| Jackseptic | Monday, December 10, 2012 - 08:54 pm 
I am torn between the enthusiasm of hez and the response of admired vets and am curious to know what the majority of active players on LU feels about this developing situation: Active players in support of hez and the world government please respond with a yes, Players that do not agree with this world government please respond with a no. |
| Gaz | Monday, December 10, 2012 - 09:08 pm
Yes |
| James the Fair | Monday, December 10, 2012 - 10:34 pm
Yes |
| shave | Monday, December 10, 2012 - 10:49 pm
yes |
| Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Monday, December 10, 2012 - 11:54 pm
yes |
| Jiang Hu Warrior | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 12:06 am
this concept, this idea of hezzy's a world government on LU, or any other world does have its merits, it involves player interaction, politics, drama even fun, but, well thats all good, but it could be construed as a form of fascism, by others a dictatorial stance to stifle how players play the game, if your not with us your against us mentality and then that throws all sorts of different things into this equation, we are not saying for a bit of fun/drama this shouldn't happen in simcountry, but if this is one's player(s) idea of trying to control how things run in simcountry i'll have to say im out and i'll damn anybody trying to control us(you dont want to do try that ever!) to the determent of ones exitinence that i'll fight for the freedom to do as we please while trying to maintain everyones freedom in simcountry, other than that have a nice day and let the DRAMA unfold! |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 12:42 am
yes |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:30 am
i'm against a world government. but in for accommodating a multitude of player desires
most the people that don't want outside interfence, are either below wl3, or above wl6
why can't the world government be limited to players in the wl3-6 range. those above can certainly advise and assosiate with lower levels, but the game doesn't allow for military interaction, and they (we) probably don't want to be bothered anyways
those effected by the government, should be at a level to both assist, and resist that gov. by limiting the effect of a world gov, to the wl3-6 or 5 range. it would allow the bulk of LU, via either diplomacy, or a show of strength, determine its own path. meaning those that don't want this, will fight. you could limit this in scope, and allow players a way out, and they could still experience the full game. (by either staying low, or leveling past governed levels,)
so i guess, what i'm suggesting is that instead of trying to be a "world gov," why doesn't it try being a "war level government," governing the wl3-5? but still leaving the higher levels for wanton destruction, and the lower levels for private playing. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:04 am
I seen you looking to buy nuclear weapons Orbiter, so I understand, that you are already preparing for war. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:06 am
<supersoldierrcp> nm how u doing, that King guys getting annoying
<josias> well, i am looking for a nuke supplier
<josias> if that answers your question
<supersoldierrcp> haha i got enought to nuke all the planets 2-3times over lol
<josias> not sure yet
<josias> i'll send you a message
<josias> it may not come to that
<josias> but at this point, i don't see avoiding a war
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| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:12 am
yes, i said that, so?
and before i hyjack the purpose of the thread in the first place!
carry on. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:43 am
So much for freedom huh? |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 06:02 am
i'd be very happy to discuss this with you, in another thread.
very, very, very, very happy, jumping and up and down happy, changing my pants happy, to discuss this on another thread!!! |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 06:06 am
like spastically gleefull |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 06:30 am
This is as good a thread as any. In my opinion. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 06:33 am
I understand why you want to change threads because one of your proteges created this thread, and you clearly look like some one who is willing and fully want to kill something that you believe or "supposedly" believe has no power in the first place, and your thoughts are to go to war with these people who "supposedly" have no power!! I believe this makes you a hypocrite. Check Mate. |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 06:52 am
well, you forced it
sorry jack,
how far do you wanna push this? hez? this is suppose to be discussion about the world gov. but it doesn't work if you aren't the center? i pressed you for answers, and you side stepped.
you've insisted on using the reputation of vets, unawares, to further your own goals.
you're number one supporter has publicly denied ever submitting to the rules you insist others follow
you lie, and tell us to go along with it for your own good.
and when some one that thinks for themselves, well... thinks for themselves. you point at the massing angst against your methods, to distract from an open debate.
yes, i'm buying nukes to destroy you. and your little dog to |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 07:09 am
Look at this chess must not be your game Orbiter. |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 07:55 am
and now can we get back to the poll? |
| Rick | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 09:45 am
Sure.
That would be a NO.
And..kindly remove me from the list as I previously requested.
