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Little Upsilon Executive Election January 7, 3088

Topics: Little Upsilon: Little Upsilon Executive Election January 7, 3088

King Herod VI

Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 08:32 am Click here to edit this post
I am announcing my candidacy for Secretary General of the Little Upsilon World Government. There is a 2 party system in this government. I am an Isolationist. Here is the rundown on the idelogies you have to choose from my fellow Little Upsilonians

Expansionist Party: This political party's platform is an aggressive platform. They believe in an aggressive role for the NLUO in the governing of Little Upsilon. They put focus on the Federations, and the Security Council. They help build up the federations to have a strong military presence in Little Upsilon. They put great pressure on the LU Security Council to pass resolutions for war against any agressive behavior by nations who go to war without consent of the NLUO. The NLUO Secretary General has the most power in this political atmosphere. Through this Party the Secretary General will be free to issue executive orders if the LU Security Council does not act on any issues that should arise. They believe that the NLUO should play a dominant role in the security of Little Upsilon. Generally this party does not focus so much on finance. They believe that through an aggressive foreign policy, the world Economy will take care of itself. Generally the State Department, LU Security Department, and Justice Department have a great amount of power in an Expansionist party Administration. They rarely pass Foreign aid budgets. Instead they prefer to use foreign aid as a precursor for behavior modification of nations. This administration limits the power of the Justice Department, and LU International Court, and uses the LU Security Council for passing resolutions etc. In all this party wants to expand the control and domination of the NLUO on Little Upsilon.

Isolationist Party: This political party's platform is a more passive platform. They believe in a more non interventionalist role for the NLUO in the governing of Little Upsilon. They put more focus on finance, and helping nations to build their economies. They believe in non intervention in times of war. They would rather pass economic sanctions on nations who are overly aggressive. As long as a nation is not causing any harm to the global economy in their endevors, this political party's administration takes a non intervention stance on war. They don't believe the NLUO should be used as a war tool for control, but rather economically help new and banrupt nations repair their economies. They send resolutions to the LU security council for Economic aid to countries. The Secretary General submits foreign aid budgets to the LU security council. Generally in this adminstration, the common markets are built up, and they believe this will bring security to Little Upsilon. The Treasury Department is generally the most powerful office in this administration. The Secretary General is usually pressured not to use Executive orders in this administration. The Justice Department is used in this administration to contain the power of the Secretary General, State Department, and LU Security Department. This administration also uses the LU International Court more than the Lu Security Council in this Administration. In all this party wants to play a more behind the scenes role for the NLUO on Little Upsilon.

Now that you know the Ideologies. I want you to think about them, and find out what ideology do you want ruling your world.

I know I am a noob. I have been in 1 war. I have a premium account, but been here since 3052. I am the current Secretary of LU Security. I have done my job well. I helped facilitate 2 Trillion SC$ to a nation who suffered a massive earthquake. King Lord Lee, was the Security Council member who set up the vote for the aid. President Prizepack joined the Little upsilon World government because of me doing my job and being active. I also helped 9 nations get premium accounts. I ask Hezekiah how I can get info on a referal for sim country, you know what he said, and I quote " I don't know" But come to find out he is linked up to simcountry for referral bonuses. Is this a leader we want to lead us for 40 more LU years? Again, I know I am a noob, but I am honest, I accept critics, praise, the whole nine.I am not a chairman of a fed or common market. I am not a justice on the LUICC or a legislator. I know the game, and I know this government. I ask humbly for your vote LU. We have 16 more years until the elections. I just want to post a platform. Herod the Isolationist for the truth and true justice.!!!

King Hezekiah II

Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 02:23 am Click here to edit this post
I am running against King Herod (I-Nation of Edom). I have a proven record. I am one of the founders of the Little Upsilon World Government. I have organized a cabinet in my administration, and motivated these departments to function within the game, and within the World of LU.

Our Treasury Department is on its way to being the source to come to when there are issues with the world economy. This department will eventually have the power to influence the game masters, and receive information on any changes that will affect the World Economy.

Our State Department underwent some changes in approach, procedures, and management, but survived. The World government was faced with pushback from None Aligned Nation who do not want to see a world government. They started a federation called Hydra with the sole purpose to destroy the LU World Government. During this crisis our Secretary of State was forced to resigned due to conflict of interests. There was a new Secretary of State quickly installed, and a Department of Defense Democratically created, and was signed into law. I have signed legislation into law. I also issued an executive Order for war against the NAN Hydra Federation due to threats of war, and this calmed the situation. 3 federations quickly moved into position, and also caused a federation to drop out of the government.

So, in Conclusion. I am a veteran player and Nation. My nation was destroyed 4 years ago. I was only able to obtain 5 nations before my empire was destroyed. I have proven my management, and organizational skills. I admit I am not good at diplomacy, and my words are a little ruff at times. This is why you must have a great Secretary of State, and I am blessed to have a partner in that regard. I also reach across the Isle to help in decisions. I have 2 Isolationists in my administration, and my Secretary of State is an Isolationist.

King Herod on the other hand started out as an Expansionist, and flipped to an Isolationist. A flip flopper, on the most fundamental aspect in politics, and that is your political ideology, and affiliation. He has tried to overthrow my administration, via Brother Leader Gaddafi trying to impeach me because of the war with NAN/Hydra. So, if you want a leader who is a flipflopper, then cast your vote for King Herod.

shave

Monday, December 24, 2012 - 04:13 am Click here to edit this post
the Polarian Republic endorses the candidacy of King Herod VI and would ask all those within the body of the NLUO to consider the kind of changes necessary to give your governmental body credibility within the international community. whats it going to be fellow LU countries. though I do not consider this body to be the sole governing body of LU, I do suggest that it will influence the direction of world affairs to a degree. under expansionist rule it would seem war is a likely outcome, judging the language of its current leadership. however you the people of what could become a great world partner. a positive addition to the international community. you possess the power to change the outcome of this emboldening situation between the free countries aligned against what is becoming a violent dictatorship. it is the hope of the Polarian people and its allies that you choose an alternative to war. an alternative to this diabolical dictatorship that is forming before our very eyes! :)

Carthaginian0

Monday, December 24, 2012 - 10:51 pm Click here to edit this post
Carthage also throws its full support behind the Isolationist candidate Herod, whom we believe can indeed govern the NLUO the way it is supposed to be governed, and who has shown a knack for diplomacy within the ranks of the NLUO Hezekiah has failed to show.

Carthage, if it could vote today, would do so. I encourage anyone with questions to pipe up.

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
The Election is going on already? Things move pretty quickly. I read that nobody supported my call to impeachment, and I also saw that there was no impeachment law as of yet. My mistake. This does not take away the fact that I no longer support you politically King Hezekiah. I am also a flip-flopper because I to did not know that you would take this approach to governing. With me being the Brother Leader of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, you know that we are not a violent country, and prefer an Isolationist point of view. I do appreciate your nomination to the Chief Justice Position in the government, but I am an Isolationist, and we now hold the Majority in the Joint Chiefs, Common Market Legislature, and the LU International Court. Do you really think this wave is not going to take the Executive Administration out of the hands of the expansionists into the hands of the rightful heirs, the Isolationists. My son, be not deceived in your mind. I throw my full support behind King Herod VI for Secretary General!!!

shave

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 02:52 am Click here to edit this post
Ahh yes! there may be hope yet for this planet! :)

shave

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 03:11 am Click here to edit this post
If you are wondering what can be expected for the next term under King Hezz's rule why not read a paragraph from his history in politics and what he deems as necessary policy for world domination, and how he intends to gain your approval! sort of a not with a Bang!, but with a Whimper solution if you will.


OCTOBER 28TH'08: Voting started on the resolution to pursue the War on Terror as a Foreign Policy. King Hezekiah believes that using the war on terror,
the people, and countries of Little Upsilon will be happy to help our agenda along as long as it is under the banner of the War on Terror. King Hezekiah: I think that is is the perfect policy to move forward our cause at a rapid rate without a lot of resistance.

What kind of diabolical scheme is he up to this time? history is about to be repeated my friends! please step up to the plate and do the right thing before its too late. he obviously believes that you all are too stupid to govern yourselves if he would put out this kind of information for you to read right in front of your faces. we are talking about a sociopath! I beckon the people of this great planet! act now! before it is too late! vote Isolationist! :) before you are labeled a terrorist!

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 04:25 am Click here to edit this post
This was 4 years ago. I have changed a lot in those 4 years. The government doesn't even work the same as it did then. You can't use my past against me. This is not how you look for the good in people. This is judgment.

Keto

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 04:00 pm Click here to edit this post
King, I believe they are judging you by how you handle yourself today and since your return.

shave

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 07:00 pm Click here to edit this post
This was 4 years ago. I have changed a lot in those 4 years. The government doesn't even work the same as it did then. You can't use my past against me. This is not how you look for the good in people. This is judgment.

He says he has changed? lol what a laugh! since the beginning of this systems rebirth he has done nothing that says he has changed. in fact his whole platform and its defining attributes are based on a war mongering and dictatorship mentality. the very definition of the word Expansionist says it all. he was a Tyrant then, and my friends he is a Tyrant now! I would say this, It is not our job to look for what hezz calls the " good " in him. it is our job to protect our peoples from a dictatorial government and its policies of world suppression. sure it might resemble a form of democracy for now. but that is only as secure as the legislation that binds it together. and if history has taught us anything my friends, its that legislation is just a matter of the wielding of a pen. and the one who possesses it! reelect this Tyrant, and the people of LU will become Slave nations to KING Hezzekiah!
:)

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 07:18 pm Click here to edit this post
tough Crowd!! A bunch of Isolationists.

Keto

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 07:31 pm Click here to edit this post
"tough Crowd!" lol, maybe u should change your ways King. You might be pleasantly surprised!

SweetPea

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 07:34 pm Click here to edit this post
What way is it that you propose he change Keto? Should he play the game with no ambition, rhyme or reason at all, or just one that some players approve of? Which is none.

Crafty

Friday, December 28, 2012 - 05:16 pm Click here to edit this post
A less irritating way might be a start...

just saying.

King Herod VI

Monday, December 31, 2012 - 04:27 am Click here to edit this post
With all of the negative attention that the NLUO has been getting lately, I want to assure the LU community that if I am elected Secretary General, there will be a kinder gentler NLUO World Government. All of the Secretaries are elected by the people, so they will stay in their positions if I am elected. I want to call a meeting with all of the secretaries to move us past the policies of domination, and warmongering. We will acknowledge all nations, governments, NGOs, CEOs, Feds, and Common Markets. We will also respect all artificial borders anyone on LU decides to set up. The only role for the NLUO should be for the facilitating of growth through cooperation by economic means. Not through domination of the world militarily. All that does is make us seem as if we are nothing but a war mongering power grabbing paper dictatorship. In order to be a viable government, we must show love and respect for all walks of life. I ask for you vote.

Alyan Locien

Monday, December 31, 2012 - 05:13 pm Click here to edit this post
So... when is SweetPea up for election?

King Hezekiah II

Monday, December 31, 2012 - 10:05 pm Click here to edit this post
why don't you join the government and look at official status.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 2, 2013 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
If you want to vote here for your candidate for Secretary General click this link, or just copy and paste the link. scroll down to the pics of Hezekiah and Herod, and click the button for the candidate you want to vote for, and then vote. The votes will be tallied and announced at the end of January 7, 3088. Voting starts now. You have until January 7, 3088.

VOTING BOOTH: Click or copy and Paste: http://nluo.webs.com/nluo-election-center

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 2, 2013 - 05:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Executive Administration Election for Secretary General:

Incumbent: King Hezekiah II (E) Israelite Empire (7)

Challenger: King Herod VI (I-Nation of Edom) Votes (10)

Voting ends January 7, 3088.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 2, 2013 - 11:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Executive Administration Election for Secretary General:

Incumbent: King Hezekiah II (E) Israelite Empire (7)

Challenger: King Herod VI (I-Nation of Edom) Votes (14)

Voting ends January 7, 3088.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 2, 2013 - 11:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Come nations of LU Vote!!!!!

King Herod VI

Wednesday, January 2, 2013 - 11:51 pm Click here to edit this post
lol. Yes come on LU vote!!!

SweetPea

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:15 am Click here to edit this post
Am I looking at the wrong vote Hezekiah or what because the results on the page look like this


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In this case Hezekiah is winning and that looks like a good turnout from LU Players. I'd have to credit the haters for bringing so much attention to the NLUO. I hope the growth continues and I encourage all presidents of LU to engage the NLUO and get involved in your game World.

Mizore

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:58 am Click here to edit this post
Really, I see 86 to 38 in favor of Heze. It's only been an hour. More like 45 minutes.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post
Wow, I'm wondering what is going on then. Jeebus!

It is very possible that we're looking at different votes. This has to be sorted out though asap. I'll keep you posted if I get any concrete info to report.

Stephen Ryan

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 09:43 am Click here to edit this post
Seems jack septic is still a member of the NLUO

SweetPea

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe he came to his senses and chose not to be a sheep. I hope that is the case.

Crafty

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 06:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Did I not suggest you should have an independant invigilator?

Unfortuneately, it would now seem any shred of credibility in your voting system has been demolished.

