NLUO- An Isolationist's POV

[this thread is meant to attract those still undecided or on the fence about the NLUO to it, as well as express one Isolationist's point of view]

Comrades,

First, let me say welcome to the NLUO, the recently established government seeking legitimacy on a world stage. I myself am a new member, as are nearly all of us, and therefore I take it upon myself to help promote political alignments, and obviously I plan on promoting my own.

Let me begin by stating a simple fact- in a short period of existence, it had become evident to me that the Expansionist Party is indeed expanding. Before you jump on board with the War Mongrels (as I endearingly have begun to call them) consider just how they will effect the chances at (1) establishing the NLUO as a legitimate world governing body; and (2) how they will manage to [or fail to] maintain control of the world once it has been established as the g

Has everyone forgot that this is a game?

It was a really good one, much fun, and strategy too. War and peace was a major part of it.

Part of the game is roleplaying as governments. I am having fun.

Great. It sounded like you were being just a bit too serious about it. Rock on.

Nice speach. But how can you play as isolationist in the NLUO when the very nature of it seems to be interventionalst?

It's the war Mongrels as you call them that will give your organization weight. Let's face it, why would any country listen to you's if you have nothing to back up your words?

Wow. This Isolationist thinks he has all the answers, as most of them think they do. Promoting strong military presence within the federations, and having nations know that if they step out of line, the NLUO has the capabilities to pass legislation for war. Wars are fought to show the superiority of the nations or federations who fight them. If this government can not wage war on a nation who is aggressive towards the NLUO world government, then there is no reason for the government to exist. Hard Power always works better than soft power in instances of aggression. Now these Isolationists would have you believe that using soft power all the time will help stop wars, when in fact it will start wars because nobody will think twice about even going to war and the diplomatic process would have to start. War mongers, yeah right Iso.

I'm thinking that if more powerful players participated as a representative of their secured country's region(not representative or proxy of NLUO) then I think it is a good alternative to an impotent security council.

It would also create debate between players involved and allow for promotion and cooperation to stimulate player interaction.

The short-sightedness about not having any muscle is invalid. Even if Hezekiah and 5 other players had the largest and best armies, they would still be at the mercy of the community.

NLUO is about promoting COMMUNITY, not military might. A collective cooperation could lead to a formidable military force even in the absence of super armies. The collective contribution to a particular undertaking could quickly eclipse even the hardest war players.

Somehow, it strikes me as odd that more people who have stayed through this rough patch have not taken the opportunity to p

I am speechless Wendy. You have shut my mouth.

Some parts of your speech I do agree with. Such as the part about the EOs. I agree that EOs should not be arbitrarily used. In the hands of an inexperienced Secretary General can be dangerous. I for one would like to set up legislation to have the constitution amended when it comes to EOs. The Secretary of Justice would generally check this power along with the LUICC. It would probably depend on what party the SOJ would be apart of. Another part I would not mind coming across the Isle to negotiate is the oath. We as a party don't want to be seen as blood thirsty barbarians because it is not good for our image to say the least. So.. those things I agree, but the over ideology of the Isolationists is flawed to say the least, with their party for the nations and growth propaganda. Let them get in power, and see how this government becomes a none relevance.

Now that TE government is fully operational, I will address all the posts in the coming days.

The Isolationists ideology is the ideology of any descent God fearing man. It is you wild beasts, the Expansionists that give this government a bad name. You all make the government as a brand, like haliburton, or even Blackwater. You continue your propaganda campaign. Consider this my coming out party Hezekiah. Viva La Isolationists!!!

quite the partisan operation you guys got......you asked when. has war helped the economy Carthaginian well ww2 arguably lifted the world out of the great depression although some attribute it to the manufacturing of the toaster

just wondering how many nations are in this world order that has been established

25 Mr T.

In short please, can anyone explain the main principles behind these two ideas.

Expansionist
Isolationists

And are there any other political factions so far?

SweetPea,

Basically Isolationists focus on the economic growth of nations to attract members and keep order while the Expansionists use the war game.

Now that explanation is really interesting while applied to the game. Very nice. It pretty much sums up how this game is played.


I guess I would be classified as an expansionist then huh? As far as I am concerned, when I apply how I actually play the game, I would have to say I am an Isolationist.

• I don't generally tag up with players and large feds to fight wars.

• I find too many participants to be an added liability.

• I especially value OPSEC, which has become very important for some not so obvious reasons.

• Too many participants add too many variables into the equation.

SO this is where you can find the econ nerds. minus Wendy of course.

I'm actually quite the econ nerd in real life that is, and I do pretty well here in sim too. Even though I put on a mask of simpleness.

Let me add an EDIT to offer some econ nerd calls.

Fannie Mae, common stock is about 27-/+ cents as I type this.

Thanks to the FED buying up Mortgage backed Securities for an indefinite period to support the housing recovery, this stock is at a premium bottom. 20Cents is a strong psychological level and the 2012 low. Before the crash that exposed the housing bubble, this stock was a mind-frakking 65.00USD.

Even if this stock tanked to 10 cents or lower, just owning a significant volume of this stock, could literally retire you when it returns.

With the feds actions and stated intent to prop up the housing market until a more organic recovery reveals itself, this stock, is a once in a lifetime oppo

Sounds like a hedge fund... lol...

um... what is NLUO?

It's a type of watercraft.

Aug Uste. If you read around the forums, you will find out what the NLUO is.

i would be curious? what is in place to enforce protocol within the alliance as a whole. after all, it would seem you all disagree on alot of things. well, lets say the isolationists are voted into power? what will enforce the legislature that will no doubt come into play as a result of their ideology. if all the military power exists on the expansionist side, i would wonder, will anyone be willing to stand on the side of the isolationists to enforce the rule of law? in essence would there be an expansionist willing to stand against his or her own party for the sake of the NLUO as a whole?

let me be a little more clear about what I am getting at. I am not an Isolationist, at least not completely anyway, in that I believe that there is a time to fight for a just cause. I also do believe in the importance of an international community that works together to create a free and sustainable world for all. I believe in the rule of Law, to where it does not infringe upon the freedom of others to live their own lives, and their right to protect themselves and their interests. however, It must also protect the lives and interests of its own commonalities. that being said, I believe their is something called universal Justice. pertaining to things such as Genocide, environmental instability, the inhumane treatment and oppression of other human beings. things that can not go unchecked and unhindered. things that are bad for everyone universally. this would require on some level a peace keeping force, or a global military of sorts. this is exceptable. ho