Proving a Point (Little Upsilon)

I spent a couple of hours today taking 20 c3's close to some of my biggest war slaves which are all in wp as is the custom nowadays. The c3's are loaded with nothing but forts and nuclear weapons however they will receive air support from my slaves, approx 320k ints total, that's without federation support and from just 4 of my 7 war slaves.

Since there are still so many of you holding out on the belief that stashing all of your assets in wp and terrorizing with c3's is a perfectly reasonable part of the game, I've decided to test your will. I mean, the system allows it as so many have pointed out, I may as well take advantage, I'd be stupid to risk any of my own stuff while f*cking with all of yours.

Perhaps we'll call it the Lupacolypse2. 20 c3's, 15 decs each, 300 total decs can be sent out, 300 nukes every 15 minutes. Plus, once I tag you a few times I'll just take another c3 in the area of

Whiteboy, I would suggest that your actions might be counter productive to your cause.

There are many of us that have consulted or suggested to the GMs that the war engine is totally broken (as is that population control engine - but that's another complaint).

But eventually, through decimating productive empires, all it will do is affect the global economy and mechanics in such a way that it causes players to pull out their credit cards and purchase gold coins. This lends to greater revenues for the 'the company' of simcountry.

But I am sympathetic to your complaints, I am just afraid that it may reinforce bad game design with revenue rewards.

Stop bitching....

Play your game, and stop whining.

Please use decent language on the forum.
Whiteboy makes a good point though and we're investigating a way to make things better.. Being able to protect yourself completely while being able to attack full force is wrong and will be fixed asap.

No problem Jonni, please excuse my french.

I wouldn't consider c3s 'full force'. I can't say that I have ever taken a country from Him with a c3.

Equally opposite points have been made in opposition as well. Where is the conversation on that?

His point is that he doesn't want to fight a war that he cannot dictate the pace of. So he doesn't want to fight the way others would fend him off.

Others don't want to fight the way he chooses. Yet they are forced to OR buy WP. Now those who don't want to get ganged up on and choose to buy WP are now faced with adjustments to wp, because again, his greedy little eyes cannot stand to see people with valuables he cannot raid.

C3s are one thing and a valid gripe, but removing WP too? Have you guys thought to stop and wonder what HIS interest is in taking WP away from those with valuable assets that make an intelligent choice to protect them

I think I proly got a tad bit upset at this the most.

"Please use decent language on the forum."

And not becuase you told me, I agree. %100

I just think using the word as an adjective wasn't so indecent. But of course you are correct. Kinda weird when it has been used by several people as a proper noun for at least the last two months, and no admonishing whatsoever. Maybe you guys don't read the forums often.

FYI, this was a joke, it was a post to prove a point but the c3's are for worker exchanges as I'm working on leveling up to 14 or 15 and am having to adjust quite a bit. If I was going to do something like that I wouldn't be dumb enough to have all the def/off indexes showing ;)

I have no intention of starting a bunch of c3 wars, but I do think it's important that everyone understands that ALL of us can use these kind of tactics as long as the rules remain the way they are. It's easy to stand on the sidelines and say it's not a big deal, but when you're subjected to it you get a much better understanding of just how wasteful it is on one's time and resources. If things continue on this path players like me who don't care as much about the game as they do about having fun destroying stuff will choose this option.

I possess no 'hidden' knowledge or know of no glitches, what I do possess is

Fight smarter, not harder.

I know it was a joke, that is why you took all those c3s...

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Windy, if you read the posts in the general forum under "war", you would see that w3c is giving us players to come with ideas to make the war engine alot fairer than it is.
We need to give the defender a better chance of preparing for war, and also the attacker needs to put more on the line when attacking others.

I can get into it more, but go to the other forum and read and post your thoughts there.
P.S.- keep the vulgar language to yourself.

Do you ever read a message?

I took the c3's for exactly the reason I stated, you know, right after the part where I said, "I was joking". I need workers idiot...

That's the other part of this, 20 c3's for me, not that much effort, I know what I'm doing...have done it 100's of times and I've got boatloads of weapons burning a hole in my pocket. I could take 100 in a day no problem, so if I did decide to become like you, interested in nothing and no one other than myself, I could REALLY mess stuff up, I guess that's another benefit of your incompetence.

I know more about this game than you'll ever know, however I'm not incompetent so I don't have to make excuses for my incompetence like you do, you always have some excuse for why you suck so bad, why you can't fight for sh*t, it's glitches or I don't have enough assets or there are too many of them...it's all BS.

I will post wherever I feel pleased to post Keto. Thanks but no thanks.