I request the "little dog" be spared. |
| Phoenix King | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 10:27 am
Yes |
| Crafty | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:21 pm
I think my stance on this is quite clear.
Thankyou.
And no harm must come to dogs in this matter. That really would make me mad. Lemmings, meh..., they're fair game. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:54 pm
We have 8 yes and 3 no so far. |
| Jackseptic | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 10:43 pm
POLE/me...POLL< |
| shave | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:36 pm
while, at one point I considered this to be a possibly good way to rehabilitate activity within the ranks of this game, i gotta say, that when I did join this world government of sorts, it mada absolutly no difference in anything. I was merely told to create an alliance and be a represenative of my sphere of influence. and the more i got into reading things on site and other wise i realized, we would be nothing more then a military wing at the behest of an elected, and at this point in time self appointed leader. the ideas carry alot of merit, but not gonna work. I with draw my yes vote, and vote
NO!  nothing personal. |
| SweetPea | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:39 pm
Shave that made zero sense. I just wanted you to know that. From someone on the outside of that post reading inward. |
| shave | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:43 pm
thats ok ms.Wendy it made sense to me. lol i guess i was just trying to say that i was promised an active group to be a part of and it wound up being a DUD. I was told it was purely democratic in Nature, or at least led to believe that. and as I said more like a dictatorship. sorry, hope that clears it up for ya. |
| SweetPea | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:44 pm
No you just made even less sense. I think the more you try the worse it gets. I would just give it a rest. |
| shave | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:48 pm
well, not sure what to tell ya then. lol as plain as i know how to put it lol but ill probably keep posting my no sense ideas. couldn't be any worse then some conversations ive heard in here and in chat. |
| SweetPea | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:51 pm
That is just the point shave, you don't hold enough stripes or have any credibility to tell me anything. You posting never bothered me. I'll leave that to the players who feel players should play this game the way they want you to play and not any other way possible. Even though they pay to play too! Imagine that. |
| King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:53 pm
This is not a dictatorship. People are spinning it as such. As far as interaction Shave, I have asked you on a number of occassions what was the name of your country to get you involved to no avail. I even tried to speak to you in chat with no response. I believe you kill your own wanting to interact by not being available to interact. |
| shave | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:56 pm
not really sure what ya mean by stripes or credibility. but it sounds like an ego thing. i apologize if im wrong and that wasnt what you were saying. if it was what you were talking about then i gotta say, or rather remind you ms. wendy this is just a game, not real life. calm down lol again if you weren't suggesting im to much of a peon to tell you anything then i apologize. |
| shave | Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:57 pm
you were given the name of my country both on these forums and on your site. lol |
| King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:01 am
You haven't been on the site since Nov 16, and you never gave the country, just the continent you live on. Also The Golden Republic does not exist. |
| shave | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:07 am
no it doesnt anymore, i dropped it. no activity. |
| Keto | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:17 am
NO |
| King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:49 am
There is still a majority of People who want the world government. 7 yes 5 no. |
| Jiang Hu Warrior | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:56 am
hezzy your idea has merits but some want the freedom to do as they please, you need to consult everyone as deems fit, before shite hits the fan |
| Jiang Hu Warrior | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:58 am
maybe you need a little real divine intervention |
| Kiss_of_Death | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 03:16 am
If the vote is 7 to 5, that is still not a big enough of a lead to put forth that all of LU wants this. Plus it was my understanding that the purpose of this poll was to get an indication of who supported the idea, not a majority rules kinda endeavor.
Again, this is a classic example of things not presented clearly. This is concerning. Hezzy, I've tried helping you. You have to state things clearly and concisely or you will kill your campaign. People will lose faith. Remember public relations is key to any successful campaign. |
| Crafty | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:54 pm
Quote:That is just the point shave, you don't hold enough stripes or have any credibility to tell me anything. You posting never bothered me. I'll leave that to the players who feel players should play this game the way they want you to play and not any other way possible.
You'll leave that to the NLUO then, is that right?
Shave is saying he felt like he was being used by hezzie to just be a military wing to enforce hezzies despotic fantasies.
Another, carmathagon (or similar, apologies for not looking up your correct name) says much the same thing.
Hez comes up with excuses like helpng jack so he couldnt get involved in the decs on Orbiter, come on...anyone believe that?
I get called a bully! I decced no one. It seems NLUO are the bullies.