Keto

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:16 pm Click here to edit this post
haha

shave

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:26 pm Click here to edit this post
funny i saw 210 Hezz to 114 Herod, that is after i voted like 20 times lol, this election is obviously rigged! ROFL you will never get a real number. im betting Herod has it, not that Hezz will ever alow that to be truthfully seen as im sure he is the one that actually took the time to re vote a couple hundred times over. ROFL. :)

Lorelei

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:26 pm Click here to edit this post
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm if Jack is still in NLUO, perhaps then he should be looked at as a possible "wolf" in "sheep's" clothing.........if what you are saying is that Hydra and NONONLUO members are sheep!

Well at least we are all WARM AND FUZZY!!!!!!!!!!!

Lorelei

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh you know the election is a farce and will be rigged. You think for one moment Hezzy will ever lose hold of his tyrannical reign or that the ever sweet, SweetPea, will be ever sweet of tongue??? NEVER!!!!!!!! Then the game would be boring, there would be no further drama!

I dun think Hezzy and Wendy designed it to be a peaceful LU. :P ha ha ha ha

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Executive Administration Election for Secretary General:

Incumbent: King Hezekiah II (E) Israelite Empire (25)

Challenger: King Herod VI (I-Nation of Edom) Votes (19)

Voting ends January 7, 3088.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:37 pm Click here to edit this post
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Lorelei

Thursday, January 3, 2013 - 08:45 pm Click here to edit this post
<---------------Simcountry Girls says:

Vote NO to Hezzy for NLUO!!!

Yes to joining NONONLUO!

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 02:36 am Click here to edit this post
Lorelei,

Why don't you concentrate on your own organization rather than just criticizing others.

Lord Lee.

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 02:47 am Click here to edit this post
Lord Lee,

Get your panties out of your booty. Hezzy knows I'm teasing him. Gee Whiz!!!!!! Dun make me throw a shoe at you, cuz I will. AND I'LL LIKE IT!!!!!

Furthermore, ummmmmmmm I believe YOUR precious NLUO has been more critical of my organization that I have of YOURS. Dun make me smack you, cuz I will. AND I'LL LIKE IT!!!!!

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 02:55 am Click here to edit this post
For a start the "NO NO NLUO" is set up just to criticize The "NLUO" and has no other purpose!

If you really want to promote and be involved in world politics isn't it better you join "NLUO" and participate in the politics of Little Upsilon.

Lord Lee.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 03:05 am Click here to edit this post
well said Secretary King Lord Lee.

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 03:13 am Click here to edit this post
Lord Lee,

I would NEVER join the NLUO for one reason. I was attacked personally by a player within your group. I don't advocate that sort of play, therefore, I don't support those who condone such behavior in their group. It tells me how poorly managed the group is. Such a player would have been kicked from my fed for poor diplomacy and fed relations. I also will not play with bullies, and so far everything out of the mouths of your spokespeople has been nothing but ugliness and bully tactics.

So NO. I will never join the NLUO. Sorry. A few bad apples can ruin the entire image of the group. But let me clarify something. Hezzy does what he does for the sake of fun and drama. SweetPea is just pure meanness.

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 04:10 am Click here to edit this post
Lorelei in the UN countries fight each other but at least there's a platform for countries to work together and take appropriate action. The NLUO works in a similar way and if you are a member of the NLUO you can work out disagreements and the NLUO would investigate such hostilities and work with you to come to a satisfactory conclusion. If you were attacked by a hostile we would help basically put right the situation.

Lord Lee.

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 04:14 am Click here to edit this post
If you are interested in joining the NLUO please contact: King Hezekiah II or message him in game on Little Upsilon (Israelite Empire).

Lord Lee.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 04:19 am Click here to edit this post
Agreed. King Lord Lee. He sees past the propaganda.

Alyan Locien

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 04:36 am Click here to edit this post
Lord Lee.
yea, i tried that. Then i got bashed for being a free member of SC. O.o

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 04:58 am Click here to edit this post
Diplomatic relations can become strained in any organization Alyan, but we in the NLUO have procedures and protocols to ensure that members can work together in a positive way. Investigations can take time but that's because we have to be thorough. As you may be aware we have the Little Upsilon international court and it's all open for everyone to see justice in action.

Lord Lee.

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 05:09 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah II has worked tirelessly to keep the NLUO together as well as trying to please the international community which is no easy task.

He has put a lot of input into the NLUO website as well as bringing together some advanced players, again no easy task.

That's why I'm voting for King Hezekiah II to have a second term in office to build upon what he has already achieved.

Thanks,

Lord Lee.

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 05:18 am Click here to edit this post
We have been called insignificant, sheep, paper. Threats have been made to me and members of NONONLUO. I've not made any such threats to the NLUO.

One of your players even went so far as to take a conversation I had with her about a real life relationship I had with a player and used it as bashing material. That disgusts me, sorry, but it does. I have ALWAYS stood up against this type of game behavior, and I dun care if everyone here dislikes me for it.

I will not join the NLUO until SweetPea is stripped of her position/s and ousted from all facets of the NLUO and publicly denounced. Until then, I will stay happily where I am, with a group of players who are equally versed in the game.

Thank you, all the same.

Lord Lee

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 05:33 am Click here to edit this post
To Lorelei.

The NLUO is not just one player. It's an organization to bring diplomacy and and co-operation, and to help us all improve relations, gameplay, interaction, and justice to Little Upslion.

As I have said before members of any organization can have difference of opinion. You may have been called several unsavory names but you have antagonized the situation by openly calling yourself the anti NLUO instead of being constructive in your actions.

If you have an issue with a member of the NLUO then as a member you are entitled to bring the issues to the floor to be discussed and worked out. You even have the opportunity to vote on issues affecting you as this is a diplomatic organization.

Lord Lee

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 05:39 am Click here to edit this post
I respectfully decline, Lord Lee, but thank you.

Carthaginian0

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
I have a big problem with the vote count. Because you can vote more than once, and more people have voted than are on the site.

This is NOT good.

Keto

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 07:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Not good indeed

SuperSoldierRCP

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 08:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Hez has promised a fair election process
---and this is anything but---

This vote needs to be redone and limited, I don't know what's going on but I smell unfair and some sneaky pracatices

shave

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 08:23 pm Click here to edit this post
I guarantee you there is nothing fair about this corrupt system. these numbers are subject to multi votes, and then changed and made up at Hezz's Whim.
:)

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 08:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Surprise, Surprise. NOT!

shave

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 08:54 pm Click here to edit this post
infact i just went on site to vote, and I was not able to vote for Herod, but it would allow me to vote for hezz if I chose to.! now how corrupt is that. I hit herod and i get a notice that tells me 19 votes, with no option to vote. i clicked on hezz and it said 25 votes and i had option to hit vote for Hezz. whole thing is one big Sham! :)

Keto

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 09:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Now thats smells of corruption. Sorry to say this Hezzy but this is probably the last nail in the coffin for your organization.

Josias

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 09:20 pm Click here to edit this post
o he'll twist it. we can be assured of that!

Lorelei

Friday, January 4, 2013 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
NONONLUO is lookin' better n better every day!!!! Come one, come all, LU Presidents!

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 12:43 am Click here to edit this post
The whole thing is this, the vote was set up for nations who have multiple seats in the legislature to be able to vote according to the numbers of seats. You nations who are not even apart of the NLUO took advantage and messed up the vote. I figured something like that would happen, so I made sure to record the vote at 25 votes to 19 votes, and then set up the vote for just one vote. Herod agreed to the vote count. I will also email him, and have him also make a public statement on the matter. In another thread Shave joked about voting 20 times. I just wanted to show how you none NLUO supporters are not honest, but you want respect.

Lord Lee

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 12:55 am Click here to edit this post
Congratulations on winning the election King Hezekiah II.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 01:04 am Click here to edit this post
I thank you Mr. Secretary. We still have until January 7, 3088 until the polls close, but we think we have secured the win.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 01:10 am Click here to edit this post
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King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 01:10 am Click here to edit this post
Executive Administration Election for Secretary General:

Incumbent: King Hezekiah II (E) Israelite Empire (25)

Challenger: King Herod VI (I-Nation of Edom) Votes (19)

Voting ends January 7, 3088.

Keto

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 01:12 am Click here to edit this post
Sounds very one-sided to me.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 01:31 am Click here to edit this post
It is not one sided. Talk to your friends who came and damaged our election.

Crafty

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:11 am Click here to edit this post
How can it be justified that members can vote many times over King? This is what has been reported from your own members.

10/10 for effort.

1/10 for execution.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
The vote was set up for members to be able to have multiple votes based on the seats they have in the legislature. You have 3 seats, you have 3 votes. All other nations have 1 vote respectively. This was all based on good faith, and put it in the hands of the nations of LU, and Mizore, Shave, and others have joked in another thread that they voted quote "20 times..lol.." end quote. So, it is the none aligned nations of LU who always strike the first blow in dishonesty, and blame the government as if it was the government's fault they were dishonest. So, if the NAN would have been honest the election would have gone smoothly.

King Herod VI

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post
I want to come in Hezekiah's defense in this matter. I was monitoring the elections to make sure Hezekiah didn't cheat, but he is right. The election was tampered with by countries who are not apart of the government. I agreed to have the count stand at 25 votes for Hez, and 19 for me.


If you countries wanted a new Secretary general you have just killed your chances by tampering with the election. We had Chief Justice Gaddafi approve the measure because of this issue, which probably has ensured that Hezekiah will win re-election.

Thank you LU, your dishonesty has taken your change away.

Crafty

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:44 am Click here to edit this post
How did Mizore get to vote? Didnt you have to be a member to vote? I'm liking this intrigue.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:44 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks for coming out and saying that Herod. You alright.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Herod wanted us to allow all of LU to vote in the election. The vote is open to the public. You can go vote right now Crafty.

King Herod VI

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:47 am Click here to edit this post
I personally thought that all of the nations, countries, organizations, movements, feds, common markets, and all entities be recognized, and allowed to vote individually.

Keto

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:50 am Click here to edit this post
I think you should start the election over now that the "bug" has been fixed.
Only seems fair doesn't it?

Crafty

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:50 am Click here to edit this post
I did not realise that hez.

Without being condescending, I think your new approach to diplomacy is a great thing.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 02:56 am Click here to edit this post
I thank you for your observation Crafty.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
Keto said: I think you should start the election over now that the "bug" has been fixed.
Only seems fair doesn't it?

Here is my opinion on the issue. We all in the government followed the rules, and the nations who are not apart of the government took advantage of something they should have not even known. Why would you even try to vote more than once, unless you had prior knowledge? This means that they tried to vote again, and was successful, and then proceeded to take advantage and damage the election for their own personal amusement. Herod and I both have already agreed to a resolution to the issue, and it was approved by the Chief Justice of the LUICC. So is this not accomidating and fair enough?

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 05:57 am Click here to edit this post
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King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 05:57 am Click here to edit this post
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If you want to vote here for your candidate for Secretary General click this link, or just copy and paste the link. scroll down to the pics of Hezekiah and Herod, and click the button for the candidate you want to vote for, and then vote. The votes will be tallied and announced at the end of January 7, 3088.

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Voting ends January 7, 3088.

shave

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 07:20 pm Click here to edit this post
well allow me to answer your question then Hezz. i clicked more then once to see if it was possible for an obvious reason. that simply being that If i could do it, then you could, and im sure did do it. the system was flawed, if you wanted a fair election, you could have held it right here on the forum where it could have been monitored by the entirety of the international community where transparency could have been ensured. buy no, you naturally chose a method you knew was flawed and could be tampered with. leaving you right where you are, in power!....gee never saw that one comming. lol nice try Tyrant! :)

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 07:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Again you flip the issue. I told you why there was multiple votes available. Yet, instead of taking responsibility for your actions, you blame me, as if I have a stake in rigging the elections. I want this government to succeed, and if its own members cannot trust the government, what is the point of it to even exist. You nan people need to learn to take responsibility for your actions. We take responsibility for ours.

shave

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 07:29 pm Click here to edit this post
yea, again nice try Hezzy! lol :)

shave

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 07:37 pm Click here to edit this post
the problem Hezz is this. If you really wanted anything other then a Power Grab you have had so many chances to appease the international community, and go out of your way to be transparent in things. yet, time and again you choose not to take these avenues. you have a past that clearly tells everyone that you simply are a shady person in your policies and the way you interact with others period. you point fingers at the international community and blame everyone else because they dont trust you, and take necessary steps to check for checks and balances in what you claim is fair and balanced election process. well sorry Hezz it just isn't so! point Proven once again. :)

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, January 5, 2013 - 11:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I know it is hard to grasp on reality when you are so out of touch with the rest of the world, but we in the NLUO follow our rules, and respect all nations that acknowledge the government. We need to learn to accept responsibility.

Carthaginian0

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
I voted twice. I am not afraid to admit it. While I would prefer to re-do the election, I think that if we do let it stand, there needs to be a change to the process. I DON'T think anyone should be allowed more than one vote, but if they are, it needs to be declared both on the NLUO website and probably here. Then allow everyone a single vote and add the extras to the total. BAM! You have a fair election.

Mizore

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post
Heze, I don't think you cheated the election. I believe you if you say that you didn't know it could be abused.

