Hydra Agression

Josias has taken several footholds on the border of the Secretary of Defense Stephen Ryan's country along with a few other Hydra members making similarly provocative moves.

Are we to take this aggression as a renig on your peace proposal Josias?

We are still debating that measure privately, I wonder why you would want to jeopardize those internal discussions. Your actions make for strong arguments against acceptance of your proposal.

Your not really calling me out on a treaty that you've already broke, and are still considering?

You've already blindsided me with your first violation. And now it would appear that you are playing a game with the word "consider." I'm sorry, but you haven't given me any reason to trust you.

*I* have not broken ANYTHING. What you are referring to is when Steve declared on *you*.


This little paragraph came after you both came to some sort of agreement, and this is what I am talking about.

You want us to consider this offer meaningless in other words, correct?

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personally, i like my countries, and i'd like to put them back to the way they were. i want peace.

and in the interest of my peace. i'm inviting all presidents to work together with me, in the Hydra federation, for mutual safety. we do not care if you choose not join, but we will encourage all presidents.

and we will do all we can, that hydra members remain unharassed by the NLUO, or any other organization.

this is my offer of peace to the NLUO <!-/Quote-!>

again, you have not given me any reason to trust you.

It is not *I* you need to trust. *I* cannot war on you, nor have I declared war on you. It is impossible. It is clear you cannot be trusted. You typed those words not *I*.

You keep placing the emphasis on me, when this has everything to do with you. Your actions, and you keeping or not keeping your word.

I mean seriously speaking, I knew they were hollow, I'm just wondering if you wanted to preserve that "Reputation" you've worked so hard on.

It is Steve who will ultimately decide how to react to this. Thank you for making your position clear.

what a bunch of hogwash

you still didn't offer an argument that would encourage me to trust you, or your side.

but here's a question

what is the point of representing a group, and signing peace deals? when all the members are allowed to what ever they want anyways?

But! Using your own words and fake peace initiative I offered a flawless argument that explains exactly why *no one* should trust *you* or *your side*.

check and... MATE!

Ok, done here.

good, moving on

I don't see why anyone would trust a no good backstabber with a history of attacking even fedmates who happen to disagree, but here we are with people trusting you Wendy.

Wow, I couldn't believe you would describe Josias like that, Mizore. I could believe it though, hell even I've done that before.

Claiming people are apart of your organization, when they never agreed to it. IS forcing it on them. Every attempt to reason that with you, has resulted in you claiming to have every right to your policies

you certainly have every right to play the game. But so do I. if you slap me, i just might slap back. keep that in mind when you are exercising your "policies,"

your organization, as a group, can not break treaties. And expect to generate trust. You can not expect an enemy, to stand around waiting forever while you "consider," especially, after YOUR GROUP broke the treaty to begin with.

The NLUO has been nothing but shady, and underhanded. And after breaking a treaty, claiming that they don't negoiate with outsiders... then when their is a type of cease fire. I'm expected to stand around and let you do it to me again?

I don't think so. And i've got the guns to back it up.

Avoiding war is pretty simple. You can stop "considering," and make it official. You do that, and i'll let the C3s decs slide. Until then, YOUR SIDE, has not given me any reason to trust you.

Well im dissapointed as me and orbiter had an aggreement so i instigated a peace treaty then i find that the c3 dec around me and lord lee have been dec on by orbiter what a let down. I instigated a treaty in good faith and find lord lee who is totally peaceful in trouble and my actions now questionable the best outcome now orbiter relax ur c3 decs toward a peacful outcome.

mmmm one last point orbiter has again kept these c3s active in war around myself and lee of last game month if this continues this is a final dec of war regards steve

I might just have to move up the war level to assist in this war. Super, buy war protection, level 5 here I come!

as long as i keep that C3 dec active, Steve Ryan will stay in war protection! so... it'd seem to me to be the only way to keep the peace!

Im not dec on anyone if i was going too go to war i would not have instigated a peace treaty but now orbiter is forcing the issue by aggressivly dec around me right after signing the treaty my last post stands i dont have a choice if these c3 dec remain if its war u want then its war u will get.

EXTERMINATE

so i'm suppose to go off the word of some one that JUST broke their word... and refuses to actually agree to anything...

i did not mean that to say that steve ryan lied to me. but that i was lied too, by the NLUO.

i signed a treaty, took a walk, and came back to decs.

i get that their can be confusion. miscommunication. but the NLUO has not offered me any kind of reassurance this will not happen again.

infact, hez and wendy continuously baiting... every one

...and I'll continue baiting, as you call it. I have not said or done anything that affects you.

In fact, I have tried my hardest to not have anything to do with you good or bad. Stop using my name in vain.

so what kind of peace are you willing to offer?

i will not hear demands, or doubletalk

i'm on chat, lets talk!

I'm personally am no longer interested in peace, and even less interested in having any conversation with you. It is pointless, your words are hollow and full of double-talk.

Steve, Josias isn't credible enough to honor any new peace deal when he just had one with you previously and has broken it for no reason whatsoever.

He's stalling for time, they are going to attack you one way or the other. Just my thoughts.

translation, wendy is sacred and will sick steve ryan on me

guess what, i'm dropping RDUs...

steve, we did have an agreement, but i want an agreement with wendy and hez.

the leadership of the NLUO, has been nothing but a disarray

hez signs a peace deal with me, and with hours you dec

i don't hear from you until, literally, what 15 minutes before go active... my countries go from nothing, to full on war slaves... then you tell me what you did...

then i see the post on the forums, about the NLUO military method.

wendy, and hez continue to bait

what am i suppose to think. you guys already did it once, and are offering nothing

i am saying NO to a world government that has leaders acting such.

keep in mind, i don't want to shoot, but if i have to, i'm ready.