A bit of history: Once there was a very powerful fed on LU called LDI. They had no qualms bashing anyone they liked. 'Join the dark side' was their motto. But they didn't try to control the whole of LU. They had their territory on Lacerta and if you werent an asshat to them they left you alone. But their strength was an instigator to the GM worrying about noob bashing and eventually the war levels were introduced.
Now, you see a sort of parallel here with a current organisation. Only difference is the new one wants the whole planet to play along with them. And they have now shown they will war to achieve this goal, with Hez secure in his little rat hole luring the unsuspecting into fighting for him while promising unity and prosperity for all.
The NLUO is not reaching its goals at all, is it? In fact it's doing the exact opposite. Its members are in disarray, arguing among themselves, war is escalating and an election due in a few short days...unity and prosperity? I dont see that. Time for a huge U-turn in the NLUOs policy methinks.
So in conclusion, it seems the NLUO is just another fed trying to accomplish super-fed status. And to all the arguements I will doubtless receive back, remember: your actions speak louder than your words. |
| Laguna | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 06:10 pm
I sure would love to see you guys on a pole... Not Dracula style, but LA style.
And no, I'm not on a pole nor am I active. |
| King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:30 pm
Crafty, I have to hand it to you, That piece of Propaganda you just spoke was priceless. It was very convincing. We could use your skills as a speaker in our Government. Give me a call if you want to be a partner. |
| SweetPea | Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:36 pm
Quote:
That is just the point shave, you don't hold enough stripes or have any credibility to tell me anything. You posting never bothered me. I'll leave that to the players who feel players should play this game the way they want you to play and not any other way possible....
My quote, no I was actually talking about you(Crafty) and Josias in particular. Not the NLUO. |
| Border C | Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 01:47 am
No
What's the point of this game if everybody is getting along? |
| Kiss_of_Death | Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 03:49 pm
Why Sizzles, it is to be warm and fuzzy, lovey dovey and all that good stuff!!! We's just one big happy family who just fight amongst ourselves occasionally when we dun wanna share or if someone is "touching us" or on our side of the car .. I mean crosses our territory!!! ha ha ha ha
But deep down we all love each other!!! |
| SweetPea | Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:10 pm
Haha BC, clearly, everyone is NOT getting along.
I guess we've got a game then |
| Crafty | Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 09:24 pm
Hah, but the NLUO want peace and prosperity for all.
So they dont want a game then, is that what you are saying Madam secretary? |
| SweetPea | Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:25 pm
I am not sure, Is that what I was saying crafty?
It is clear to see what I said...
Quote:I guess we've got a game then
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| Lord Lee | Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:31 am
YES |
| King Hezekiah II | Friday, December 14, 2012 - 01:17 am
11 Yeses 5 nos. The Yeas have it!!! |
| Crafty | Friday, December 14, 2012 - 09:25 pm
I think this should be the last point I argue with you Wendy.
BC said there is no point to the game if everybody got along.
You said 'clearly everybody is not getting along...guess we have a game then'.
NLUO said they want peace and prosperity, which means everybody getting along,(the definition of peace), hence they want no game. That is a logical conclusion to be made from your statement.
Simples, eh. |
| SweetPea | Friday, December 14, 2012 - 09:42 pm
You still make absolutely no sense.
I made a statement of fact, there is nothing to argue.
The part about having a game only applies if you buy into BC's notion that people cannot play this game peacefully.
That is his opinion. Perhaps BC cannot play the game or see a point to it if everyone get's along. That is his opinion. Not mine, and not the NLUO.
So STILL, there is no relevance when you compare the NLUO wanting to promote peace, and there not being a point to playing if that is achieved. It is actually quite the opposite.
Many players in the game actually only want to play peacefully. Many players stay under war levels and only play peacefully.
It would probably benefit you to not try to create some equation to any and everything going on to your interpretation of NLUO policy. |
| King Herod VI | Friday, December 14, 2012 - 10:53 pm
I agree we need a world government. |
| King Hezekiah II | Monday, December 17, 2012 - 12:34 am
There is a majority of nations who want this government to succeed. After the Elections, we are going to launch a huge campaign to get the people who are apart of the government to start to exercise the use of the chambers of power to move the world of LU forward. We need to establish a routine, and a universal process of usage. We are doing it now, but there needs to be more movement. Especially now since the majority Leader has left. |