However, I wouldn't have noticed anything were it not for the fact that 18 people voted for you in the short time preceding wendy's post.

If it was anyone's intention to ruin your results in order to get you elected, it is whoever cast these votes. This did, however, catch my eye. Otherwise, I would have strolled on by without caring.

My intention was merely to show that your voting system was fundamentally broken, which is why I pushed the votes so high.

To be honest, all this demonstrates is that you're a moron and herod is a pushover.

But really, this isn't all that important. It was just a little funny.

Jiang Hu Warrior

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post
we have a question?
If a nation or a group of nations doesn't acknowledge this world government view of NULO who WANTS TO CREATE this kind of international community with what appears to them as some kind of imposed dictatorship, will NULO accept responsibility to choose that those nations have the freedom to do as they so choose providing both parties stay out of each others way?

Carthaginian0

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post
As an individual entity (I won't speak on behalf of the NLUO, although I pretty much believe I do), the answer to Jiang's question is, and should be:

Yes.

Jiang Hu Warrior

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:50 am Click here to edit this post
the best way of action we can think of is all parties involved who have a vested interest in this debacle of a facarde , meet or come to a live chat discussion so they can air any greivence's then they can debate the course of action or inaction, then all can move on!

King Hezekiah II

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 01:19 am Click here to edit this post
I agree with Secretary Carthaginian0.

SweetPea

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Mizore, be truthful and insightful, report that I was the one who reported the issue initially, and those votes happened AFTER I posted the result I saw on the forum. It is more likely as you did following my post, that quite a few LU players went to the site and took notice to vote and/or report results. I'm not sure if you were trying to imply I voted multiple times but if you weren't my apologies.

And refrain from personal attacks, these are respectful players. you could have chosen better words to get that point across. I'll promise to try to post better if you do :) lol. We have a responsibility to set an example, no?

The Unknown

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 03:00 am Click here to edit this post
I would strongly agree

Mizore

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
The votes BEFORE your post are what tipped me off. The votes AFTER your post and before mine were my doing.

It could be anyone's multi-voting, it could be legitimate voting. My point was that quick rush of votes for Heze in a short period of time was suspicious and I confirmed my suspicions by voting twice... and made a joke of the vote by voting like eighty more times.

Jiang Hu Warrior

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
oh look our finger is on the trigger, our patience is starting to get real thin and im one really slow to anger

The Unknown

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 03:49 am Click here to edit this post
......

shave

Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 03:54 pm Click here to edit this post
I know it is hard to grasp on reality when you are so out of touch with the rest of the world, but we in the NLUO follow our rules, and respect all nations that acknowledge the government. We need to learn to accept responsibility.


yes you do need to learn to except responsibility. lol however i doubt you meant to say that. lol that being said, you say you respect those nations that that Acknowledge the NLUO? I think I could Arguably be one of the Nations of this great planet to acknowledge the NLUO the most Hezz. no one is in dispute of this governments existence. in fact the very fact that I have so openly pushed for change within your ranks is more then proof of that fact my friend. my problem is with Expansionist Foreign Policy. and its blatant disregard for the international community or its feelings about what goes on in this world. :)

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 07:34 am Click here to edit this post
I understand your concerns Shave, and they will be taken up. There are 3 general assemblies, and 2 state of the NLUO addresses. You can bring all concerns in those settings so your concerns can be shared with other nations, and we can all come to an agreement on any issues that we might have. Secretary Wendy generally will be the foreign policy expert, and speaking for our government this term.

SweetPea

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:13 am Click here to edit this post
Shave, I would challenge you to join the government and help shape the policy you feel is so misguided. This would be a desirable outcome for this discussion.

It will be very hard to change the government's views and/or operations from the outside. I hope you understand.

You can discuss any foreign Policy of the Expansionist Party here or on the NLUO boards without being an actual NLUO member.

It sounds like you would actually get along with Herod. You could join Herod in opposition to the Expansionist Party.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:48 pm Click here to edit this post
indeed, Ma'dam secretary, I agree 100% with you.

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 09:21 pm Click here to edit this post
well lets start right here! and I appreciate the fact ms, Wendy that you are obviously trying to bring the tone of the NLUO down to an exceptable level. that will go a long way with me, as well as my associates. however that being said, I am also a member of the Hydra alliance, a fact you King Hezz are more then aware of. while I will allow my associates to deal with Mr, Ryan's complaints of military posturing near his borders,a fact that is arguable to say the least and more like rhetoric to stir the pot, however, I cannot ignore the Blatant Hostilities Blurted out by King Hezzy this afternoon as they threaten the national security of the Hydra alliance as a whole. and do to the fact that no Nation was mentioned in any kind of a unilateral form, I must assume that you were also speaking to the Polarian Republic and its government as well.

Quote: Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm
Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator.

This does not sound like the language of a free Democratic society where the rule of Law presides and the people are free to elect their leaders and positively effect change. this kind of language sounds discriminatory in Nature, and is full of bigotry and Hatred and cannot be tolerated in a civilized world. once again we see the true Nature of the expansionist view and where King Hezzy is likely to take the NLUO in the future. you invite me to join? why would I? I would have no more ability to effect things then I do now. democracy within the NLUO is obsolete as long as that Kind of tyrannical and violent rule is allowed to remain in power. :)

Serpent

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Ive never been invited! :(

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 09:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Orbiter: Please send interst to "Good for Bad," on LU, your interest in joining the Hydra Federation.

This is a military alliance. designed to destroy the NLUO, or for any one on LU interested in being a part of a military operation, and no other reason.

Message my main,

Good for bad

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 09:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Serpent, join the site, you are hereby invited. We would also like to invite the Hydra federation and nononnluo into the government as well through the legislatures of the government. The reason I spoke in this manner is because Hydra was orginally created to destroy our government. No no NLUo was created in opposition to the our government. So based on those numbers we consider these organizations hostile. Now if these organizations would enter the government under democratic stances. The Seats in the legislature are based on the your nation vs the nations of the region. Hydra could without even looking pull at least 9 seats in the legislature, and have considerable influence as a federation, and as individuals. But I know this is just a hope, and probably will always be just that, a hope.

Josias

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:03 pm Click here to edit this post
we don't have to join your government to enjoy our own sovereignty, and safety.

now, how about removing those countries on my boarder?

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:03 pm Click here to edit this post
it is the position of the Polarian republic to consider taking Unilateral punitive economic measures against the Properties of King Hezzekiah. in the event that these obvious acts of aggression continue, the Polarian Republic would have no choice but to acquire the necessary CEO stasis and begin Hostile Bidding against the most profitable corporations of NLUO Industries. at its most convenient time. though the costs may be great these acts cannot continue unhindered. I hope you will fulfill your promise to allow all foreign policy to go through ms, Wendy as an escalation to this matter would become most unprofitable. :)

Serpent

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:05 pm Click here to edit this post
After yours and your fed's language, 'double talk' and multi play, I feel that your invitation is not sincere. Besides, I was making a statement not asking to join.

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:07 pm Click here to edit this post
thats exactly what I would do if it worked that easy! lol :)

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:13 pm Click here to edit this post
or does it? lol

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:14 pm Click here to edit this post
luckily I dont know much about how all that works! lol however keep pushing and i might be inclined to learn! lol :)

Crafty

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:15 pm Click here to edit this post
I know!...why dont NLUO join Hydra!?! What a brilliant idea! I surprise myself sometimes.

shave

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
AHAAAAA! so it does work that way! lol

Hez, you hostile bid me in the first place, so I took the corp back. Anymore nonsense from you and I'll bid on all your corps.

tread lightly! :)

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 10:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Crafty the NLUO is bigger than a mere federation.

Crafty

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 11:04 pm Click here to edit this post
In what way? The protectorate have secretaries of different departments, and like all mere federations, we have a voting system. In fact the voting is incorporated into the game mechanics.

But nevermind, it was supposed to be a light hearted throw away comment.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 11:06 pm Click here to edit this post
The federations fit inside the government via the legislative Branches.

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Silly rabbits.... Filthy hobbitzes.... Hydra rats....

See shave, that does sound like freedom, the freedom of speech. After all, we are a democratic organization.

The entire world of LU has been invited to join the NLUO since the day it was created, despite your own reservations. We cannot react to every player's whim on the outside of the structure put in place for them to bring their concerns. If you don't have the time or give the effort to go to the site and discuss your problems in the manner prescribed by the NLUO; then likewise it will be pointless and wasteful to think these differences will be worked out on the forum.

Hydra's problem with the NLUO appears to be the fact that they cannot force their ideas and influences on the NLUO from the outside. This is indeed at the root of their frustrations and aggression. Both misplaced as long as you make the choice not to participate in the government. You have only yourselves to blame for that.

The door has never been closed to anyone on LU.

Crafty

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:24 pm Click here to edit this post
??? Whoa...wait...back up Wendy. Hydra came into existance because NLUO were trying to force their ideas and influences on people who didnt want any part of it. Lets be honest about the history here, after all, its all in black and white on these very forums. NLUO were using presidents names in their lists that they had no right to. NLUO were presuming an authority over the whole of LU against many peoples wishes. And when you started throwing aggressive comments around, Hydra formed in response.

There ya go, all because Hez wouldnt recind his lists or apologise to people who didnt like being included without their say so.

So you cant say that is Hydras problem (who I am not a member of, and am speaking impartially about), it is NLUOs problem. They are the ones who dont like being challenged.

The door to Hydra is probably not closed to you either, participate in their govt. and discuss their reasoning, you only have to realise that NLUO is merely one of many groups in this game.

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post
well Said!!!!!

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:30 pm Click here to edit this post
You misspoke CC. The NLUO has no means or ambition to force anything on anyone. Simply repeating the accusation over and over never made it true.

The ONLY time the NLUO declared war on any group, was when Hydra was created and had an openly stated goal of attacking us with military. Never before or since has the NLUO passed any resolution for war, and there is not a single instance of the NLUO forcing anything on anyone.

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:33 pm Click here to edit this post
As far as Hydra's door being open to me, I respectfully decline. The stated goal of the Hydra, and that of the NLUO is so far apart I could never join an organization with the ambition it has.

It is true there are many groups, we co-exist with all of them in peace, excepting those that have taken it upon themselves to place their alliances against the NLUO backed up by military threat.

Crafty

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 05:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Thats not how Hez has come across in the past. He frequently made ill advised comments, and again I'll state how he refused to apologise for including people in his lists that didnt want to be included and weren't even asked. Bold faced assumption.

I will say hez seems to be more diplomatic now, more than likely a good outcome of having you be his mouth piece.

And, I have no right to invite you to Hydra, but I know Josias, Scarlet and keto to be reasonable people. So there is always scope there. But, you would decline right? good, that means you can understand why they decline to accept NLUO.

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 06:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, I really am not concerned with how they play or if they would join or not, just as long as it doesn't involve a military threat to any part of my game, we're cool.

Your perceptions of Hezekiah do not amount to the NLUO forcing anything on anyone. Let's not dance around that.

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 06:02 pm Click here to edit this post
CC, I represent the NLUO not King, he can and does defend himself well. This is great. I don't think I have enjoyed this game this much recently. Keep it going :)

Crafty

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 06:09 pm Click here to edit this post
May I have this dance Madam....?

I would like to know if I am alone in this 'perception'. I didn't think I was. But maybe, meh, like millions can agree on one thing but still be wrong I suppose.

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Waltz ok or something a little faster? Swing Perhaps?


There are always two sides of an issue. Two people decide to report an auto accident. Both tell the police their version of events as they occurred. The two reports have many similarities, but have several clear differences.

Both versions of the truth are valid given their unique perspectives.

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 07:11 pm Click here to edit this post
The Secretary is right as usual, and I do not mean to dip into this diplomatic conversation, as I am not authorized to do so. I just wanted to let it be known I read it, and agree with the Secretary.

The Unknown

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 07:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Well not really I would say if u do survive
The crash u can take it to court u know

So if u do get in accident. Best to have sum insurance

Just saying....

The Unknown

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I would to dance my dear
(*Takes Sweetpea's hand*)

The Unknown

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 07:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Love was supposed to be in there sum where

But u get the message

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 07:57 pm Click here to edit this post
lol

shave

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 08:33 pm Click here to edit this post
Silly rabbits.... Filthy hobbitzes.... Hydra rats....

See shave, that does sound like freedom, the freedom of speech. After all, we are a democratic organization.

ROFL......uh yea ok?

As far as Hydra's door being open to me, I respectfully decline. The stated goal of the Hydra, and that of the NLUO is so far apart I could never join an organization with the ambition it has.

the only Ambition Hydra has is the Defense of the free world! NLUO are the ones who came on to the world seen talking about world Governing, and you never made any distinction of those that wanted no part. infact Hezz'z remarks made it abundantly clear that it was to be forcefully all inclusive at that point. :) and yes crafty you are quite correct in your assessment of the situation.

shave

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post
We cannot react to every player's whim on the outside of the structure put in place for them to bring their concerns. If you don't have the time or give the effort to go to the site and discuss your problems in the manner prescribed by the NLUO; then likewise it will be pointless and wasteful to think these differences will be worked out on the forum.

are you kidding me? if we dont do it the way the NLUO prescribes it to be done, then its a waste of time? the forums offer a neutral ground for these matters to be discussed! I dont see you all making any concessions to Hydra in that way, or any other. you have a our way or no way mentality. that is exactly the reason so many have a hard time with this. and frankly i dont mind going to your site to discuss matters, but that doesn't make me one of your slave nations. :)

shave

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 08:57 pm Click here to edit this post
and so back to the question at hand b4 all the mumbo jumbo clouded the issue,

Quote: Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm
Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator.

