you dont want to fight then use it, but if you do want to fight, even with worthless c3's then you shouldn't be allowed to exploit it. And lets be clear here as well.... if you (DTA) would 'won' that war or gained assets because of it... would this even be an issue? Or would you be happy about the turn of events?