WB, make whatever excuses, all you need is more cheeze, it will help help you occupy your time.

I don't care if you take c3s or don't take any. I won't becrying to the GMs about anything. Tommi, how many emails do you have in your inbox, in my entire gamespan? NONE

I deal with my problems on my own, for myself, by myself. No whining to the gms.

I suck at fighting? Well I have said before and I will say again, there is no need for me to fight some coward who has raided an empire when I have taken time, months actually building my empire. "Skin in the game" ... Right you have very little.


Now where is that battle world. GMS you guys said you would do it, I would love to be able to put bigmouth in the dirt with a fair game, instead of hearing all this nonsense about changing this or that. If half the time wasted on thi

You're a joke...I've offered you a one on one fight about 50 million times by now...you haven't taken it because you know you've got no shot...stop talking big unless you're willing to back it up coward. My left pinkie is smarter than you, give me a break, such a joke...

Right, I know how the system works.

I am not anyone you have fooled before.

Cry for the battle royal world, I told YOU when they said it was going to be done, your up to bat.

All this wish wash about fair this and fair that, BS.

WGC offered you guys a fair 5 on 5 on WG, and you all didn't even have a personal beef, yet you declined.

Its all about a rake. Nah, I haven't been that stupid since I was in the second grade. See you on the battle world. Or c3 hopping. Good Luck with those.

WB, you aren't smart at all really. You show us everyday. Keep talkin.

sigh.... is it me or is this soooo obvious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNqeZVL_ZHE&feature=related

Windy, I own you. That's all that needs to be said, everyone knows it, even you.

Hi there

Sorry to interrupt the ranting but I am new to this game and was wondering what exactly it is that you are ranting about? Honestly I read the whole thing and have no clue what any of it means. It does seem to be something I should be acquainted with however - could someone message me in game and explain?

Also, One question - isn't Fearless Blue a war world? Why not just fight it out there? or is that part of what I am missing?

I just realized I never addressed Caesar and Jonni.

Caesar - I agree, however there is a tipping point for everyone, I haven't reached mine yet, when I do everyone will be aware without a post on the forum. Let's just hope I don't bring the cavalry when I do because they are anxious and disgusted with the state of things. Very few are standing up to the BS that is currently allowed and going on in which certain players are taking advantage of to the worst extent, remember:

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Jonni - The understanding is appreciated and I

Just saw your message Josh, your response is classic, just the way one would think things should be settled if one had any common sense. HOWEVER, that isn't how the game works, I'm more than happy to explain it, msg me at 'WB 001 LU HM Econ' on LU.

I openly admit that I am not a war master. But I believe there are 2 things that can be done to help "balance" the war game.

(1) Special Forces units should not be able to "paint" the terrain. Granted, special forces are highly skilled and motivated warriors, but they are not going to own the ground. Just maybe blow-up highly valued targets.

(2) The system be set up, for a lack of a better term, a "coalition". Say I become suicidal I start a war against one of WhiteBoy's primary states. I first set up a 'coalition consisting of my states that will engage in this war. The leader of the coalition should be required to be of at least a certain value compared to whom is being attacked. Maybe 50%?

Just a thought.

WB has highlighted the uselessness of using 50% of population out of WP as a requirement to war. Most anyone could take 20 C3s, say 200M population, and so have 3 good countries with all of their assets still in WP, and continue the C3 war style as before.

Crafty, the 50% I was referring to was not related to population.

In my suggestion, the leader of the coalition would be required to have a value of at least 50% of that of who is being attacked. I would require someone to use a developed country to take another developed country. And I purely admit that I do not know what a good value could be in this kind of scenario.

I believe it would help with 'grief players'.

Yeah Caesar Ken, mine was a comment in general, population was mooted as a control factor at one point.

I'm not sure what my opinion counts for, but I'm in favor of empire-wide war protection (all protected or all open) combined with an inability to declare war on C3s while in empire-wide war protection.

I gotta say I love this whole backround story to this. It is just great!

On the other hand, rember this is a game. What you do and how you do it depends on your goals. If you shoot yourself in the foot, you shot youself in the foot. Ruined the game for some else? Well I guessed you might of.

Who is who to say how you should make it big or small? Honor and Fairness are all in you heard. You can cry all you want sometimes and not a single thing changes. Most things are out of our power. I say let WB wage his c3 war. (I don't even know what c3 means.)

I would not care one bit. Instead of growing off eachother and trading become selfsufficeint. Idoubt i even got the topic of this Forum, but did I really have to? Most of this is politics and if you can make it as one here why not get a full time job as one?

Remember this is a game. Lighten up a bit.
If WB comes and razes you remember that. After he does that