Is the Polarian Republic to be Quote : Exterminated? end Quote. or is this simply NLUO Free Speech? :)

shave

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, let us See how your system works! as you have suggested ms, Wendy, I have prevailed upon your judiciary system and Pressed formal charges against King Hezzekiah for Threatening the Hydra alliance with such a gross display of aggression as Genocide . this despicable show of Hostility cannot go unpunished. The Polarian Republic will not stand for it! I have taken this course of action in good Faith that your Government will fairly act upon this with no sense of Partiality towards your own man. this is an opportunity for the NLUO to display itself in a manner that is befitting of what it says it represents. I trust i shall be contacted in a speedy manner as to a court date :)

Crafty

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 10:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Will you people stop bad mouthing the Hobbitzes.

They're not filthy, they are very nice people. One of them even saved mankind from the dark forces, evil.

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
lol

Carthaginian0

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 01:41 am Click here to edit this post
Shave-- Did you do this on the NLUO forums? Or where? I can't find it. :)

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:01 am Click here to edit this post
He posted on the Department of Justice forum, but it is not even a formal complaint. It is a comment.

Carthaginian0

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:10 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezzy-- I think we should still regard it with concern. Shave, if you will make a formal complaint, I will push to have it heard in court.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:27 am Click here to edit this post
i did, i filled it out in 2 places, one where Hezz stated and the other was a form at the bottom of the judiciary page or whatever it is. it had me put in my name, email address, and fill out a comment and it said you guys would get back to me soon. :) and i made it clear I was formally pressing charges!

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:37 am Click here to edit this post
I am the Chief Justice of the LUICC. I did receive your complaint Shave, and will consider the matter. President Carthaginian0 will act as the Secretary General's Public Defender. We will just have a fact finding hearing, and I will send King Hezekiah a summons to Court.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:37 am Click here to edit this post
I went into the main

The Little Upsilon International Criminal Court

and scrolled to the bottom and filled out the area where it says that
JUSTICES OF THE PEACE COURT CASE DOCKET
FILE THE CHARGES HERE AND A COURT DATE WILL BE SET UP. CASES ARE HEARD ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THE JUSTICES ARE ENTILTED TO DISMISS OR NOT HEAR A CASE FOR ANY REASON UNDER THE NLUO POLICES AND LAWS.
:)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:39 am Click here to edit this post
thank you sir!. :)

this is the threat he made!

Quote: Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm
Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:45 am Click here to edit this post
What the hell is this? Shave, why do you think you need to always jump and make all of these moves. Here is my question? Are you apart of our government or not, and if you are not apart of it. How can you even bring charges?

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Mr. Chief Justice, Why are you even considering this nation's request. He is obviously not apart of our government.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
ill see you in court Sir!

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
This is bullcrap!!!!

Carthaginian0

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:47 am Click here to edit this post
Hezekiah, please see your messages at Israelite Empire.

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:50 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah,

My Son, as an Isolationist, and as the Chief Justice of the world of Little Upsilon International Criminal Court, I must hear all nations concerns against all members of our government. The buck stops here my son.

I am sorry.

The Brother Leader, Mohamar Gaddafi

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:54 am Click here to edit this post
on behalf of The Polarian Republic and its people We thank the Chief Justice for his Prudent Actions in this matter. Perhaps there is Hope for Ties between the NLUO and the free Nations of LU! :)

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 02:57 am Click here to edit this post
I was fairly certain that you needed to be a member of the NLUO to press 'formal' charges against an NLUO member, and you also need a valid charge.

I would be quite annoyed to find anyone joining with the intent to cause internal strife and not become a genuine member of our community.

Not only that, but what Policy has Hezekiah allegedly violated if this is a valid charge in the first place?

More importantly, who intends to prosecute any judgement that may be prescribed here Colonel?

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:00 am Click here to edit this post
I frankly think this is the dumbest crap that I have ever seen being displayed. I spit on these actions. No No, I piss on these actions!!!

Carthaginian0

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
Wow. Very diplomatic.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
LU International Court: THE LITTLE UPSILON INTERNATIONAL COURT WAS ESTABLISHED TO HOLD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR POLICIES, AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THEIR POLICIES. THIS COURT ALSO OVERSEE CASES OF GENOCIDE, CASES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE. THE SECURITY COUNCIL MUST REFER ALL CASES OF CRIMES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE TO THE COURT. IF THE SECURITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO PASS A RESOLUTION THEN THE COURT MUST ALLOW THE SECURITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. THE COURT CAN NOT ISSUE ANY ARREST WARRENTS. THE COURT CAN ONLY ISSUE SUMMONS TO NLUO MEMBERS FOR THEIR MISCONDUCT. THE LU INTERNATIONAL COURT CONSISTS OF 5 JUSTICES: THE CHIEF JUSTICE, AND 4 ASSOCIATE JUSTICES. ALL JUSTICES ARE APPOINTED BY THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE NLUO. THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE 2 ISOLATIONIST PARTY MEMBERS ON THE BENCH AT ALL TIMES IF THE CHIEF JUSTICE IS AN EXPANSIONIST PARTY MEMBER, AND VICE VERSA. JUSTICES TERMS ARE FOR 100 LITTLE UPSILON YEARS, BUT THERE ARE NO TERM LIMITS


nowhere does it say that only members can file charges! and you do have laws concerning Genocide, and acts against heads of state! :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:04 am Click here to edit this post
and according to your own legislature your courts posess authority in this matter! :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
this man needs to be held accountable for his crimes! A threat of Genocide cannot go unpunished, these are crimes not against a nation, but indeed crimes against Humanity! :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:08 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah, Mr. Secretary General, Is this anyway for a leader to behave. I believe that if there is nothing done that constitutes punishment you will have nothing to worry about my son.

Why not give all nations a chance to use the avenues they believe will give them the justice in which they seek. This is no matter how small the matter. People don't come to court for no reason. They have a genuine concern, and most times if they are just heard in a formal setting people will be satisfied just to be heard.

To Secretary Sweepea's comment. I do understand that you must be apart of the government in order to bring any issue to the court, which is why I called it a "FACT FINDING HEARING". I do respect you Madam Sec and your power. I just want to respect all nations.

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:12 am Click here to edit this post
Fair enough. I think you should be wary of those only trying to start trouble. I ask you to use your discretion in finding out who those people are.

To be honest, given what Hezekiah has endured from these players, it is a wonder he has not done worse to them and I am appalled at his patience in the matter.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:13 am Click here to edit this post
In response to your inquiry maddam Secretary, The Polarian Republic has never officially been removed from its position within the NLUO community! this may be a technicality, but it is a legal one to be sure! :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:22 am Click here to edit this post
and not to worry maddam! I have no illusions that this will ever truly be given any real attention. I am only proving a point! and that being that even by your own rules and set up, there is no real leadership that will yield anything but the whim of a dictator and his body guard. for you to even suggest that there is the smallest hint of democracy within this government is a complete Sham! and that is sad I must say because there are some within your ranks that do want the real thing. and to you people, I am sorry you will more then likely never see it. although i am holding out hope that i will find i am wrong in this! we will see if anything becomes of this. i will say this. you have an opportunity to prove us all wrong here. I truly hope you will take it! :)

Josias

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:31 am Click here to edit this post
"I would be quite annoyed to find anyone joining with the intent to cause internal strife and not become a genuine member of our community." Wendy

so my question is, that after all the times that the NLUO refused to listen to any criticism. offering players an option to join them, and shape the government, in leu of an actual conversation. it was just a lie. as now they resent a player actually doing that?

from now on, well, not EVERY post, but when i see hez, wendy, or lord lee offering a player to join their gov, in order to address concerns they have with the gov... well, your gonna see this post allot. as it is obvious that they don't actually want your opinion. they just want your support.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:31 am Click here to edit this post
I am sorry for acting like a child in this issue. I think it is dumb to say the least. I have done nothing wrong. I have never done anything wrong. I have never be on the offensive, but on the defensive. There are nations waiting for me to come on war level 3 to try and dec me. Don't you all worry your pretty little heads. I am building as we speak, and I will quickly come to war level 3, and we can handle this thing like you truly in your hearts want to handle it. That is through WAR!!!!!

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:39 am Click here to edit this post
Now there is a Shock! King Hezz throws his hands in the air and Denies all and blames everyone else for his problems. the Mark of a true leader! lol :) no just simply do what you said you would do according to the laws that you set up! go to court and stand Trial for your crimes against Humanity! show the international stage that you are not above the law! submit yourself to the governing power that you put in place! show yourself honest for once! :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:42 am Click here to edit this post
or maybe you should just call Shave a terrorist, cause after all, its just as you said before, that's the easiest way to get everyone behind you. now isn't it?. :)

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:46 am Click here to edit this post
I will show up to this unjustified hearing. I will follow the rules as I have always done. Sighs!!!

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:48 am Click here to edit this post
Shave it is hard to commit genocide while having never ever been at war with a president...

The hearing is over before it started.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:53 am Click here to edit this post
the charge is that he threatened Genocide! and committed an illegal act against a head of state. and you madam secretary with all do respect can see your way out of this conversation as this is a matter for the courts to decide! :)

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:04 am Click here to edit this post
There is no valid charge. Case closed.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:09 am Click here to edit this post
yes after looking at your boards I see you have overcome this issue as well as all others by having no laws at all to direct what is considered an illegal act, well that is of course with one exception, and that being treason! go figure! got all kinds of legislature on that one! ROFL. so yes no doubt once again this poor excuse for a so called government cannot and will not do a thing, but then we all knew that didnt we. :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:12 am Click here to edit this post
basically there court system is set up to deal with those people who would dare go against the governing powers. nothing else. they have no laws that speak towards this crime or any other. there fore if anything is ever brought before their courts they can simply opt out by saying there is no adaquit legislation for the crime, and thus legally no crime has been committed irregardless of who has been effected or hurt by the situation. gee never saw that one coming! lol :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:15 am Click here to edit this post
If you will excuse me Mr. Shave:

I already said that I would bring your case up and summons King Hezekiah.

Is that not enough for you?

Are my word not legitimate?

So, now because you want to continue to go back and forth on this forum we are now classified by you as a 'SO-CALLED GOVERNMENT" My son, you are making it hard for me to not just dismiss this case as soon as King Hezekiah shows up.

Mizore

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:18 am Click here to edit this post
Your secretary of state said, "There is no valid charge. Case closed."

How should this be interpreted?

Keto

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:20 am Click here to edit this post
Now the LU community understands our opposition to this "so called government".
Shave you are doing an excellent job bringing out the true NLUO.
All players have to do is re-read all the previous posts made by NLUO members and they will see the contradictions. One post they say one thing the next post they say another.
I believe they don't even know how to run a government judging by the facts in previous posts.

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:21 am Click here to edit this post
The Secretary of State, with all do respect can say the case is closed if she wants to. She can see forest from the trees, so to speak. I am taking the charge up, and taking the case seriously. What more can we do?

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:23 am Click here to edit this post
sir I respected your first statement,and still do, your integrity is not in question, i am referring to those in which you answer to who have suggested that this is a done deal before it is even seen in court. how else can I respond? now if you do intend to truthfully try this matter in court then as I have previously stated my faith will be renewed in the possibility of real ties being established with a fair governing body, but when its leaders come out in the open and basically state that it has already been decided, then it doesn't make the NLUO look to good to the international stage. :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:26 am Click here to edit this post
To Keto's point:

I don't post much, but I read the forums, and the only contradictions are that of the people of opposition to our government.

Do we know how to run a government?
Are you a government official in real life?
We do the best we can my son ,and we learn from our mistakes.

My question to you my son, Can the international community forgive mistakes and grow with us?

Keto

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:29 am Click here to edit this post
Of course we can forgive mistakes. Problem is NLUO continues to make them, contradicting what was set out when NLUO was first created.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:31 am Click here to edit this post
Good grief Gaddafi, why are you even feeding them/ Keto is a Hydra member and does not support our government. He is one of about 8 nations who want to destroy the NLUO. He is a cool person. We talk in chat, but his agenda is not favorable to the NLUO. I am going to say this with the up most respect. Don't let that Chief Justice position go to your head.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:35 am Click here to edit this post
your Dictator who is always on the defencive has just issued a command! lol really Hezz? :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:36 am Click here to edit this post
Mr. Secretary General,

I am going to not respond to your blatant challenge of my authority in the judicial system. I am going to take up the case, and I will hope you be a good boy and come to court. You will receive your formal summons in the morning King Hezekiah. I am going to go to bed. Got to work tomorrow.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:37 am Click here to edit this post
so let me ask you this? will any decision by the courts that would favor a ruling against Hezz even be upheld? :)

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:38 am Click here to edit this post
I will be there Mr. Chief Justice. I am sorry. I was not challenging your authority, and will accept whatever ruling you hand down.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:38 am Click here to edit this post
I only ask because of the nature of the way Hezz just responded to chief Justice Gaddafi! :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:42 am Click here to edit this post
My son, Mr. Shave:

All decisions of the Court is upheld!!
We are a separate but equal branch of government.


I really need to go to bed. I like the interaction though.


There are no hard feeling King Hezekiah.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:44 am Click here to edit this post
Ok. Well if you need to go to bed, then do what you need to do.

I will respect your decision Chief Justice Gaddafi

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:47 am Click here to edit this post
who may I ask is your Secretary of Justice, as I understand this will be the prosecutor in this case, and i would like to discuss my case with this person as soon as is possible, :)

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:57 am Click here to edit this post
also in light of the lack of legislature on this particular issue I would ask that we come to an agreement that this situation be judged according to the facts and with a fair and balanced jury


and again with no legislature,i request do to the nature of the crime it be filed under the Felony 2 Status with all applicable penalties. assuming he be found guilty of course.

LEVEL 2 FELONY: MUST STEP DOWN FROM THEIR POSITION OF POWER IN THEIR PARTY. IF THEY HAVE NO POSITION OF POWER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOTING AT ALL..

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 05:08 am Click here to edit this post
How did I guess you would file for Level 2 felony?

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 05:13 am Click here to edit this post
well outta 7 possible felony levels, 7 being the highest, if im not mistaken anyway, id say im being pretty generous. :)

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 05:17 am Click here to edit this post
Me stepping down as secretary General, and giving up my seat in the legislature is a bit harsh.

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 06:29 am Click here to edit this post
I am bringing charges of Treason against Shave although his formal membership in the NLUO is still a question. Clearly he is a puppet of Hydra and or their advocates.

It is about time we end this nonsense.

The Unknown

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 06:45 am Click here to edit this post
LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE OF YOURS
*in the jokers voice*

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 03:52 pm Click here to edit this post
ok Ms. Wendy! so allow me to get this straight! if a person files charges against someone in power, he has committed treason? now where have I seen this before? oh yes I believe it was Nazi Germany, um, Iraq? perhaps the Kremlin! China? pretty much anywhere that Fascism exists! , that hardly suggests any kind of democracy. But ya know what Ms Wendy, thats ok! you bring your charges. the court , according to its own documents deals with each case, on a cases by case basis, so after we are done with King Hezz's trial, then you are more then welcome to attempt to prosecute me. as far as my legitimate claim to my being a member, go into your site and look at the date I joined. as you will see, there was no point that I ever technically left the NLUO. my presence there is quite legal. my actions are well within the Law. you have no legal premise on which to stand. even as a member of Hydra, I have committed no crime, as every member of the NLUO is a member of an alliance. but it does not surprise me that you would attempt to retaliate against me for coming against king Hezzekiah, as you have been there as his body guard since day one. the Expansionist part of this Government where you and King Hezzekiah are concerned are not at all concerned with democracy, but you are fascists! and this trial, and everything that surrounds it is only continuing to prove that, the more you and Hezz attempt to tamper and mess with things. its vey simple Wendy. a court was created for the international community to be able to try the leaders of the government when they step out of order or commit a crime, as well as their peers when necessary. I have availed my self of this right, and in doing so have committed no crime, however madam Secretary, as I hold no position, and have nothing to hold onto, be advised, it is my belief that in attempting to prosecute a nation for availing themselves of their democratic rights as a punishment for coming against the leadership of the government, it is you who would be committing treason. :)

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 04:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Wagers on how this will end shave?

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 07:19 pm Click here to edit this post
oh thats easy! if you and Hezzy have anything to do with it , it will be corrupt! and thereby in your own crooked way, you guys will win, however it will only go toward proving what you guys are really all about and therefore, I will win. Its not Rocket Science. now on the other hand if you all actually do play ball fairly and by the rules, Which isnt likely, then we could see another outcome. but im certainly not going to hold my breath and neither is the rest of the international community. now if you guys were smart, and your motives were truly to bring about credibility to this government, then you would be wise to do this as fairly and transparently as possible, in that way even if Hezz would lose, he would still win in that his government would then be considered legitimate to the rest of the world. but as im sure this thing will prove, those arent at all your interests. in fact the only thing you too care about, or so it would seem is a power grab, and for everyone else to fall in line. although, I will sincerely say this ms, Wendy! It would truly and honestly be nice to be proven Wrong. :)

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 07:32 pm Click here to edit this post
I get by reading the first and last sentences in your posts Shave. I take it you want to wager, or don't you?

Are you a current member of the NLUO?

What is your actual purpose for these shenanigans with Hezekiah? I'm lost as to why. Help me out.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 07:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Me too. I am all ears.

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 10:16 pm Click here to edit this post
crickets.

shave

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - 11:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I would say my Purpose has been made very clear Ms. Wendy. Turn the NLUO into the organization we were all made to believe it was going to be. Hezz is the ruler of that organization. its Architect so to speak. he fed us the illusion that it would be a free and democratic body where all would be free to be a part and ultimately be free to help shape its growth. thus far we the international community and free nations of LU have seen no such organization, but rather a platform for tyranny. a two headed beast if you will that seems for whatever reason bent on controlling the rest of us. through threats of Genocide in this case and through many others. Thus far you have been unwilling to concede anything in the direction of the international community nor have you been willing to bend. however there are those among your ranks that are. interestingly whenever they put there hand in the air to speak they are suddenly and without cause slapped back down. just as Chief Justice Gadaffi was last night by his majesty King Hezz! when he was sternly warned not to let his position go to his Head! Tell me your majesty, what exactly happens to a man in a position that as you put it, " lets his position go to his Head" ??? is he to be Exterminated as well. Gee I certainly hope not. whats my Purpose? to see the realization of a free and uncorrupted World where we can all live in genuine peace and prosperity. Smile your Majesty! your on candid camera! :)

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 12:40 am Click here to edit this post
I see your points in your post, and how you can be made to believe what you think we are by the propaganda brought against the government. I am not a ruler of this government or nobody would join. I am sorry you think this way, and hope that we can come to some sort of conclusion. I have conceded to the Chief Justice, and will be attending Court on December 18, 3092. I will also accept the verdict handed down.

Carthaginian0

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:11 am Click here to edit this post
Shave,

I am striving every time I get on here to make the NLUO a more democratic place. Truly I am. I do not like the way we handled this first portion of our existence, and I ask you give the sane members a few more chances to change the way things are run.

What Hezekiah said is regrettable- but he said it not with the power of the NLUO behind him. What Wendy said about the case being dismissed was also on her own. She sometimes does not speak from her Secretary position I assume.

I applaud Gaddafi for standing firm. The Secretary General does NOT have supreme power and I am striving to make that understood.

I say all this because I want to ask you to allow myself and other members a chance at righting these wrongs. I know it is slow; I know we have made mistakes that are egregious and, simply put, wrong. But give me and my associates one more chance.

Carthaginian0

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:12 am Click here to edit this post
Oh and Wendy- what exactly are the charges against Shave? Being too blunt? Exposing our flaws that we most definitely have?

Keto

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:31 am Click here to edit this post
I smell a coup!

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:49 am Click here to edit this post
As i stated earlier, there are those within your ranks that do share a good and common vision, and I do appreciate that Carthaginian0. I do truly hope your efforts succeed. I will say this, as I believe I have more then adaquitly pointed out in the past. King Hezekiah has it within his power at any given moment to decide to do right by the NLUO and its reputation with the whole of the international community. he simply needs to stop the aggressive posturing, think before he speaks, and actually live up to the standards that he promised the world when he created this body, and took office. look, his creation of this system is to be applauded at its core and original intent. its just that at some point things got way outta hand and became one sided. what could have been the creation of a democratic, sociol ,economic and even military power house has turned unfortunately into a biased, one sided, closed off dictatorship of sorts with no grip on accountability within or without its ranks. is there time to straighten all of this out? sure! just do the right thing, and show that there is real accountability. listen to the international community around you. certainly you have to recognize the fact that these people are your neighbors, and you have to live among them. like it or not their voices do count. their actions do effect things. give them a voice weather they choose to be NLUO or not. wise man once said keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. even if you feel they are against you, would it not be smart to hear their speech and to know their movements. however I can guarantee it is not Hydra's desire to destroy anyone including the NLUO. they are simply not going to sit idly by and watch a glorified dictatorship run this world into the ground, and dictate how they must live and conduct their affairs with no say as to how things should be done. Hezz! no one is going to do that. get diplomatic about things, agree to make concessions, just as you have asked others to do. do what you promised. lead with integrity. :)

Serpent

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:52 am Click here to edit this post
Chicken coup? Man, those stink.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:50 am Click here to edit this post
I smell a beat down. The charge is AssHatery. This is not from the NLUO official position I hold, it is my own personal position.

Shave join Hydra, try dictating to them how you think they should operate.

Hezekiah has absolutely nothing to apologize for. Hydra erred in forming itself to attack or train new players to attack NLUO members.

I won't even mention that other thing that has gone nowhere FAST.

The NLUO will continue to grow with genuine members that wish to lend support and improve the government without making an ass of themselves on the forum yelling and screaming genocide this and bla blah nothings. These are 1's and 0's Shave. There has to be realistic limits on the extent of role-playing here. This is not only unrealistic, impossible, and stupid but boring as well. Give me a break.

There will be no charges. None that I recognize being brought by a member of the NLUO against King Hezekiah. If Colonel wants to play along with you I am all for that, but seriously shave, no one seriously takes you or any of this seriously at all.

We in the NLUO are doing real things to move LU to where we think it will improve the game on LU. I don't have time for children or non game related theater. This is all very funny but nothing more.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:54 am Click here to edit this post
Exterminate!

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:14 pm Click here to edit this post
all of that Nonsense you just spouted off is nothing more then your own garbage Ms, Wendy. Frankly I and Id say every bit of about 95% of the players of this game could care less weather or not you agree to anything. as your reputation more then precedes you. you suggest no one cares and that somehow you are speaking for some great amount of people? lol I seriously doubt that. a large group of the NLUO has already admitted they feel the same way as I do. Oh and for the record Ms. Wendy.... your attempt to strong arm me will not work. you see I dont suffer from a self esteem problem. as I stated before to you. im not trying to fit into some kind of super player club, like im in high school and pushing for popularity or something, so dont try that petty garbage with me. as far as my role playing goes, Ill play that to the extent I wish, as I pay for my membership the same as you do. you dont control me or anyone on here, so as far as im concerned you may see your way out of this as no one has yanked your chain. :) Good day Ms, Wendy

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:19 pm Click here to edit this post
oh and I am a member of Hydra! and they have no issue with excepting people or their idea's. you are annoyed with this? who cares get over it and while you are at it, get over yourself. :) tell me ms Wendy? how do you do it? how do you manage to make enemies out of everyone on here? you were doing fine too, then like usual you go from being sociable wendy to psycho Honey in a matter of seconds. its like you suffer from mood swings or something. lol :) lol :)

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:27 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

oh and I am a member of Hydra!




...and with that statement, I rest my case, and the phony one you brought up in our forums.

Colonel I hope you act accordingly.


Shave I am very social, but I'm drawing a line with the NLUO. I don't have time for the games. We are trying to do something very positive and it will be a great improvement to LU. If you or any of Hydra have an issue with us. Settle it. Stop this forum posturing and get on with it.

If not, stop the press, I'm growing impatient. If you aren't gagged soon I'll begin to express my annoyance with you and your masters. End of story.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:31 pm Click here to edit this post
I am pretty moody once every 21 days or so, but I know it has less to do with my biology, and more to do with the constant interference and pointless exchanges of goodwill from the NLUO with players that have no intention of interacting politically and instead want to play games at our expense.

I'm about done typing and answering your 200 or so 500 word essay posts every 5 minutes and I am about to start talking in the only way players like you understand.

But we can be friends the whole time I have no problem with that.

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:48 pm Click here to edit this post
ok first, it was by your invitation that we took these matters to your forums and your way of doing things, and now you want to be angry that we did it?. and yes I am a member of Hydra, I have never hidden that fact. everyone within the NLUO is a member of an alliance. nothing illegal about that. I joined the NLUO long before I joined Hydra, I never officially left the NLUO. by you and King Hezz's invitation I took my grievances to your channels. and now you want to sliver your way out from having to deal with the consequences of what you two initiated. well ms, Wendy, it was your doing. I only followed your advice. and you of all people are not really going to try to lecture someone about posting on these forums? please!

Shave I am very social, but I'm drawing a line with the NLUO. I don't have time for the games. We are trying to do something very positive and it will be a great improvement to LU. If you or any of Hydra have an issue with us. Settle it. Stop this forum posturing and get on with it.

you dont have time? tired of playing Games? guess what ms, Wendy? this is a Game! you are playing a game! no this is not real life! It is a game! so calm down and take your meds or whatever ya gotta do. as far as settleing it I am....:)


I'm about done typing and answering your 200 or so 500 word essay posts every 5 minutes and I am about to start talking in the only way players like you understand.

Good, About time! no one asked for your opinion anyway. and ill tell you what I told you before.....Bring It! again no one is scared! lol this is after all just a game. I learned along time ago, if you gamble, dont gamble any more then you are prepared to lose. and I dont. you wanna hit me then go ahead. and when the time comes and you are finished, ill simply rebuild, and its business as usual. :) now I know how pressed for time you are and how much you dont want to play games so ill just say good day to you ms, Wendy! :)

Crafty

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Sweetpea:

Quote:

More importantly, who intends to prosecute any judgement that may be prescribed here Colonel?


That about says it all, doesn't it.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:52 pm Click here to edit this post
We could 'play' the game any time you are ready shave. You are not ready for that type of escalation. You are under war level 3, and it would be pretty suicidal to provoke a player like me if you ever intended to. I am often merciful. I think you are funny and don't take particular pleasure in crushing grapes. So no worries there. But let's be honest here. I play this game.

SweetPea

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:56 pm Click here to edit this post
You can discuss whatever you want on our forums, and it will be taken under advisement. You are not a member of the NLUO, therefore you cannot bring charges against a member of the NLUO. That is more than clear.

You've shown yourself to be a joke, so debating anything with you would be quite pointless. But no one is saying you can't state your piece though. You won't manipulate us into prosecuting a member of our organization based on something that could never happen in the game.

Keep talking though.

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:05 pm Click here to edit this post
yes Ms Wendy and here it comes out again. ROFL LOL!
I know, there is none Higher then you oh great and Powerful one, and how could any one dare to talk back to the All powerful Ms. Wendy. Well being the Peon that I obviously am I guess I just haven't yet learned that lesson. and ill get to WL3 when I choose to. yes I do know how all that works. I am taking time to learn the war game more indepthly. you see there are some on here that are really trying to teach other players how to play the game instead of trying to bully the other newer players in the forums who are trying to have a good time playing the game. some of us do enjoy games, and are interested in playing them. :) and yes ms, Wendy you do have your moments when you can be quite the fun player. but then you take all of that throw into the garbage with your sudden mood swings and start the bullying garbage back up. :)

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:12 pm Click here to edit this post
uh yes I am a member of the NLUO, unless I have been booted by do process of Law! and the charges have been filed, and according to your judicial department they are running the show there. now of course you may do what everyone knew you would do all along and cheat your way out of this, even though I really dont see where you have a choice as you are not the one in control of things, or so you and your people say anyway. I guess this is something we shall soon see, one way or the other. im guessing you have more pull then you all let on, but I hope I am proved wrong here. :) I am relying on the good side of the NLUO to do the right thing even if you Ms, Wendy will not. :)

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:19 pm Click here to edit this post
You've shown yourself to be a joke,

and funny madam Secretary! you are the only one ive seen post anything resembling that kind of an opinion! :)

Crafty

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave, enough, you are doing nothing to further your cause.

shave

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:32 pm Click here to edit this post
you are right crafty it isnt, i am allowing myself to get drug into a spat match with ms.Wendy over a couple of stupid comments made earlier. Ill do my best to try and curb my feelings. after all it isn't personal, or shouldn't be anyway. :)

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave, I believe that this is the stupidest case I have ever heard of, and for Gaddafi to take it up is dumb in my opinion. Anyways. I have agreed to go to the court date. Now, if it is found that I am not guilty will you accept that judgment? Or will you just say it is a hitler move, and Hilter controls the judicial system? Furthermore, You are a member of the NLUO, but how can you be apart of the government, and apart of an opposition federation at the same time? All of your policies will be damaging to the NLUO as a whole. You will never speak up for the government dealing with an organization whose whole existence was started to destroy this government. I will tell you, that since you joined the site, you will not be removed, but I have filed charges against you for treason. If you check the constitution, you are committing a treasonous act by dealing with an anti-government organization. It is called "espionage". So, get ready for Gaddafi to charge you as well, and I hope you go to your court date as well.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave, Here is the section in the constitution.
Section 4. Internal NLUO members who are found to have committed treason
Any member of the NLUO found, under this Act, to have committed a Level 7 Felony, with an attempt to commit treason, all appropriate laws and NLUO voting policies will determine the future of membership for this act of treason within the NLUO. If any member engage in "espionage" outlined in section 4 (a) have committed and act of treason. The New Little Upsilon Order will consider nuclear retaliation.
(a.) involves a government or individual obtaining information that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. This government or individual may be secretly or publically apart of an opposition organization of a particular government, corporate entity, and or specific individuals based on nationality, ethnicity, religous beliefs, or general belief etc. Ex) CIA, KGB, Libiyan Revolutionary Committee, PKG, etc.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Punishment if found guilty.

LEVEL 7 FELONY: KICKED OUT OF THE NLUO WORLD GOVERNMENT FOREVER, ISOLATED, STRIPPED OF THEIR EMPIRE, PRESIDENTIAL BOYCOTTED FOR 30 YEARS EVERY 2 YEARS, SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS AGAINST THE NATION IN QUESTION FOR NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND NO NUCLEAR FACILITIES IN THEIR COUNTRY.

Serpent

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:49 pm Click here to edit this post
How do you intend to 'strip' a player of their empire?

How do you intend to isolate them?

How do you intend to keep nuclear facilities out of their country?

Crafty

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Hez, if I may...

The security council exists outside of the NLUO's juristriction.

Your constitution needs re-writing. Again, you are making presumptions of authority over that which you do not have the right to assume authority.

This really is one of your major flaws, you have done it since day 1. Could you please correct this as you have your lists.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Serpent those Are government secrets. If you join the government I will be happy to share that information with you.

Serpent

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Hmmm, so its a secret how you are going to 'strip' a player of their empire, its a secret how you will isolate them and its a secret how you will keep them from having nuclear facilities.

Correct me if Im wrong, but you cant take assets from a player can you, nobody except the GM could do that.

You cant isolate them either.. for ie... in the case of shave, he is a member of Hydra, how could you isolate him, he is in a federation? How is that even possible?

Furthermore, how can you keep him from getting nuke facilities in his country/s. You can pass SC resolutions and such, but that wont keep him from doing as he pleases.

Just curious as to why players make demands and think they can back them up. Ive played this game a long time and have never heard of such things. Maybe you know something on this matter that I do not?

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Crafty. We have 8 votes in the Security Council.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:13 pm Click here to edit this post
You want to know all about this government but don't want to join. This is typical.

Serpent

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Wouldn't it be prudent of a president to ask questions before they decided to join? You don't expect blind faith out of your members do you?

Its not really curiosity about NLUO per se, but a question about your ability to execute and enforce your ideology on the rest of LU.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, PM me if you are really interested. If I do tell you this info, you must not share it with your hydra people.

Crafty

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Hez, the members of the SC change continuously, and they would have to vote in favour.

Again, this comes across as assumption. I'm not being a dick to you, just pointing out the things that make you seem as if you aren't what you say you are. Hell, if things improve the way they are with Gaddaffi and Carth' speaking up and you showing a lot more reason, then I would be very interested in joining a union that makes LU a good place to be. The ideas are there...

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you, I think.. (confused)

Lord Lee

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave should be charged with treason and dealt with a.s.a.p. without delay as he is in a anti NLUO federation! The case against King Hezekiah II should be dropped because there isn't any evidence to support Shave's claims so a court case would be a waste of time. Why are we even wasting time with this criminal?

Lord Lee

Lord Lee

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:14 pm Click here to edit this post
In my opinion Shave should be evicted from the NLUO immediately! This is a disgrace that this has even got this far!

Lord Lee

Serpent

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Wouldn't it be in the best interests of the NLUO to answer those questions I have plainly and respectfully asked publicly? After all, it might help others understand not only the policies but the method of execution and enforcement of such laws, rules and regulations, would it not?

I dont need to speak privately about this matter, as you raised it publicly. Obviously I know the answers to these questions, it's just good for the LU community to know the answers. Wouldn't it be better for the NLUO to give answers on their own methods of enforcement and execution of their policies than a president (albiet very handsome and intelligent) who isnt a member of NLUO? It seems that any reputable government would jump at the chance to educate the masses.

Crafty

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Serp, I want to have your babies.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:28 pm Click here to edit this post
I would like to speak on this matter in Private because it is a matter of national security as to our methods of enforcing judgments on our members. Or you can contact Secretary of LU Security President Carthaginian0 (I-Carthage). This would actually be his area of expertise.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:29 am Click here to edit this post
its Like this Hezz, and even Lord Lee, Do what you are going to do. truth be known you are going to anyway. and when there is no premise for what you do then you will do as you have always done and make things up as you go.the question all along has been and still is weather or not there is one ounce of integrity within the NLUO governing body. and you know what? there is a few of you. but not to worry, as soon as the trial with you Hezz is over, I will save you the trouble and resign officially from the NLUO. I have done all I can to effect positive change within the ranks of the NLUO. I believe my point has been more then proven. I only wish to see if the court has within its self the Integrity you two obviously do not. you have made it 100% clear that you will not tolerate any one with a differing opinion. why would I want to stay a part of that kind of group. so Hezz you need not worry about it any further after the trial. assumeing of course ther even is one. again we shall see. :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:32 am Click here to edit this post
although i do have to say, I find it incredibly funny that all this legislation exists for treason and nothing else. lol like a true Dictatorship. :)

Serpent

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:36 am Click here to edit this post
No babies CC, perhaps some coffee with me, or better yet... how you Brits say, lets have a pint or two!

Lord Lee

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:45 am Click here to edit this post
or ten pints LOL

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:51 am Click here to edit this post
(a.) involves a government or individual obtaining information that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. This government or individual may be secretly or publically apart of an opposition organization of a particular government, corporate entity, and or specific individuals based on nationality, ethnicity, religous beliefs, or general belief etc. Ex) CIA, KGB, Libiyan Revolutionary Committee, PKG, etc.


actually Hezz according to your law, I have to be found guilty of obtaining Secret or confidential information to have committed espionage. I have obtained no information sensative to the national security of the NLUO, aside from the fact that you sir do Lie and that my friend is no secret! :)

Lord Lee

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:56 am Click here to edit this post
Shave, you have proven nothing but that you intentionally try to sabotage the NLUO's integrity.

You are in league with anti-NLUO government and have had an agenda all along. There is no proof of the accusations made against the Secretary General, so why a case as been brought against him is most baffling!

Lord Lee.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:03 am Click here to edit this post
Quote: Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm
Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator.

there is the proof! it is posted in several other places. there is no doubt to the validity of who made these remarks. as I stated I was a member of the NLUO prior to HYDRA which I am now proudly a member of. and there is no law prohibiting me from being a part of Hydra, there is only a law that prohibits me from sharing secret or classified info, which I have never done, nor have I ever been asked by the Hydra alliance to do so, nor do i possess any! there fore I couldn't have possibly had an agenda as you put it all along. and the agenda to bring out the true nature of some of those who are currently in power within this government has never been hidden from anyone, as I have been quite vocal in this matter. :)

Lord Lee

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post
Shave you are a traitor and have caused nothing but trouble. There is no proof of the accusations made against the Secretary General.

Lord Lee.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:54 am Click here to edit this post
Secretary King Lord Lee, I kinda figured he would leave the NLUO when facing a level 7 felony. I at least have the balls to go to my trial.

Keto

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 02:32 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm Click here to edit this post Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:45 am Click here to edit this post
as I said b4 Hezz


(a.) involves a government or individual obtaining information that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. This government or individual may be secretly or publically apart of an opposition organization of a particular government, corporate entity, and or specific individuals based on nationality, ethnicity, religous beliefs, or general belief etc. Ex) CIA, KGB, Libiyan Revolutionary Committee, PKG, etc.


actually Hezz according to your law, I have to be found guilty of obtaining Secret or confidential information to have committed espionage. I have obtained no information sensative to the national security of the NLUO, aside from the fact that you sir do Lie and that my friend is no secret!


your claims are baseless according to your own laws I have committed no crime. however as long as it is done fairly and according to the laws already in tact in which both you and I have displayed, sure ill go through your court. although a prosecution would be impossible with out breaking or bending your own law. I did not transfer any information to anyone ! therfore espionage is not applicable here.:)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:26 am Click here to edit this post
I am taking up this allegation as well, but it is not in good faith to discuss the issues before the trial.

SweetPea

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:40 am Click here to edit this post
I for one am Glad you are looking at both sides of this issue colonel.

Carthaginian0

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:18 pm Click here to edit this post
As the Secretary of Security, shave should remain an NLUO member until proven otherwise. At this moment in time, he is a member. If charges are to be pressed, as I expect they will be, there must be inarguable evidence against him to have him evicted. Level 7 felonies are not to be taken lightly.

Laguna

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:43 pm Click here to edit this post
This looks a lot like Wikipedia's Village Pump.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:01 pm Click here to edit this post
well go figure, after being threatened to lose his position the trial for King hezz is being dismissed.

wow! now there is a real Shocker! well I would say this pretty much proves everything I have ever stated. The NLUO is a Joke! what else can be said! that as they say is That! Gadaffi i gotta say guy I thought you were made of sterner stuff!. man to fold that fast! wow! lol ok guys if thats really how you want things, hey who am I to stand in anyones way. lol Wow! you guys are something else. you talk about corrupt, man the Nazzi's aint got nothin on you guys! lol

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I guess at the End of the day, you just are who you are.! i am actually speechless. enjoy the game gentlemen. enjoy! lol :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:07 pm Click here to edit this post
for those interested this was his reason for folding!

After just speaking with King Hezekiah. I will go ahead and drop the charges against King Hezekiah. I do not want to risk loosing my position if the majority of the government does not believe King Hezekiah should be tried. I am not a weak Judge. I just want to go with the majority. I do not want to be out in front. So, I hope nobody thinks I am against King Hezekiah. True, I did try to get him impeached, but it was King Herod's idea. He, Carthage, and me all were confederate to overthrow his administration. I seen that since then, King Hezkiah does have the suport of this government, so I fell in line. I did flip to Isolationist, but this ideology fits my personality more. With that said, I hope the members of the congress will take my speech in good faith, and still consider me a loyal member of the NLUO.

Thank you,

The Brother Leader Mohamar Gaddafi
Chief Justice Office

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:10 pm Click here to edit this post
after being threatened with these! lol

Lordlee
Moderator
I am disgusted to read in the game forum that the Secretary General of NLUO (King Hezekiah II) is to have a court summons. I must object and ask Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi in the strongest terms to reconsider his decision! Shave in my opinion is a terrorist and a traitor. He is in league with Anti-NLUO government. Also there is no evidence that any wrong doing took place, so a court case is a waste of time. Not only that it sends out a terrible message to the international community and there are bound to be repercussions. If this trial is to go ahead against the Secretary General then I will ask members of the NLUO government to vote in a vote of no confidence in your abilities as Chief Justice of the world of Little Upsilon International Criminal Court (Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi).

This is a proposal for a law for a vote of no confidence in Mohamar Al Gaddafi as Chief Justice for taking up a baseless trial against King Hezekiah that could possibly if Hezekiah is found guilty loose his position as Secretary General. This could be a closet coup considering the Chief Justice flipped to Isolationist, an extreme rightwing hardliner Isolationist., and has tried to impeach King Hezekiah in the past.
This propsal was championed by Secretary of Treasury King Lord Lee. I ask the Majority Leader to take up this proposal and bring it to the floor for debate, and voting.


Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi has publicly set a date and time in the game forum for the hearing against the Secretary General to be held on Monday 14th January 2013 at 9pm Central Standard time (10pm in New York), (7pm in Los Angeles), 3am Tuesday 15th January 2013 in London, 4am Tuesday 15th January 2013 in Berlin, 7am Tuesday 15th January 2013 in Moscow, 11am Tuesday 15th January 2013 in Beijing, 12 noon Tuesday 15th January 2013 in Tokyo, and 2pm Tuesday 15th January 2013 in Sydney, Australia.

Because of this public announcement: I ask members of the NLUO government to vote with me in a vote of no confidence in the Chief Justice and ask the Secretary General to use his “Executive Order Power" as he sees fit.

We haven't got much time so we need to act quickly. If we get a Vote of No Confidence in the Chief Justice then he will not have the authority to carry on with this trial in the name of the NLUO government and would most probably resign.

Let's get this vote of no confidence going.


Lord Lee.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:11 pm Click here to edit this post
You prove that all you want to do is divide this government.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:15 pm Click here to edit this post
to which King herod responded!

Wow. Mr. Secretary Please give this trial a chance. You yield great influence, and you would probably get that vote of no confidence. Please, I beg you, just give it a chance sir.

King Hezz replies
Herod, you just want to see me hung.. lol.. I thank the Secretary for his stedfast loyalty in coming to my aid. I tip my hat to you sir.

then says!
I am going to propose this in the fed congress, as Herod would call it, to make this a law

then I replied!

why doesnt this suprise me! I would simply reply to you king Hezzand Lord Lee, the question has been raised in the international community weather the integrity to this government stands at all. in taking this action you only further that belief. if you do this i can guarentee you the credibility of the NLUO will go completely out the window. you all need to be aware that for all of the hype against hydra, they have never so much as asked me one question or deterred me from being a part of this organization in any way shape or form. you are procedeing from a false assumption of distrust. yes i realize that in the past there have been hostilities that have gone both ways. but those have since been aloud to subside in an attempt to peaceful resolutions. where will you stand in the eyes of the international community? its up to you guys. but what will it say to everyone if you simply continue to oust all who would oppose you? do you not think that, that ideology will not spread here amongst us, until finally we consume all of each other. afetr all if you are willing to stab cheif justice gadaffi in the back so easily, then my question becomes, who is Next?? who will you boot next when they dont agree????

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:16 pm Click here to edit this post
just wanted everyone to know how it all went down! :) do with it what you will. :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:21 pm Click here to edit this post
hezz dude! I would have just stuck with the whole you are a terrorist thing. lol gimme a break man. lol you have absolutely pushed yourself off a cliff as far as any credibility goes. even I didnt realize how far you were willing to go to hang onto a little bit of power. lol! wow dude! Wow!

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Me a terrorist.. hahahhah Yeah right. Look how you post confidential information. THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. Do you think if we wanted people to see what we do, we would just post it on the SC forum. This actually makes my case against you for treason, and espionage.

Josias

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:49 pm Click here to edit this post
i do regret being the 261st post here, but

"you all need to be aware that for all of the hype against hydra, they have never so much as asked me one question or deterred me from being a part of this organization in any way shape or form." shave

and that is both way, in the since, that we did not ask him for information, or attempt to use him as a spy.

it is infact the core of Hydra, every one follows their own convictions. and works with in the group for mutual support and assistance. communicating amoungst each other as to what direction and how fast we want to go.

we don't need allot of rules, or regulations. we don't need double talk, or lies to support our position. as our position changes to fit the needs, and desires of the members. and we anchor it with skill, experience, and readiness

again, i didn't want to keep this going, just had to take a moment to talk about Hydra, in a good light, after everything that hez likes to say about us.

Crafty

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Yep, no govt. likes a whistle blower, huh Hez?

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:36 pm Click here to edit this post
i was referring to you calling me a terrorist. duh! lol and at this point seeing that you have absolutely no honor in you , and that there is absolutely no ethical standard to which you hold! frankly Hezz I could care less what you think you make as far as any case goes. you have proven time and again that if the rules dont work you will just change them. im done with this. you have hung your own integrity out to dry for all to see. there couldnt be a greater victory then that, aside from you having actually proven me wrong, but I knew from the start there was little chance of that happening. :)

Lord Lee

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:47 pm Click here to edit this post
It looks like Shave has been shaven to discover his true colours and agendas. Would you want him in your organization? Spreading unauthorized information about your conversations.

Shave you have dug yourself a very big hole. No one will trust you now and they will be wondering; is this information safe to share with Shave? NO it isn't!

I look forward to your trial Shave.


Lord Lee.

Serpent

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

Spreading unauthorized information about your conversations.




Its very unauthorized when it implicates corrupt practices!

Crafty

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Not that it's any of my business, but just out of interest, what info was it that Shave exposed? Anything shave said was published by Gaddafi himself wasn't it?

I dunno, but, how could shave spread info unauthorised if it's in the public domain anyway?

Anyone play 'angrybirds'?

Keto

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:00 pm Click here to edit this post
"Also there is no evidence that any wrong doing took place, so a court case is a waste of time."
Has the NLUO re-read any posts? If you did you will see all the wrong doing.
This so-called government is joke. You as a whole ,contradict yourselves time and again.
Talk about one-sided! You profess to be cordial to nluo and non-aligned members yet you are bias towards your own group for the benefit of saving face for your internal members.
Maybe I should start a vote of no confidence for the NLUO as an organization, since your group can't even follow your own rules set in place when NLUO was created.
Shave has not dug a very big hole. He has only exposed NLUO for what it really is.
Shave, I wouldn't even go to the trial because we all know what the outcome will be even though you are innocent.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Crafty, scroll up, and read shaves post. Those were posts on our forum at the gov site.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:04 pm Click here to edit this post
https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/4969/21411.html?1357940753

Serpent

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Uh Oh, wait though ladies and gentlemen (and I do use that term lightly) If Shave is guilty they will
1) Strip him of his Empire
2) Isolate him
3) Keep him from getting nuclear facilities in his countries.
At least that's what the NLUO claims. How do they plan on executing and enforcing it? Who knows? Is it even possible? (Never received and answer for this genuine question yesterday.)
Don't fret the small stuff Shave, your OK in my book, as long as I'm here you wont be Isolated, we can be friends. HaHa (not that that's much of an offer, but I mean if they are gonna strip and isolate you, you might not have many options, lol.)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Lord Lee! dont even get me started on you ! Please man! im not even gonna waist the time it would take to list your back handed garbage.

Shave you have dug yourself a very big hole. No one will trust you now and they will be wondering; is this information safe to share with Shave? NO it isn't!

I look forward to your trial Shave.


Lord Lee.

are you kidding me? what trial would that be? aint no way im appearing before that joke of a judicial system you call a court. son If you think I or anyone else is going to take any of you chumps seriously now, you are outta your gords! your poor excuse for a Law is so crooked I could wrap it around you and Hezzekiah twice before reaching its end. lol get a life Lee! I aint got any more time to waist on you people. gimme a break. lol :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:13 pm Click here to edit this post
yes Hezz i took those posts from your site to expose your corrupt system! So what! what are you gonna do about it chump? you are as crooked as they come! you want me fer treason? come and get me Punk!

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:19 pm Click here to edit this post
I just want to say I apologize for all of this controversy.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Gaddafi, you aint do nothing wrong. You just followed the law. Now shave wants to be hostile because his plan did not work. It is funny to me. It is not the system that is a joke. It is the people who use the system for personal gain who are the joke. Only the joke would call the system a joke. Funny.

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Im sorry for you too Gadaffi! I really thought you were gonna do the right thing and hold to your guns man. :) but hey it is just a game man no hard feelings! :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:25 pm Click here to edit this post
you are right Hezz its not the system that is a joke, its you! :)

shave

Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Gaddafi, you aint do nothing wrong. You just followed the law. Now shave wants to be hostile because his plan did not work. I


ROFL this coming from the guy who no more then several lines up accused you of being a traitor there Gadaffi! he had nothing good to say about you till he punked you out! lol cmon man really? lol :)

shave

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:44 am Click here to edit this post
Ya know something, after just placing a couple of posts on here, I just realized something. I have told Hezzy several times in private chat situations that anything said on here by me is only to be taken in character and should never be taken seriously. it has just accrued to me that I as well as a few others may now be crossing those lines. I am finding myself getting agitated with people and situations and it is causing me to be someone im not, or at least dont like to be. this is only a game and when it gets to the point where we are aiming to hurt peoples feelings then it has gone too far. and so I apologize to any that I have offended with any kind of name calling or whatever, everything else was about the game playing and was in character, but to any one who's feelings have been hurt or feel like you have been attacked personally by me then i sincerely apologize for letting this game get out of hand. after calling Gadaffi a coward and what not I realized it was going too far. so again to anyone and all, I apologize. :)

shave

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
just didnt want anyone to think my attacks were real or personal. :) now that being said! Back to NLUO Bashing! ROFL :)

SweetPea

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 04:05 pm Click here to edit this post

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As the Secretary of Security, shave should remain an NLUO member until proven otherwise. At this moment in time, he is a member. If charges are to be pressed, as I expect they will be, there must be inarguable evidence against him to have him evicted. Level 7 felonies are not to be taken lightly.




His own admission of being a Hydra member is inarguable Carth.

Are you with them or us? It is going to come down to that. I'm starting to wonder myself.

Carthaginian0

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post
SweetPea, I am not for the NLUO at all costs. I am for the ideology of the NLUO, which is to better all of LU. If the NLUO becomes a supreme dictatorship, then I am against them.

That is the problem with the NLUO, everyone in it thinks it is more important to preserve the entity and not the ideology. Well I will not drink the Kool-Aid. My allegiance is to LU.

shave

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 08:17 pm Click here to edit this post
good man! im glad to see you stick to your morals Carth!:)

Crafty

Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 09:34 pm Click here to edit this post

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Are you with them or us? It is going to come down to that. I'm starting to wonder myself.


A thinly veiled threat there methinks.

SweetPea

Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Nah CC, I would just come out and say it. I already made myself clear a while ago. I don't usually beat around the bush when it comes to stuff like that.

Carth, I understand how you feel and I agree. However, let the haters do their jobs themselves. It seems as if you are not on the same page as the rest of us sometimes. I applaud your independent though processes however.

SweetPea

Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:29 pm Click here to edit this post
I also find it hard to believe that anyone in the NLUO would want to preserve Shave's membership status. He isn't a member, and for entertainment purposes we say he is still a member, in that case he is up for treason.

Shave asks how will the NLUO punish him for his sabotage efforts. Well, rest assured Shave I will wait, and the moment that you place yourself in a position that allows for action to be taken, it will be.

I'll personally see to that.

shave

Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:10 pm Click here to edit this post
oooh! well in that case ill just hide underneath my blanket in fear! lol :)

shave

Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:12 pm Click here to edit this post
I could personally care less about what you intend to do wendy. really! :)

King Hezekiah II

Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Ma'dam Secretary I would not grace him with a reply... oops there I go again... I am being your lap dog again Ma'dam Secretary. lol...

Good Grief... People.. People...

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post
What ever happened to the multi player within the ranks of nluo? Was there any punishment? Was he ousted for multy playing which is against the nluo rules?

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:16 am Click here to edit this post
Shave as long as you are an insignificant free account, you can spout off all you want.

If there was a multi in the NLUO, you haters would have sent that email already. But you haven't right....

You wish there were a multi in NLUO. I don't recall any of our members being banned for multiplaying. Keto, get real.

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:23 am Click here to edit this post
SweetPea, what does him being a free player have to do with it?

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:26 am Click here to edit this post
Whatever I feel it has to do with it.

Carth, do yourself a favor and find something constructive to do. Leave grown folk to their business.

Better yet you keep questioning me publicly. Do we have a problem that needs to be worked out?

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:29 am Click here to edit this post
Seems like you are the childish one to me. I asked the question because I am a free member, does that make me lesser in your eyes? Is being a free member so inherently bad that you abhor it?

I didn't even attack you in any way. I happen to think you are full of horse crap, but I don't call you a child when I disagree with you.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post
Sweetpea, the way you reply in the forum posts is unbecoming of a secretary of the nluo, according to the idealogies of the nluo.

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post
I keep questioning you publicly because I wonder where you get half the stuff you post.

But I sit back most of the time and just read it. You are the Secretary of State, and I feel you have a right to talk without being opposed every time you open your mouth by one of your party members. HOWEVER, some of this egregious talk is really starting to sicken me.

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post
Again, the insignificance of such accounts precede them.

You can type, antagonize premium members, talk crap, throw mud, but when it really comes down to it, the free accounts are insignificant to my position within this game. Get it.

I pay to play this game, You do not. You shouldn't be allowed to indefinitely influence this game with out being a premium member. Of course that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

You keep talking though. I like it.

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:36 am Click here to edit this post
I. Asked.

I asked because I didn't know what it had to do with the situation. Not to challenge you.

I don't pay because I am saving up for a car. I know it sounds crazy, but I don't have a card to put it on, and so I don't have the 12 dollars. But now I shouldn't be allowed to play the game?

I dont understand why this is such an issue.

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:38 am Click here to edit this post
Speaking of which, I'm starting to think Free members should not hold high offices within the NLUO. That leaves us open to possible multi accounts and members with no incentive to stay in the game and have little investment in the game, much less the planet of Little Upsilon..

They just go on and on like a pestilence. I'm thinking there should be limits on this free play already. 6 months or something. I mean if you haven't decided you want to go premium by then you probably won't ever. Which means you are tying up resources in server processes that would benefit members who actually contribute to the game financially.

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:41 am Click here to edit this post
I don't care if you play or not, I know I am getting a bit annoyed at the prospect of having to endure players like you and shave indefinitely.

I don't care if you play or not, I just feel like it shouldn't be an indefinite free ride. Pointless if you ask me. But that is up to the game. If you play or not doesn't mean I need to look at your existence in the game as the best thing since sliced bread.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:44 am Click here to edit this post
SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post Again, the insignificance of such accounts precede them.

You can type, antagonize premium members, talk crap, throw mud, but when it really comes down to it, the free accounts are insignificant to my position within this game. Get it.

I pay to play this game, You do not. You shouldn't be allowed to indefinitely influence this game with out being a premium member. Of course that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

You keep talking though. I like it.
The majority of nluo members are free accounts.....go figure!

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:44 am Click here to edit this post
I'm sorry that the free players are the only ones not so tired of your crap that they actually respond to it and call you out for it.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:45 am Click here to edit this post
The majority of nluo members are free accounts.....go figure!

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:49 am Click here to edit this post
You don't have to be sorry Carth, just find some free members to play with. I'm not your toy.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:02 am Click here to edit this post
But Carth is part of nluo. Sweetpea, why do you speak to a fellow member of nluo in that manner?

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:24 am Click here to edit this post
The Majority of the NLUO are not free accounts. Wendy, me, Herod, Lord Lee, Stephen ryan, Lord arbucle, I can keeping going if you want me too.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:41 am Click here to edit this post
I want to say that I agree with Secretary Wendy as far as free accounts goes, but free accounts should in my opinion given positions in the government no matter what because it could influence their decision as to getting a premium account. Our divisions should only come out within the government. In public we need to stand together Isolationists, and Expansionists as a government with nations who are not apart of the government. Secretary Wendy, and Secretary Carthaginian0 are both isolationists, and they disagree. Secretary Carthaginian0 you need to understand that Secretary Wendy is going to speak her mind, and you have to understand that. Do not take personal offense. This is what drove Alyan away, and this one of the reasons why Shave is doing what he is doing. You must understand also that wendy has been in this game since the beginning. So, if you can just have that understanding, you can get along with her. She is a good girl, and an exceptional diplomat, and has taught me a lot. She helped take down the NLUO 4 years ago, and now she is a great ally. If I would have held a grudge, we would not be where we are today. It is all about respect.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 05:41 am Click here to edit this post
You also need to understand that Shave and Carth will speak there mind and shouldn't be prosecuted because of that fact, like the nluo is doing

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:29 am Click here to edit this post
I understand that. Here is the difference between Shave and Secretary Carthaginian0. Shave is trying to overthrow my administration. Secretary Carthaginian0 is a part of my administration.

Keto

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:36 am Click here to edit this post
Shave is exposing your administration for what it really is

Serpent

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:52 am Click here to edit this post
Very interesting point Mr Secretary Keto!

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:56 am Click here to edit this post
for the last time Wendy I AM NOT A FREE ACCOUNT! LOL
dont know weather you are ignoring that fact or just cant read! but get it through your head already! lol :)

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:10 am Click here to edit this post
Again, the insignificance of such accounts precede them.

You can type, antagonize premium members, talk crap, throw mud, but when it really comes down to it, the free accounts are insignificant to my position within this game. Get it.

I pay to play this game, You do not. You shouldn't be allowed to indefinitely influence this game with out being a premium member. Of course that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

You keep talking though. I like it.


UHH guess what Wendy! I pay to play this Game as well! only difference, is I don't feel all high and mighty because of it! you my dear suffer from an inferiority complex. you compensate in this world of make believe for what has gone wrong in real life. I truly hope I am wrong about that, but that is exactly how you come off. get over yourself! this is a game for crying out loud. and Hezz? either there is room for free speech or there isn't! it don't go both ways! there isn't one set of rules for you Wendy and Lee, and a different set for everyone else.! lay off the free players cause weather you are intelligent enough or not to figure it out, it takes all the people to make this game work. with out these free people that you seem to be so against, this game wouldn't be here, as more then 2 thirds of its population are free players! the Game masters were smart enough to figure that out and I am sure they don't want you bullying their people away! :)

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:11 am Click here to edit this post
and the sick part of all that garbage is, that a few boxes down they will go back to, oh oh please join the NLUO where everyone is welcomed with open arms and treated fairly! yea right people! grow up already! lol:)

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:31 am Click here to edit this post
I want to come out and say that I felt a little pressured by the majority of the NLUO members to drop the charges against SG King Hezekiah. I really want to leave the NLUO federation for fear of the wrath of the NLUO.


well there you have it ladies and gentlemen the confessed truth! charges were dropped do to intimidation and fear tactics! JUST AS I SAID!!!!

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:37 am Click here to edit this post
that was Gadaffi 's comment btw. :)

Carthaginian

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Calling her an exceptional diplomat is a stretch.

SweetPea

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave you are a free account.

We already had this discussion in an earlier thread.

King, I think premium members should be able to hold offices in the Cabinet. This would be a benefit of becoming a premium member, not a punishment.

Free members can and should be able to participate in the NLUO as they are a part of the community, but hold high office presents risks. I only named a few I'll fill you in on some others, even those I feel are at work already.

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:14 pm Click here to edit this post
are you stupid or something? no I am not? not that I need to convince you! :) I am a premium member and have been for a while now, and the other spot you are referring to was right before i renewed my membership. :)

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:28 pm Click here to edit this post
and the only reason I was free for a while is because i dropped my WG countries and switched worlds . i decided to wait to renew my account until I found a new world to settle on, and now I have one on KB and one on LU, which by the way would be impossible to do as a free member! ask Jack Septic who is also a member of the Unique on KB! and Hydra here on LU. :) man you people of the NLUO are so misinformed! and this is your SOS Hezz? lol please! :)

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:30 pm Click here to edit this post
good thing she isn't your intelligence officer! lol , you'd be in real trouble! lol

King Hezekiah II

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Good thing you are not either. We would be in trouble.

shave

Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:39 pm Click here to edit this post
almost witty! LOL :)

SweetPea

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 04:30 am Click here to edit this post
So you're a premium member now. Do we have something we need to settle, or are you going to stay under war level 3 for the remainder of your premium membership? When you're ready, I'm going to redefine the meaning of misinformed to you.

How long will I have to wait?

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:57 am Click here to edit this post
hahahhahahahhahaha

shave

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 07:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Its already been Settled, what are you talking about. you all are powerless to project anything any where. that Ms,Wendy is a fact. until I decide otherwise! ROFL not to worry though ms Wendy I too keep an extra cash Drawer around for rainy days, our time will come. as I stated, I have more to learn about the war engine. which BTW I have no problem admitting, as I do not believe I am some kind of God on here to bully other players! just saying! :)

Lord Lee

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 08:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Please be aware international community! Shave is a terrorist cell working for Hydra.

shave

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 09:21 pm Click here to edit this post
ROFL!!!!! yea ok Lee! hahahaha! I wondered how long it would take before ya all started tossing that term around! lol :) oh and ya might just wanna know, the international community out side of the NLUO, doesn't take you seriously at all Lee so keep it to your own slave nations! lol :)

Keto

Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:24 pm Click here to edit this post
"he international community out side of the NLUO, doesn't take you seriously at all"

You got that right

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
Shave. You will eat those words my friend. Guarantee that. Oh I forgot, you are not going to war at all.

shave

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 01:56 am Click here to edit this post
uh yea ok! lol

shave

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 01:57 am Click here to edit this post
yea ok! lol

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:16 am Click here to edit this post
Ha, you keep extra cash drawer for a rainy day? Lol. You have a lot of saving up to do before you can pose a threat to another newbie much less me.

I can give you a 25 Trillion SC Dollar grant to get you started. But oh yeah asset trading is suspended atm. Oops guess you're outta luck.

Serpent

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:22 am Click here to edit this post
I'll take 25T!!! Since its a grant I dont have to pay back right..... hmmm... but do I have to fill out all those forms and go through all the red tape?

However is its a gift, that would be great! :)

SweetPea

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:23 am Click here to edit this post
Haha, yea Serpent grants don't have to be paid back. But you're Hydra, which means you don't qualify :)

Serpent

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:47 am Click here to edit this post
But.... But.... But so is Shave!

Im thinking its just a Serpent problem!

shave

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 06:50 am Click here to edit this post
I can give you a 25 Trillion SC Dollar grant to get you started. But oh yeah asset trading is suspended atm. Oops guess you're outta luck.

i got that sitting in my account now lol :)
not as bad off as you might think wendy.

shave

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 06:52 am Click here to edit this post
i take that back , a little less now, these high level bombs cost a chunk! lol :)

SweetPea

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 05:30 am Click here to edit this post
If you waste it in 5 minutes fighting, you'll wish I gave you a grant. You should really get a grip on how much actual wars cost, not the c3 wars. Notice the part where I said, "Get you started."

You may have 25T in your account. I doubt you have it to spare though. Big difference.

shave

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 06:34 am Click here to edit this post
ya know something you should consider coming back to earth with the rest of us! lol no jk, but seriously you should hear yourself sometimes, you just come off so I don't know, like you got a God complex or something. :)

shave

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 06:45 am Click here to edit this post
and I think I made the point b4, about gambling. i dont have anything on here that im afraid of losing. if i were, it wouldn't be on here. lol so I could care less about your so called grant. so stop with the peeing contest will ya? yea you are no doubt more experienced at this then I am, but then im sure you have been at it alot longer. and bragging about spend ability doesn't say squat about your ability to play the game, it just says you have a wide wallet. not saying you cant play , but you come off as a bully acting that way. that be like me a 300 pound man walking up to a 120 pound 16 year old and bragging about being able to kick his tail. well duh! let it go already. :)

SweetPea

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 06:46 am Click here to edit this post
You must have a pretty poor understanding of God then. If I were God, I would have made you disappear already.

Who other than you said anything about gambling?


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and bragging about spend ability doesn't say squat about your ability to play the game, it just says you have a wide wallet.




I have been playing this game for a long time. Each year I pay my membership fees. I don't use my Credit Card to play this game.

Now learn something shave, it is not about what you can spend in the game, but how much you earn. Increase your capacity to make profit and naturally your spending will follow that increase.

In the future, think before you post.

King Hezekiah II

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 04:45 pm Click here to edit this post
well said

Lorelei

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 05:43 pm Click here to edit this post
hezzy hezzy........ stop! you dun have to affirm everything your goddess says! It makes you look weak and whipped! Be a man! Be a man! lol I'm teasing wif you.

Hope you are doing well! Come by chat!

shave

Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 08:28 pm Click here to edit this post
ok hey I can admit when I am wrong. about the spending bit! my apologies, however you do have a bully / God mentality :) and no you most certainly are not God, you simply act as though you think you are. thus you make it a point to talk down to people in order to belittle them and try and raise yourself up. Classic really. :)


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